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    What Exactly Is College For? (Update)

    en-usAugust 15, 2024
    What are the current challenges facing higher education in the US?
    How does trust in higher education affect enrollment rates?
    What role do HBCUs play in income mobility?
    How do mid-tier schools aid in social mobility?
    What investments are being made in community colleges?

    Podcast Summary

    • Higher Education ChallengesDespite benefits, less than 40% of U.S. adults have confidence in higher education due to challenges like declining enrollment, closures, mergers, and free speech debates. Colleges must regain trust and remember their societal responsibility.

      Higher education in the United States is facing numerous challenges, including declining enrollment, closures and mergers, and heated debates over free speech on campus. Trust in higher education is eroding, and colleges, especially elite institutions, have had to navigate these issues while maintaining their reputations and dealing with internal turmoil. Despite the benefits of a college education, such as higher lifetime earnings and increased civic engagement, not everyone holds the same enthusiasm for it. According to a recent Gallup poll, less than 40% of U.S. adults express a great deal or quite a lot of confidence in higher education. It's important for colleges to regain trust and consider their responsibility to the broader society. The economic activity of college is seen as a significant investment for individuals and society, but it's crucial to remember that most Americans do not have a college degree.

    • Higher Education AffordabilityThe high cost of college and lack of affordability, particularly for lower-income students and students from Black and Latino families, is exacerbating income inequality and needs to be addressed.

      The decline in college enrollment, particularly among lower-income students and students from Black and Latino families, is pushing us in the wrong direction in our efforts to reduce income inequality. The pandemic has worsened this trend, and it's a concern because college is a powerful tool for shrinking income inequality. Economists and educators are now questioning the fundamental purpose of college and how it can be made more accessible and affordable for all. The US higher education system is unique in its high tuition costs, and the lack of price control has led to astronomical prices that can be a barrier for many students. Competition among colleges and universities also plays a role in setting prices and differentiating their offerings. As we move forward, it's essential to explore these questions and find solutions to make higher education more accessible and equitable for all.

    • US university system's resource disparitiesThe US university system's shift towards specialized, graduate-focused institutions led to a tiered system with significant resource disparities, perpetuating educational and societal inequality

      The US university system's shift towards specialized, graduate-focused institutions in the late 19th century, driven by competition for top faculty talent and the subsequent federal funding of research at elite universities during the Cold War, led to the establishment of a tiered system with significant resource disparities between the top research institutions and others. This system, while generating world-class research and technology, also perpetuates educational and societal inequality. Morty Shapiro, former president of Northwestern University, emphasizes that this system, funded largely by wealthy individuals and families, has its merits but also significant flaws, including the unequal distribution of resources and opportunities in education.

    • Mid-tier schools and social mobilityMid-tier schools contribute significantly to income and social mobility in the US by providing opportunities to students from less affluent backgrounds and helping them achieve better life outcomes.

      Certain mid-tier schools, like Hofstra, play a crucial role in income mobility and social mobility in the US. These schools, unlike elite institutions, often enroll students from less affluent backgrounds and help them achieve better life outcomes. For instance, Morty Shapiro, who went from minimum wage jobs to being a college president, credits Hofstra for providing him the opportunity to succeed. Research supports this, showing that mid-tier schools are more effective at moving students up the income distribution than elite institutions. While some for-profit colleges and community colleges also play important roles, they face unique challenges in helping students attain bachelor's degrees. Despite these challenges, it's essential to invest in these institutions to ensure that they have the resources needed to help students succeed.

    • Underrepresented Students in Higher EducationHistorically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) and community colleges play a crucial role in educating underrepresented students, particularly in STEM fields, and recent investments aim to expand opportunities

      While elite colleges receive a lot of attention, they educate only a small fraction of the college population. The majority of students attend public universities and mid-tier privates, with community colleges serving a large number of lower-income and minority students. Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) have been successful in driving income mobility, particularly for black students, producing a significant number of graduates in STEM fields. Mackenzie Scott and the federal government have recently invested billions in HBCUs and community colleges to provide opportunities for underrepresented students. Ruth Simmons, former president of Prairie View A&M University, shares her personal experience of how dedicated teachers and education opened doors for her, inspiring her to give back and help others.

    • Education's Transformative PowerEducation has the power to transform individuals, providing opportunities for growth, awareness, and the development of important principles. HBCUs prioritize student success and produce significant numbers of Black graduates.

      Education, particularly college education, has the power to transform individuals, regardless of their background or circumstances. This was evident in Ruth Simmons' personal journey, as she went from being an odd kid in a deeply segregated society to a college professor and university president. Education provides opportunities for growth, awareness, and the development of important principles. HBCUs, like Prairie View A&M, are mission-driven institutions that prioritize the success of their students, producing significant numbers of Black graduates in various fields. The transformative power of education is not just an economic investment, but a means to empower individuals and communities.

    • Higher Education ModelsElite institutions may produce top graduates but don't necessarily expand their reach, emphasizing the importance of personal growth and development in all educational backgrounds.

      Higher education serves various purposes and models, ranging from elite institutions focusing on producing top achievers to inclusive models ensuring everyone's growth. Dr. Ruth Simmons, a former president, emphasized the importance of good judgment over rule-following and the difference between mission-driven and competitive education models. While elite schools may pride themselves on producing the best graduates, they don't necessarily expand their reach, leading some to question their role as expensive signaling mechanisms. Ultimately, investing in personal growth and development, regardless of educational background or institution, is crucial for becoming the best possible version of oneself.

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