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    Reporting on Science (Part 2) – extended with Elise Andrew of IFLS and Bill Nye

    en-usNovember 27, 2014

    Podcast Summary

    • Collaborating with Sources for Fact-CheckingJournalists can improve accuracy by collaborating with sources for fact-checking, despite potential manipulation fears. Peer review process in science can inspire journalism's fact-checking approach.

      Accuracy is a crucial aspect of journalism, but journalists and science communicators often struggle with the idea of sharing their work in progress with their sources for fact-checking. Miles O'Brien, a science journalist, shares his perspective on the importance of accuracy and the benefits of collaborating with sources to ensure the accuracy of information before publication. He emphasizes that the fear of sources trying to manipulate the content is outweighed by the potential for improved accuracy. O'Brien also draws a parallel between the peer review process in science and the potential for peer review in journalism, suggesting that embracing this approach could help maintain integrity in journalism. Overall, the conversation highlights the importance of factual accuracy in journalism and the potential benefits of collaborative fact-checking with sources.

    • Misleading balance in reporting scientific issuesJournalists should report on scientific consensus, not give equal time to fringe views, to accurately represent the state of science.

      The concept of fair and balanced reporting in journalism, particularly when it comes to scientific issues, can be misleading and even harmful to the truth. Miles O'Brien, a leading science journalist, argues that when one side of a scientific issue is supported by a vast majority of experts, it is not accurate or fair to give equal time to the minority view. This approach can perpetuate myths and obfuscate the truth. Instead, journalists need to do their homework, understand the nuances, and report on the scientific consensus. It's important to remember that not every issue has two equally valid sides, and it's the journalist's responsibility to accurately represent the state of the science.

    • CNN's Early Adoption and Innovative Use of Technology during Major EventsCNN's success in major events relied on their early adoption and innovative use of technology, from securing a dedicated audio line during the Gulf War to adapting to a one-man news band setup using a Mac and a phone.

      CNN's success in reporting major events, such as the Gulf War, can be attributed to their early adoption and innovative use of technology. This was evident when a young producer named Eason Jordan secured a dedicated audio line from Baghdad to transmit reports back to CNN, making them the only network with reliable transmission during the war. As technology advanced, CNN continued to embrace it, shrinking their live trucks and eventually transitioning to a one-man news band setup using a Mac and a phone. The speaker, who was part of CNN's science and technology unit, was unfortunately let go during a restructuring but saw this as an opportunity to continue reporting using low-cost streaming technology. This experience showcases the importance of technology in journalism and the ability for individuals to adapt and thrive in the industry.

    • Boutique journalism thrives in the digital ageIndividuals can reach large audiences with specific interests through social media and technology, and there's an untapped demand for in-depth coverage of topics like science. Balance is key in using technology effectively in journalism.

      We are living in the era of boutique journalism, where individuals with specific interests and expertise can reach large audiences through social media and technology, without relying on large media corporations. This was highlighted during a recent interview, where the interviewee shared their experience of engaging with a large online audience about a scientific topic. They noted that there is an untapped demand for in-depth coverage of topics like science, which the mainstream media often overlooks due to perceived complexity or cost. The exponential nature of social networking means that a core audience can quickly grow into a large following. However, it's important to remember that technology, while powerful, can also be overused. The example of holographic reporting was given as an instance of unnecessary use of technology. Just as early CDs went overboard with production, we need to find the right balance in journalism and technology. Ultimately, there is much work to be done, but the tools and platforms available today offer opportunities for those passionate about specific topics to share their knowledge and connect with like-minded individuals.

    • The importance of actual news gathering vs. relying on aggregated sourcesRelying solely on aggregated news sources can lead to inaccuracies and lack of authentic reporting. Actual news gathering is crucial for accurate and reliable journalism.

      While technology has made news more accessible and faster, the absence of primary news gathering and the reliance on aggregated information can lead to inaccuracies and a lack of authentic reporting. Miles O'Brien, a seasoned science journalist, emphasized the importance of actual news gathering and the potential dangers of relying solely on aggregated news sources. He also highlighted the conflict between journalism's goal to question the status quo and corporate America's goal to make a profit. The decline of serious journalism began with the end of the fairness doctrine, the rise of cable news, and the need for news divisions to be self-sufficient and entertaining. Family-owned enterprises, such as The New York Times, remain the few successful examples of journalistic endeavors that prioritize authentic reporting over profit.

    • Impact of corporate ownership on journalismNon-profits prioritize authentic journalism over corporate interests, providing an alternative to potentially biased corporate media outlets.

      The corporate ownership of media outlets, including major news networks, can impact the quality and objectivity of journalism. Non-profit organizations, on the other hand, are seen as producing more authentic journalism due to their lack of corporate interests. For instance, the Poynter Institute, ProPublica, and Center for Public Integrity are examples of non-profits that prioritize true journalism. The speaker also shared an anecdote about Peter Jennings' New Year's Eve broadcast, where his choice to visit Disney World, which is owned by ABC, raised questions about journalistic independence. Ultimately, the future of journalism may lie in the hands of these independent, non-profit entities.

    • Discovering Passion for Journalism in CollegeFinding a career that brings joy and fulfillment is important, but be aware of confirmation bias that may influence information consumption.

      The speaker, Miles O'Brien, discovered his passion for journalism late in college when he stumbled upon a newsroom at NBC in Washington, D.C. He was drawn to the fast-paced, energetic environment and the sense of community among the journalists. He saw it as a "good drug," unlike comedy which he compared to "crack." The speaker also discussed the power of confirmation bias in journalism, suggesting that people often believe what aligns with their existing beliefs and may not even notice retractions or corrections. O'Brien's experiences highlight the importance of finding a career that brings joy and fulfillment, as well as the potential pitfalls of confirmation bias in information consumption.

    • Evolution of Journalistic Freedom Through Media Industry ChangesThe media industry has evolved significantly, impacting journalistic freedom with the rise of crowdfunded platforms and 24/7 news cycles, requiring adaptability and depth in storytelling.

      The speaker, a journalist, has experienced significant changes in the media industry throughout his career. From struggling to fit into a 2-minute slot at CNN to having the luxury of a 13-minute segment on PBS NewsHour, he's seen the evolution of journalistic freedom through crowdfunded platforms like NPR and PBS. He also shared his personal journey, from working under Linda Winslow at Georgetown University to returning to work with her as the EP of PBS NewsHour. The speaker also reflected on the past, mentioning how NBC once filled an hour with news and people were skeptical, but they managed to do it. Today, with 24/7 news cycles, not all networks are able to fill the time with original content, relying on loops instead. The speaker mused about the idea of a day without news, suggesting it could be a much-needed break. Overall, the speaker's anecdotes and insights highlight the evolution of journalism and the importance of having the freedom to tell stories in depth.

    • Science journalism prioritizes popular content over in-depth coverageMedia outlets prioritize sensational topics for high engagement, leading to potential misinformation and misunderstandings about scientific concepts, and individuals may actively spread false information in comment sections.

      Media outlets, including news channels and social media platforms, operate on a model that prioritizes delivering the most popular or sensational content to keep audiences engaged for short periods of time. This is similar to the radio model of the past, where stations were pressured to play hits rather than deeper cuts from an album. In the context of science journalism, this means that platforms may not provide in-depth coverage or nuanced discussions, instead focusing on controversial topics that generate high engagement. This can lead to misinformation and misunderstandings about scientific concepts. Additionally, there are individuals who actively attack science and scientific consensus, often in the comment sections of science-focused platforms. Understanding these dynamics is crucial for promoting accurate and accessible science communication.

    • Indoctrinating young people into creationist beliefs contradicting science factsThe US creationist community's curriculum could negatively impact the future by hindering scientific literacy and innovation.

      The creationist community in the United States has a well-structured curriculum to indoctrinate young people into their belief system, which contradicts scientific facts. This is concerning because the future relies on a scientifically literate population to drive innovation and progress. The divide between science and politics in the US, as observed in online discussions, is unusual and can hinder the understanding and acceptance of important scientific concepts, such as climate change. The United States and the UK are leading countries in exporting ideas rather than products, and if a significant portion of the younger generation is not scientifically literate, it could negatively impact the future. The US has a large presence on IFLS, a popular science-focused platform, indicating a high interest in scientific content. However, China, the world's most populous country, is currently blocked from accessing Facebook and other similar platforms, which could limit the spread of scientific knowledge and ideas. Unrestricted access to such platforms could lead to significant changes in China and potentially the world.

    • Acknowledging uncomfortable realities in scientific progressRecognize the importance of scientific progress despite uncomfortable realities, and address the issue of selectively accepting science.

      While there are individuals who challenge scientific advancements, not all of them belong to organized groups. However, when it comes to heated debates, such as animal testing in medical research, it's essential to acknowledge that progress often involves uncomfortable realities. For instance, some people may refuse to use medicines tested on animals, but they can still opt for those that weren't. The irony lies in the fact that even those who reject science have access to its most advanced tools, like iPhones, Facebook, and Twitter. Ultimately, it's crucial to recognize and address the issue of cherry-picking science, whether it comes from organized groups or individuals.

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