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    mike seidle

    Explore "mike seidle" with insightful episodes like "Episode 12: Advertising with Indeed", "Episode 11: Hiring for Attitude", "Episode 10: Reflecting on Values-Alignment", "Episode 4: Ton Dobbe on Creating and Growing a Successful SaaS Company" and "Episode 2: Rosey on What the C Suite Needs to Know about Recruiting in 2022" from podcasts like ""Pivot2First", "Pivot2First", "Pivot2First", "Pivot2First" and "Pivot2First"" and more!

    Episodes (7)

    Episode 12: Advertising with Indeed

    Episode 12: Advertising with Indeed
    Is there a difference between a job description and a job ad? Job descriptions are not job ads and job ads are not job descriptions. Descriptions are straightforward. They show the functions of the job, requirements and what the "perfect" candidate looks like. However, it doesn't do anything to attract candidates. On the other hand, a job ad sells candidates. In a way, you have to have a marketing mentality in recruiting. In this hypercompetitive, candidate-market, job ads are more important than ever. If your ad fails to sell the candidate on the opportunity, get them to click it and apply, it doesn't matter where you place the ad or how much money you spend, you’ll lose the vast majority of great candidates. Job ads have 2 audiences: The job seeker (we're trying to get them to click on the job post and apply) and the job board search engine (we want the search engine to index the ad and show it to as many job applicants as possible). How do I know how much I should spend on Indeed? Start from the end; keep the goal in mind. Too many recruiters think they have a gut feeling about what a budget should be. Take a look at your recruiting funnel and analyze it, from hire to applies. Hires needed → Qualified Candidates to Interview → Applies → Cost per Apply How many hires do you want to make? Think about how many people you need to interview to make those hires. How many people should apply to get the number of qualified candidates you need to interview? Finally, Indeed doesn't sell you applies, they sell you clicks. How many clicks do you need to get a certain number of people to apply? How do you find out what you are spending on indeed today? Get in touch with Indeed, whoever is your account manager, and see who is spending what across all your accounts. Go over the past 3-6 months: see how much you’ve spent and how many candidates you’ve received. How do I get control of managers posting jobs without going through the company account? The problem with posting jobs on your own, is the lack of accountability for budgets and candidates. We've seen clients where different locations use separate credit cards and accounts. It's easy to lose track of how many candidates they’re receiving and the amount of money they're spending. Having a recruiting agency working with Indeed on behalf of clients allows the client to gain an inside scoop on what the going bid price is, what the competitive bids are, make accurate spending budget calculations instead of going by what is comfortable, which is usually either way too low or too high. This insight allows clients to be realistic about the real cost of advertising on a job board. What do people not understand about Indeed? CPA vs CPC. PCA or cost per apply, and CPC, cost per click. Indeed only lets you bid on clicks but the actual apply number shows how effective your job ads are. Ads are bid on a CPC basis, but the CPA is what you, as a recruiter, should worry about because it will tell you how effective your budget is. Sponsored ads - show higher on the feed. More budget allows for higher bids. If you’re bidding above $200-$300 then you simply don’t have a job market. Indeed Myths Organic ads… where do they work? Organic is free traffic, so always make sure you have organic going. Don’t duplicate jobs or you will lose organic traffic; there can only be one source of truth on Indeed, but they will always take your money for sponsored ads. Refreshing jobs… myth or not? Don’t do that if you’re sponsoring positions. It takes time for jobs to find their CPC bid and budgets to work themselves out. If you refresh jobs, you’re losing data that the job has been working to build up. Leave sponsored jobs alone but refresh organic jobs about once a month. If you refresh too often, Indeed's quality team will flag those jobs and they might not get as much traffic. Job Salaries “If I don't put a salary on a job, the candidate won't have expectations and it'll be easier on recruiting.” The truth is that Indeed has an incentive to put a salary because it increases the click-through rate. If you don't provide a salary, they'll provide an estimate since job posts with salaries get 22-28% more clicks. There’ll always be employers that pay more and those that pay less than the competition, you can always use a pay range even though it might be skewed to one end or the other. Reverse-Searching Jobs Every instance you look at your own positions, Indeed believes you’re job seekers thinking about applying for the job. Since you’re constantly visiting the job post but not applying to it, Indeed may assume it’s a bad job and work to not show it as often in the future. Pro-Tip: If you want to look at the jobs for a company, instead of using the normal search bar, go to Company Reviews at the top, look for your company, and go to your company page. There you can take a look at a full list of your job openings and see which ones are getting organic visibility. You can also look for jobs in an incognito tab and type what the candidate traffic is like in a certain city or what job titles competitors are using. Indeed (Native) Apply vs ATS Career Apply Native apply will get a candidate into your funnel fastest. Job seekers don’t have to create separate accounts for each company they want to apply to, as they would if they applied from a company’s career website. You, as the employer, have every incentive to use Indeed Native Apply because you’ll get more people. You can expect to get about 23% more candidates if you use native apply. Another consideration is that 70-72% of applications are completed on mobile phones. Most ATS career sites are not known for being mobile-friendly and that can discourage a lot of people from completing an application. A better tactic is to use Native Apply to get them in the door, screen them and then invite them to complete the ATS application. Job Post Content, What really matters in my job posts? Keywords always help. If you’re with an agency, ask for a market report for your jobs and that will include a keyword report with the most search terms. One trick is to add job titles from jobs that people could transition from easily into the job body. Change up your job titles to use what other competitors are using. For example, we changed one job from “Electrical Instrument Assembler” to “Electrical Manufacturing Technician.” Keep descriptions short and make sure the first paragraph is clear. A Job Description is NOT a job ad. Salaries in the ad… do it or not? YES Time to Hire The company’s timing to make a hire is not the same as a candidate’s timing. Whereas a candidate might be looking to get a job within a week or a month, according to a new Talroo report, the average time to fill an entry level position is around 44 days. Candidates, however, are not waiting 44 days to get hired. The job market will continue to be hyper-competitive and 44 days to hire is not sustainable. While the average cost per hire is $670, that doesn’t seem to account for the opportunity cost of being short-staffed and missing orders, job advertising, or staff-hours spent interviewing. On the other hand, 90% of candidates take the first job they are offered. How do you win in recruiting? You learn to go fast, reduce friction and streamline the hiring funnel so you can pick first. About Dominic Favorite Business book: Stephen Covey’s 7 Habits of Highly Effective People Favorite Fiction book: John Steinbeck's East of Eden Favorite Movie: Lord of the Rings Trilogy Final Thoughts: Good recruiting is relational, not transactional; it's a conversation. Special Guest: Dominic Antonio.

    Episode 11: Hiring for Attitude

    Episode 11: Hiring for Attitude
    Athin’s Process with service-based businesses: Ramping up service-based businesses is relatively quick, but you must ensure you provide an excellent service. Athin helps business entrepreneurs manage whether they need to adapt their model to be more sustainable (e.g., recurrent revenue vs. one-off jobs or changing their marketing and sales strategies). Differentiating your business and your personal brand from competitors “People buy from People” and how you position yourself and your brand affects prospective clients’ decision to do business with you. Someone will buy based on trust and connection if there are a few options with similar offerings. It’s very compelling to understand and utilize these methods when running your business. Touchpoints: We get distracted very easily. Gone are the days when you could cold-mail people or just ask them to buy from you. It takes more for people to trust a business and several touchpoints before they’ll buy from you. The importance of Mindset It’s what’s between your ears that will determine your success. People sometimes have beliefs that are holding them back. Understanding yet questioning those beliefs can unlock your ability to succeed. A great explanation of this is by Robert Kiyosaki in his book “Rich Dad, Poor Dad.” In it, Kiyosaki speaks of how many of our parents taught us that money is the root of all evil; however, the flip side argues that not having money creates a lack of freedom. Putting a proverbial mirror on yourself to uncover limiting beliefs and updating your actions takes effort and happens over time. It’s easier for someone from the outside (a mentor or coach) to help uncover and help change business direction. This shift in beliefs changed Athin’s life exponentially. A new type of hiring challenge In the US, people are slowing growth. It’s just hard to hire right now. What are the biggest challenges in Australia? Australia is a country of mostly immigrants, and many people come from overseas, especially for tech. Skills shortage, tech or otherwise, makes it hard to find good people. Great Resignation: employees are rethinking what is essential for them. Remote work vs. office vs. hybrid is an example. Clear work options will make it easier for employers to retain and attract new employees. Culture: Being clear on business purpose, mission, and values. Hiring For Attitude To fill openings, you might have to rethink what makes someone qualified. You can’t wait 60 days to make a hire. Employers must quickly decide if someone is a good fit for the role and the team culture. What do people need to change the most about hiring? Do you have to have that person as an employee? Some roles might be well suited for people who are contractors if it’s challenging to find people? Being flexible in this regard can go a long way. What are you actually offering to people? There are a lot of opportunities out there. How do I make it more enticing for them? Work arrangements and benefits, why would I join my business versus another company. The biggest takeaway for recruiting: Hiring should be based on values, attitudes, and behaviors. It’s unlikely that you’ll get someone with all the skills you’re looking for, especially with the skills shortage we have right now. You can train someone on the skills they are missing, but the values, mindset, attitudes, and behaviors are usually deeply imprinted into somebody. While it’s possible, using coaching and other methods to change attitudes and mindsets can take a long time. Know the things that should be required and, know the things that can be taught, be realistic about it. What are the most important questions to ask? With language awareness, prospective employees are likely to touch on their values and attitudes, allowing employers to learn about their motivations. Learning what people have gone through in their lives. Learning about their grit, discipline, and the challenges they’ve overcome. What did they do growing up? Playing an instrument, a sport, or doing martial arts shows that someone has discipline and commitment. About Athin Favorite book: Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill (Fundamentals of business mindset, being curious and delving deeper to set yourself up for success). Favorite movies: Jim Carrey’s Ace Ventura and Eddie Murphy’s Beverly Hills Cop series. (Having a good laugh and being different, being yourself; it’s a key lesson). Final thoughts: Big lesson in business and in life: be yourself; it doesn’t work if you try to be someone else. Whatever you’re doing (business or otherwise, always have a mindset for growth. If we’re not growing we’re dying. Put yourself in uncomfortable situations, and learn new things. Think whether getting a coach and mentor to learn to do things better would be beneficial. Time is the only resource we really have and learning from someone can cut down on the time needed to succeed. Special Guest: Athin Cassiotis.

    Episode 10: Reflecting on Values-Alignment

    Episode 10: Reflecting on Values-Alignment
    What is the Neuro Change Method? Why do things change in our brain? Mindsets, belief, subconscious and more are all woven into the framework of neuroplasticity. It helps us understand how our brain changes. Brand and culture specialist. Science behind what you need to do and how to get your brain to work together with itself. What are the challenges people are facing during Covid? People really reflected on what values they really believed in and if they still held true for themselves. People know fairly fast what matters and what doesn’t and are able to cut through the “crap” much more quickly. Businesses realize they are not who they used to be. Working from Home vs Office? People are wanting to work from home more. It’s a hard change to navigate to come back to the office. Businesses are wondering how to create a connection between remote workers. People will get their jobs done when you trust them to do it. See the Business as a person? Lindsay believes in seeing the business as a person too. It comes from the definition of a corporation. In marketing and branding, if a company’s brand is off, then the mental wellness is also off. Seeing it as a person helps with brand because you realize there is a reputation and relationship it has with other companies, other people. A lot of what people say about companies isn’t always grounded in reality. Outcoming generations can feel that their identity is tied to the business, whereas incoming generations feel that they are the ones who determine the business identity separately from their personal identity. What parts of business to see as a person? First and foremost, ask the people. Ask them how they feel, and what they think. Sit down with each member of the team and ask them what they think: those conversations will tell you where to improve. Remember that you hire people to be better than you are at doing their job. Trust your people. How to get trust back? Fall on your sword. Own up. Hold yourself accountable. A leader owns up to his mistakes. Is my ego getting in the way of us achieving something? How to bring about change when people aren’t in alignmnet? This is very situational based. Always bring in an HR professional or a lawyer. First ask yourself if you, the leader, are doing the same things that you want your employees to do. Also ask them how they understand what the values are that they need to follow. If you’ve given them the opportunity then you need to Favorite business book: Necessary Endings (Dr. Henry Cloud), Traction (Gino Wickman). Favorite movie: the first Jurassic Park Parting thoughts: Take some time to stop and reflect on whether our daily actions reflect our values. If they do, “cheers!” But if we notice our actions are not aligned with our values, let’s get curious and dig in on how do we get there and what our values actually are. Special Guest: Lindsay Harle-Kadatz.

    Episode 4: Ton Dobbe on Creating and Growing a Successful SaaS Company

    Episode 4: Ton Dobbe on Creating and Growing a Successful SaaS Company
    In addition to podcast hosting, Ton Dobbe is the author of The Remarkable Effect (https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-remarkable-effect-ton-dobbe/1136260321) and a SaaS Strategy consultant. Mike appeared on Ton’s podcast Tech Entrepreneur on a Mission (https://shows.acast.com/valueinspiration/episodes/the-difference-it-makes-when-you-start-creating-solutions-th) Season 4, Ep. 163 published 4/26/2021. This time around, Mike hosts Ton. For Ton, starting his podcast goes hand in hand with establishing his own consultancy. He wanted to learn how to build a remarkable software business from successful entrepreneurs. His desire to learn from the best soon became a flow and after 60 -70 episodes someone encouraged him to write a book discussing and distilling all the wisdom enshrined in the podcast. In this episode, Mike and Ton talk about: * What do entrepreneurs need to do to be one of those companies everyone keeps talking about? It’s all about assessing where you stand today and having a vision to guide your and your team’s actions. How important is talent to grow a successful SaaS company? People and cultural fit a are 🗝 part of the process. Different people are needed at different stages. SaaS entrepreneurs have a lot on their plate and sometimes they don’t have a full picture, what are they getting wrong? Everybody makes bad hires, but how you deal with those issues makes all the difference. Also, not getting stuck in ideas and other types of silos can give companies a leg up. When a company isn’t in an upshot, how do companies assess where they stand and figure out how to get on a growth path? According to some statistics, 9 out of 10 startups fail and 75% of scaleups fail. These figures make it imperative for companies to find the right market fit and positioning to sustain growth. Finding the right talent for the right role at the right time, having a clear vision with buy-in from everyone involved, as well as adding value for your customers – solving their needs and problems – can lead a struggling or plateaued company to sustained success.

    Episode 2: Rosey on What the C Suite Needs to Know about Recruiting in 2022

    Episode 2: Rosey on What the C Suite Needs to Know about Recruiting in 2022
    Pivot to First explores topics and ideas with the goal of turning hiring into a competitive advantage. In this episode, Mike speaks with Rosey Nathan. In addition to being a podcaster extraordinaire based out of New Zealand, she is a Recruitment Partner with Customise Talent Group. You can also find her work as Career & Whole Human Mentor for Rosey on Recruitment and Career. She also has a varied background in Sales, Management, and recruiting in SaaS, FinTech, and other industries. In this edition we explore: What makes a happy workforce? What benefits does it bring to a company? What is Employee Engagement and how to explain it in 3 words? What recruiting hurdles are employers facing in the current market? What are some reasons why candidates’ counteroffers have increased up to 40%? How can candidates avoid pitfalls when looking for a new job. Tips for happy recruiting in 2022 How can employers fix their candidate flow problem via speed of engagement? Rosey’s reading, movie, and TV recommendations. Rosey Nathan on the web https://linktr.ee/roseyhercareer (https://linktr.ee/roseyhercareer)

    Episode 116: How Combining Rev Ops and Key Metrics in an Industry Led a Company to Pivot toward Exponential Growth

    Episode 116: How Combining Rev Ops and Key Metrics in an Industry Led a Company to Pivot toward Exponential Growth
    In this episode, Sean sits down with Mike Seidle, CTO and cofounder of PivotCX. They dive into how Mike co-founded PivotCX (https://pivotcx.io)(originally WorkHere). They go deeper into his experience with pivoting a company towards clients' needs and finding success after Covid. Mike explains how the company focused in on recruiting key metrics. Mike shares insights on how PivotCX uses revenue operations (rev ops) methodology to deliver the key metrics and overall scalability for their clients. Mike's laid focused yet passionate tone shows how much his loves helping the company, clients, and partners succeed. He even gives some insight on messaging platforms and the progression of sales to revenue operations over the last 20 years. More About Mike. https://www.linkedin.com/in/indymike/

    Episode 19: What are the Two Rules of Marketing and How to Apply to Your Startup

    Episode 19: What are the Two Rules of Marketing and How to Apply to Your Startup
    In this episode, Sean sits down with Mike Seidle, co-founder and COO of WorkHere (https://workhere.com/). They dive into why to stick with the two rules in marketing: Do something. Then do it better next time. Mike goes deeper how WorkHere started and the marketing lessons learned from running a startup. They talk about how customer experience is the backbone to any startup. More About Mike. https://www.linkedin.com/in/indymike/