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    The University of Impossible-to-Get-Into (Update)

    en-usAugust 22, 2024
    What illegal means do wealthy parents use for admissions?
    Why are elite university degrees highly sought after?
    What challenges do elite universities face in expanding admissions?
    What benefits does the college experience provide beyond signaling?
    How does reputation affect the perceived quality of elite education?

    Podcast Summary

    • Elite University Admissions ScandalDespite limited spots and high demand, wealthy parents resort to illegal means to secure their children's admission to elite universities, emphasizing the value and potential benefits of an elite degree

      The demand for spots at elite universities far outstrips the supply, leading some wealthy parents to resort to illegal means to secure their children's admission. The scarcity of these coveted spots makes them incredibly valuable, and parents are willing to pay exorbitant sums to ensure their children's acceptance. The competition for these spots is so fierce that even top universities like Harvard, Yale, and Stanford have seen record-breaking application numbers. Despite the high cost and limited availability, an elite degree is highly sought after for its brand value and potential life-changing benefits. However, the lack of expansion at the most selective universities is a puzzle, as the number of students seeking higher education has nearly doubled in the last 50 years. This scarcity creates a unique market dynamic for elite universities, where reputation and exclusivity are the primary selling points.

    • Elite colleges as luxury goodsElite colleges have become status symbols, leading to competition on prestige and lower admission rates due to human instinct to celebrate exclusivity

      The elite colleges' decision to stop expanding and become more selective in the late 20th century can be explained by the dynamics of a luxury goods market. Elite colleges have become status symbols, and scarcity adds value to the college experience. As a result, universities compete on prestige, leading to lower admission rates and increased competition. This phenomenon is not just driven by students applying to more schools, but also by the colleges' desire to maintain their exclusive brand. This dynamic is not unique to university administrators, but is shared by parents, students, and alumni as well. The US News and World Report college rankings may have amplified this trend, but the underlying cause is the human instinct to celebrate exclusivity.

    • Elite university expansionElite universities face a dilemma between expanding to increase access and maintaining prestige, with potential consequences for educational quality and brand exploitation.

      While a small percentage of universities, such as the Ivy League schools in the US and the Group of Eight universities in Australia, educate a disproportionately large number of students, there is a debate on whether these elite institutions should expand their undergraduate enrollment. Expansion could increase access to higher education, but it might also dilute the prestige of these universities. Some institutions have opened satellite campuses in wealthy countries, raising concerns about the potential loss of educational quality and the exploitation of the institutions' brands. Ultimately, the decision to expand or not depends on the values and priorities of each institution. While some may prioritize access and inclusivity, others may prioritize maintaining the exclusivity and prestige associated with their brand. Regardless, the decision should be made with careful consideration to ensure that the educational experience remains of high quality.

    • College Signaling vs Human CapitalWhile a college degree functions as a social signal for better careers, the college experience offers additional benefits such as human capital accumulation through study groups and social connections. However, the benefits may not be uniform across all students and institutions.

      According to economist Brian Kaplan, a college degree functions as a social signal, driving a need for more education for better careers. However, former Northwestern University president Morty Shapiro argues that the college experience offers significant benefits beyond signaling, such as human capital accumulation through study groups and social connections. A study by Stacey Bergdale and Alan Krueger found no significant wage benefit for attending a more selective college once other factors were held constant. However, there may be benefits for certain groups, such as economically disadvantaged students and minorities. Despite this, reputation and prestige may trump actual instruction quality at elite universities, according to Miguel Urquiola. Morty Shapiro found that students who took intro courses with non-tenure track professors performed better in advanced courses. Elite universities may prioritize research over classroom instruction, leading to potential trade-offs in instruction quality. However, the preservation of elite status can be seen as both a selfish and noble incentive.

    • University Reputation vs FitUniversities with high reputation offer advantages in the labor market, but maintaining prestige while expanding access to more students is a challenge. Focusing on educational expenditures, student services, and shared resources can help universities grow and provide quality education to larger student bodies.

      Prestigious universities have access to abundant resources and talent due to their high status. For students and parents, deciding between reputation and fit in college choices can be challenging. Reputation refers to the brand value attached to a student, while fit concerns what a school offers in terms of teaching and skills development. The evidence suggests that reputation matters in the labor market, but expanding elite schools to accommodate more students while maintaining prestige is a challenge. However, universities like the University of California system have managed to grow and provide quality education to a larger student body by focusing on direct educational expenditures, strong student services, and a shared network of resources. This approach can serve as a model for other universities looking to expand access while preserving their reputation.

    • Elite university expansionThe lack of coordination and legal constraints hinder elite universities from expanding access and preserving quality through collaboration, despite growing concerns over exclusivity and the need to receive an anti-trust exemption.

      While the idea of elite universities collaborating to expand access and preserve quality may seem utopian, it's hindered by the lack of coordination and legal constraints. The universities' inability to coordinate and the negative consequences of past collusion make it challenging for them to receive an anti-trust exemption. Despite the growing concern over the exclusivity of elite universities, expansion remains a complex issue. The Supreme Court's decision on affirmative action and the increasing scrutiny on admissions further highlight the need for universities to consider expanding their supply. However, the challenges of coordination and the negative associations with past collusion make this a complex issue to address.

    • University Value PropositionUniversities should consider expanding access to high-quality education or maintaining exclusivity based on their perceived value and mission. Research and its societal impact should be emphasized to counteract criticism of universities as just expensive hedge funds.

      Universities need to reflect on the true value they are providing and whether they should focus on expanding access to education or maintaining exclusivity. The speaker argues that if universities believe they are creating value through high-quality education, they should make it accessible to more people. However, if they view their product as a scarce luxury good, they may want to restrict supply to maintain exclusivity. The speaker also defends universities against the criticism that they are just hedge funds with classrooms, highlighting the importance of research and the impact it has on society. The decline in public confidence in higher education is attributed to the increasing cost and the perception of universities as places of intellectual safety rather than intellectual growth. The speaker suggests that universities should focus on their core mission of education and research, rather than getting involved in political and social issues. The speaker also suggests that universities should consider collaborating on admissions to improve access to education, but acknowledges that this would require an exception to antitrust laws.

    • University admissions ratesUniversities face a prisoner's dilemma situation when it comes to admissions rates, where expanding can make them less selective but also more accessible to a larger pool of students. Collaboration or government intervention could help increase supply and make education more accessible to a broader audience.

      Universities find themselves in a prisoner's dilemma situation when it comes to admissions rates. If one university decides to expand its admissions, it becomes less selective compared to its peers, and they are unlikely to follow suit. This was exemplified in the case of Harvard, UVA, and Princeton eliminating their early decision programs in 2007, hoping others would follow. However, Yale and Stanford did not, resulting in Harvard's admissions rate increasing, and Stanford surpassing Harvard as the most selective university. The situation calls for cooperation between universities, which could come in the form of government intervention or incentives to expand supply. Universities need to demonstrate they are serving the public by opening up opportunities to more people, making it an "easy win." The conversation with Peter Blair on Freakonomics Radio highlighted the importance of collaboration and the potential consequences of not doing so.

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