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    Weight Loss Surgeon Turned PlantPower Crusader

    enSeptember 19, 2013

    Podcast Summary

    • From Overweight to Weight Loss Expert: Dr. Garth Davis' JourneyPersonal experience can be a powerful motivator for change. Dr. Garth Davis transformed his life from an unhealthy, overweight individual to a weight loss expert, inspiring others to take control of their health and make small, consistent changes for a better quality of life.

      The transformative power of personal experience and the importance of living in alignment with one's values. Rich Roll, the host, expressed his gratitude to his listeners for supporting the podcast as it reached its 50th episode. He introduced himself as an ultra distance triathlete, author, public speaker, and advocate for plant-based nutrition. He shared upcoming speaking engagements and encouraged listeners to sign up for his newsletter for exclusive content. The guest for this episode was Dr. Garth Davis, a weight loss surgeon and manager of the Davis Clinic in Houston. Dr. Davis shared his personal journey from being overweight and unhealthy to becoming a weight loss expert. He learned valuable lessons from treating thousands of patients struggling with obesity. Despite his professional expertise, he realized he wasn't living a healthy lifestyle himself. This wake-up call motivated him to make significant changes and inspired him to help others do the same. The conversation between Rich and Dr. Davis highlighted the importance of taking personal responsibility for one's health and well-being, and the power of making small, consistent changes to improve overall quality of life.

    • A Doctor's Transformation to a Plant-Based DietDr. Garth Davis, after studying nutrition deeply, adopted a plant-based diet to resolve his health issues and compete in an Ironman race. He's now writing a book to challenge the low-carb, high-protein diet craze.

      Dr. Garth Davis, a medical doctor, transformed his approach to treating obesity and improving health after studying nutrition deeply, discovering the benefits of a plant-based diet. He implemented this diet into his own life, resolving his health issues and even competing in an Ironman race. He's now passionate about sharing his knowledge and challenging the low-carb, high-protein diet craze, which he believes is misguided. He's writing a book, "The Protein Obsession," to share his perspective. For those interested in transitioning to a more plant-based diet, check out Mindbodygreen's Ultimate Guide to Plant-Based Nutrition, which offers resources, tools, and a supportive community. Additionally, keep an eye out for Rich Roll's upcoming plant-powered merchandise, including t-shirts and a cookbook, available at richroll.com.

    • Empowering listeners to make informed health decisionsThe podcast provides valuable information for personal health and wellness, emphasizing quality products and personal responsibility, featuring Momentous and On for plant-based protein and athletic apparel, and introducing Go Brewing for alcohol-free beverages.

      The podcast empowers listeners to make their own informed decisions about their health and wellness, encouraging personal responsibility. The hosts do not dictate what to do but rather share valuable information to help individuals unlock their best selves. Additionally, the podcast highlights the importance of quality products in various aspects of one's life, from plant-based protein to athletic apparel. The featured brands, Momentous and On, are held in high regard for their industry-leading quality and innovation. Lastly, the podcast promotes a sober lifestyle and introduces Go Brewing, a company that offers alcohol-free versions of popular brews, providing an alternative for those who want to enjoy their favorite beverages without the negative effects of alcohol.

    • Overlooking the importance of nutrition in healthcareDoctors are not taught about nutrition during medical school, focusing instead on treating symptoms with medicines and surgery. The importance of cooking and healthy food in preventing and treating diseases is often overlooked.

      Our healthcare system, specifically medical education, has overlooked the importance of nutrition in preventing and treating diseases. During medical school, doctors are not taught about the preventative role of food, and instead, are focused on treating symptoms with medicines and surgery. The speaker shares his personal experience of this lack of nutrition education during medical school and how he came to realize the importance of cooking and healthy food in promoting health and preventing diseases. He now teaches cooking classes to his patients and emphasizes the ease and affordability of making healthy meals at home. The future of healthcare lies in the understanding and implementation of good nutrition, and the speaker's work is a testament to that. The importance of cooking and healthy food is often overlooked, but it holds the key to preventing and treating many health issues.

    • Focusing on treating diseases caused by unhealthy diets with pills and surgery instead of dietary changesDoctors often prescribe medication instead of encouraging dietary changes, hindering true wellness due to patients' resistance and doctors' time constraints, confusion about healthy diets, and manipulation of research by industry.

      Our current approach to medicine focuses heavily on treating diseases caused by unhealthy diets with pills and surgery, rather than addressing the root cause through dietary changes. Patients often want quick fixes and are resistant to the idea that their lifestyle choices are the problem. Doctors, pressed for time and skeptical of patients' willingness to change, often resort to prescribing medication. The confusion about what constitutes a healthy diet further complicates matters. Additionally, the manipulation of scientific research by industry can add to the confusion. Despite growing interest in preventative medicine and nutrition, the shift towards prioritizing dietary interventions is still largely occurring among outliers. Ultimately, true wellness requires self-reflection and a willingness to make changes, which can be challenging.

    • The importance of unbiased funding in health studiesBiased funding can influence research results, questioning the credibility of studies. Taubes advocates for challenging conventional wisdom and individualized patient care.

      Conducting legitimate and trustworthy health studies requires significant financial resources, making it essential for unbiased funding. However, with an overwhelming amount of information available online, it can be challenging to discern the credibility of studies. One example given was a study in the Journal of American Medicine that argued saturated fat decreases the progression of coronary artery disease, which was later found to be funded by Atkins Nutritionals. This raises concerns about potential biases influencing research results. Gary Taubes, a well-known figure in the health community, is an advocate for challenging conventional wisdom in nutrition and healthcare. He encourages questioning the status quo and delving deeper into the underlying causes of diseases, rather than just treating symptoms. The speaker's personal journey involved recognizing the importance of considering patients as individuals and not just their diseases, as well as dealing with weight gain during residency and trying various diets.

    • A surgeon's passion for addressing obesity through bariatric surgeryThough bariatric surgery effectively reduces weight and improves health, its high demand and limitations, such as potential weight regain, make it a complex solution to the obesity crisis.

      The speaker, a surgeon, became passionate about addressing the obesity crisis in the country through bariatric surgery due to its dramatic results. However, he later realized that the high demand for the procedure, with over 60% of the population qualifying, outweighs the available resources. Additionally, he noticed that some patients regained weight after surgery. The effectiveness of bariatric surgery comes from making the stomach smaller, reducing appetite, and causing hormonal changes, leading to weight loss and improvements in conditions like type 2 diabetes. Despite its successes, the limitations and challenges of the procedure remain.

    • The Complexity of Weight Loss Surgery and the Role of NutritionWeight loss surgery isn't a simple solution, comes with risks, and the focus on revision surgeries and high-protein diets may overlook the importance of nutrition, particularly plant-based diets, in preventing weight gain and maintaining a healthy weight.

      While weight loss surgery can be effective for those with severe obesity and related health issues, it's not a simple solution and comes with risks. Moreover, the focus on revision surgeries and high-protein diets in the field of obesity research may overlook the importance of nutrition, particularly the role of plant-based diets in preventing weight gain and maintaining a healthy weight. The speaker's personal experience with patients revealed a heavy reliance on meat in their diets, which may contribute to weight gain despite adherence to recommended protein intake. The lack of scientific evidence supporting the high-protein recommendation further emphasizes the need for a more holistic approach to obesity treatment that includes nutrition education and plant-based options.

    • Overlooking overall health for small dietary choicesDoctors and individuals alike can overlook the importance of maintaining a balanced diet and healthy lifestyle for optimal health. Personal experiences and motivations can inspire significant improvements.

      People often focus on small aspects of their diet, like a Snickers bar, while overlooking the bigger picture of their overall health. Meanwhile, some individuals experience significant improvements in their eating habits and lifestyle, leading to remarkable health transformations. However, the speaker's personal experience of dealing with high cholesterol, hypertension, and diabetes led him to question his own health choices and feel like a hypocrite as a doctor advising patients to eat better while not doing so himself. This disconnect motivated him to reevaluate his diet and exercise habits.

    • Doctor's personal experience challenges high-protein diet beliefsDiscovering countries with highest longevity rates had diets rich in vegetables led doctor to question high-protein diet advice and find evidence for vegetarian/vegan diets' health benefits

      The doctor's personal experience and newfound research led him to question the daily practice of prescribing a high-protein diet to his patients. Despite being a staunch advocate for Western medicine, he was shocked to discover that countries with the highest longevity rates, like Okinawa and Sardinia, had diets rich in vegetables and minimal processed foods. This discovery led him to investigate further, reading books like "Blue Zones" and studying the health of Seventh-day Adventists in California. The research revealed that vegetarian and vegan diets were associated with lower rates of cancer, heart disease, and longer lifespans. This revelation challenged his previous beliefs and led him to reconsider the dietary advice he gave to his patients.

    • Plant-based diet linked to better health outcomesEating whole, plant-based foods can reduce risk of heart disease, diabetes, and increase longevity, while diets high in meat have opposite effects. Preparing meals with love is essential.

      A plant-based diet, rich in whole grains, legumes, fruits, and vegetables, is associated with better health outcomes, including reduced risk of heart disease, diabetes, and increased longevity. Contrarily, diets high in meat consumption have been linked to these health issues. Even starchy carbs, like yams, can be beneficial when consumed as part of a plant-based diet. The key is to focus on whole, plant-based foods and to prepare them with love. The speaker's personal journey to adopting a plant-based diet involved overcoming initial challenges, such as learning to cook and shop differently, but ultimately led to improved health and a new appreciation for the importance of food made with love.

    • The impact of food beyond nutritionSmall dietary and lifestyle changes can lead to significant health improvements, and it's never too late to start.

      The food we eat and the vibrations it carries can significantly impact our health beyond just nutritional value. This idea, which may seem outside the realm of western medicine, is gaining more acceptance as people begin to question its limitations. The speaker shares his personal experiences of changing his diet, improving his health, and overcoming cravings, emphasizing the importance of giving the body time to adapt to new foods and breaking the cycle of unhealthy cravings. The speaker also shares his own struggles with health issues and how he used various techniques, including aversion therapy, to change his habits and overcome his fears. In essence, the takeaway is that small changes in our diet and lifestyle can lead to big improvements in our health, and it's never too late to start making those changes.

    • Impact of societal norms on individual health perceptionsSocietal norms shape how individuals view their health and weight, with obesity increasingly accepted. Proper nutrition, including fruits, vegetables, and fiber, is crucial for optimal health. Society's focus on vegetarians' nutrition overlooks meat eaters' deficiencies.

      Societal norms and cultural perceptions significantly impact how individuals view their own health and weight. The speaker shares his personal experience of being overweight and how he was perceived, despite working long hours. He also discusses how societal norms have shifted, leading to the acceptance and even preference for obesity. The speaker also emphasizes the importance of proper nutrition and how it can lead to significant health improvements, such as improved energy levels, cholesterol reduction, and GI issue resolution. He encourages the consumption of more fruits, vegetables, and fiber, and emphasizes that these foods are essential for optimal health. The speaker's confidence in this dietary change has grown over the years, fueled by the positive health outcomes he and his patients have experienced. He also highlights the irony of how society is more concerned about vegetarians' nutritional intake than that of meat eaters, despite the latter group often being more vitamin deficient.

    • Transforming health through diet and lifestyleA wholefood, organic diet and healthy lifestyle can lead to improved health and accomplishing seemingly impossible goals. Question limiting beliefs and explore new ways to improve health, including potential benefits of consuming small amounts of bacteria or other organics in food.

      A wholefood, organic diet, coupled with a healthy lifestyle, can lead to improved health and even the accomplishment of seemingly impossible goals. The speaker, who transformed his own life by making these changes, emphasizes the importance of questioning limiting beliefs and exploring new ways to improve one's health. He also shares an interesting perspective on the potential benefits of consuming small amounts of bacteria or other organics in food, as some nutrients, like B12, can come from these sources. Ultimately, the speaker's inspiring journey serves as a reminder that anything is possible with dedication and a commitment to personal growth.

    • The Confusing Focus on ProteinMarketing and industry influence have led to a misleading focus on individual macronutrients, particularly protein, contributing to health issues. Embrace whole foods and avoid excessive protein consumption.

      The shift in dietary recommendations from focusing on nutrient deficiencies to addressing excesses like obesity and heart disease led to a confusing and misleading focus on individual macronutrients, particularly protein. This focus, driven by marketing and industry influence, has contributed to escalating health issues. Dr. Garth Davis's journey from patient to activist and author aims to challenge this narrative by shedding light on the importance of whole foods and the potential harm of excessive protein consumption. He encourages a return to a simpler approach: eating real, mostly plant-based foods.

    • Food guidelines influenced by lobbying groupsLobbying groups shape food guidelines, leading to promotion of certain foods and stigmatization of others, despite scientific evidence. Critically evaluate sources and make informed decisions based on credible science.

      Our food guidelines and preferences are significantly influenced by powerful lobbying groups, particularly those representing the dairy industry. This manipulation leads to the promotion of certain foods, like milk, and the stigmatization of others, such as soy. For instance, despite scientific evidence showing that soy can prevent breast cancer, it has been unfairly labeled as a cancer cause. This misinformation is perpetuated through various channels, including school settings and media, creating a persistent belief that certain foods are essential for health and fitness. Overcoming this misconception requires raising awareness about the political construct of food guidelines and the role of lobbying groups in shaping our diets. It's crucial to critically evaluate the sources of food-related information and make informed decisions based on credible scientific evidence.

    • The influence of food corporations on nutrition adviceFood corporations' involvement in nutrition education can lead to conflicting advice, causing confusion for consumers. Be wary of extreme or biased sources and critically evaluate information.

      The influence of food corporations on the nutrition industry can lead to biased advice given to consumers. This was discussed in a podcast with Andy Bellotti, a nutritionist who advocates for integrity in the field. The American Dietetic Association and other food companies shape the curriculum for nutritionists, leading to conflicting advice about what to eat. The confusion has led many people to turn to the internet for advice, which can often be misinformed or extreme, such as the paleo diet's emphasis on bacon consumption. It's important for individuals to critically evaluate sources of nutrition information and consider the potential biases involved.

    • The role of carbs vs saturated fat in our diets is a contentious issueConsult credible sources and be informed consumers to make healthy diet decisions, as experts continue to debate the role of carbs and saturated fat in our diets.

      The ongoing debate in nutrition circles regarding the role of saturated fat versus carbohydrates in our diets is far from settled. Gary Taubes and others argue that carbs, including fruits, are the real enemy, and that a high protein, low carb diet is the way to go. However, this perspective contradicts the findings of organizations like the Cochrane Group, which have found that grains consumption decreases diabetes, and that low-fat diets, when properly defined, can have better control of coronary disease. The challenge lies in the interpretation of scientific studies and the potential for over adjustment bias, which can skew results. It's crucial for individuals to be informed consumers of nutrition information and to consult credible sources to make informed decisions about their health. The ongoing dialogue between experts in the field is essential to separating fact from fiction and to promoting a healthier population.

    • Cherry-picking data and dismissing well-researched studies can be misleadingBe cautious of biased sources and consider the credibility and expertise of those providing nutritional advice.

      The debate around nutrition and diet can be misleading, with some individuals and organizations cherry-picking data and dismissing well-researched studies based on flawed reasoning. Gary Taubes, for instance, has been criticized for his stance on saturated fat, despite his tendency to selectively use articles and disregard authors' original intentions. The Weston Price Foundation, which promotes a high-fat diet, also disseminates questionable information. Critics often argue that correlation does not equal causation when discussing epidemiologic studies, but strong correlations should not be ignored, especially when multiple studies support the same finding. It's essential to be aware of these biases and consider the credibility and expertise of the sources we rely on for nutritional advice.

    • Recognizing correlations vs. causation in diet and healthLeading health organizations agree that eating more fruits, veggies, and less meat and fat can help prevent diseases like cancer and diabetes.

      While it's important to recognize correlations between diet and health issues, such as diabetes and Big Gulps consumption, causation is not always clear-cut. However, when leading health organizations like the American Institute of Cancer Research, American Heart Association, and American Dietetic Association all agree that eating more fruits and vegetables and less meat and fat can help prevent diseases like cancer and diabetes, it's worth paying attention. The popularity of low-carb diets may be fueled by anti-authoritarian sentiments and misinformation spread online, but the evidence supporting a healthier diet is clear. It's interesting to note that many proponents of high-protein, high-fat diets are often overweight themselves, which can make their arguments seem hypocritical. Despite this, they are often given a platform and can be quite defensive and personal in their attacks on those promoting a healthier diet. Ultimately, it's important to consider the credibility of sources and the evidence they present when making decisions about our health.

    • High-fat diets may lead to chronic inflammation and metabolic acidosis contributing to health issues like heart diseaseHigh-protein, high-fat diets may lead to inflammation and stress in the body, potentially increasing the risk for health issues including heart disease. Consult healthcare professionals for personalized dietary advice.

      While a high-fat diet may not directly cause heart disease due to LDL cholesterol levels, it can lead to chronic inflammation and metabolic acidosis, which over time can contribute to various health issues such as bone disease, inflammation, and even heart disease. A recent study published in JAMA showed that a high-protein diet led to higher levels of chronic inflammation markers (CRP) and urine cortisol, indicating increased stress and inflammation in the body. These findings suggest that while weight loss may be achieved through high-protein, high-fat diets, the long-term health consequences should be carefully considered. It's essential to remember that every individual's body responds differently to various diets, and what works best for one person may not be ideal for another. Therefore, it's crucial to consult with healthcare professionals and nutritionists to determine the most suitable dietary approach for your specific needs.

    • Negative Effects of Ketosis and Chronic AcidosisRelying on a diet that forces the body to produce glucose and maintain ketosis can lead to inflammation, hinder recovery, and negatively impact bone health. Athletes may benefit more from a plant-based diet, and consuming meat can cause inflammation.

      While our bodies require glucose for proper function, relying on a diet that forces the body to produce glucose through gluconeogenesis and maintaining a state of ketosis can have negative effects. Ketosis and chronic acidosis can lead to inflammation, impede recovery, and negatively impact bone health. Athletes, who may be drawn to ketosis for performance enhancement, may find that their performance improves more significantly by switching to a plant-based diet. Additionally, the inflammatory response caused by consuming meat, whether grass-fed or not, can hinder overall health. Despite these findings, the low-carb diet trend continues to gain popularity, and it's essential to challenge misconceptions and promote evidence-based nutrition.

    • Ancient humans likely relied more on plants than meatAncient humans likely consumed a varied diet of plants, not a meat-heavy one as commonly believed, and the fear of lectins in beans is unfounded.

      Humans and dogs have significant anatomical and physiological differences, indicating that humans are more likely herbivores than carnivores. The idea of following a paleo diet, which emphasizes meat consumption, may be misguided as our ancient ancestors likely relied more on plant-based foods due to their availability. The notion that paleo people were gorging on meat is also a misconception, as evidence suggests they consumed a variety of vegetables and fruits as their primary food source. Furthermore, the fear of lectins in beans, a staple food in many healthy diets, is unwarranted as they can be easily neutralized through soaking and cooking. Overall, it's essential to recognize the differences between human and canine anatomy and the likely dietary habits of our ancestors to make informed choices about our own nutrition.

    • The role of iron in aging and diseaseAncient paleo people may have been healthier due to regular blood loss, lowering their iron levels. Lower iron levels may have benefits in aging and disease, but more research is needed.

      The relationship between diet and health is complex and constantly evolving. For instance, the role of iron in aging and disease is a growing area of research, with some evidence suggesting that lower iron levels may be beneficial. Contrary to popular belief, ancient paleo people may have been healthier due to regular blood loss and subsequent iron reduction. Additionally, the EPIC panacea study, one of the most comprehensive diet and health studies, found a correlation between meat consumption and weight gain, particularly chicken. Contrary to popular belief, fruit consumption is tied to lower rates of diabetes, especially grapes, and not the other way around. Meat consumption, on the other hand, creates inflammation and insulin resistance, leading to chronic metabolic acidosis and impaired muscle response to insulin. It's essential to challenge preconceived notions about diet and stay informed about the latest research.

    • Misunderstood Nutrition: Meat and Insulin ProductionDo thorough research, seek trusted experts, focus on lifestyle changes, consider meat industry's environmental impact, and make informed choices for personal health and societal issues.

      Meat consumption leads to an increase in insulin production due to the presence of the amino acid alanine. This is just one example of how misunderstood nutrition can be, with conflicting information online creating confusion that benefits food companies. To cut through the noise, it's essential to do thorough research and seek out trusted experts and resources. Preventative medicine should focus on lifestyle changes, such as diet, rather than relying on diagnostic tests like mammograms. The meat industry's environmental impact is significant, and understanding our bodies as herbivores can lead to positive changes for both personal health and societal issues. For more information, check out resources like nutritionfacts.org, doctorgarth on Facebook, Plant Positive, and Healthy Longevity. Personal responsibility lies in making informed choices about what we put into our bodies and the information we consume.

    • A Doctor's Journey to Write a Book About Protein ObsessionDr. Garth Davis is writing a book, 'The Protein Obsession', about our societal fascination with protein and its potential negative effects on health, with the help of his publisher, Gideon Weil from HarperCollins.

      Dr. Garth Davis is in the process of writing a book, "The Protein Obsession," with the help of his patient and supportive publisher, Gideon Weil from HarperCollins. The central theme of the book is our societal fascination with protein and its potential negative effects on health. Davis expresses his gratitude towards Weil for helping him shape his message and for being more interested in the message itself than just book sales. He's putting in a lot of effort into the research and writing, even though it means taking time off from work and experiencing a financial loss. The book is expected to be completed by the end of the year. Listeners can follow Dr. Davis on Facebook (Doctor Garth), Twitter (@doctorgarthdavis), and visit his website, thedavisclinic.com, for more information. The podcast can be accessed on iTunes and various other podcast platforms.

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