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    On Claiming Belief in God: Commentary & Discussion with Dennis Prager

    enJuly 07, 2019

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    • Encouraging Self-Improvement for Personal GrowthDr. Peterson emphasizes the importance of personal growth and self-improvement for a meaningful and purposeful life, while cautioning against the limiting belief that people are already okay.

      According to Dr. Jordan Peterson, it's essential to recognize that people are not okay the way they are, especially when speaking to young audiences. Instead, we should encourage them to strive for self-improvement and becoming the best version of themselves, as this imbues life with meaning and purpose. Peterson shares his experiences of traveling and speaking to large audiences, noting the universal hunger for personal growth and the importance of identifying the topics that grip people's attention completely. He also mentions the harmful effects of the 1960s' popular idea that people are okay the way they are, as it can hinder personal development and limit one's potential.

    • Navigating Difficult Times with WisdomPay attention, learn from experiences, admire resilience, and strive for compassion to offset negativity and avoid bitterness.

      Life is filled with suffering and hardships, and it's easy to become cynical and bitter as a result. However, cynicism is not a useful antidote to tragedy and malevolence. Instead, wisdom is what we need to navigate through difficult times. Paying attention and being open to learning from our experiences are essential in developing wisdom. By admiring those who handle hardships with grace and resilience, we can strive to become wiser and more compassionate individuals. Ultimately, the goal is to find ways to offset the negativity in life and avoid the downward spiral of bitterness and cruelty.

    • Identifying those we don't admire can help us live meaningful livesAdmiring responsible individuals and living courageously, truthfully, and responsibly contributes to a fulfilling life.

      Our instinct for admiration drives us to imitate, and identifying who we don't admire can help us avoid negative pathways in life. Admiring responsible individuals who take care of themselves and their loved ones is a good starting point for living a meaningful life. This ethos of harmony among levels requires balancing what's good for us with what's good for our family and community. By living courageously, speaking the truth, and taking responsibility, we can find a sense of fundamental meaning that acts as an antidote to the catastrophe of life, both psychologically and practically. Ultimately, accepting our responsibility to ourselves and others is essential for living a meaningful and fulfilling life.

    • Understanding Human Duality: Good and EvilJordan Peterson and the speaker share a belief in human capacity for good and evil, the importance of recognizing this duality, and the value of a tragic worldview for appreciating happiness.

      Both Jordan Peterson and the speaker share a deep understanding of the human capacity for both good and evil. They believe that recognizing this duality is essential for personal growth and making the world a better place. The speaker admires Peterson for his passion to help others live better lives and sees the good within him, despite his acknowledgement of humanity's darker side. They also share a belief in the importance of having a tragic view of life to truly appreciate happiness. The speaker's admiration for Peterson stems from their shared beliefs and the authenticity with which he delivers his message.

    • Embracing challenges for personal growthFacing new and difficult situations unlocks our full potential and reveals our true selves, leading to happiness, completeness, and self-respect.

      Personal growth and self-discovery require facing challenges and embracing the difficult aspects of life. This idea is exemplified in stories like Pinocchio, where the puppet must confront his fears and traverse the darkest places to become an autonomous being. This concept is not new, as it can be traced back to ancient times, and it's essential for learning, both psychologically and biologically. By exposing ourselves to new and challenging situations, we unlock our full potential and discover who we truly are. This journey towards self-realization is necessary for happiness, completeness, and a proper sense of self-respect. Living as if there is a God, or believing in a deep sense, means fully embracing this journey and the challenges it brings.

    • The importance of acting out faith courageouslyTrue belief in God requires more than just words, it demands courageous and truthful action. Losing faith can lead to embracing harmful beliefs.

      According to the speaker, true belief in God isn't just about stating it, but acting it out courageously and truthfully. God's own human form reportedly lost faith momentarily in the face of human existence's tragic conditions, and the speaker suggests that it's a testament to the immense challenge of accepting suffering and disappointment while still aiming for the good. The speaker's own journey to faith was marked by a realization of the moral, intellectual, and wisdom voids that exist in the absence of God. The speaker believes that we need a transcendent and absolute belief system to hold us together, and losing that can lead us to embrace other, potentially harmful beliefs.

    • Understanding the inherent worth and value in humanityRecognizing the inherent worth and value in humanity and understanding the struggle between good and evil are crucial for a nuanced and realistic worldview.

      Human beings are deeply irrational, and we need to recognize the inherent worth and value in ourselves and others, which can be associated with something metaphysically real. The existence of darkness and evil in the world underscores the importance of recognizing the inherent good and the struggle it faces against the default position of entropy, catastrophe, and malevolence. It's crucial not to underestimate the improbability of peaceful coexistence and the importance of understanding the nature of good and evil. Ignorance of evil can lead to a naive belief in fundamental human goodness, which is not supported by historical evidence. Ultimately, recognizing the inherent worth and value in humanity and understanding the struggle between good and evil can lead to a more nuanced and realistic worldview.

    • Understanding good and evil for mental healthBelief in inherent goodness can leave individuals vulnerable to moral trauma, recognizing evil and maintaining peace are crucial for mental health and resilience.

      Having a strong belief system and understanding of good and evil is crucial for mental health and resilience. The speaker argues that naivety and belief in the inherent goodness of all people can leave individuals vulnerable to moral trauma and post-traumatic stress disorder. They also emphasize the importance of recognizing the existence of evil and the need to maintain peace and prosperity through hard work and gratitude. The speaker's personal experiences and worldview, shaped by religious education, have influenced their perspective on these issues. They believe that understanding the challenges and complexities of the world is essential for living a happy and fulfilled life.

    • Recognizing the Good in Western SocietiesChurchill's quote reminds us to appreciate the benefits of democracy, despite its flaws, and to compare it to other forms of government. Universities, particularly in the humanities, should promote a balanced perspective that acknowledges societal blessings.

      Despite the perceived flaws and issues within Western societies, particularly in the United States, it's essential to recognize and appreciate the good things that exist. Churchill's quote, "democracy is the worst form of government except for all the other forms of government," highlights this perspective. While it's crucial to acknowledge societal mistakes, it's equally important to compare them to how things could be and have been in other places and times. The modern university, with its focus on the flaws of society and lack of gratitude, can sometimes overlook the benefits. Universities, especially in the humanities, may do more harm than good by promoting an ungrateful ideology that denies individuality and the importance of free speech. Ultimately, it's essential to maintain a balanced perspective, acknowledging both the challenges and the blessings in our societies.

    • The fundamental principle of individual sovereignty is under attackIndividual rights are under assault, leading to societal chaos without free speech or individual responsibility. The power to challenge tyranny lies with the truth spoken by individuals, requiring courage and acceptance of responsibility.

      The ongoing philosophical and theological debates in universities go deeper than surface level issues. The fundamental principle of individual sovereignty, rooted in the Western notion of human beings being made in the image of God, is under attack. This assault on individual rights leads to a Hobbesian nightmare of group against group, with no room for free speech or individual responsibility. The responsibility for societal issues, according to this perspective, lies with the individual, and the only way to break the power of tyranny is through the truth spoken by individuals. This truth, however, requires courage and acceptance of responsibility, which some may find daunting. Peterson emphasizes the importance of individual action in the face of tyranny, despite the potential risks. He grew up in a small town in Alberta, Canada, and continues to travel the world sharing his ideas.

    • Maintaining disbelief as a coping mechanismAdopting a mindset of disbelief helps in staying focused and adaptable during personal and professional upheavals.

      The speaker, in the face of constant personal and professional upheaval, has adopted a mindset of perpetual disbelief as a coping mechanism. Despite facing numerous scandals and adversities, both on a national and international scale, the speaker finds it hard to believe that things have not reached a point of resolution. This disbelief keeps them grounded and focused, allowing them to continue in the face of seemingly insurmountable challenges. The speaker's experiences demonstrate the power of maintaining a sense of wonder and amazement in the face of adversity, and the importance of staying adaptable in the face of uncertainty.

    • Jordan Peterson's Life is Filled with Gratitude and ConnectionJordan Peterson finds joy in fans' personal growth and considers constant interaction a dream come true. His books and online programs offer deeper insights into his teachings.

      Despite the negative portrayals in the press, Jordan Peterson's life is filled with positivity and connection with people from all over the world. He encounters fans who share their personal growth and improvements in their lives, brought about by his teachings. This constant interaction is a source of immense gratitude for him, and he considers it a dream come true. His books, "Maps of Meaning," "The Architecture of Belief," "12 Rules for Life," and "An Antidote to Chaos," delve deeper into his ideas and teachings. To learn more and connect with Jordan Peterson, follow him on social media, visit his website, or attend his events. His online writing programs, Self-Authoring, can also help individuals understand themselves and develop a vision for their future.

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