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    We don’t know how AI works…

    enSeptember 01, 2023

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    • Understanding the Mysteries of AI SystemsThe development of AI systems began with the goal of replicating human intelligence, but the inner workings of these systems remain a mystery, raising concerns about transparency and accountability

      Despite the advancements in AI technology and its integration into various aspects of our lives, there remains a lack of understanding about how these systems truly function. This was explored in a two-part series titled "The Black Box" by Noam Hassenfeld from Vox. The quest to build AI systems began with the question of whether intelligence, a uniquely human trait, could be replicated on a computer. Early computing pioneers recognized the potential of this technology to revolutionize everything. Computers were already capable of solving complex math problems in the 1950s, and researchers believed this ability could be scaled up to create more complex programs, such as those capable of playing chess. As computers grew more powerful, these programs became increasingly capable. By the 1990s, IBM had built a chess-playing program, Deep Blue, that could beat human opponents. However, even with these advancements, the inner workings of AI systems remain a mystery to those who design them. This lack of transparency raises concerns as we continue to rely on and invest in AI technology.

    • IBM's Deep Blue: Reflecting Human Knowledge, Not Generating New IdeasDeep Blue, while a chess AI milestone, relied on human-programmed moves and evaluations, lacking the ability to generate new strategies or understand context beyond what was programmed.

      IBM's Deep Blue, while a groundbreaking achievement in chess AI, was not truly generating new ideas or being creative. Instead, it relied heavily on human-programmed moves and evaluations. Deep Blue was given all possible chess moves and board states, and it evaluated each one based on human-defined rules. It was essentially reflecting back humans' knowledge of chess. Although it could evaluate 200 million moves per second, it lacked the ability to understand or generate new strategies beyond what had been programmed. This is why Garry Kasparov, the world champion at the time, found Deep Blue's performance unimpressive. He believed that the world champion's greatest abilities, such as finding new ways in chess, could not be explained or replicated by a computer. Despite Deep Blue's victory in their first match, Kasparov was able to adapt and win the rematch. Deep Blue's limitations raised questions about whether such a calculative approach truly qualified as artificial intelligence. While Deep Blue was a significant step forward, it was just the beginning of the journey towards creating truly intelligent machines.

    • Learning through trial-and-error: AlphaGo's revolutionary approach to AIAlphaGo, an AI developed by Google's DeepMind, revolutionized AI by learning from its own experiences through neural networks and trial-and-error, surpassing human Go players.

      AlphaGo, an AI developed by Google's DeepMind in 2015, revolutionized the field of artificial intelligence by learning and improving on its own, unlike previous systems that relied on being told specific moves in advance. AlphaGo was designed to mimic the human brain's learning process through artificial neural networks, which consist of interconnected artificial neurons that can turn on or off and strengthen or weaken their connections based on learning experiences. Researchers trained AlphaGo by having it play millions of simulated games against itself, adjusting its connections based on the outcomes. This trial-and-error method allowed AlphaGo to learn effective moves without being explicitly taught them, ultimately enabling it to surpass human Go players. However, because AlphaGo learned through its own experiences, it was challenging for researchers to determine which specific features it used to make decisions. This groundbreaking approach paved the way for future advancements in AI and machine learning.

    • AlphaGo's Surprising Move: A Turning Point in AI HistoryAlphaGo's victory over Lee Sedol in 2016 showcased an unexpected, risky move that no human would make, demonstrating AI's ability to outthink us in complex strategic games and marking a shift towards weirder, inscrutable AI forms.

      AlphaGo, an advanced AI developed by DeepMind, a Google-owned company, shocked the world when it defeated the world champion, Lee Sedol, in a five-game Go match in 2016. AlphaGo's victory was particularly significant because it made a move that no human player would ever consider due to its riskiness. This move, on the 37th move of the second game, was a turning point that allowed AlphaGo to take control of the board and ultimately win the match. The victory sent shockwaves through the AI community, as it demonstrated that an AI that scientists couldn't fully explain could still be more powerful than one they could. This marked a significant shift in the development of AI, as weirder and more inscrutable forms of AI became the new norm. This unexpected victory also highlighted the limitations of human understanding and the potential for AI to outthink us in complex strategic games.

    • A new era of artificial intelligence with opaque systems like ChatGPTAI's new opaque systems, like ChatGPT, can generate human-like responses and perform tasks, but their complex, inexplicable workings raise concerns about reliability and accountability, particularly in law and business strategy.

      We are witnessing a new era in artificial intelligence, as demonstrated by models like ChatGPT, which operates through complex systems that are largely inexplicable to their creators. This contrasts with traditional computer programming, where the workings of the code can be understood and predicted. ChatGPT, which uses a trial and error method to learn and improve, can generate human-like responses and even perform tasks like writing business strategies or creating websites. However, due to its opaque nature, it can also produce unexpected results and provide inaccurate information. This raises significant concerns about the reliability and accountability of AI systems, particularly in areas like law and business strategy. As AI continues to evolve, it will be crucial for researchers and developers to find ways to better understand and control these complex systems, while also addressing the ethical and societal implications of their use.

    • Testing GPT 4's Capabilities: Stacking ObjectsGPT 4 surprised researchers with its ability to provide a seemingly original solution to stack objects, but its understanding of the meanings behind the words and basic physics is still debated.

      The capabilities of GPT 4, a large language model developed by Microsoft, continue to raise questions about its level of understanding and intelligence. Researchers at Microsoft tested GPT 4's ability to come up with original solutions by asking it to stack a book, 9 eggs, a laptop, a bottle, and a nail in a stable manner. GPT 4 provided a seemingly original and stable solution, which surprised the researchers. However, some experts argue that this is not enough evidence to claim that GPT 4 truly understands the meanings behind the words it uses or has a basic grasp of physics. Others suggest that focusing on a few impressive examples oversimplifies the issue and that there is a gray area between human intelligence and the capabilities of systems like GPT 4. Regardless, Sam, a researcher involved in the study, is more interested in what GPT 4 can do rather than its internal experience. He finds it remarkable that the model can create business strategies, write code, and solve problems like stacking objects, despite not being designed to do so. The true nature of GPT 4's intelligence remains a topic of debate, with some arguing that it's not human-level intelligence but a significant step forward from previous systems. Ultimately, the discussion highlights the ongoing challenge of defining and measuring artificial intelligence and understanding its implications for humanity.

    • Understanding the unpredictability of advanced AIDespite advancements in AI, its capabilities and future developments remain unpredictable, causing concern over transparency and interpretability. Researchers explore deciphering existing systems and designing new explainable ones, but challenges persist due to complexity and vast calculations involved.

      The advancements in AI, such as GPT 4, are outpacing our ability to fully understand and explain their capabilities. Companies and researchers are struggling to predict what these systems will be able to do next. Some argue that this unpredictability is a temporary issue that will be resolved as our understanding of AI improves, while others suggest it could be a fundamental aspect of these systems. Regardless, the lack of transparency and interpretability in AI is becoming a significant concern as it becomes more powerful and integrated into society. Researchers are exploring two main approaches to address this issue: deciphering existing systems and designing new explainable ones. However, both approaches have encountered significant challenges. The complexity of these models, based on the human brain, and the vast number of calculations involved make explaining them an extremely difficult task. Some argue that accepting unexplainability might be the price we pay for the rapid advancements in AI, but the potential risks and implications of these technologies demand a better understanding.

    • Navigating Technological and Economic ChangesStay informed about technological and economic changes to make strategic decisions, and consider opportunities to buy low and sell high in the real estate market while carefully considering risks and rewards.

      We're living in a time of great technological change, specifically in the realm of artificial intelligence and machine learning. This is a complex and evolving issue, and it's likely to shape the next decade or so as we work to understand it better and navigate its implications. Meanwhile, in the world of investing, it's important to remember that buying low and selling high is a common goal, but it's easier said than done. Currently, high interest rates are causing challenges in the real estate market, leading to falling prices and decreased demand. Despite this, some investors are seeing opportunities to buy at lower prices and expand their portfolios. So, in summary, we're dealing with a rapidly changing technological landscape and a complex economic climate. It's important to stay informed and make strategic decisions based on the latest information. And if you're interested in investing, there may be opportunities to buy low and sell high, but it's crucial to do your research and carefully consider the risks and potential rewards.

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