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    345: Life is All Based On The Decisions That YOU Make. So Live a Good One.

    enAugust 03, 2022

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    • Jocko Willink's Extreme Ownership Leadership LoopEffective leadership involves a continuous process of observing, orienting, deciding, and acting to adapt and make faster, better decisions than competitors.

      Effective leadership is not just about instincts, but rather a process that can be learned and taught. During a leadership event, Jocko Willink realized that his decisions, which appeared instinctive to others, were actually the result of a well-developed process. He calls this process the "Extreme Ownership Leadership Loop," which is based on the OODA loop (Observe, Orient, Decide, and Act). By constantly observing the situation, orienting oneself, deciding on actions, and acting on those decisions, leaders can adapt and make effective decisions faster than their competitors. This loop, which can be applied to various fields including business and martial arts, emphasizes the importance of continuous learning and improvement in leadership.

    • Two Different Decision-Making LoopsUnderstand the OODA and Extreme Ownership Leadership loops for effective decision-making in different contexts. Time is the most crucial factor in both loops, emphasizing the importance of being aware and planning accordingly.

      There are different decision-making loops for different situations. The OODA loop, which originated in a military context, is focused on making decisions in the physical realm against an enemy or competitor. On the other hand, the Extreme Ownership Leadership loop is more applicable to conceptual ideas and human interaction in the non-physical realm. The EO Leadership loop provides a framework for making decisions, with time being the first and most important consideration. Unlike other factors, time is not fluid and cannot be stopped. Being aware of time and planning accordingly can help reduce stress and improve decision-making in leadership situations.

    • Appreciating Sprinter Vans Despite the CostDespite their high cost, Sprinter vans can be admired by individuals from all walks of life. Maintain a positive attitude and respect others to foster good interactions.

      Despite the negative perception surrounding Sprinter vans due to their expensive nature, they can still be appreciated and admired by individuals from various lifestyle backgrounds, including those who identify as "bums" in the outdoor sports community. This was illustrated in a story where the speaker, who owns a Sprinter and enjoys outdoor activities, had a friendly interaction with the owner of a rare Volkswagen Synchro van at REI. However, the interaction took a hostile turn when the Synchro owner became upset about the speaker's refusal to let him go first in the parking lot. Ultimately, the speaker chose to remain calm and respectful, despite the other driver's aggression. This anecdote highlights the importance of maintaining a positive attitude and respecting others, even in seemingly trivial situations.

    • Effective Time Management in Decision MakingUnderstand personal biases, prioritize time, and assess rate of change to make informed decisions and avoid missing deadlines.

      Understanding and managing time effectively is crucial in decision making. The speaker emphasizes the importance of assessing the amount of time available and the rate of change when making decisions. He also suggests that some people have a better sense of time than others and that being aware of personal biases, such as underestimating time, is essential. The speaker shares his personal experience of always thinking about time first and being almost never late due to this mindset. He encourages everyone to know themselves and understand their own biases to ensure they have enough time to complete tasks. The speaker's reflections on his own experiences with being late for jiu jitsu contrasts with his consistent punctuality in other areas of his life. Overall, the key takeaway is to prioritize time management in decision making and be aware of personal biases to avoid being late or missing deadlines.

    • People prioritize personal desires over punctualityMany people value their personal activities over being on time, leading to frequent lateness for commitments.

      People often prioritize their personal desires and time over being punctual, even if it means being late for commitments. This was the case for the speaker, who admitted to often being late for work while working at a nightclub. He realized that he valued other activities, such as taking a nap or watching TV, more than being on time. The speaker even shared an experience of making a gentleman's agreement with a friend to not be too late for studying sessions. They understood that the only way to ensure punctuality was to be significantly early, which seemed unnecessary when they could be doing things they enjoyed instead. The speaker emphasized that this behavior is not necessarily good or bad, but it's a common mindset that people adopt when they view being late as less important than other activities.

    • Considering team needs over individual desiresEffective leaders prioritize team needs, factor in potential delays, and maintain a supportive distance to foster a positive team environment.

      Effective leadership involves considering the needs of the team before individual desires. This was discussed in relation to ensuring punctuality, with the suggestion that factoring in potential traffic delays is a fair consideration for the team as a whole. The speaker also emphasized the importance of cover and move in leadership, meaning putting the team first and maintaining a supportive distance. He warned against self-serving tendencies and the negative consequences of others perceiving such behavior. Overall, the conversation highlighted the importance of considering the team's needs and maintaining a supportive leadership style.

    • Consider Secondary Effects on Your TeamConsider the impact of decisions on team members and prioritize those that align with team goals. Avoid complications, communicate effectively, and use a checklist to ensure all secondary effects are considered.

      Making decisions should not only benefit yourself but also your team. It's essential to consider the secondary effects of your decisions and how they may impact others. Keep things simple by avoiding complications and prioritize executing decisions that align with your team's goals. Always be intentional and recognize the potential consequences of your actions. Additionally, having a checklist can help ensure you don't overlook the secondary effects of your decisions. Remember, teamwork and communication are crucial for making effective decisions.

    • Focus on the right priorities and delegate effectivelyEffective prioritization and delegation help maximize productivity and successful leadership by allowing you to focus on your unique responsibilities and empowering team members to handle tasks.

      Effective prioritization and delegation are crucial for productivity and leadership. If you have a tendency to get distracted or shift priorities frequently, it's essential to focus on the right priorities and double-check that your decisions support them. Decentralized command, or delegating tasks to team members, can help you lead effectively by allowing you to focus on what only you can do. However, it's important to balance delegation with the need to handle important or undesirable tasks yourself. By being aware of your responsibilities and effectively managing priorities and delegation, you can maximize productivity and lead your team successfully.

    • Balancing Delegation and Taking on Unpleasant TasksEffective leaders prioritize relationships, consider team morale, and avoid ego-driven decisions to delegate and take on tasks for better team cohesion and overall success.

      Effective leadership involves prioritizing relationships with troops, understanding the importance of taking on tasks that others may find unpleasant, and being mindful of the role that ego plays in decision-making. Leaders should not only delegate tasks based on importance but also consider the impact on team morale and their own involvement. It's essential to maintain a balance between delegating and taking on tasks that suck, as this can lead to better team cohesion and overall success. Furthermore, leaders must be aware of their ego's influence and avoid making decisions based on personal biases or a desire to prove themselves. By staying humble, listening to others, and considering the bigger picture, leaders can make informed decisions that benefit the team and contribute to a successful mission.

    • Thoughtful Decision Making: Beyond Rank, Position, and ExperienceEffective decision-making goes beyond relying on rank, position, or experience. Articulate reasoning, consider emotions, seek diverse perspectives, and use logic to make informed decisions.

      Effective decision-making goes beyond relying on rank, position, or experience. Driving decisions based solely on these factors can come across as dismissive and may not be persuasive. Instead, it's crucial to articulate the reasoning behind decisions, focusing on the benefits and logic rather than personal attributes. Emotions can also cloud judgment, so it's essential to be aware of them and consider them as part of the decision-making process, but not the primary driver. Perspective is another crucial factor, and seeking out diverse viewpoints can lead to a better understanding of the issue at hand and more informed decision-making. In summary, thoughtful decision-making involves considering various factors, emotions, perspectives, and logic, and being aware of how they influence the process.

    • Effective strategy for teams: Embrace absent leadershipTeam members can step up, improve decision-making, and collaborate when leadership is absent, but open communication and active listening are crucial.

      Acknowledging and embracing the absence of clear leadership can be an effective strategy for teams, as it allows members to step up and execute their plans with confidence. This approach can also lead to improved decision-making, as team members are encouraged to support each other's plans and collaborate to find the best solution. However, it's important to be aware of biases and the tendency to believe that one's own idea is the best, and to make an effort to consider other perspectives. By fostering open communication and active listening, teams can work together more effectively and adapt to changing circumstances.

    • Exploring Claircognizance: Intuitive Knowing Without SensesClaircognizance is a psychic ability involving intuitive knowing without using senses, distinct from remote viewing or guessing. Brain's complexity makes understanding it challenging, but ongoing investigations continue.

      The speaker is discussing the concept of claircognizance, a psychic ability where one receives information intuitively without the use of the five senses. He clarifies that it's not remote viewing or guessing but rather reacting to cues from the person being read. The speaker expresses his curiosity about the validity of this ability and suggests inviting a remote viewer on a program to discuss it further. He also mentions Eddie Bravo, who has a podcast called "Look Into It," as someone who is actively investigating various topics, including remote viewing. The speaker acknowledges that the brain's complexity makes it difficult to understand how such abilities work, but also points out that there's still much we don't know about the human brain. He shares a personal experience with a rebounder, which may improve the lymphatic system, and emphasizes that even if this claim is true, the enjoyment of the trampoline for him and his family is reason enough to have one.

    • Consider mission impact and leadership capital when making decisionsVerify sources, consider different viewpoints, align with mission, and manage leadership capital wisely when making decisions.

      Making decisions requires careful consideration from various perspectives, including the potential impact on your mission and the leadership capital involved. When evaluating information, it's essential to verify sources and consider different viewpoints. The decision you're about to make should align with your overall mission and strategic goals. Additionally, every interaction involves the exchange of leadership capital, and as a leader, you must be mindful of the cost of each decision or task assigned. By keeping these factors in mind, you can make informed decisions that support your mission and maximize the use of your leadership capital.

    • Earning Leadership Capital through ActionsEffective leadership is about giving ownership, listening, and showing respect to earn trust and confidence, which is the true leadership capital. Actions like interrupting or dismissing someone can cost significant leadership capital.

      Leadership capital is not solely determined by rank or position, but rather earned through actions such as giving ownership, listening, and showing respect. These actions build trust and confidence among team members, making the team more effective and successful. Listening, for instance, is a simple yet powerful way to earn leadership capital, as it shows respect and value for others' ideas and perspectives. Conversely, interrupting or dismissing someone can cost significant leadership capital. Leadership capital is the currency of winning, and it's crucial to assess the cost and benefit of actions in terms of leadership capital. Ultimately, effective leadership is about understanding the complex dynamics of leadership capital and making informed decisions based on that assessment.

    • Preserving Leadership CapitalLeadership capital, including trust, integrity, vision, and unity, is essential for getting things done and should be preserved wisely to avoid relationship and progress breakdowns.

      Leadership capital is a valuable resource that should be preserved and used wisely. It encompasses trust, integrity, vision, and unity, making it more valuable than any other element. Yet, many people squander it without realizing its importance. Leadership capital is essential for getting things done, especially when there's no time to discuss or when people don't believe in a decision. It's as crucial as air, but often overlooked until it's depleted. Wasting leadership capital can lead to a breakdown in relationships and progress, similar to going bankrupt. Therefore, it's essential to consider the cost of leadership capital when making decisions and prioritize its preservation.

    • Considering Team Impact in Decision MakingEffective leaders assess personal desires, team priorities, and emotional impact before making decisions to ensure alignment with the team's mission and overall happiness.

      Effective decision-making in leadership involves considering various factors, including personal desires, team priorities, and emotional impact. Using the example of getting a family dog, the speaker went through a deliberate process of assessing the decision's impact on the team, the developmental benefits for their child, and the potential for delegating responsibilities. They also acknowledged the importance of putting the team's happiness above their own initial reservations and ensuring the decision aligned with the family's mission. This thoughtful approach ultimately led to a positive outcome for the family.

    • Considering the impact of decisions on intangible assets like leadership capitalEffective leaders build trust, respect, and goodwill with their team by considering the long-term implications of decisions on intangible assets like leadership capital, avoiding bias and addressing root causes.

      Effective leadership involves considering the impact of decisions not only on the mission, but also on intangible assets like leadership capital. Leadership capital refers to the trust, respect, and goodwill that a leader builds with their team. Leaders must be mindful of their bias and avoid making decisions based on ego or emotion that could negatively impact their leadership capital. Additionally, it's essential to distinguish between symptoms and root causes when making decisions and ensure that the proposed solution addresses the underlying problem. The speaker shares a personal anecdote about a situation where he initially resisted getting a dog for his children but eventually embraced it, recognizing the potential impact on his leadership capital if he continued to deny their request. This experience reinforced the importance of considering the long-term implications of decisions on leadership capital.

    • Detach from problems for clear perspectiveRecognize everything is a decision, consider all info, observe weaknesses, detach for broader perspective to make effective decisions

      Effective decision-making involves avoiding getting stuck in various thought processes and detaching from the problem to gain a clear perspective. The speaker emphasizes the importance of recognizing that everything in life is a decision and that good decisions lead to better personal growth, leadership, and control over one's life. A key pitfall is ignoring feedback and letting ego cloud judgment, which can lead to costly mistakes. To make better decisions, it's essential to observe weaknesses, consider all available information, and take a step back to gain a broader perspective. Ultimately, the ability to detach and see the solution from outside the problem is a powerful tool for effective decision-making.

    • Empowering personal growth and contributing to societyFocus on self-improvement through physical and mental health, staying informed, authenticity, and reading 'The Four Agreements' for practical insights and spiritual guidance.

      Individuals have the power to make positive changes in their lives and support their country by focusing on self-improvement. This includes taking care of oneself physically and mentally, and staying informed through reading or listening to books. The conversation also touched upon the importance of being honest and authentic in one's actions and not feeling the need to impress others with superficial accomplishments. Additionally, the context of the discussion suggested that the book "The Four Agreements" was a valuable resource for personal growth, offering practical insights and spiritual guidance. Ultimately, the key takeaway is that individuals can make meaningful impacts on their own lives and contribute to the greater good by making informed decisions and continuously striving for self-improvement.

    • Understanding the impact of the words and actions on othersBeing aware of others' perceptions and striving for impeccable words and actions can lead to better relationships and a deeper understanding of the world.

      Being aware of how others perceive our actions and intentions is crucial in understanding the impact we have on the world and others. The book "The Four Agreements" discusses this concept, emphasizing the importance of being impeccable with our word and not making assumptions. The speaker highlights that even seemingly obvious truths can provide valuable perspective and serve as tools for better understanding and interaction with the world. Reading regularly and engaging with diverse ideas is a powerful way to increase awareness and expand our understanding. The speaker shares his personal experience of reading extensively and the importance of not just consuming information, but also applying it to our lives. In essence, being aware of how others perceive us and striving for impeccability in our actions and words can lead to better relationships and a deeper understanding of the world around us.

    • Experiencing cowboy life at a dude ranch and honesty in personal habitsDiscussed the value of honesty in personal habits, emphasized the importance of self-improvement through activities like reading and working out, and shared the upgraded drink flavors of Jocko Fuel

      A dude ranch is a place where city people can experience the life of a cowboy. This conversation also touched on the importance of honesty, especially when it comes to personal habits like reading and working out. It was acknowledged that both activities have their benefits, but working out requires a more consistent commitment than reading. The conversation also included a discussion about Jocko Fuel's upgraded drink flavors, which are now more universally loved. Overall, the conversation emphasized the importance of self-improvement and being truthful about one's actions.

    • Values represented through actionsEmbrace discipline, economic strength, and self-expression for personal growth and freedom

      The speaker values discipline, freedom, and self-improvement, which are represented in various ways, including the consumption of sweeter beverages, purchasing American-made gear, and wearing thoughtfully designed merchandise. The speaker encourages listeners to make disciplined decisions, be economically strong, and consider the deeper meaning behind symbols and colors. The speaker also emphasizes the importance of having a platform for self-expression and independence, such as a podcast or a store, to spread messages and build a community. The speaker's words reveal a sense of resilience, creativity, and a call to action for listeners to join in the journey towards personal growth and freedom.

    • Jocko Willink's Team: Empowering Leaders Through Various PlatformsJocko Willink and his team offer numerous resources and events to help individuals enhance their leadership skills and make a difference in their lives and communities. Check out their YouTube channel, Echelon Front Leadership Consultancy, online training academy, and charities.

      Jocko Willink and his team have created various platforms to help individuals improve their leadership skills and make positive impacts in their lives and communities. This includes their YouTube channel Jockleunderground.com, Echelon Front Leadership Consultancy (echelonfront.com), online training academy at extremeownership.com, and charities like Americas Mighty Warriors and Heroes and Horses. The importance of leadership is emphasized, as everyone is in charge of making decisions and leading in their own way. The team encourages people to check out their resources and events, and to remember the significant impact of their decisions on their lives and the lives of others. Additionally, they express gratitude towards military personnel, first responders, and other service members for their sacrifices in providing freedom and security.

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    Chaplain Tedford J. Taylor, MDiv, BCCC, FHPC, Dip. CPS, Director, Pastoral Care & Training

    Ted joined Robert Wood Johnson University Hospital Hamilton in 2007 as the Director of Pastoral Care & Training. Prior to joining RWJ Hamilton, Ted spent five years as Manager of Spiritual & Complimentary Care for Samaritan Hospice, Marlton, NJ.  Prior to this, Ted served as the executive director of the New Jersey Unit of Recording for the Blind & Dyslexic (now Learning Ally) in Princeton, NJ.  Ted also has parish ministry experience as a lay pastor in the United Methodist Church and business administration experience as a community banking officer in the Baltimore, MD region.  

    Engaged in the life of our greater community, Ted has served on the Board of Trustees for Mercer Street Friends (a local human services agency). Ted is also a founding member of the NJ Goals of Care Coalition.  He is active as a member and treasurer of the Princeton Chapter of the College of Pastoral Supervision & Psychotherapy (CPSP) and serves on the Medical Society of New Jersey Bioethics Committee.  On a national level, Ted is a member of the Certification Committee for CPSP, and also recently chaired the steering committee for Quakers in Pastoral Care & Counseling.

    Ted holds a diplomate in pastoral supervision through CPSP, and is board certified as a clinical chaplain with CPSP, with a clinical fellowship in hospice & palliative care.  Ted is also a member of the Association of Professional Chaplains, the Association of Clinical Pastoral Education, and the American Society for Bioethics & Humanities. He holds a Master of Divinity degree from Baptist Theological Seminary at Richmond, a graduate certificate in Healthcare Law & Policy from Union Graduate College, and a Bachelor of Arts from The College of William & Mary. He has attended the theological studies programs at Regent's Park College at Oxford University, Oxford, England; and The Ecumenical Institute in Baltimore, MD.  Ted completed Clinical Pastoral Education (CPE) training through Columbia Presbyterian Medical Center in New York City, the University of Pennsylvania Medical Center in Philadelphia and Cooper Hospital / University Medical Center, Camden, NJ.  He completed his CPE Supervisory training at Robert Wood Johnson University Hospital in New Brunswick, NJ. 

    Ted resides in Ewing Township, Mercer County, NJ with his husband Kevin Hulbirt.  He is a recorded minister in the Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) and an active member of the Yardley Monthly Meeting in Yardley, PA, who endorse his pastoral care ministry. 

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