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    311: It's Not a Job, It's a Lifestyle with Tom Odom

    enApril 11, 2023

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    • Impact of AB 5 and PRO Act on Freelancers and Independent WorkersLegislation like AB 5 and PRO Act could significantly alter freelancers' and independent contractors' lives, potentially impacting millions nationwide. Stay informed and support the freelance community.

      There's an ongoing threat to freelancers and independent workers, specifically in the form of legislation like AB 5 and the PRO Act. This legislation, currently impacting California but with potential nationwide implications, could significantly alter the lives of freelancers and independent contractors, including truck drivers like Tom Odom. Tom, a guest on The Way I Heard It podcast, shares his personal experience of relocating his business and family due to these laws. It's essential to keep this issue in mind, as freelancers and independent workers play a crucial role in our economy and daily lives. They are the "dead, screwed, blued, and tattooed" without whom we would be severely impacted. Tom, a patriot and lover of his country, is just one example of the many lives affected by this issue. It's important to stay informed and support the freelance community.

    • A Marine's Journey to Becoming a Truck Driver with Scholarship SupportThe Marine Corps Scholarship Foundation offers financial aid, enabling veterans to pursue new careers like trucking and overcome adversity

      Tom Odum, a resilient and inspiring figure, overcame adversity and left his past behind to pursue a new lifestyle as a truck driver. The Marine Corps Scholarship Foundation provides significant financial aid to eligible applicants, enabling them to pursue various vocations, including trucking. Tom's experiences as a long-distance trucker involve traveling thousands of miles, discovering various museums, and making new friends. By sharing Tom's story and the scholarship opportunities offered by the Marine Corps Scholarship Foundation, we can appreciate the transformative power of perseverance and financial aid.

    • A veteran trucker enjoys the flexibility and variety of the spot marketVeteran truckers like Tom can thrive in the unpredictable spot market by being selective, researching weather and markets, and biding wisely.

      For Tom, the uncertainty of the spot market in trucking provides him with the flexibility and variety he enjoys after decades of experience in the industry. He's able to make a decent living by being selective and careful in his bidding process, considering factors like weather and market conditions. Despite the loneliness and unpredictability, Tom's long-term savings and experience allow him to thrive in this lifestyle. He's been in the business since the late 70s, and his strategy involves waking up early, researching weather and markets, and bidding on loads with a good balance of supply and demand. However, this level of uncertainty can be a challenge for some, and the industry's regulations, like AB5, can add to the complexity.

    • Trucking: Essential Role in Daily Life and AdventureTrucking is crucial for the transportation of goods and contributes significantly to the economy with 3.5 million drivers in the US. Independent truckers and small companies play a large role in the freight industry, delivering essential items to our homes and businesses, making them the backbone of the supply chain.

      Trucking plays a vital role in the transportation of goods across the country, and independent truckers contribute significantly to this system. While interstates offer efficiency, taking the less-traveled routes provides unique experiences and beauty. With approximately 3.5 million truck drivers in the United States, small trucking companies and independent drivers make up a large portion of the freight industry. They are essential in delivering items to our homes, workplaces, and businesses, making them the backbone of the country's supply chain. The interconnectedness of trucks and truckers in our daily lives is immense, as everything we consume has been transported via trucks at some point. Trucking goes beyond just moving cargo; it offers a sense of adventure, solitude, and appreciation for the natural beauty of the country.

    • Trucking Industry's Retention ProblemThe trucking industry struggles with a retention issue due to the demanding lifestyle, and the proposed AB 5 legislation in California could worsen the situation for independent truckers.

      The trucking industry is not facing a simple driver shortage, but rather a retention problem. Many drivers leave the industry because of the demanding lifestyle that requires long periods of time away from family. The average independent trucker drives around 120,000 miles per year, which is significantly more than the average commuter. Pure Talk, a sponsor of this podcast, offers an affordable alternative to traditional cell phone providers with no contracts, dependable 5G coverage, and plans starting at just $20 a month. Approximately half of the 1 million independent truckers in the US own 1 to 5 trucks and continue to drive while managing their businesses. The proposed AB 5 legislation in California could negatively impact these independent truckers by removing their ability to lease their businesses to larger carriers, potentially leading to increased costs for insurance and fuel. This could force some truckers to reconsider their livelihoods, adding to the ongoing challenges in the trucking industry.

    • From Contract to Independent Trucker: More Responsibilities, More RewardsBecoming an independent trucker involves more risks and responsibilities, but also greater rewards in terms of profit and control. Insurance, safety standards, and additional costs are considerations, but having a business mindset and taking calculated risks can lead to success.

      Being an independent trucker involves more responsibilities and risks than being a contract trucker, but it also comes with greater rewards in terms of profit and control over one's business. The speaker shared his personal experience of transitioning from working for his family's company with a group authority to obtaining his own authority and running his own trucking business. He mentioned the importance of having insurance and meeting safety standards to be on the road, and how having more trucks could potentially lead to hiring more employees and working less, but it also meant dealing with additional costs and responsibilities. The speaker also shared his past experience as a Teamster and how he was fined for working too hard, highlighting the different mindset and priorities between independent and contract truckers. Overall, the speaker emphasized the importance of having a business mindset and being willing to take on more risks and responsibilities to reap the rewards of being an independent trucker.

    • Conflicting Experiences with Unions and Personal InitiativeUnions can discourage personal initiative, but they also provide important protections. Finding a balance is key to ensuring both employees and employers benefit.

      While the speaker strongly agrees with the concept of personal initiative and self-distinction, they have encountered conflicting experiences with unions, specifically the Teamsters. They have seen instances where unions have discouraged employees from going above and beyond their required duties, leading to a lack of motivation and potential inefficiency. However, the speaker acknowledges the importance and validity of unions and respects individual choices to join them. They believe that the key lies in finding a balance between personal initiative and union rules, ensuring that both the employees and employers benefit. The speaker's personal experiences have led to complex relationships and even friendships with union members, who hold different perspectives and priorities. Ultimately, the speaker is advocating for a more nuanced conversation on the topic, recognizing the importance of understanding and respecting various viewpoints.

    • Understanding the Differences Between Independent and Contractor LifestylesThe ABC test can limit independent work in the same industry as the contracting company, but the independent lifestyle offers self-sufficiency and control.

      The independent lifestyle and the contractor lifestyle have distinct differences, particularly during times of supply chain disruptions or economic uncertainty. The ABC test, which can prevent independent contractors from working in the same industry as the contracting company, can discourage initiative and independence. This mindset assumes that independent work is a result of being forced into a situation rather than a choice. However, many individuals thrive in this lifestyle, which allows them to be self-sufficient and in control of their own affairs. The conversation also touched upon the origins of AB 5 in California, which was driven by a union official, and the impact it had on various industries and workers. Ultimately, the decision to be an independent or a contractor is a personal one, and it's essential to understand the implications and challenges that come with each choice.

    • California AB 5 Law and Its Impact on the Trucking Industry and BeyondThe California AB 5 law, which restricts independent contractor status, could have far-reaching implications for industries and professions, including home services, potentially leading to higher costs for home repairs if workers are no longer independent contractors. Protect your home investments by addressing any water damage issues promptly.

      The trucking industry is facing significant regulatory changes, specifically regarding independent contractor status, which could have far-reaching implications beyond the industry. The California AB 5 law, which restricts independent contractor status, has been a topic of controversy and is currently being challenged in the courts. If this law were to be adopted nationally, it could impact various industries and professions, including home services, where many workers are independent contractors. For instance, a homeowner in Ohio or Baltimore might face higher costs for home repairs if the workers are no longer independent contractors. The situation is evolving, with the Supreme Court considering the issue of state rights. In the meantime, it's essential to protect your investments, such as your home, by addressing any water damage issues promptly. A free, no-obligation home inspection from Groundworks can help identify and address potential water damage, ensuring your home remains safe and secure.

    • Proposed labor laws may limit business flexibility and independenceNew labor laws could increase costs and create conflict, rather than celebrating unique contributions and fostering self-reliance and entrepreneurship.

      The proposed changes in labor laws, such as the ABC test and the B-5 bill, could limit the flexibility and independence of businesses and individuals, particularly in industries where people wear multiple hats and work on various projects. This rigidity could lead to increased costs, as employers would be required to provide benefits for all employees, regardless of their hours or roles. Furthermore, this could create a culture of conflict and blame, where individuals are seen as exploited or oppressed if they are not treated equally. Instead, it is essential to recognize and celebrate the unique contributions and initiatives of individuals and businesses, as they are a crucial part of the American spirit of self-reliance and entrepreneurship. The romantic notion of being one's own boss, like a trucker on the open road, should not be overshadowed by transactional realities. Instead, we should focus on fostering an environment that encourages hard work, opportunity, and lifestyle choices.

    • The trucking industry's crucial role during lockdowns and its appeal as an attractive career pathDespite challenges, the trucking industry offers attractive financial rewards, freedom, and a unique lifestyle, making it an attractive career choice for many, especially those without traditional educational backgrounds.

      The trucking industry played a crucial role during the lockdowns, making truck drivers essential workers. Despite the challenges, such as limited access to restrooms, the financial rewards and freedom of the job have made it an attractive career path for many, especially those who didn't have traditional educational backgrounds. The speaker, for instance, grew up in poverty in East LA, dropped out of high school at 16, and went from making minimum wage to earning over $140,000 in a year as a truck driver. The industry offers a unique lifestyle and flexibility, which is highly valued by many.

    • The 21st century cowboy: A trucker's life storyTruckers like Tom Odum are crucial to the supply chain, facing personal sacrifices and challenges to transport goods from production to consumers. Their dedication and resilience shape them into skilled professionals.

      Tom Odum, a long-haul trucker, is an essential part of the supply chain, acting as the connective tissue that moves goods from production to consumers. He is the "21st century cowboy," and his job requires dedication and a love for the profession due to the sacrifices it demands. Odum shared his personal experiences of being a trucker, including the importance of family and the challenges of the job. He also discussed his experiences growing up in East LA during the 60s and 70s, sharing harrowing stories of violence and adversity. Despite these challenges, Odum's determination and resilience have shaped him into the skilled and dedicated trucker he is today.

    • Tom's inspiring journey despite adversityTom's story highlights the importance of perseverance and determination in overcoming adversity, even when faced with traumatic experiences and difficult circumstances.

      Despite facing numerous challenges in his life, including being shot and stabbed, dropping out of high school, and struggling financially, Tom Odum refused to give up. He went on to start his own business and is now living his life on the road. His resilience and determination serve as an inspiration. Tom's story began with him being shot between his legs with a shotgun when he was 15 years old. Prior to that, he had been stabbed at the age of 13. Despite these traumatic experiences, Tom did not let them define his future. He dropped out of high school when he was 16 and did not attend college, but he took a business administration class to better understand the industry when he started his own company. Tom's parents were on welfare, and he came from a difficult background. However, he refused to accept his circumstances and instead worked hard to create a better life for himself. Despite the challenges he faced, Tom's story is one of perseverance and determination. He is now living his life on the road and is an inspiration to all who hear his story. It's important to remember that everyone faces challenges in their lives, but it's how we respond to them that defines our future. Tom's story serves as a reminder that no matter how difficult things may seem, we have the power to overcome adversity and create a better future for ourselves.

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