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    30: Anthony Joshua: Responding to failure, Saudi Arabia, and Tyson Fury

    enAugust 06, 2023

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    • Boxing Champion Anthony Joshua Discusses Expanding His Horizons Beyond BoxingAnthony Joshua, a boxing champion, values personal growth beyond sports and engages in political discussions to broaden his perspective.

      Anthony Joshua, a 2-time unified world heavyweight champion and Olympic gold medalist in boxing, values expanding his horizons beyond the sport. He chose to speak with Rory Stewart and Alastair Campbell of "The Rest is Politics" podcast before his upcoming fight against Dillian Whyte. By engaging in political discussions, Joshua aims to broaden his perspective and grow as a person, not just as a boxer. His unexpected loss to Andy Ruiz Jr. taught him the importance of staying open-minded and adaptable in the face of adversity. This mindset has led him to express an interest in political themes and issues, making him an intriguing and unique interview subject.

    • Building a strong team and learning business managementJake Paul's success in boxing is attributed to his ability to build a strong team and learn the business side of things early on, despite facing challenges in adapting to new environments and learning various aspects of boxing and business management.

      In the context of a boxer's life, the athlete is the leader, and the coach acts as a guide and mentor. Building a strong team is crucial, especially when transitioning from amateur to professional boxing. This involves learning about various aspects of business management, such as accounting, contracts, and legal matters. Growing up in Africa for a period of time helped Jake Paul shape his perspective and provided him with valuable life experiences. He learned to adapt to new environments and faced challenges that contributed to his personal growth. The tattoo on his right shoulder, which he got at the age of 15, symbolizes wisdom and serves as a reminder of his journey. The most challenging part of Paul's boxing career was learning the business side of things early on, but he managed to build a strong team and expand his knowledge over time.

    • Boxing as a transformative forceSeeking out activities or beliefs that resonate deeply with us can provide a sense of belonging, help us overcome challenges, and lead to personal growth and positive change.

      Finding meaning and purpose in personal experiences, whether through knowledge and wisdom or cultural connections, can significantly impact one's life trajectory. For the speaker, boxing served as a transformative force that helped him stay focused and avoid negative influences, ultimately leading him to success and a sense of fulfillment. His experiences highlight the importance of seeking out activities or beliefs that resonate deeply with us, as they can provide a sense of belonging and help us overcome challenges. Additionally, the speaker's story underscores the potential for personal growth and positive change, even when faced with adversity or difficult circumstances.

    • Lessons from losses and strugglesNegative experiences can teach valuable lessons and fuel determination for improvement. Self-reflection and staying competitive with oneself are essential for overcoming challenges.

      Experiences, even the negative ones, can provide valuable lessons and shape us for the better. The speaker, a boxer, shares how his struggles outside the ring, including dealing with addiction and financial instability, prepared him for the business side of boxing. He also reflects on his defeats in the ring and how they didn't define him but instead fueled his determination to improve and continue competing. The speaker emphasizes the importance of self-reflection and staying competitive with oneself to overcome challenges and keep moving forward. Additionally, he acknowledges the historical significance of his losses and how they contribute to his legacy.

    • The Power of a Winning MindsetBelieving in never thinking about losing and continuously learning from successful athletes are essential for maintaining a winning mindset in sports and life.

      Having a winning mindset, like Floyd Mayweather's, is crucial for success in sports and life. Mayweather's belief in never thinking about losing is a powerful mental tool that has contributed to his impressive record. Rory McIlroy, despite his loss to Ruiz, emphasizes the importance of maintaining a winner's mindset, even in the face of defeat. Additionally, respecting and learning from successful athletes, regardless of their backgrounds, can provide valuable insights and experiences. Rory's training with Klitschko in Ukraine showcased the importance of tough training environments and the value of learning from experienced champions. Overall, the power of a winning mindset and the importance of continuous learning are key takeaways from this discussion.

    • The Importance of Amateur Experience in BoxingAnthony Joshua stresses the significance of gaining extensive amateur experience for a boxer's development, as countries like Ukraine prioritize it, allowing boxers to learn various styles and techniques before turning professional. He also emphasizes the importance of making informed decisions, whether in boxing or politics.

      Gaining experience in the amateur system is crucial for a boxer's development. Anthony Joshua shared his own journey, mentioning how he turned professional after just three years, while opponents like Usyk had over a decade of amateur experience. He believes that countries like Ukraine prioritize their boxers' amateur careers, allowing them to learn various styles and techniques before turning professional. Joshua also touched upon politics, expressing his view that it's about making the right decisions for a country's future. Regarding his own wealth, he acknowledged the importance of paying taxes and encouraged his son to learn accounting. In summary, Joshua emphasized the significance of experience, especially in the amateur stage, and the importance of making informed decisions, whether in boxing or politics.

    • Using wealth for goodWealth is more than just a personal tool, it's a means to help others and make a positive impact. Invest, generate income, and give back to create equality of opportunity and make a difference.

      Money is not just a personal tool for wealth accumulation, but also a means to help others and make a positive impact. The speaker, AJ, views his wealth as a resource to improve his own life and the lives of others. He sees it as a responsibility to use his resources to create equality of opportunity and help people climb the social ladder. AJ's approach to wealth is rooted in a belief in social responsibility and a desire to make a difference. He emphasizes the importance of investing and using wealth to generate income, rather than hoarding it, and sees giving back as an essential part of the cycle of wealth creation. The speaker's perspective challenges the common perception of wealthy individuals as being solely focused on their own interests and highlights the potential for wealth to be a force for good.

    • The Impact of Television and Pay-Per-View on Boxing's Cultural SignificanceBoxing's cultural significance has shifted due to TV and pay-per-view, making it harder for individual boxers to stand out and reach a wider audience, while also limiting access for casual fans.

      The cultural significance and reach of boxing has changed dramatically due to the advent of television and the shift towards pay-per-view models. In the past, boxing matches were major events that could draw massive crowds and generate significant revenue for governments. With the rise of television and an abundance of entertainment options, however, boxing has had to adapt to a new landscape. Rory's experience illustrates this, as he noted that Muhammad Ali was a household name in the UK during his time, with limited television channels and fewer entertainment options. Today, with the proliferation of channels and streaming services, it's harder for individual boxers to stand out and capture the public's attention. Additionally, the move towards pay-per-view models has made it more difficult for casual fans to access boxing matches, potentially limiting its reach and impact on the broader culture. Rory also discussed his involvement in social issues, such as the Black Lives Matter movement, and the backlash he faced for speaking out. He believed it was important to address issues in his community and work towards positive change, even if it meant facing criticism.

    • Emphasizing unity and shared humanityAjay Ishmail values unity and recognizes the importance of addressing racial issues, learning from mistakes, and focusing on local community efforts to inspire change

      Everyone, regardless of race or background, is equal and deserving of respect and understanding. Ajay Ishmail, in a conversation about a mistake made during a speech, emphasized the importance of unity and recognizing our shared humanity. He regretted not addressing racial issues during the speech but believes in the power of local community efforts to bring about change. Despite being in the public eye and having a platform, he acknowledges making mistakes and being allowed to learn from them. Ajay expressed a desire to focus on local issues and inspire change in his community, recognizing the impact of political figures like Muhammad Ali. He acknowledged that politics may be thrust upon him due to his profile, but his focus remains on his career and using his platform for good.

    • Turning Negatives into PositivesBoxer Tyson Fury adapts to challenges, intends to use potential Russia fight funds for Ukraine, learns from losses, and emphasizes winning and improvement.

      Boxer Tyson Fury believes in turning negatives into positives and adapting to new challenges in order to succeed. He shared an example of how he would consider fighting in Russia despite potential backlash, intending to use the funds to help those affected by the conflict in Ukraine. Fury also discussed how he learned from losses and evolved his approach to boxing, citing his rematch against Ruiz as an example. He emphasized the importance of winning and continually improving, both inside and outside the ring. The obstacle to a potential fight between Fury and Klitschko lies in aligning their schedules and trajectories in their respective careers.

    • Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury's Anticipated Boxing Match: A Waiting GameDespite eagerness and potential financial gains, the Joshua vs Fury boxing match may not occur due to timing and personal priorities. Hope remains for a historic and positive outcome.

      Despite the desire and potential for a highly anticipated boxing match between two top contenders, Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury, the fight may not materialize due to various reasons including timing and personal priorities. Both athletes have expressed their eagerness for the bout, but it seems to be a waiting game as of now. The potential financial gains are not an issue for either party, but the fight's occurrence hinges on the right timing and mutual agreement. The disappointment of past cancellations and the passage of time have left some feeling deflated, but the possibility of a positive outcome remains. The potential impact of the fight on inspiring the country and making history is a shared vision. Ultimately, the hope is that the two champions can put aside their differences and focus on the potential for a historic and positive outcome rather than getting bogged down in ego and disrespect.

    • Using wealth to make a differenceUsing wealth for small acts of kindness can significantly improve someone's life. Successful individuals have used their platforms to make a difference, and starting an organization is a fulfilling way to help others.

      Using one's wealth and success to help others is more impactful than flaunting it. The speaker, who is interested in observing obsessive mindsets, discussed how individuals like Vitaly Klitschko, Manny Pacquiao, Nikolai Valuev, Idi Amin, Eric Morales, and Alexis Arguello, all successful in boxing and politics, have used their platforms to make a difference. The speaker emphasized that small acts of kindness, such as giving someone £20, can significantly improve someone's life. He also shared his personal experience of starting an organization to help people and encouraged others to do the same. In essence, the speaker believes that using one's resources to help others is more fulfilling than showcasing wealth.

    • Lessons from Anthony Joshua beyond the ringJoshua's positive mindset, teamwork, dedication, and resilience offer valuable lessons for individuals in all walks of life.

      Anthony Joshua, the world heavyweight boxing champion, is not only an impressive athlete but also a remarkable person with a positive mindset and the ability to bounce back from defeats. His dedication, teamwork, and single-minded focus are lessons that can be applied beyond the ring. Despite the immense pressure and infrequent fights, Joshua maintains a sunny disposition and a desire to learn and adapt. His openness to sharing his experiences and insights offers valuable lessons for individuals in all walks of life. Additionally, his unwavering commitment to his goals, even in the face of adversity, is a testament to his resilience and determination.

    • Exploring new topics on 'The Rest is Boxing' podcast and releasing second Harari interviewThe podcast 'The Rest is Boxing' will cover a range of topics with valuable insights, including a second interview with Yuval Noah Harari on technology and humanity's future.

      I'm starting a new podcast called "The Rest is Boxing," where I'll be sharing my insights on various topics with confidence and hopefully attract a large audience. Additionally, the second part of my interview with Yuval Noah Harari will be released on Monday, 14th August, so be sure to tune in for that. During our previous conversation with Harari, we touched on several thought-provoking topics, including the future of technology and humanity. He shared his perspective on how technology could potentially lead to the next evolutionary leap for humans, but also warned about the potential risks and challenges that come with it. As for my new podcast, I'm excited to explore a wider range of topics and share my thoughts with a larger audience. I may not get Mayweather's name right every time, but I'll do my best to provide valuable insights and engaging content. Overall, whether it's through my interviews with thought leaders like Yuval Noah Harari or my own musings on various topics, I'm committed to providing valuable and thought-provoking content for my listeners. Stay tuned for the latest episodes of both "The Rest is Boxing" and my ongoing interviews with Harari.

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