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    This Is Zoltan Pozsar's Vision For Bretton Woods III

    enApril 07, 2022

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    • Shifts in the global financial system: Traditional currencies questionedInvestors need to stay informed and adapt as the financial landscape shifts, with potential prioritization of physical commodities in a new monetary system

      The global financial system is undergoing significant changes, with the role of traditional currencies and reserves being questioned in light of geopolitical tensions and potential disruptions to commodity supply chains. Principal Asset Management, with its 360 degree perspective and expertise in public and private equity and debt, is well-positioned to help investors navigate these complexities. Zoltan Pozsar, a strategist at Credit Suisse and frequent Odd Lots guest, has been discussing these themes and predicts the evolution of a new monetary system that may prioritize physical commodities alongside traditional currencies. As the world grapples with these shifts, it's essential for investors to stay informed and adapt to the changing financial landscape.

    • A New Monetary System: Bretton Woods 3The new monetary system, Bretton Woods 3, will feature multiple currencies, including commodity-backed ones, playing bigger roles, addressing price stability issues and reflecting the multipolar economy.

      The monetary system we know today, which evolved from the Bretton Woods system after the 2nd World War, is shifting towards a new framework, Bretton Woods 3. In this new system, instead of a single dominant currency backed by gold, we will see a fragmented system where multiple currencies, including those backed by commodities, play a bigger role. This shift is a response to the current crisis, which is centered around commodities and the dominance of the US dollar. The new system aims to address price stability issues in certain parts of the world and reflects the multipolar nature of the global economy. This complex mosaic requires careful navigation and may involve some volatility and risk assets to bring about a more balanced economic landscape.

    • Understanding the Prices of MoneyMoney has multiple inherent prices beyond interest and exchange rates, including par, interest, foreign exchange, and price level. Imbalances in these prices can lead to financial crises.

      Money, as explained by Perry Merling, has multiple inherent prices beyond just the interest rate or the exchange rate. These prices include par, interest, foreign exchange, and the price level. Par refers to the trading relationship between different forms of money, such as bank deposits. Interest is the time value of money. Foreign exchange is the price of one currency against another. The price level is the price of commodities in terms of money. Understanding these prices and their relationships can provide insight into financial crises throughout history, such as the Southeast Asian crisis of 1997, the par crisis of 2008, and the bond basis crisis of March 2020. These crises were rooted in imbalances in these different prices of money.

    • Central banks tackle nominal crises, but commodity shortages and price fluctuations require a different approachCommodity trading, which is uniquely funded through banks, is experiencing a liquidity crisis despite banks having large amounts of cash, highlighting the need for alternative solutions during commodity market stresses

      During financial crises, someone has to step in and provide liquidity or buy troubled assets to resolve the issue. Central banks typically deal with nominal crises in their own currency, but they cannot address commodity shortages or price fluctuations. Commodity trading, which fully funds itself through bank credit lines, is currently experiencing a liquidity crisis despite the large amounts of cash held by banks. While traditional funding markets remain calm, commodity traders are facing stresses, as seen in high-interest credit lines and emergency liquidity requests. The tension lies in the fact that commodities can act as collateral but can also decline in price, potentially causing problems for those relying on them. However, commodity trading is uniquely funded through banks, which can lend excess cash without needing to tap the repo or FX swap markets.

    • Banks' Comfort Levels with Reserves Rising Amid Commodity VolatilityBanks face increasing liquidity strains due to commodity volatility, requiring larger reserves. Regulators should assess current LCLOR levels to prepare for potential defaults and market disruptions.

      The current volatility in commodity markets is leading to significant liquidity strains for banks, increasing the need for larger reserves. The value of these reserves is worth more in stable economic conditions than in times of commodity price shocks and volatility. The minimum level of reserves that banks feel comfortable running with (LCLOR) is likely increasing, and it's crucial for regulatory bodies like the Federal Reserve to conduct surveys to assess the current situation. The potential for defaults in the commodity world, whether from traders or clearinghouses, is a growing concern, and the markets could change drastically when such events occur. It's essential to keep an open mind about the potential risks and not assume that the absence of blow-ups today means they won't happen in the future.

    • Navigating Commodity Challenges in a Global EconomyUnderstanding the complexities of commodity production, transportation, and volatility is crucial for investors and policymakers to adapt and uncover opportunities in a commodity-driven economy.

      The world economy is facing unprecedented challenges, particularly in the realm of commodities. Commodities, unlike money, cannot be printed or easily moved, and their production and consumption are largely controlled by developing countries. The physical transportation of these commodities requires significant logistical efforts and protection against various risks. These challenges are magnified during periods of commodity volatility, which can lead to liquidity issues and funding pressures. The implications of a commodity-driven economy extend beyond just the price level, affecting various aspects of the global financial system. It's crucial for investors and policymakers to understand these complexities and adapt accordingly. Principal Asset Management, with its 360-degree perspective and expertise in public and private equity and debt, is well-positioned to help navigate these challenges and uncover compelling opportunities for its clients.

    • Geopolitical tensions disrupt commodity trade system, leading to alternative payment methodsGeopolitical tensions cause commodity supply chain disruptions, leading to alternative payment methods and complexities in physical movement and trading, resulting in shipping capacity issues, price fluctuations, and potential food shortages.

      The world is experiencing a significant shift in the global commodity trade system, with geopolitical tensions leading to disruptions in supply chains and alternative payment methods. This is reminiscent of the Bretton Woods agreement, which established the U.S. dollar as the dominant currency in international trade. However, the current situation is different, as commodities like oil and wheat are no longer being paid for in dollars but in alternative currencies or digital means. This change has led to complexities in the physical movement and trading of commodities, resulting in shipping capacity issues, price fluctuations, and potential food shortages. As the world adjusts to these new realities, it is essential to understand the intricacies of the physical commodity market and its implications on the global economy.

    • Changes in global financial system impacting US Treasury's ability to fund issuanceThe shift in commodities being priced in currencies other than the US dollar and ongoing quantitative tightening could decrease the creation of euro dollars, potentially impacting the US Treasury's ability to fund its issuance, as traditional petrodollar recyclers may have less appetite due to increased commodity prices and credit needs.

      The global financial system, often referred to as Bretton Woods 3, is undergoing significant changes due to commodities being priced in currencies other than the US dollar, leading to a potential decrease in the creation of euro dollars. This could impact the US Treasury's ability to fund its issuance as the traditional petrodollar recyclers may not show up at auctions. Additionally, quantitative tightening is ongoing, but the marginal buyer of treasuries may have less appetite due to increased commodity prices and credit needs. The Fed's balance sheet reduction and the slowdown in euro dollar creation could be offset by more private money being generated through the banking system, but this remains to be seen. Overall, these changes could have significant implications for the global financial system and the US Treasury market.

    • Impact of decreased US dollar demand on global financial landscapeDecreased demand for US treasuries could lead to repo deficit, potential diversification by reserve managers, and internationalization of non-USD currencies like the RMB

      The global financial landscape is shifting, and the role of traditional reserve currencies like the US dollar may be changing. The discussion highlighted the potential impact of decreased demand for US treasuries and the possibility of diversification by reserve managers. This could lead to increased selling of balances in the overnight reverse repo facility, potentially causing a repo deficit. The standing repo facility may mitigate this issue, but it could also mean a less international financial system with more domestic funding. The internationalization of currencies like the RMB is a developing trend, but it faces challenges such as rule of law questions and market depth. However, history shows that no currency is born a reserve currency; it becomes one. The current situation, including the war and the resulting conversation, may act as a catalyst for change, and an infrastructure is being built that could lead to rapid advancements in the future. Despite China's closed capital account, it is important to remember that it can still open up over time.

    • China's Debt Securities Market Development and Alternate CurrenciesChina managed excess liquidity by issuing debts to develop debt securities market, unlikely for governments to allow energy-intensive Bitcoin mining, and central bank digital currencies are a separate issue for rethinking reserve assets.

      China's involvement in the World Trading Organization led to the accumulation of surpluses, which changed the way they handled their excess liquidity. Initially, this surplus was held in Chinese banks, but as it grew, the Chinese government issued debts to remove it from their balance sheets, leading to the development of China's debt securities market. On the topic of alternate currencies, Bitcoin's utility lies in being a decentralized currency that is "short the sovereign." However, given China's political structure and potential energy constraints, it's unlikely that governments will allow for the energy-intensive mining of Bitcoin, especially during commodity or energy shortages. The central bank digital currency, on the other hand, is a separate issue concerning the technology used by central banks to distribute their liabilities. The ongoing discussions revolve around rethinking reserve assets, specifically the shift from nominal FX reserves to real commodity reserves.

    • Emergence of a Multipolar Economic WorldThe shift towards a multipolar economic world could lead to a renaissance for China as primary commodity buyers, while the West faces challenges with inflation and relative decline. Resource nationalism, military spending, and stockpiling of commodities are expected outcomes.

      The global economic landscape is shifting towards a multipolar world, as indicated by the ongoing discussions about Bretton Woods 3. This new economic order could lead to a renaissance for the East, particularly China, as they become the primary buyers of commodities. The West, on the other hand, faces challenges in terms of inflation and relative decline. Resource nationalism, military spending, and stockpiling of commodities are expected outcomes of this new economic order. The investment needs for this new world reflect the need for more commodities and capital, and the West may need to focus on increasing consumption and decreasing investment. Conversely, China may need more investment and less consumption. The conversation also highlighted the importance of rethinking supply chains and the role of state and corporate investments in shaping the future economic landscape.

    • Understanding the connection between monetary policy and real-world issuesPaying attention to shipping, commodities, and micro details is crucial for interest rate strategists and STIR traders to grasp the macro picture. Central banks face challenges managing inflation and economic instability, and considering commodity equivalent balance sheet space and government policies can provide valuable insights.

      For those interested in interest rates and the economy, particularly short-term interest rate strategists or STIR traders, it's essential to pay attention to shipping, commodities, and the micro details to understand the macro picture. Zoltan's perspective on the economy provides valuable insights into the connection between nominal monetary factors and real-world issues, such as commodity prices and storage. Central banks, including the Federal Reserve, face challenges in managing inflation and economic instability due to the complexities of today's global economy. The last time the Fed fought inflation was in the late 1970s and early 1980s, when the central bank had more control over the situation. The conversation highlighted the importance of considering the commodity equivalent of balance sheet space and exploring the implications of government policies in this new world. Additionally, Odd Lots was nominated for a Webby award, and listeners were encouraged to vote for them in the business podcast category.

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