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    #457: Leadership Lessons From the Pastor of One of America's Most Innovative Churches

    enNovember 12, 2018

    Podcast Summary

    • Navigating setbacks and turning them into opportunities for growthStay innovative while maintaining stability, relinquish control for growth, acknowledge and appreciate team members, balance work and life, avoid administrative duties, and handle criticism to lead effectively and turn initial rejection into the growth of a large organization.

      Craig shared his experience of being rejected by an ordination board and feeling lost, but ultimately using that experience as motivation to start Life Church in his garage. Throughout the interview, Craig discussed the importance of staying innovative while maintaining stability, relinquishing control for growth, and recognizing the importance of acknowledging and appreciating team members. Additionally, Craig offered insights on balancing work and life, avoiding administrative duties that stifle creativity, and handling criticism. Despite initial rejection, Craig's leadership and vision have led to the growth of Life Church into a large organization with multiple campuses across the country. This conversation offers valuable lessons for anyone in a leadership role, whether in business or a nonprofit, on how to navigate setbacks and turn them into opportunities for growth.

    • Measuring spiritual growth through engagement and inputLife Church prioritizes measurable inputs like small group participation, use of gifts, community involvement, and giving for spiritual growth, while also embracing innovation and continuity in their Christian tradition.

      Life Church measures spiritual growth through various forms of engagement and input, rather than focusing solely on abstract goals. They measure engagement in small groups, use of gifts, community involvement, and giving, among other things. Innovation and testing are also important aspects of their growth strategy, but they also prioritize stability and continuity in their Christian tradition. The church's success can be attributed to their focus on measurable inputs that contribute to spiritual growth, as well as their innovative approaches to ministry, such as online sermons and a Bible app.

    • Innovating to meet changing cultural needsInnovate to engage with unchanging fundamentals, maintaining balance between tradition and progress, and valuing individuals' feelings of worth and contribution.

      While some aspects of an organization or project may remain constant, the way we deliver and engage with them should be innovative to meet changing cultural needs. For instance, the Bible app creators took a traditional and unchanging text and made it accessible through an innovative app, leading to 346 million downloads. However, there are also fundamental aspects that should not change, such as the need for individuals to feel valued and needed. This principle applies to various types of organizations, including churches, businesses, and nonprofits. As organizations grow, it's essential to strike a balance between maintaining the basics and being innovative to keep up with changing times. Additionally, individuals in organizations value feeling appreciated and needed, which is crucial for their engagement and commitment.

    • Empowering teams for growthTrust and empower team members to make decisions, eliminate unnecessary layers and rules, and tolerate initial missteps for organizational growth.

      Organizations, as they grow, can become bureaucratic and rule-heavy, hindering agility and decision-making. To stay lean and empowered, it's essential to eliminate unnecessary layers, fight against excessive rules, and trust and empower team members to make decisions. This can lead to a dip in production or quality as they learn, but the potential upside far outweighs the cost. Trusting and empowering the right people is crucial for organizational growth, even if it means tolerating some initial missteps. The desire to control can be a limiting factor, so it's essential to let go and give team members the opportunity to grow.

    • Trusting and Empowering Others for GrowthEffective leadership requires delegating authority and trusting others to lead, allowing the leader to focus on the organization's heartbeat and foster growth.

      Effective leadership involves taking calculated risks, including trusting and empowering others to lead and build your organization. Brett Hagler, the founder of Living Water International, shared his experience of struggling to find a second-in-command when his organization was young and fragile. He eventually found Jerry Hurley, who challenged him about his need for control and urged him to delegate authority instead of tasks. This shift allowed Brett to focus on the heartbeat of the culture and empower people to create and lead, resulting in growth beyond what he could have achieved alone. It's important to remember that striving for perfection can hinder growth, and trusting and empowering others is crucial for any organization to reach new heights.

    • Balancing creative and administrative responsibilitiesEffective leaders limit time in unproductive meetings, prioritize tasks with deadlines, and delegate responsibilities to become more efficient and focused in both creative and administrative areas.

      Effective leaders, especially those in large organizations, must balance administrative duties with creative responsibilities. To prevent the former from compromising the latter, leaders should limit time spent in unproductive meetings, prioritize tasks with artificial deadlines, and delegate responsibilities. By creating boundaries and constraints, leaders can become more efficient and focused, allowing them to excel in both creative and administrative areas. As Paul Graham noted, it's crucial to keep creative and administrative schedules separate to avoid mediocre results in both.

    • Recognizing and addressing personal weaknessesEffective leaders acknowledge their weaknesses, identify underlying causes, seek help, and prioritize relationships to remain connected and intentional.

      Effective leaders, like Pastor Matt, recognize their weaknesses and take active steps to address them. Pastor Matt shared his struggle with workaholism and how he identified his pride and lack of trust in others as underlying causes. He emphasized the importance of seeking help and being open to feedback. Additionally, leading a large organization can be isolating, so Pastor Matt prioritizes maintaining strong relationships and being intentional about connecting with individuals, even if he can't help them all directly. Overall, Pastor Matt's story underscores the importance of self-awareness and intentionality in leadership.

    • Balancing Responsibilities and Constructive Criticism as a LeaderEffective leaders prioritize their time and energy towards their mission, filter criticism based on context and frequency, and distinguish between informed and unjustified attacks.

      Effective leaders prioritize their time and energy towards what truly matters while also being open to constructive criticism. The speaker shares his personal experience of balancing various responsibilities and receiving feedback as a leader. He emphasizes the importance of staying focused on the mission and filtering criticism based on context and frequency. The speaker also mentions the need to distinguish between informed and uninformed criticism and to maintain a "no response" rule for unjustified attacks. Overall, the conversation highlights the importance of being intentional with time, energy, and responses as a leader.

    • Recognizing individual value and purposeExpress appreciation, connect to purpose, and create opportunities for growth to motivate and engage individuals.

      Recognizing the value and impact of individuals, whether it's through acknowledging their efforts or connecting their work to a higher purpose, is essential for motivation and engagement. Whether it's in personal relationships or leading volunteers, expressing appreciation and noticing their contributions can go a long way. Additionally, having a clear vision and creating opportunities for growth can inspire people to contribute to something greater. The world is changing rapidly, so instead of focusing on long-term goals, it's important to create flexibility and margin for unexpected opportunities. Ultimately, caring for and valuing people is key to building strong relationships and effective organizations.

    • Focus on inputs for the right outcomesInstead of chasing numerical goals, focus on preparing for opportunities to ensure wise and strategic growth. Stay current and adaptable to thrive in an unpredictable business world.

      Instead of focusing on numerical goals that may lead to hasty decisions, it's more effective to focus on the inputs that will lead to the right outcomes. This means preparing and planning for opportunities as they come, rather than trying to predict the future. Being financially and personally prepared allows for the seizing of unexpected opportunities while maintaining a wise and strategic approach to growth. Craig Rush emphasizes the importance of growing at the right pace and being open to new opportunities, as the world is changing faster than ever before. By staying current and prepared, one can adapt and thrive in an unpredictable business landscape.

    • Insights on Leadership from Craig Groeschel's PodcastExplore leadership wisdom from Craig Groeschel, head pastor at Life Church, through his podcast. Search 'Craig Groeschel leadership podcast' or visit life.church/leadership-podcast. For resources, see aom.is/groschel. Share, review, and support for more manly tips.

      Craig Groeschel, the head pastor at Life Church, provides valuable insights on leadership through his podcast. To listen, search for "Craig Groeschel leadership podcast" on your preferred podcast platform or visit life.church/leadership-podcast. For more resources, check out our show notes at aom.is/groschel. Remember, for more manly tips and advice, visit ArtofManliness.com. If you've enjoyed the show, please take a minute to leave a review on iTunes or Stitcher. Don't forget to share the podcast with someone who might benefit from it. Keep supporting us, and until next time, stay Manly!

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