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    Simone Weil’s radical philosophy of love and attention

    enJune 01, 2023

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    • Exploring the Philosophy of Simone Weil and Currency Management with WiseDiscover Simone Weil's unique approach to philosophy and life while managing international finances effectively with Wise

      Wise offers a convenient and cost-effective solution for managing and converting currencies, allowing users to send money internationally and travel without the hassle of airport exchange desks. Simultaneously, The Gray Area podcast introduces listeners to the philosophical ideas and life of Simone Weil, a radical and influential French philosopher, activist, and thinker who lived her philosophy deeply and left a lasting impact. In academia, philosophy is often taught as a historical discipline or a tool for analysis, but Simone Weil's approach was unique in that she lived her philosophy in every aspect of her life, offering valuable lessons about reality, truth, and caring for others.

    • Ancient philosophers saw philosophy as a way of life for personal transformationPhilosophy, according to ancient thinkers, is a discipline for living better lives, not just for personal gain, as exemplified by Simone Weil's life of selfless service and manual labor.

      For ancient philosophers, as argued by Pierre Hadot, philosophy was not just an academic pursuit, but a way of life aimed at personal transformation. This is exemplified in the life of Simone Weil, who, despite her privileged upbringing and academic success, felt the need to leave her teaching position and experience manual labor and suffering to truly understand life. Her actions were driven by a desire to make a positive impact on others' lives, aligning with the ancient philosophical belief that philosophy is a discipline for living better lives, not just for oneself. This perspective is in contrast to Simone de Beauvoir's view that philosophers should provide meaning and reason for people's existence. Weil's life serves as a reminder of the transformative power of philosophy when lived authentically.

    • Understanding Human Affliction through Simone Weil's LensSimone Weil's concept of affliction, rooted in her experiences at factories, emphasized the suppression of humanity due to external forces, leading to the inability to think and shaping her moral indignation and philosophical action.

      Simone Weil, a philosophical figure during the early 20th century, had a profound understanding of human affliction that set her apart from her peers. Affliction, as she described it, was a state driven by forces outside of human control, leading to the suppression or even eradication of humanity. Weil's insights into affliction came from her experiences at factories in Paris, where she observed that laborers, including herself, became things rather than makers due to the nature of modern technology and industrialization. The principal consequence of this labor was the inability to think, as survival required the cessation of intellectual pursuits. Weil's concept of affliction anchored her moral indignation and philosophical action, shaping her into an influential intellectual.

    • The Role of Force in Shaping HumanitySimone Weil argues that force, not just capitalism or industrialization, shapes our humanity and reduces us to thoughtless instruments within a system. We are all subjected to and implicated in this force, regardless of our position in the hierarchy.

      Key takeaway from Simone Weil's perspective is that force, not just capitalism or industrialization, shapes our humanity and reduces us to thoughtless instruments within a system. We are all subjected to and implicated in this force, regardless of our position in the hierarchy or whether we wield power or suffer under it. This is evident in her experiences in the factories and during the Spanish Civil War. Even heroes in literature, such as those in the Iliad, are not exempt. Weil's essay "The Iliad or the Poem of Force" emphasizes that Achilles, despite his power, is also subject to force. Her personal experience during the exodus from Paris during the Nazi invasion further reinforces this idea. Ultimately, Weil's work underscores the importance of recognizing and challenging the role of force in our lives and relationships.

    • Simone Weil's call to attend to the worldIn a world of revolutionary change and totalitarian powers, Weil believed attention is a powerful antidote to the human condition, allowing individuals to connect deeply with others and the world around them.

      Key takeaway from the discussion about Simone Weil's philosophy is her belief that individuals living in a time of revolutionary change and totalitarian powers must reflect on the use of force and respond by paying deep, intentional attention to the world and others. Weil, who was preoccupied by the notion of force in a world turning people into machines, saw attention as a powerful antidote to the human condition. She believed that attention, as opposed to the surface-level understanding most people have, is a focused, intense act that requires complete engagement and detachment from oneself. By practicing attention, individuals can resist the machine-like world and connect more deeply with others and the world around them. Weil's call to attend to the world is not just a diagnosis of the human condition but also a prescription for living a more meaningful and engaged life. Additionally, during the discussion, we learned about Mint Mobile's affordable wireless service and Wise's easy currency exchange platform.

    • The Challenge of Self-Suppression for True AttentionTo truly attend to others, we must suppress our own selves and wait patiently for them to reveal themselves, a form of generosity that requires recognizing reality beyond ourselves and setting aside our ego.

      Simone Weil, a French philosopher, believed that true attention to others involves suppressing one's own self and waiting patiently for the other person to reveal themselves. This self-suppression or "decreation" is a form of generosity and can be understood in both a religious and secular context. In the religious context, it refers to returning the space given to us by God by folding in on ourselves. In a secular context, it means emptying ourselves of ourselves to fully attend to others. This idea of decreation or unselfing is a challenging concept that requires recognizing the reality of things outside of ourselves and setting aside our own ego. It's about giving ourselves completely to another person and waiting for them to present themselves fully to us. This form of attention is rare and pure, and it's essential for building meaningful connections with others.

    • Focusing on the self and removing ego can lead to understanding and experiencing the good or God in our livesBoth Iris Murdoch and Simone Weil believed that setting aside our own biases and ideologies and being fully present in the world can lead to discovering the reality of goodness, whether it be God or the good itself.

      According to both Iris Murdoch and Simone Weil, focusing on the self and removing ego can lead to understanding and experiencing the good or God in our lives. Murdoch argues that the good is present and we must strive to see it, while Weil had profound religious experiences that made God real to her. Both philosophers believed in the reality of goodness and saw it as a living possibility between attentive human beings. For those who have not had such experiences, Murdoch's variation suggests that the good, rather than God, is present in our lives and we must keep an open mind to discover it. Ultimately, they believed that truly seeking knowledge and understanding requires setting aside our own biases and ideologies and being fully present in the world.

    • Simone Weil's opposition to political partiesWeil believed political parties hinder us from living our lives to the fullest by promoting partisanship, reducing complex issues to caricatures, and encouraging defensive thinking, leading to harm and suffering.

      Key takeaway from the discussion about Simone Weil is her deep-rooted opposition to political parties and their negative impact on our ability to see others for who they truly are. Weil believed that once we become partisan, we stop thinking, paying attention, and become defensive, leading to harm, violence, and suffering. She even wrote a position paper on the abolition of political parties during her time as an analyst with the Free French in London. Although it may seem impractical, she believed that political parties hinder us from living our lives to the fullest. Furthermore, we live in an age of mass communication where we are encouraged to reduce complex issues to caricatures, leading to polarization and a lack of attention and understanding towards others. Weil's contempt for the thought-destroying force of mass media is a relevant issue today, and her call for action and attention, even in the face of impracticality, is an important reminder.

    • Two philosophers, Camus and Weil, emphasized the importance of human connection over abstract ideas and took action during war and occupation.Anti-totalitarian philosophers Camus and Weil stressed human connection, opposed fascism and communism, balanced thought and action, and remained true to their values during adversity.

      Albert Camus and Simone Weil, two philosophers on the political left, were deeply concerned about the danger of abstract ideas and ideologies supplanting immediate experience and human connection. They were intensely anti-totalitarian, opposing both fascism and communism, and were more sympathetic to anarchists than traditional leftist parties. Both Camus and Weil emphasized the importance of thinking and reflecting on the world around them. When faced with the realities of war and occupation, they took action, joining the resistance and living according to their beliefs. Despite their intellectual pursuits, they never lost sight of the importance of the present moment and the value of human life. Their legacies serve as reminders of the need to balance thought and action, and to remain true to our values in the face of adversity.

    • Exploring the Life and Ideas of Simone WeilSimone Weil's life and ideas continue to inspire us with her unwavering commitment to her principles, inspiring awe and admiration. A moral genius, she would likely engage in humanitarian and environmental causes if alive today.

      Key takeaway from the discussion about Simone Weil is that she was a remarkable woman who lived her ideals with unwavering commitment, even if it put her in danger. Camus, a renowned philosopher, considered her a great spirit of their age and valued their friendship despite her death. Weil refused to ignore her contradictions and instead lived in alignment with her principles, inspiring awe and admiration. Her intellect, intensity, and unyielding commitment made her a moral genius and a standard to aspire to. If she were alive today, she would likely be deeply engaged in humanitarian and environmental causes, defending the rights and wellbeing of those facing adversity. Her legacy continues to inspire and challenge us to strive for greater alignment between our principles and actions.

    • Exploring the Influence of Simone Weil and Albert CamusThrough a thoughtful conversation, the speaker and Robert Zaretsky delve into the profound ideas of Simone Weil and Albert Camus, highlighting their enduring impact on philosophy and social justice.

      Simone Weil, despite her challenging personality, continues to be a significant influence and inspiration with her profound ideas on philosophy and social justice. Robert Zaretsky's book, "The Subversive Simone Weil," is an accessible and highly recommended resource for those interested in learning more about her. Through their conversation, it's clear that both the speaker and Robert share a deep admiration for Weil and Camus, and appreciate the opportunity to engage in thoughtful discussions about their ideas. The speaker values Robert's insights and the way he challenges her thinking, and extends a heartfelt thanks to him and to listeners for joining in this exploration of these influential thinkers.

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