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    The Eyeball-Scanning Plan Designed to Save Us From AI

    enJune 15, 2023

    Podcast Summary

    • Exploring the Impact of AI on Real Estate and TechnologyAI offers opportunities for real estate firms like Principal Asset Management to deliver local insights and global expertise. However, it also raises concerns, such as potential misuse or the creation of convincing replicas, which require staying informed and vigilant.

      Technology, like AI, presents both opportunities and challenges. In the realm of real estate, Principal Asset Management leverages a 360-degree perspective to deliver local insights and global expertise. Meanwhile, in the world of technology, AI is being used in innovative ways, but also raises concerns, such as potential misuse or the creation of convincing replicas. For instance, someone created a fake Odd Lots podcast episode using AI. While some view this as a fun experiment, others worry about the implications of such technology, including the potential for scams and identity theft. As the technology advances, it may become increasingly difficult to distinguish between real and fake individuals online. Despite these concerns, some see the potential for creating solutions to problems, such as the proliferation of bots on social media platforms. Ultimately, it's essential to stay informed and vigilant as technology continues to evolve.

    • Verifying Human Identity in a World of AI ReplicasWorldcoin's eyeball scanning technology aims to provide a means of verifying human identity as AI replicas become increasingly convincing.

      As AI technology advances, the ability to create convincing replicas of humans through voice and facial expression becomes increasingly possible. This raises concerns about proving one's identity in a world where AI can mimic us. Worldcoin, a company founded by Sam Altman and Alex Blania, is working on a solution to this problem through the use of eyeball scanning technology. The technology is already being used to some extent, but its deployment is not yet widespread. The progress in AI technology, particularly in image and text generation, is making it increasingly difficult to distinguish between humans and AI. Worldcoin did not initially set out to solve this problem but rather began as a research project in deep learning applied to quantum physics. However, the team recognized the potential of their technology in addressing the emerging identity crisis. The use case for Worldcoin's technology is to provide a means of verifying human identity in a world where AI replicas become increasingly convincing. The technology is still in development, but it holds the promise of helping us navigate the challenges of a future where AI and humans may become indistinguishable.

    • Creating an open identity and financial network for allRockland Technologies aims to build an open, privacy-preserving identity and financial network using an eyeball scanner for verification, enabling Universal Basic Income and sharing technology's upside with society

      The founding team of Rockland Technologies, including Sam Altman and Max Ventilla, sought to create a societal infrastructure for AI to benefit all of society, not just a few, by developing an open and privacy-preserving identity and financial network. This network would include a capability to prove one's humanity online, eventually enabling Universal Basic Income, and would serve as the infrastructure for sharing the upside of powerful technology with the world. To achieve this, Rockland developed an eyeball scanner, which ensures that only human beings interact with the device and creates a unique embedding from an eye image for verification. This embedding is signed by the device and compared against all other users, allowing for later 0-knowledge proofs of inclusion without revealing underlying information. This ambitious project aims to create the largest open identity and financial network, providing an alternative to potentially unreliable centralized government systems.

    • Decentralized Identity System with Unique Proof of ExistenceRolecoin is a technology creating a self-custodial identity network, enabling users to prove their uniqueness and sign online interactions, potentially providing digital identity to the unbanked and accelerating economies.

      Rolecoin is a technology aimed at creating a self-custodial identity network, where users have control over their data without the need for a centralized entity. This decentralized identity system, called Rolecoin, is able to provide users with the ability to prove their uniqueness against everyone else, solving the issue of deduplication that traditional identity systems struggle with. With the increasing importance of authentication in the digital world, this technology could enable users to sign every online interaction, creating a traceable and secure digital identity. Furthermore, with the addition of the World ID protocol, users can bootstrap a whole identity system on top, enabling the verification and sharing of various types of credentials. This decentralized approach to identity has the potential to provide digital identity to the billions of people who currently lack it, accelerating economies and improving access to services.

    • Decentralized digital identity using iris scanning technologyWorldcoin provides a secure and private way to prove identity online using iris scanning technology and zero-knowledge proofs, without the need for a centralized database.

      Worldcoin is a decentralized digital identity project that uses iris scanning technology to create a unique digital ID for each user. This ID can then be used to prove various things, such as age or citizenship, to applications and websites without revealing sensitive information. The protocol is open source, and users have control over what additional information they attach to their ID. The use of zero-knowledge proofs ensures that only the user knows their private information, while the website or application only receives a yes or no response. This system aims to provide a more secure and private way for individuals to prove their identity online, without the need for a centralized database. Despite initial reservations, the founders of Worldcoin recognized the necessity of creating a hardware device for iris scanning, despite the challenges of building and scaling such a project. They also acknowledged the past existence of an iris database during the development process, but emphasized that it has since been decentralized and destroyed. The team is working towards creating a more comfortable and accessible experience for users, and they are also involved in a crypto project called Roarkcoin. Overall, Worldcoin represents an innovative solution to the issue of digital identity and privacy, and it has the potential to revolutionize the way we prove our identities online.

    • Worldcoin's privacy-preserving global identity solution uses biometric recognitionWorldcoin's global identity solution uses biometric recognition, ensuring privacy and deduplication while being fully open-source for transparency and verification.

      Worldcoin, a project aimed at issuing a privacy-preserving global identity, researched various solutions but ultimately found that biometric recognition, specifically their own recognition system, was the most effective way to solve the deduplication problem. They had to build their own hardware and software, and the system is privacy-preserving, meaning no personal information is revealed during use. Additionally, Worldcoin is fully open-source, allowing users to verify the system instead of having to trust it. Despite concerns, user feedback suggests that privacy is a lesser concern globally than expected. Open sourcing is important in AI, which is considered a foundational technology, as it allows for transparency and verification. The crypto element, including a token, was also included in the project during the crypto bear market, but the reasons for it were not explicitly stated in the discussion.

    • Open Source vs Decentralization in AI and CryptoCrypto emphasizes decentralization to build systems not controlled by a few, while open source can lead to risks. Crypto enables decentralized business models and community control through tokens and voting rights.

      In the world of AI and crypto, there's an ongoing debate about the importance of open source versus security and decentralization. OpenAI, for instance, started with an open-source approach but later realized the risks. In contrast, crypto's core thesis is about building decentralized systems that are not controlled by a small group of people. Worldcoin, for example, aims to insert community control into the technology through tokens and voting rights. Crypto also enables decentralized business models through tokens and fee structures, making it a foundational technology that should not be controlled by a few. The Orb, an open-source hardware device in the context of Worldcoin, is expected to have multiple producers in the future, ensuring the protocol's longevity and decentralization. Ultimately, the goal is to create a foundational technology that is not susceptible to the whims of a single entity and can sustain itself.

    • Addressing potential risks of Rollcoin's identity verificationRollcoin is taking steps to prevent misuse of its identity verification technology by developing tools and a team to anticipate and mitigate potential threats, ensuring privacy and security.

      As Rollcoin, a privacy-preserving digital identity and currency platform, moves towards launch, there are important considerations around how to prevent misuse of the technology. Matt LaVine, a friend of the podcast, discussed the potential risks of identity verification falling into the wrong hands, such as companies using it for targeted advertising or even governments using it for surveillance. To address these concerns, Rollcoin is currently engaging in extensive planning to anticipate and mitigate potential worst-case scenarios. This includes developing tools for Humanity, a team dedicated to exploring potential threats and creating solutions. The team is considering a range of possibilities, from malicious attacks to unintended consequences, and is working to ensure that the technology remains privacy-preserving and secure. Ultimately, the goal is to create a system that empowers individuals while minimizing the risks of misuse.

    • Secure and accurate identification through iris scanningWorldcoin's orb verification system uses advanced technology and multiple layers of security to ensure secure and accurate identification through iris scanning, addressing the need for more secure identification systems in areas without robust infrastructure.

      Worldcoin's orb verification system is designed to ensure secure and accurate identification of users through iris scanning, using advanced technology and multiple layers of security to prevent fraud and physical attacks. The system's use of multispectral imaging and sophisticated neural networks makes it difficult to fool, although there are still potential vulnerabilities that are being addressed. Adoption of this technology may be driven by the need for more secure identification systems in areas without robust infrastructure, and despite concerns over privacy and the potential for misuse, the benefits of increased security and access may outweigh these concerns. Ultimately, the goal is to create a decentralized and accessible identification system that can be used by anyone, anywhere, to verify their identity securely and efficiently.

    • WorldID's token system and orb technologyWorldID's token system incentivizes users and enables integrations, with the cost of producing the orb coming down and expected to be under $500 in a few years, while large tech companies and services integrate, creating a potential flywheel effect.

      WorldID is a new project that uses a token system to incentivize users and enable integrations with various services. The token serves as a form of UBI and provides direct financial incentives for users. However, the production of the hardware required for this project, called an orb, faced significant supply chain challenges during the COVID-19 pandemic. Despite these challenges, the cost of producing the orb is coming down and is expected to be below $500 in a few years. The integration of large technology companies and services with WorldID is also a key focus, creating a potential flywheel effect as users gain access to more services. Overall, WorldID's token system and orb technology aim to provide users with ownership in the network and access to various services, making it an exciting and evolving project.

    • Discussing the Future of Decentralized Digital Identification and AI AdoptionThe future of decentralized digital identification through technologies like Worldcoin raises concerns about privacy and potential middlemen control, while AI adoption may lead to job displacement and the need for Universal Basic Income.

      The conversation between the hosts and their guest, Alex Blania, touched on the potential future use of technology like Worldcoin, which involves eyeball scanning for decentralized digital identification. While some see benefits such as convenience and decentralization, others raise concerns about privacy and the potential for middlemen to control such databases. Additionally, the hosts discussed the potential implications of widespread AI adoption and the possibility of Universal Basic Income (UBI) becoming necessary due to job displacement. The conversation also touched on the idea of creating a problem and then offering a solution as a business model. Overall, the conversation highlighted the complex and multifaceted nature of emerging technologies and their potential impact on society.

    • Bloomberg launches new podcast 'Money Stuff'Bloomberg introduces weekly podcast 'Money Stuff' hosted by Matt Levine and Katie Greifeld, bringing finance news and insights to listeners via engaging discussions.

      Bloomberg is launching a new podcast called Money Stuff, hosted by Matt Levine and Katie Greifeld. Levine is known for his popular Wall Street finance newsletter, and he and Greifeld will be bringing that same insightful and engaging content to a weekly podcast format. Listeners can tune in every Friday to hear them discuss finance news and other interesting topics. Money Stuff is now available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and other major podcast platforms. This collaboration between two well-respected Bloomberg media personalities promises to deliver valuable and entertaining content for finance enthusiasts and anyone interested in the world of money.

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