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    Triple Play: Marvel's Avengers

    enSeptember 10, 2020

    Podcast Summary

    • Exploring the coexistence of story and loot in Marvel's AvengersTripleClick's team discusses the new Avengers game, its identity crisis, and their excitement to stream and play it for its narrative and loot gameplay

      According to Kirk, Maddie, and Jason from TripleClick, meaningful superhero stories and endless loot grinds can coexist in video games. During their 20th episode, they discussed the new Avengers game and whether it could deliver both. The game, developed by Crystal Dynamics and published by Square Enix, has faced an identity crisis since its announcement due to its mix of narrative and loot-focused gameplay. Last week, they jokingly predicted Nintendo would announce a Mario compilation, and hours later, Nintendo did just that. They also mentioned they would be streaming and playing Marvel's Avengers on their Twitch channel that same night. Despite some confusion about the game's title, they're excited to explore the story and see if it lives up to their expectations.

    • A fresh take on the Avengers universeMarvel's Midnight Suns offers a unique gaming experience with Kamala Khan's story, multiplayer content, and Marvel fandom celebration, despite development challenges and varying opinions.

      Avengers: Marvel's Midnight Suns is a unique gaming experience that offers various elements, including a single-player campaign centered around Kamala Khan's story, multiplayer and cooperative content, and a celebration of Marvel fandom. The game's tone is enthusiastic and less grim than expected, making it an enjoyable experience for fans. However, the game's development seems to have faced challenges, with additional missions added to extend the campaign length. Early impressions are generally positive, but opinions may vary depending on the specific aspects of the game. Overall, Avengers: Marvel's Midnight Suns offers a fresh take on the Avengers universe, with Kamala Khan's character and fandom elements shining brightly.

    • Avengers' Single-Player Campaign and Multiplayer ModeMarvel's Avengers combines a Tomb Raider-like single-player campaign with a simplistic multiplayer mode, featuring unique combat systems for each character, requiring strategy and skill, and allowing for character progression and dynamic gameplay.

      "Marvel's Avengers" presents an intriguing mix of single-player campaign with Tomb Raider-like missions and a multiplayer mode that feels like a simplistic brawler game. Despite the game's identity crisis and some visual clutter awareness issues, the combat system is a saving grace, offering a unique experience for each of the six playable characters, with different pros and cons. The game requires strategy and skill, rather than just button-mashing, and as players progress, they unlock new moves and builds, making the characters more dynamic. While some characters, like Iron Man, may feel slow and difficult to control, others like Thor and Miss Marvel offer a more enjoyable experience. Overall, "Marvel's Avengers" offers a fun and engaging combat system, but its multiplayer mode could use some improvements.

    • Avengers game's combat and storyThe Avengers game delivers exciting melee fights, but repetitive enemies and story discrepancies from the comics may hinder its long-term appeal.

      While the Avengers game offers enjoyable melee combat, particularly with characters like Black Widow and Thor, the lack of enemy variety and repetitive nature of the fights is a significant flaw for some players. The game's story also undergoes changes from the comics, such as the origin of Kamala Khan's powers, which some fans may find interesting or disappointing depending on their perspective. Overall, the Avengers game offers a fun and chaotic combat experience, but its longevity may be hindered by the repetition of enemies and potential story discrepancies from the source material.

    • Exploring deeper themes in Marvel's Avengers gameThe game delivers an enjoyable superhero experience with Kamala Khan but falls short in exploring deeper themes and social commentary present in the comic books, particularly regarding the representation of Inhumans as an oppressed minority. The game focuses more on action and adventure aspects, leaving societal issues unexplored.

      The Marvel's Avengers game, while successful in delivering an enjoyable superhero experience with Kamala Khan as the main character, falls short in exploring the deeper themes and social commentary present in the comic books, particularly regarding the representation of Inhumans as an oppressed minority. The game focuses more on the action and adventure aspects, with the immigration metaphor and societal issues taking a backseat. The Inhumans are mostly used as tools for the villain's motivations, and their oppression is not portrayed as a societal issue but rather an isolated one. Despite this, fans are still excited about the Kamala Khan story, but the campaign leaves them wondering what comes next. The game could have benefited from more exploration of these themes, especially given the current social climate and the potential impact it could have had.

    • Disappointing Narrative Experience in Marvel's AvengersDespite impressive visuals and performances, Marvel's Avengers fails to deliver a satisfying narrative, with disconnected character arcs, incomplete missions, and a shift towards multiplayer.

      "Marvel's Avengers" game, despite having impressive cutscenes, vocal performances, and opening set pieces, falls short in delivering a satisfying narrative experience. The game jumps between different superheroes, making it difficult for players to connect with any single character's arc. Many missions consist of side quests with incomplete narratives, leaving players feeling like they're missing crucial context. Although Kamala Khan is an intriguing character, her narrative arc doesn't compare to that of established franchises like Tomb Raider. The game's pacing also takes a hard turn towards multiplayer missions, which can be underwhelming for those seeking a cohesive storyline. Overall, the game's fragmented nature makes it challenging for players to fully engage with the characters and the story.

    • Experience with Avengers characters variesEnjoy the game more by focusing on Kamala Khan and characters with consistent voice acting

      The Avengers: Quantum realm game successfully mashups various Avengers characters, but the experience can be uneven depending on the player's preference for specific characters. The game's lead character, Kamala Khan, helps to mitigate potential issues arising from preconceived notions of the Avengers due to movies or other media. However, inconsistent voice acting for certain characters, such as Iron Man and Hulk, can be distracting and take players out of the experience. Overall, the game is more enjoyable when focusing on Kamala Khan and other characters where the voice acting aligns well with the player's expectations.

    • Bringing Captain America to Life in the Avengers GameThe latest Avengers game fails to capture the depth and charisma of the Captain America character, resulting in a disjointed narrative and a less memorable experience, due to conflicting design principles and a focus on multiplayer gameplay.

      The latest iteration of the "Avengers" game, despite having talented creators behind it, falls short in bringing the Captain America character to life in a meaningful and engaging way, due to conflicting design principles and a focus on multiplayer gameplay. Chris Evans' portrayal of Captain America in previous films is praised for its charisma and depth, which is missed in the game version. The game's narrative feels disjointed and lacks a clear identity, leading to a less memorable experience. Despite having great scenes and moments, the game's multiplayer focus and simplified puzzles detract from the potential for a more immersive, single-player experience. Overall, the game struggles to balance its ambitions for a dynamic, narrative-heavy game with the requirements of a multiplayer game as a service.

    • Avengers game's single player and multiplayer elements feel disjointedThe Avengers game's single player experience is underdeveloped and frustrating when multiplayer components are required, leading to a confusing and potentially short-lived gaming experience

      The Avengers video game feels disjointed due to its combination of single player and multiplayer elements. The speaker found the single player experience to be underdeveloped and frustrating when multiplayer components were required. The game's story elements and multiplayer mechanics are intertwined in a way that seems unintentional, leading to a confusing experience. The speaker also expressed concern about the game's longevity due to the lack of a clear sense of direction and the satisfaction that comes from playing Destiny or similar games. The speaker is unsure whether they will continue playing the Avengers game, but plans to try out the multiplayer component tonight. Overall, the game's execution seems to have fallen short of the promise of a satisfying single player experience.

    • Marvel's Avengers: Strong Foundation, Endgame ConcernsMarvel's Avengers offers an enjoyable experience with unique character feels, but lacks compelling endgame content and repetitive missions may deter long-term engagement. New content like raids could help keep players engaged, but it's uncertain if it will be enough.

      Marvel's Avengers shows promise as a competent game-as-a-service title, despite some concerns about its endgame content and repetitive missions. The game's main draw is the Marvel IP and the unique feel of each character, making it an appealing choice for fans of the comics or superhero genre. However, the lack of compelling endgame content and grindy missions may deter players from sticking around long-term. The addition of new content, such as raids, may help keep players engaged, but it remains to be seen if it will be enough to sustain interest. Overall, while there are some concerns, the game's strong foundation and enjoyable characters make it a worthwhile investment for Marvel fans.

    • Discussing the challenges and benefits of upgrading graphics cards, including selling old GPUs for valueConsider selling old GPUs to offset the cost of new upgrades and maximize value, but be prepared for the challenges of high demand and cost during new launches.

      Riley and Kirk discuss their experiences with upgrading graphics cards and the importance of considering the value of selling old GPUs to offset the cost. Riley, a podcast host, is currently locked into NVIDIA's ecosystem due to her G-Sync monitor but plans to upgrade to the new RTX 3000 series in September. Kirk, also a podcast host, recently upgraded to an RTX 2080 two years ago and explains his process of upgrading every few years to maximize value. They both agree that the launch of new graphics cards can be a challenging process due to their high demand and cost. Listeners can provide valuable insights and advice on these topics, making podcasts like Troubled Waters and Still Buffering a valuable resource for tech-related queries.

    • Confusing PC graphics upgrades vs console simplicityUpgrading a PC graphics card can be cost-effective in the long run despite the complexity, with constantly changing market prices and potential for resale value.

      Upgrading a PC graphics card can be a confusing and stressful process due to the variety of options and constantly changing market prices. While consoles offer a simpler solution, the resale value of PC components can make it a more cost-effective choice in the long run. The speaker shared their experience of feeling underwhelmed by the RTX 2080 upgrade and the upcoming release of the 3070, which is expected to offer a significant improvement. They also recommended watching Cyberpunk trailers to gauge the potential graphics performance. The speaker then shared an unexpected connection to the topic, sharing their recent discovery and enjoyment of the time loop book "The 7 and a Half Deaths of Evelyn Hardcastle" by Stuart Turton.

    • Exploring Time Loops and Multiple Perspectives in 'The 7 and a Half Deaths of Evelyn Hardcastle'This novel, inspired by video games, offers a captivating journey of a protagonist leaping into different bodies to unravel mysteries, raising thought-provoking ideas about the mind and time loops. Raiding in Destiny 2 requires teamwork, forgiveness, and persistence for a rewarding experience.

      "The 7 and a Half Deaths of Evelyn Hardcastle" by Stuart Turton is a captivating and thought-provoking book that explores the concept of time loops and the mysteries they reveal. The author draws inspiration from video games, specifically Metroidvania, and the book features a protagonist who must navigate different perspectives and personalities as they quantum leap into different bodies. The novel is well-written and raises intriguing ideas about the influence of the mind of the person being inhabited. Meanwhile, Maddie shares her "one more thing," which is her continued dedication to Destiny 2 and the challenges of completing raids with a group. Despite the setbacks, she emphasizes the importance of teamwork and forgiveness in the raiding experience. Overall, both the book and Destiny 2 offer unique and engaging experiences that require persistence and collaboration.

    • The importance of teamwork in completing challenging raids in Destiny 2Teamwork and perseverance are essential for completing challenging raids in Destiny 2. The shared experience and sense of community bring excitement and motivation, even when faced with setbacks and difficulties.

      The experience of completing a challenging raid in Destiny 2 is not just about individual skill, but also about teamwork and perseverance. The speaker shared their own frustrating yet rewarding experience of attempting to beat a raid with their friends, encountering obstacles like jumping puzzles and real-life commitments. Despite not completing the raid that night, they expressed excitement for the next attempt and the sense of community that comes with trying to overcome these challenges together. The speaker also mentioned how the group dynamic evolved over time, allowing for more flexibility and inclusivity. Overall, the discussion highlights the importance of teamwork and the shared experience in gaming, even when faced with setbacks and difficulties.

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