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    The History of The English Working Class with Professor Carl Chinn

    enFebruary 06, 2024

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    • Turning disappointments into opportunitiesAcknowledge disappointments, stay calm, and proactively seek solutions to turn potential disappointments into opportunities for adventure and growth.

      Life presents us with disappointments, but it's how we respond to them that matters. The speaker shares his experience of feeling disappointed about the closure of the Viking Museum in Oslo, but instead of letting that feeling consume him, he chooses to acknowledge it and look for alternative ways to enjoy his trip. He also shares the importance of emotional awareness and challenging negative thoughts, as illustrated by his experience of getting water trapped in his ear and the potential consequences of flying with it. By staying calm and proactively seeking solutions, he turns potential disappointments into opportunities for adventure and growth.

    • Mindfulness helps us respond effectively to challengesMindfulness allows us to acknowledge triggers, challenge unhelpful thought patterns, and respond effectively to challenges instead of getting bogged down by unnecessary suffering.

      Being mindfully aware of our emotions and reactions can help us respond effectively to challenges instead of getting bogged down by unnecessary suffering. Using the example of water in his ear, the speaker explains how mindfulness allowed him to calmly find a solution instead of getting stuck in a cycle of negative emotions and rumination. He emphasizes the importance of acknowledging personal triggers and challenging unhelpful thought patterns. By practicing mindfulness, we can catch and address small issues before they spiral out of control and disrupt our lives. The speaker also shares his experience of connecting with historian Karl Chinn, emphasizing the importance of curiosity, knowledge, and generosity in understanding history.

    • Exploring English History with Inclusivity and UnderstandingHistorian Carl Chinn emphasizes the importance of approaching history with inclusivity and understanding, focusing on the experiences of all people in England's past. English working class history is underrepresented in education, leading to a lack of pride and knowledge.

      It's important to approach the study of history with inclusivity and understanding, as demonstrated by historian Carl Chinn. Chinn's work focuses on English history, but he does so from a perspective that values community and the experiences of all people living in England. The fear of coming off as nationalistic or adjacent to fascism is a valid concern, but Chinn manages to navigate this territory with grace and insight. During their conversation, they touched on various topics including the history of the English working class, the Anglo-Saxons, and even the Peaky Blinders. Chinn's knowledge is vast, making for an engaging and informative discussion. The speaker also expressed a desire to learn more about the English working class and their history, recognizing that there is a lack of education on this topic in England compared to other countries. He lamented that English people sometimes feel hesitant to express pride in their heritage due to the negative associations. Throughout the conversation, Chinn's Birmingham accent added to the authenticity and charm of the discussion. They also mentioned a few specific historical sites, such as the Sycamore Gap tree and the Crooked House pub, which further illustrate the rich history of England.

    • The destruction of historically significant buildings raises concerns and angerPreserve old structures instead of demolishing them under health and safety concerns. Recognize and celebrate the commonalities and unity among different socio-economic classes, particularly the working class, and learn from historical figures like Thomas Atwood and the Chartist movement who fought for democracy and unity.

      The destruction of historically significant buildings, like the one in question that represented a shift from agriculture to industry and was about to be listed, raises concerns and anger among the community. This issue highlights the need for preservation of old structures, rather than letting them deteriorate and then demolishing them under the guise of health and safety concerns. Furthermore, the speaker emphasizes the importance of recognizing and celebrating the commonalities and unity among different socio-economic classes, particularly the working class, whose voices and histories have been marginalized in recent times. He shares examples of working class heroes, such as Thomas Atwood and the Chartist movement, who fought for democracy and the extension of the vote for the working class. These historical figures demonstrate the power of unity and the importance of standing together to effect change.

    • Chartist Movement for Political Reform and Social JusticeIn 19th century England, the Chartist movement led by Irish and Welsh laborers fought for equal electoral districts, regular parliaments, and fair wages, inspiring future labor movements and democratic reforms despite opposition and violence.

      The Chartist movement in 19th century England was a significant period of working-class activism for political reform and social justice. Led primarily by Irish and Welsh laborers, the movement aimed to secure equal electoral districts, regular parliaments, and fair wages. Despite facing intense opposition and violence from the gentry and militia, the Chartists continued to fight for their rights, inspiring future generations of labor movements and democratic reforms. The enclosures of common land, which restricted access to resources for the rural poor, played a significant role in fueling the Chartist movement. The power to enclose land lay with the gentry and lords, leading to conflicts and struggles over resources. The militia, which was largely composed of the gentry and their supporters, was often called upon to maintain order and suppress protests. Despite the challenges, influential writers like Thomas Hardy captured the spirit of the English peasantry and the end of rural life, inspiring future generations with their works. The Chartist movement ultimately paved the way for broader democratic reforms and the eventual establishment of a more equitable society.

    • The Peterloo Massacre: A pivotal moment in the long-standing battle between the English working class and the ruling class.Understanding local histories provides unique perspectives and a voice to advocate for change, especially for those impacted by colonization.

      The Peterloo Massacre of 1819, a significant event in English history often overlooked, was a pivotal moment in the long-standing battle between the English working class and the ruling class. The class system in England during this time prioritized property over the suffering poor, leading to unequal treatment in the law. This history, with its lessons of empathy and understanding of our own localities, is crucial for reaching out to the world and promoting human rights. The importance of learning about our past, especially local histories, can provide unique perspectives and a voice to advocate for change. From the Irish perspective, this history serves as a reminder of colonization and the privilege that comes with being able to use that voice to stop similar human rights abuses. A great example of this is the situation in Roscommon, Ireland, where the unique history of colonization can inspire empathy and action.

    • Exploring Roscommon, Ireland's rich history beyond the surfaceRoscommon, Ireland, holds historical significance and teaches valuable lessons about empathy and understanding, despite being overlooked by travelers. The town's museum emphasizes the struggles of various communities, including the Irish during the Potato Famine and contemporary famines in Ethiopia, inspiring activism and challenging biases.

      Roscommon, Ireland, may be overlooked by travelers due to its proximity to other popular destinations, but it holds significant historical importance. The O'Connors, the oldest family in Europe, resided there, and the town of Strokes Town has a rich history, including the Mahons, who were once Catholic landowners who sent people on the "coffin ships" during the Irish Potato Famine. However, the museum in Strokes Town doesn't only focus on Irish suffering; it also highlights contemporary famines and the struggles of other communities, including Ethiopia. This emphasis on understanding and empathizing with others' struggles is a valuable lesson, as seen in the actions of Irish activists like Sinead O'Connor and Bernadette Devlin, who fought for representation and equality despite facing backlash. It's important to remember and celebrate these histories, while also acknowledging and challenging unconscious biases and racism, both in Ireland and globally.

    • Feeling out of place despite success due to working-class backgroundWorking-class backgrounds can lead to feelings of inadequacy and lack of self-confidence, despite accomplishments. Addressing these issues is crucial for creating a more equitable society.

      Growing up working class and experiencing a different educational environment can lead to feelings of inadequacy and lack of self-confidence, even with accomplishments and success. The speaker's experience of being brought up in a working-class background, despite having an education, made her feel out of place when interacting with middle-class individuals. This feeling of not belonging and lack of confidence can persist throughout one's life, despite achieving success. The speaker also mentioned how her experiences influenced her perspective on the importance of education and providing opportunities for future generations. The speaker's journey highlights the impact of class and social background on self-confidence and the importance of addressing these issues to create a more equitable society.

    • Family stories fueled individual's curiosity and determinationGrowing up surrounded by stories of working-class life from family sparked curiosity and love for history. Despite challenges, individual is determined to break cycle of poverty and give back to community. Education is key to a better world, and supporting creators and artists allows them to continue producing joyful content.

      The power of storytelling and the influence of family and community played a significant role in shaping this individual's life and aspirations. Growing up, he was surrounded by stories of working-class life from his family members, which sparked his curiosity and love for history. Despite facing challenges, he was determined to break the cycle of poverty and give back to his community. He believes that education is the key to a better world and hopes to open doors of opportunity for all. The podcast host also emphasizes the importance of supporting creators and artists, as it allows them to continue producing content that brings joy and distraction to their audience. The use of humor and storytelling in the podcast further underscores the power of connection and community.

    • Respecting dialects as part of cultural heritageDialects hold deep cultural significance and should be respected as part of our heritage. They represent a connection to our ancestors and have literary value. Oral storytelling traditions preserve dialects and cultural identity in new environments.

      Language and dialects, especially those considered non-standard, hold deep cultural significance and should be respected. Professor Karl Chinn shared his personal experiences of facing prejudice for using dialect words in his career. He emphasized that these words are part of his heritage and represent his connection to his ancestors. Shakespeare, who grew up in Warwickshire, used dialect words in his plays, demonstrating their literary value. Oral storytelling traditions, which can be traced back thousands of years, are another important aspect of dialects and cultural heritage. Industrialization and urbanization led to a disconnection from the countryside, but people brought their words and stories with them, preserving their cultural identity in new environments.

    • Exploring the origins and significance of dialect words in WarwickshireUnderstanding dialect words and their origins can deepen our appreciation for history and cultural heritage. Many have Anglo Saxon, French, or pre-Celtic roots, and are essential to preserve.

      The use of dialect words and understanding their origins can provide valuable connections to our history and cultural heritage. These words, many of which have their roots in the countryside, are poetical, historical, and help us trace our roots. For instance, words like "misskins" and "blarting" have Anglo Saxon origins and have been brought into urban areas. Similarly, the use of French and Anglo Saxon words in our daily language, even in our dinner plates, reflects the historical influence of different cultures. Moreover, the names of places and rivers in Warwickshire are predominantly Anglo Saxon, with a few pre-Celtic and Welsh influences. For example, the name Warwick means a homestead where there is a weir on the River Avon. The river Avon is called Abona in Welsh, and the name Arden, which is prevalent in North Warwickshire, is a pre-Celtic word for an upland, wooded area. It's essential to recognize and appreciate these linguistic and cultural connections to our past. Unfortunately, many of these dialect words are dying out, and it's crucial that we make an effort to preserve them. By understanding our origins and the influences that have shaped our language and culture, we can gain a deeper appreciation for our history and the richness of our linguistic heritage.

    • Anglo-Saxon history and its impact on place namesAnglo-Saxon history influenced place names in Birmingham and surrounding areas through their pagan beliefs, while Irish mythology was preserved through a combination of oral and written traditions.

      Our shared history, even if it dates back thousands of years, is what connects us as a community. Birmingham, for instance, has a rich history rooted in Anglo-Saxon beliefs and migrations. The Angles, who were not from a wooded area as commonly believed, but from a flatland where the sea was encroaching, settled in the Midlands, including areas around Birmingham, Coventry, and the Black Country. These places bear names derived from their pagan beliefs, such as the god Wodan, whose name is reflected in Wednesbury and Walsall. The Anglo-Saxons were known as pagans because they held on to their old gods longer than those in the cities. This loyalty to their beliefs is reflected in the place names that have survived to this day. While the Anglo-Saxon period may not seem that long ago, it was a time when oral traditions were the primary means of passing down stories and mythology. In contrast, when Patrick brought Christianity to Ireland around the same time, he also brought Latin, which allowed the Irish to write down their mythology, preserving it for future generations. This combination of oral and written traditions has allowed us to learn about fascinating figures like Cu Chulainn, the hound of Culainn, and understand the rich cultural heritage that shapes our communities today.

    • Irish mythology and history intertwinedIrish stories have been passed down for centuries, showcasing depth and detail. Irish people played a role in preserving Latin and writing during the Roman Empire's collapse, influencing English and Scottish cultures.

      Irish mythology and history are richly interconnected, and these stories have been passed down orally and through writing for centuries. Setanta's tale of losing a game, killing a dog, and becoming a hound is just one example of this tradition. Similarly, the legend of Queen Maeve and the Brown Bull of Cooley provides a map of Ireland, showcasing the depth and detail of these stories. Moreover, the Irish played a significant role in preserving and spreading Latin and writing during the collapse of the Roman Empire, influencing the English and Scottish cultures. The Irish people's ability to adapt and preserve their stories and traditions despite foreign invasions and cultural shifts is a testament to their resilience and the enduring power of their narrative heritage.

    • The Normans' invasion of England in 1066 and its impact on the ruling classThe Normans' invasion of England in 1066 marked the beginning of English colonization, the imposition of a new ruling class, and the introduction of hereditary surnames

      The Normans' invasion of England in 1066 led to significant loss for the Anglo-Saxons, including the destruction of their nobility and the imposition of a new ruling class. This historical event marked the beginning of English colonization and the extraction of wealth. During a conversation backstage, the speakers discussed the origins of surnames and how the Normans introduced hereditary surnames, such as Fitzgerald and Fitzpatrick, which are often associated with Irish names. The Normans came to England with the intention of asserting their power, building castles, and harvesting resources. King Harold, aware of the impending invasion, chose to face Harold Hardrada from Scandinavia instead of William the Conqueror, ultimately leading to his defeat. The Normans then pillaged, raped, and murdered in Harold's earldom, further solidifying their control. English people should understand the historical significance of this event and its impact on the ruling class and the colonization of England.

    • The Norman Conquest's Impact on English SocietyThe Norman Conquest brought significant changes, including language and societal structure losses, hereditary surnames, and new laws. It also introduced harsh punishments and preserved Anglo-Saxon heritage in English blood.

      The Norman Conquest of England in 1066 led to significant changes in English society, including the loss of Anglo-Saxon land and language, the introduction of hereditary surnames, and new laws regarding property and poaching. One Anglo-Saxon lord, Churchill, became a direct ancestor of Shakespeare's mother, Mary Arden, preserving Anglo-Saxon heritage in English blood. The Normans also brought about harsh punishments for crimes, as seen in the case of Jeremiah Cochran, who was sent to prison at a young age and subjected to brutal treatment. These historical events provide a context for understanding the complex relationship between the English and their past, as well as the lingering impact of colonialism and the criminal justice system on individuals and communities. Despite the passage of time, it is essential to learn from these lessons and address the systemic issues that continue to affect people's lives today.

    • Impact of colonialism on customs, foods, and animalsColonialism led to the adoption and adaptation of various elements from colonizers, but these introductions often carried negative connotations for the colonized people.

      The influence of colonial powers, such as the Normans in Ireland, extended beyond just land and resources. It also included the adoption of customs, foods, and even animals. However, the way these elements were received and perceived by the colonized people often held negative connotations. For instance, the Normans' introduction of hedgehogs to Ireland resulted in the derogatory name "graan yogue," meaning "ugly little thing." Similarly, the treatment of indigenous peoples in America, as depicted in films like "Soldier Blue," brought awareness to the harsh realities of colonization and its long-lasting impacts, including intergenerational trauma and loss of land and resources. Overall, the discussion highlights the complex and multifaceted nature of colonialism and its enduring impact on cultures and communities.

    • The Peaky Blinders: Myth vs. RealityThe Peaky Blinders, as depicted in popular culture, are often romanticized as heroes, but the original gang members were violent, abusive, and engaged in criminal activities, including assaulting women and the police.

      The Peaky Blinders, as portrayed in popular culture, are often glamorized and romanticized as heroes. However, the original gang members were not heroes but rather backstreet thugs who engaged in violent behavior, bullied the decent poor, and baited the police. They wore bowler hats, not flat caps, and their main weapon was a belt buckle. The myth of razor blades in flat caps is just that – a myth. These gangsters were known for their violent and abusive behavior towards women, and some, like the speaker's great grandfather, were also thieves and assaulted the police. Today, there is a danger that people may identify with the Peaky Blinders image as a symbol of Englishness or even fascist ideologies, which is a concerning development that should not be ignored. It's essential to recognize the reality behind the drama and understand the negative impact of glamorizing gangsterism.

    • Romanticized portrayals of mafia-style gangstersDespite their on-screen charm, mafia groups like the Calabrio mafia, Andragata, and Albanian mafia have been linked to harmful criminal activities, including drug trafficking, rubbish scams, and piracy. It's crucial to remember the real-life harm caused by these organizations and challenge the romanticized depictions in popular culture.

      The glamorization of mafia-style gangsters, as portrayed in shows like "Peaky Blinders" and "The Sopranos," can be misleading. These characters, represented by figures like Tommy Shelby and Tony Soprano, may not be the nice or compassionate individuals they appear to be on screen. In reality, mafia groups, such as the Calabrio mafia, Andragata, and Albanian mafia, have been involved in criminal activities like drug trafficking, rubbish scams, and piracy, which have caused harm to communities and individuals. The connection between poverty and crime is complex, and it's essential to remember that the vast majority of people living in poverty are hardworking and respectable. Additionally, there is a problem with gender bias, as women who speak strongly are often labeled as aggressive, while men's strong speech is seen as discussion or gossip. Overall, it's important to be aware of the complexities and negative consequences of gangsterism and to challenge the romanticized portrayals of these groups in popular culture.

    • Exploring a Flotation Tank in Oslo and Starting a PodcastThe speaker plans to visit a flotation tank in Oslo and start a podcast, encouraging listeners to consider UnitedHealthcare's Health ProtectorGuard plans for healthcare cost management.

      The speaker is traveling to Oslo for some gigs and intends to try out a flotation tank from a local company called Floating Oslo. He also mentioned that he plans to start his own podcast and hopes to have the guest from the current conversation on it. The speaker also encouraged listeners to check out UnitedHealthcare's Health ProtectorGuard fixed indemnity insurance plans to help manage out-of-pocket healthcare costs. Additionally, the speaker ended the podcast with some light-hearted advice to "rub a swan and genuflect to a worm," "kiss a cat," and "see you next week."

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