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    Why You’re Not Seeing the World Clearly— and How to Fix It | Jessica Nordell

    enSeptember 19, 2022

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    • Exploring the Impact of Unconscious Biases on Our LivesUnderstanding and addressing biases can lead to personal growth, improved relationships, and greater happiness.

      Recognizing and addressing our unconscious biases can lead to personal growth and happiness. In the 10% Happier podcast, Dan Harris interviews Jessica Nordell, an award-winning author and science writer, about her book "The End of Bias." They discuss how biases impact our lives and relationships, and why understanding their origins and learning strategies to reduce them can bring us greater clarity and joy. Harris acknowledges that some listeners may be defensive about the topic, but he encourages an open-minded approach. The conversation covers the physical responses to bias challenges, ineffective strategies for confronting biases, and the role of mindfulness and history in reducing bias. Whole Foods Market is a sponsor of the show, and Dan takes a moment to promote their high-quality Easter brunch offerings. Audible is another sponsor, showcasing their extensive selection of audio books, including thrilling true crime, mystery, and thriller titles.

    • Bias shapes our perceptions and interactionsBias impacts how we perceive and engage with others, influencing various aspects of life including literature and shopping

      Bias, an inevitable part of human interactions, can significantly impact the way we perceive and engage with others. Jessica Nordell's personal experience of pitching the same story under a male alias and getting an immediate response, while facing rejection as a woman, sparked her interest in the topic. Bias isn't just about individuals projecting their biases onto others; it's a two-way interaction that influences how we treat each other and how the other person responds. This dynamic can be observed in various aspects of life, including literature and shopping. For instance, Deepi Kapoor's "Age of Vice" immerses readers into the underworld with its intricate plot and exceptional writing. As for practical matters, Easter shopping can be made more convenient with services like Audible and DoorDash, saving time and energy. Yet, even in these seemingly unrelated domains, bias can manifest and shape our experiences. Understanding its intricacies and recognizing its presence can help foster more inclusive and equitable interactions.

    • The addictive nature of stereotypingRecognizing and challenging stereotypes requires self-reflection, introspection, and effort to break the reward cycle and promote understanding.

      Stereotyping, a normal human activity, can become addictive due to the intermittent reward cycle it creates. Our brains predict and expect certain behaviors from people based on stereotypes, and when these predictions are correct, we experience a feeling of reward. Conversely, when they're wrong, it can be unpleasant or jarring. This cycle can be challenging to break, leading to the perpetuation of stereotypes. As individuals, the first step to tackling our biases is through self-reflection and introspection, which can be challenging but becomes easier over time with practice. It's important to observe our thoughts and habits, hold them loosely, and pause before acting on immediate reactions. This process requires effort and can be wrenching, but it's essential for promoting understanding and reducing the harm caused by stereotypes.

    • Emotional journey of addressing bias and discriminationAccepting mistakes and learning from them are crucial steps towards creating more inclusive organizations.

      The process of reporting on and addressing issues of bias and discrimination involves emotional challenges and growth. The author shared her experience of writing about a company's efforts to improve diversity, receiving negative feedback, and going through the stages of grief to ultimately accept and learn from her mistakes. This experience resonates with the concept of white fragility and the importance of persisting after mistakes to move towards acceptance and positive action. The expert interviewed in the author's book also emphasized the importance of recovering from mistakes and moving forward in the process of creating more inclusive organizations. Overall, the journey towards addressing bias and discrimination requires emotional resilience and a willingness to learn and grow.

    • Understanding White Fragility and its Harmful ImpactWhite fragility is an inability to tolerate racial stress, leading to harmful denial and avoidance. Recognizing our role in perpetuating harm and the interconnected harm to ourselves and others is essential for meaningful change.

      White fragility, as defined by Robin DiAngelo, is an inability to tolerate racial stress. However, there's a deeper level of horror and shame beneath this inability, which stems from the realization that our actions may unintentionally perpetuate harm and that we are beneficiaries of a racist and shameful inheritance. This horror and shame can lead to denial and avoidance, but recognizing the harm we inflict on ourselves as well as others is essential for moving beyond bias and disconnection. White supremacy, as a delusion, harms white people by creating a disconnect from reality and perpetuating a world we cannot fully understand. Understanding the interconnected harm to both ourselves and others is crucial for meaningful change.

    • Interacting through delusion and prejudice hinders authenticity and understandingRecognizing and confronting biases is crucial for authentic interactions and empathy towards others' suffering

      When we interact with each other through a lens of delusion and prejudice, we cannot be authentic with one another. This lack of authenticity leads to a disconnection from understanding ourselves and the world around us. Furthermore, denying the suffering of others and maintaining a sense of comfort and ease for those in privileged positions can lead to a hardening of the heart and dehumanization. This concept was discussed in relation to police officers and their experiences on the job. It's important to recognize and confront our biases to avoid this negative impact on our own humanity. Additionally, discovering and utilizing resources like Quince and GEDIFY shoes can bring comfort and improvement to our daily lives.

    • Recognizing and Addressing Biases: A Personal JourneyExamining and challenging our biases, no matter how deeply ingrained, is crucial for promoting inclusive environments and creating life-affirming experiences for all.

      Everyone, regardless of their perceived position or bias awareness, can benefit from examining and challenging their own biases. The speaker shared her personal journey of recognizing and addressing her own sexism, which she discovered was deeply ingrained due to the long history of patriarchy. This process involved questioning the origins of these biases and observing their manifestations in her own thoughts and actions. The speaker also highlighted the importance of being open to feedback and taking action when presented with opportunities to create more inclusive environments. Ultimately, this ongoing process of self-reflection and growth is essential for promoting life-giving and life-affirming experiences for all. As for the topic of G-to-fi shoes, the speaker encouraged readers to check out the customer reviews and try them out for themselves to experience the pain relief and comfort. She also shared a discount code for first-time buyers. However, she emphasized that the main focus of the conversation was the importance of recognizing and addressing biases, particularly with regard to sexism.

    • Unconscious biases and lack of diversity in networks hinder progress towards inclusive workplacesMen need to reflect on their role in perpetuating gender bias and create safe spaces for honest conversations to bring about meaningful change in workplaces

      Unconscious biases and the lack of diversity in networks can hinder progress towards creating inclusive workplaces. The speaker shares an embarrassing story about how he and his co-founders were criticized for having a predominantly male team, which triggered ancient feelings of inadequacy and defensiveness. Despite his internal advocacy for diversity, he acknowledges that he hadn't done enough to bring about meaningful change. He attributes this to the pressing demands of running a startup and the lack of diversity in their network. The speaker emphasizes the importance of self-reflection and learning for men to understand their role in perpetuating gender bias and to create workplaces that are more hospitable to women. He also highlights the need for safe spaces for honest conversations about these patterns.

    • Understanding the impact of cultural biasesAwareness of discrimination, both externally and internally, is crucial in combating bias. Training programs can increase awareness, motivation, and provide strategies to challenge assumptions and change behavior.

      Our deeply ingrained beliefs and biases, shaped by cultural narratives, can significantly impact our perception and behavior towards others. Contrary to believing that we are objective and unaffected, research shows that this mindset can even strengthen our biases. Instead, becoming aware of discrimination, both externally and internally, is a crucial first step in combating bias. This awareness can be boosted through training programs like the one developed by Patricia Devine at the University of Wisconsin. These programs increase awareness and motivation to change, and provide strategies such as looking for alternative explanations when making assumptions. While the process is not automatic or simple, research suggests that these interventions can lead to long-term behavior change.

    • Reducing Biases: A Holistic ApproachPracticing mindfulness, meditation, building relationships, studying history, and implementing strategies can help reduce biases and promote inclusive behavior.

      Developing awareness, motivation, and implementing strategies, along with practicing mindfulness and meditation, can help erode biases within individuals and promote more inclusive behavior in the real world. The science behind the effectiveness of these methods is still evolving, but there is promising evidence that they can improve emotional regulation, reduce stress, and create more altruistic responses towards others. Additionally, building relationships with people from diverse backgrounds and studying history can also contribute to reducing biases. Organizations can also play a role by implementing training programs and fostering a culture of inclusivity. Overall, these approaches offer a holistic and meaningful way to tackle bias and promote greater understanding and respect among people from different groups.

    • Leverage Indeed for hiring and BetterHelp for personal growthUse Indeed for efficient hiring with a large audience and personal growth through BetterHelp's therapy services

      When it comes to hiring, Indeed is a valuable resource to help you find quality candidates efficiently. With over 350 million monthly visitors and a matching engine that learns from your preferences, Indeed can help you find the best fit for your team. Additionally, investing in therapy can help you prioritize what matters most in your life and make better use of your time. Regarding reducing biases, building relationships with people from different social identities is important, but it can be challenging. Being open to opportunities and aware of your tendency towards homophily can help you seek out more plurality and inclusivity in your choices. Overall, using Indeed for hiring and BetterHelp for personal growth are effective ways to improve your professional and personal life.

    • Connecting Across Differences for Reduced PrejudiceConnecting through cooperative work under institutional authority can decrease prejudice and increase understanding, while learning about history can help combat bias by providing insight into its origins

      Intentional connections across differences can lead to decreased prejudice and increased understanding. This can be achieved through cooperative work towards a common goal under the auspices of an institutional authority. Studies have shown that this approach can lead to lasting changes in behavior and attitudes. Additionally, learning about history can be a powerful tool in combating bias by helping individuals connect present-day issues to their historical roots. Understanding the past can provide insight into the origins of prejudice and allow individuals to hold biases more lightly.

    • Our biases are not set in stoneUnderstanding biases as cultural inventions allows us to reduce self-blame and approach thoughts objectively. Practices and policies can help reduce individual and organizational biases.

      Our biases are not inherent or preordained, but rather cultural inventions that we have the power to change. Understanding this cultural contingency can help us let go of self-blame and shame, allowing us to approach our thoughts more objectively. Practices like meditation, love and kindness meditation, and bias training can help individuals reduce their biases. For organizations, identifying where bias shows up and examining policies and practices is a crucial first step in addressing it. Remember, we have the capacity to choose another path and make a positive impact on ourselves and others.

    • Understanding and combating biases in the workplaceOrganizations should examine their motivations for pursuing an inclusive workplace, believe that all perspectives are valuable, and implement structured, transparent decision-making processes to decrease the influence of bias.

      Organizations must examine their decision-making processes to understand where biases, such as homophily, may be influencing hiring, promotions, and interpersonal interactions. To combat this, implementing structured, transparent criteria for decision-making can help decrease the influence of bias. However, it's essential for organizations to consider their fundamental motivations for pursuing an inclusive workplace. According to a study by Robin Ealy and David Thomas, teams that believe diversity is essential for the organization's functioning and that all perspectives are valuable are more likely to thrive with diversity. This perspective views diversity as a crucial resource for the organization's future. Therefore, organizations should ask themselves why they value an inclusive workplace and believe that all perspectives are essential. This fundamental motivation is crucial for creating a culture where disagreements can be resolved, conflicts can be learned from, and the benefits of diversity can be fully realized.

    • The importance of psychological safety for teamsPsychological safety fosters comfort for team members to learn from each other, enhancing problem-solving and creativity

      Psychological safety is essential for teams to maximize the benefits of diversity and improve performance. Psychological safety refers to the feeling within a team that everyone feels comfortable speaking up and learning from one another. Research shows that when psychological safety exists, diversity becomes a valuable resource, leading to better problem-solving and creativity. Dan Coyle, the author of "The Culture Code," spent over a decade researching and writing about this topic, emphasizing its importance in creating successful and inclusive teams. By fostering psychological safety, individuals can feel safe enough to learn from each other, ultimately leading to better performance. This concept was an eye-opener for the speaker, who has struggled to create such an environment in the past. Coyle's book is a monumental achievement, and it's a must-read for anyone looking to build stronger, more effective teams.

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    Why You Should Be Devotional, Not Emotional — And How Insistence Trumps Resistance

    Why You Should Be Devotional, Not Emotional — And How Insistence Trumps Resistance
    Julie Piatt joins me for another mid-week installment of the podcast — a twist on my normal format where we go deep on a specific topic. This is a conversation about how to best bridge the emotional landmines of our expanding cultural divide. It's about how to be insistent rather than resistant. It's about the power of devotion over emotion. And it's about inner strength and the importance of cultivating your inner Jedi warrior. I hope you enjoy the offering. #StayJedi! Peace + Plants, Rich