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    What I Saw in These Cities Shocked Me | Peter Boghossian

    enApril 28, 2024
    What challenges did the speakers face at Portland State?
    How has the identitarian left changed traditional political views?
    What is the speaker's stance on current border control policies?
    How do public bathroom conditions reflect societal values?
    What does the speaker suggest for restoring civility in society?

    Podcast Summary

    • Early Critics of Woke Culture Face ResistanceSpeakers discuss the shift in societal norms towards woke culture, their early criticism, and the resistance they faced, expressing disappointment in lack of progress and widespread cowardice.

      The discussion between the speakers highlights the significant shift in societal norms and the challenges they faced in advocating for free speech and challenging the woke culture, even at a left-leaning university like Portland State, years ago. They were early critics of the ideological capture and woke ideologies, but were met with massive protests and resistance. The speakers express disappointment in the lack of progress and the widespread cowardice among people in being forthright with their speech. The identitarian left, which prioritizes issues of race, gender, and sexuality over economics, has replaced the old-school left and is now the defining characteristic of the "woke" movement. This shift towards equity-based policies and decision-making, rooted in Marxist ideologies, has led to a crisis in people being willing to speak openly and honestly.

    • Fear of speaking up in academiaDuring certain periods, academia punished dissenters with investigations and promotions tied to conformity, creating an environment where those in power could weaponize criticisms and silence critics.

      During certain periods in academia, questioning the orthodoxy came with significant consequences. Professors and faculty who dared to speak up were met with investigations, promotions were tied to conformity, and the fear of being labeled as a racist was enough to silence many. This created an environment where those in power had the ability to weaponize simple criticisms and punish dissenters. Despite the negative impact on universities and cities, those in positions of authority often failed to recognize the connection between their policies and the resulting issues, instead choosing to blame external factors or the capitalist system.

    • Mayors prioritizing ideology over city wellbeingSome mayors may prioritize their belief in an unfair society over their cities' needs, leading to chaos and destruction.

      Some leftist mayors in blue cities, despite the chaos and destruction their policies cause, may believe that these actions are compassionate and kind, even if they exacerbate issues like homelessness and urban decay. The speaker suggests that these mayors may prioritize their belief in a systemically unfair society over the wellbeing of their cities and citizens. The speaker also reflects on his experiences with students in the education system, expressing concern that they were not getting the education they deserved due to the institutions' focus on replicating dominant ideologies rather than fostering critical thinking and ethical questioning.

    • Lack of honesty and accountability in institutionsThe absence of transparency and accountability in institutions, including academia, perpetuates societal issues and erodes trust. Critical race theory, border control, and the transgender debate were discussed as examples of this problem, with the transgender issue particularly egregious due to the mutilation of children's bodies.

      Honesty and accountability are crucial for addressing societal issues, yet there seems to be a lack of both in various domains, leading to a crisis of confidence in institutions. The discussion touched upon the academic context, where the push for meritocracy and equity coexists with the absence of transparency and accountability. This issue was exemplified through the discussion of critical race theory, border control, and the transgender debate. The transgender issue was identified as particularly egregious due to the mutilation of children's bodies with manufactured evidence. The lack of accountability and transparency in institutions, as well as the unwillingness to have open conversations about problems, perpetuates the cycle of issues and undermines trust in society.

    • Queering gender identity and societal norms can lead to harmful practicesQueering ideology can result in over-diagnosis and medicalization of gender distress in children, causing unnecessary drugs and surgeries, and is deeply entrenched in corrupt institutions, leading to devastating consequences for individuals, families, and society.

      The concept of "queering" in the context of gender identity and societal norms can lead to harmful practices and institutional corruption, particularly within the mental health and educational systems. This ideology, which encourages challenging established norms, can result in the over-diagnosis and medicalization of gender distress in children, leading to unnecessary drugs and surgeries. The individuals promoting these practices are often deeply entrenched in this ideology, having been trained within corrupt institutions, and are unwilling or unable to consider alternative viewpoints. The consequences of this ideological capture can be devastating for individuals, families, and society as a whole. It is crucial to question the motivations and intentions behind these practices and to advocate for a more thoughtful and nuanced approach to understanding and addressing gender identity issues.

    • The roots of societal division and political corruptionAcademic corruption and lack of critical thinking lead to questionable principles, polarization, and the election of leaders who cannot think critically.

      The current state of affairs in politics and society can be traced back to the corruption and lack of critical thinking in academia and peer review processes. This issue metastasizes throughout society, leading to the institutionalization of questionable principles and the election of leaders who cannot think critically. The speaker expresses frustration with the polarization and division in the country, but acknowledges that the current situation is a reflection of the choices we make as a society. It's important to take accountability for our voting decisions and the systems we create. The speaker also believes that the current political climate is a result of idea laundering in academia and the institutionalization of these principles. The speaker remains hopeful and will continue to fight for their country, but acknowledges the challenges and the need for critical thinking and accountability.

    • Speaker challenges Democratic stance on border controlThe speaker, a former Democrat, disagrees with current Democratic policies on border control and questions their evidence, expressing frustration and seeking a centrist alternative

      Despite having always voted Democrat in the past, the speaker expresses strong disagreement with the current Democratic stance on border control, which he sees as a threat to national sovereignty and public safety. He believes that the evidence supports stricter border control measures and questions the evidence for certain progressive policies. He expresses frustration with the political binary and hopes for a non-Trump, centrist candidate who could potentially win over disillusioned Democrats. The speaker also criticizes the current state of American politics and the lack of viable alternatives to the two major parties. He feels discouraged by the current political landscape and questions what would motivate someone like him to continue voting Democrat.

    • Exploring the Impact of Beliefs on Society and PoliticsThe speaker reflects on the role of religious and ideological beliefs in shaping people's actions and the potential incompatibility with Western democratic society, expressing concern and uncertainty about the upcoming election and their own beliefs.

      The speaker expresses deep concern about the current state of political and societal issues, particularly the role of religious and ideological beliefs in shaping people's actions and the potential incompatibility of certain beliefs with Western democratic society. The speaker also reflects on their own beliefs and past optimism, acknowledging that they may have been overly optimistic about the consequences of reducing the role of religious dogma in society. They express a desire to understand the mindset of those who hold opposing views and are uncertain about their own actions during the upcoming election. The speaker also shares their experiences with encounters that have deepened their concerns about immigration and the potential for societal unrest.

    • Impact of Immigration on Sovereignty and EconomyDespite the potential benefits of a rational, evidence-based immigration policy, ideological labels and fear hinder open discussions. Social media amplifies tribalism and virtue signaling, making it challenging to engage in intellectual discourse on immigration's impact on national sovereignty and economic contributions.

      The conversation touched upon the concerns of one individual regarding the impact of immigration, specifically Islamic immigration, on national sovereignty and economic contributions. The speaker expressed his belief that a rational, evidence-based immigration policy could be beneficial, but the suggestion is met with resistance due to ideological labels and the fear of engaging in intellectual discourse. The conversation also highlighted the role of social media in amplifying tribalism and virtue signaling, making it challenging to have open discussions on sensitive topics. In essence, the conversation underscores the need for non-ideological, evidence-based discussions on immigration and its impact on national sovereignty and economic contributions.

    • Building Bridges Across Ideological DividesTo navigate societal complexities, we must strive for understanding and cooperation, even with those holding differing views.

      We're living in a precarious time where small events could lead to significant global changes, and it's crucial that we start thinking seriously about potential solutions. One proposed solution is to address the root causes of societal issues, such as education, by building new institutions and encouraging dialogue across ideological divides. The speaker suggests that stopping the contamination is only the beginning and that we need to start talking to people with differing views to find common ground. However, the speaker acknowledges that this might be easier said than done, as he has lost friendships over ideological differences. In essence, the key takeaway is that we must strive for understanding and cooperation to navigate the complexities of our current societal landscape.

    • Friendships and familial bonds can be damaged by deep-rooted ideologies and polarizationIdeological differences can lead to damaging friendships and familial bonds, especially during times of heightened polarization. Maintaining relationships requires effort and understanding.

      The deep-rooted ideologies and polarization in society can lead to the fraying and even breaking of friendships and familial bonds. This was exemplified in a personal story shared about a long-time friendship that ended due to political differences. The Aristotelian concept of different levels of friendship was discussed, with the highest level being that of friendship between two virtuous people, where ideological differences do not matter. However, when people view each other as not merely having incorrect information, but as bad people, friendships can be irreparably damaged. This phenomenon was observed to be exacerbated during the COVID-19 pandemic, with the divisive rhetoric surrounding vaccinations and other related issues. It's a reminder that maintaining relationships requires effort and understanding, especially in times of heightened polarization.

    • Friendships tested by ideological differences and social mediaTo deepen friendships, prioritize sincerity, truth, and open communication over social media attacks and public discourse.

      In today's ideologically charged culture, friendships are being tested and lost due to mass delusions and the prevalence of social media. The speaker shares an experience of engaging in heated debates with friends during a gathering, but despite their differences, they were able to reconcile. However, he expresses concern about the increasing trend of not approaching friends with sincerity or truth, especially when disagreements arise. Instead, people are more likely to publicly attack each other on social media, which only worsens the situation. The speaker believes that this behavior is partially due to social media, and that if we want to reclaim and deepen friendships, we must return to the foundational principles of sincerity, truth, and open communication. In essence, we must learn to have conversations with each other before engaging in public discourse.

    • Building bridges through individual connections and communicationEngaging in honest conversations, being open to change, and genuinely listening to others can help bridge societal divides. Personal experiences and introspection also shape our beliefs and values.

      Meaningful change and understanding in today's polarized society may not come from grand cultural interventions or mass delusion correction, but rather through genuine connections and open communication at the individual level. Engaging in honest conversations, being willing to change one's mind, and truly listening to others can serve as a powerful foundation for bridging divides. Moreover, personal experiences and introspection play a significant role in shaping our beliefs and values. For instance, the speaker has changed their stance on foreign interventions and abortion, influenced by their understanding of others' perspectives and their own experiences. However, it's important to remember that moral intuitions are not absolute and require justification, as the contrasting social environments in blue and red cities illustrate.

    • Public Bathrooms as a Reflection of Society's ValuesObserve public bathrooms to understand societal values, some societies prioritize cleanliness and decency, while others neglect them, bridging differences can lead to restoring civility.

      The state of public bathrooms in different societies reflects the values and behavior of the people within those societies. The speaker shares his observations from various places, including San Francisco, Portland, Taiwan, and Hungary, noting significant differences in the condition and usage of public bathrooms. In some places, such as San Francisco and Portland, bathrooms are often closed or vandalized, while in others, like Taiwan and Hungary, they are well-maintained. The speaker also encourages listeners to bridge ideological or political disputes with friends and work towards restoring civility and decency in society. He remains hopeful and believes that the solutions to societal issues are clear, and the friendships formed along the way make the journey worthwhile.

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