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    The Necessity of Virtue

    enDecember 22, 2016
    How does Jordan Peterson define virtue?
    What is the relationship between virtue and suffering?
    Why is self-discovery important for understanding virtue?
    What is modern materialism's effect on our understanding of virtue?
    How can individuals strive for living virtuously?

    Podcast Summary

    • Understanding Virtue: A Fundamental Way of BeingVirtue is a necessity for living a fulfilling and meaningful life by recognizing the fundamental nature of pain, consciousness, and self-consciousness.

      Virtue is not just a moral code or a set of ethical guidelines, but a fundamental way of being that underpins all aspects of life. Dr. Jordan Peterson emphasizes that the absence of virtue in relationships can lead to suffering and torment. He also argues that understanding the nature of being, which includes emotional, motivational, and conscious elements, is essential for grasping the concept of virtue. According to Peterson, modern materialistic perspectives have blinded us to the true nature of being and our own consciousness. By recognizing the fundamental nature of pain, consciousness, and self-consciousness, we can begin to understand the importance of virtue in our lives. Ultimately, virtue is a necessity for living a fulfilling and meaningful life.

    • The truth of life's sufferingAccepting suffering as a part of life frees us from illusions and opens up new possibilities

      Life's suffering is a fundamental truth about existence, and it's not a cause for pessimism but rather a source of freedom and understanding. We are finite beings with inherent limitations, and acknowledging this reality frees us from the illusion that life can be lived without suffering. This idea is symbolized by the Jewish concept of the shattered vessels, representing the fragility and limitations of human existence. The acceptance of suffering as an integral part of being opens up new possibilities and allows us to appreciate the value of life despite its challenges.

    • The importance of minimizing evil actionsHistorical evidence shows that seemingly ordinary people can be swayed to do morally questionable things. Believing in minimizing the probability of engaging in such actions is a universally accepted notion.

      Belief in the concept of virtue may be challenging in modern times due to skepticism towards religious or transcendent ideas. However, the belief in the existence of evil and the importance of minimizing the probability of engaging in evil actions is a more universally accepted notion. The historical evidence shows that even seemingly ordinary people can be swayed to do morally questionable things under certain circumstances. The Nuremberg trials demonstrated that there is a transnational and transcendent morality that condemns actions such as torture and genocide. Therefore, living virtuously means minimizing the likelihood of engaging in such actions, even if one believes they would have acted differently in specific historical situations.

    • The story of Adam and Eve illustrates our vulnerability and awareness of itRealization of vulnerability led to human culture, understanding of good and evil, and ability to inflict harm

      Our vulnerability and awareness of it are key elements in the development of human consciousness. The biblical story of Adam and Eve's encounter with a snake and the fruit of knowledge illustrates this concept. Our enhanced visual abilities, which help us detect predators and ripe fruit, are linked to our evolutionary past. The realization of our vulnerability and nakedness led to the creation of culture and the understanding of good and evil. This awareness of our vulnerability also enables us to inflict harm on others, distinguishing us from animals. Self-awareness and the recognition of our limitations are crucial aspects of human development.

    • Understanding our capacity for good and evilAcknowledging our role in our actions and their impact on others can help us strive for virtue and prevent harm.

      Recognizing our capacity for evil can help us understand our potential for good, but it's important not to judge ourselves or the world around us too harshly. The story of Cain and Abel illustrates this concept, as Cain becomes resentful and assumes God is responsible for his suffering, only to be told that his own actions have led to his misery. This realization ultimately leads Cain to commit a violent act of revenge against his brother. By acknowledging our role in our own lives and the impact of our actions on others, we can strive for virtue and prevent harm to ourselves and those around us. Ultimately, we are all connected in a vast network of causality, and every action matters.

    • Accepting individual consciousness mattersPractice honesty, communicate effectively, and address resentment to avoid cruelty and create a just world.

      Life may seem meaningless and filled with suffering, but if we accept that our individual consciousness matters, then everything we do holds significance. However, this responsibility can lead to resentment if we feel taken advantage of. To avoid this, we must practice honesty, communicate effectively, and consider whether our resentment stems from external circumstances or internal issues. Refusing to address these feelings can lead to cruelty and atrocity, as seen in historical examples like Hitler and Stalin. Instead, we should focus on virtues and work towards creating a just world, rather than forcing it to conform to our terms. Ultimately, understanding the interconnectedness of consciousness and suffering can help us navigate the complexities of existence and live more meaningful lives.

    • The desire for justification and virtue in utopian thinkingReflect on justified and unjustified suffering, engage in meaningful activities, and embrace introspection to find meaning and grow.

      People are drawn to utopian thinking as a way to justify their existence and mask their tendencies towards atrocity with the appearance of virtue. This desire for justification is particularly evident in ideological systems that don't allow room for suffering or self-doubt. To find meaning and justification for our suffering, we should reflect on times when our suffering is justified and when it is not. Engagement in meaningful activities can help us forget about self-consciousness and the passing of time, making our suffering worth it. Conversely, we can learn from moments when our being does not justify itself and use that knowledge to grow and improve. Ultimately, it's important to pay attention to what our being is revealing to us and not shy away from the responsibility of introspection.

    • Embrace experiences, let go of rational thinkingEngaging in experiences fully can lead to deeper self-understanding and connection with the world. Let go of rational thinking and embrace the unknown for growth.

      Being present and fully engaged in experiences, whether in everyday life or through art and storytelling, can lead to a deeper understanding and connection with oneself and the world. This can involve letting go of rational thinking and embracing the unknown, as well as practicing active listening and empathy towards others. The idea of wishing on a star and striving for the transcendent can also be a powerful motivator for personal growth and virtue. Ultimately, the importance of being over thinking is a recurring theme in various philosophical and mythological traditions.

    • Listen to your inner wisdom and fulfill obligationsFollowing inner wisdom and obligations can alleviate suffering and provide direction, even in uncertain times. Live authentically by pursuing purpose and joy, despite obstacles.

      Following your inner wisdom and fulfilling your obligations every day can help alleviate suffering and provide a sense of direction, even if the future is uncertain. This approach, rooted in the belief that our wisdom is deeper than mere rationality, encourages us to listen to ourselves, pay attention to what's meaningful, and fight for it with courage and honesty. By doing what resonates with us, we can live a more authentic and fulfilling life, rather than trying to force a preconceived utopian outcome. This idea is not about following a strict moral code, but rather recognizing and pursuing what brings us purpose and joy, even if it requires overcoming internal and external obstacles.

    • Honesty is key to personal growth and making meaningful choicesBeing honest, even if painful, helps us identify and address issues, leading to healthier relationships and personal growth. Honesty leads to self-discovery and can guide us towards a fulfilling life.

      Honesty is essential for personal growth and making meaningful choices in life. Lack of honesty can lead to corruption of one's intuition, which in turn can guide us the wrong way. It can make us bitter, resentful, and weak, leading us to follow the wrong people or beliefs. Being honest, even if it's painful, helps us identify and address issues, leading to healthier relationships and personal growth. Following our internal intuitions and being honest about it can help us discover what makes our life meaningful and guide us towards it. Mistakes are part of the journey, and being honest about them helps us learn and self-correct over time. Ultimately, belief systems have a religious foundation, and living in accordance with them, not just in the afterlife but in the present, can lead to a fulfilling life.

    • The pursuit of virtue and living in the realm of heavenStrive for what brings joy and fulfillment to continuously seek out what's good for us and live virtuously, potentially discovering our true potential and positively impacting others.

      Life is a journey between the extremes of hell and heaven, and it's up to each individual to strive for virtue and live in the realm of heaven. According to Jordan Peterson, virtue is the pursuit of seeing and living in the kingdom of heaven. It's a personal quest that requires questioning and self-discovery. We all have the potential to be remarkably good or abysmally awful, and our actions have far-reaching consequences. To find out what's good for us, we should watch our own lives and do what brings us joy and fulfillment. The most profound and useful thing we can do is to continuously seek out what's good for us and live accordingly. By doing so, we may discover our true potential and make a positive impact on those around us.

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