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    662: ROE > ROI and Why Your “Cash Flow” Number is Deceiving w/Chris Lopez

    enSeptember 15, 2022

    Podcast Summary

    • Scaling up real estate investing with ROE strategy and mentorshipInvesting in real estate using ROE strategy can help grow your portfolio, find mentors to learn from, use content for marketing and lead generation, consider passive investment options, and prioritize thorough tenant screening.

      Investing in real estate using the return on equity strategy can help you scale up your properties and portfolio, potentially changing your investing trajectory. Mentorship was another topic discussed, with advice on how to find and prove yourself to potential mentors. Chris Lopez, the guest on the podcast, also shared insights on using content for marketing and lead generation, as well as the importance of copywriting. Additionally, the episode explored the possibility of investing in real estate passively through private funds or no money down options, providing passive income without the hassle of property management. Lastly, the importance of good tenant screening was emphasized, with RentReady's new feature making it easier and more comprehensive.

    • Confidently Invest in Real Estate with Rent Ready's Tenant Screening ProcessDetermine the best ROI for your real estate investments by evaluating your portfolio's equity and cash flow. Consider selling or refinancing if the number falls short of potential returns.

      Investing in real estate with confidence is now possible through Rent Ready's tenant screening process, which is included in BiggerPockets Pro memberships. For new customers, Rent Ready is offering a 50% discount on their annual plan using the code bp2024. Additionally, evaluating the equity in your current portfolio is essential to determine if you're getting the best return on investment. The formula is to divide the annual cash flow by the current equity in the property. If the number is less than what you could get from reinvesting that money, consider selling or refinancing. Chris Lopez, a real estate investor, shared his journey into real estate investing 20 years ago after reading "Rich Dad Poor Dad." He started with online marketing businesses before pivoting to real estate five years ago. Today, his portfolio consists of 8 units in Denver and passive investments across the country. He focuses on investing in his backyard to leverage his network and knowledge. Recently, he shifted towards passive investing due to lifestyle choices and business growth.

    • Balancing real estate investments and business focusShifting from direct to passive investing and focusing on strengths can lead to highest returns. Understand time and money assets, prioritize, and leverage past failures for future success in real estate.

      Successful real estate investing often involves a balance between different types of investments and focusing on one's strengths. The interviewee shared how they shifted from direct real estate investing to passive investing and focusing on their business, which brought them the highest return on their time. They also emphasized the importance of understanding the differences between time and money as assets and prioritizing accordingly. The interviewee's background in tech and marketing played a significant role in building a successful real estate-focused business. They emphasized the importance of learning from past failures and using those experiences to inform future decisions. The landscape of real estate investing has changed, making it more challenging to become a full-time investor, but the demand for alternatives to traditional jobs remains high. A viable solution is to leave a hated job for one in real estate while supplementing investing efforts.

    • Learn from unexpected events and diversify lead sourcesUnexpectedly losing a primary lead source can be detrimental. Invest time and resources into multiple lead sources and diversify marketing efforts to mitigate risk.

      Relying on a single source for leads can be risky for businesses. The speaker learned this lesson the hard way when Google turned off their ads, which were the primary source of leads for their business. This unexpected event forced them to pivot and focus on content marketing, personal branding, and multiple sources of leads. The speaker emphasized the importance of having control over lead generation and not relying on external companies that can shut down your business without warning. This experience taught them the value of investing time and resources into establishing multiple lead sources and diversifying marketing efforts.

    • Starting out in real estate with no network or experienceCreating content, focusing on local SEO, and finding a mentor can help newcomers succeed in real estate.

      Starting out in a new market with no network or experience in real estate can be challenging, but creating content and establishing yourself as a thought leader can help fill the knowledge gap. The speaker, who went through this process in Denver, Colorado, found success by starting a podcast, focusing on local SEO, and most importantly, finding a mentor to guide him through the specific tactics and techniques that work in the local market. Content creation is important, but it's equally important to seek out the expertise of those who have already succeeded in the market you're entering. The speaker's unique approach of cold-calling brokerages led him to find a mentor and accelerate his growth.

    • Identify unique skills to add value to mentor's business or expertiseTo build a successful mentorship, identify your unique skills and propose solutions to your mentor's problems, creating a win-win situation for both parties to grow and succeed together.

      Building a meaningful mentor-mentee relationship goes beyond just seeking advice and knowledge from the mentor. To make it a mutually beneficial partnership, it's crucial to identify your unique skills and how they can complement and add value to your mentor's business or expertise. This creates a win-win situation where both parties can grow and succeed together. Researching your potential mentor, understanding their interests, and proposing solutions to their problems are effective ways to initiate and strengthen this relationship. Remember, everyone has valuable skills to offer, so take the time to identify yours and find the common ground to build a successful mentorship.

    • Be intentional, specific, and proactive when seeking mentorshipWhen reaching out for mentorship, offer value in return, understand the mentor's expertise and time commitment, research their work, and look for opportunities to collaborate.

      When seeking mentorship or looking to provide value, it's essential to be intentional, specific, and proactive. Instead of just asking for help, consider how you can also offer value in return. Be aware of the expertise and time commitment of the person you're reaching out to, and come prepared with a clear understanding of how you can contribute. Research and follow their work before reaching out, and look for opportunities to make their work better or collaborate on projects. By approaching mentorship in this way, you can build meaningful relationships and create mutually beneficial partnerships. The example given was of someone reaching out to a successful real estate YouTuber and offering to help him in return for guidance and collaboration. This approach led to a successful partnership and demonstrates the importance of being intentional and proactive in seeking mentorship.

    • Show up with a solutionCome prepared with a proposal or solution to add value and stand out in potential connections.

      Instead of asking how you can provide value, come prepared with a solution or proposal to show potential connections. This proactive approach is more effective in getting their attention and building a meaningful connection. Success is a process of incremental steps, and each step requires bringing value to the world in some way. By starting with self-assessment and building skills, you can both benefit yourself in wealth building and attract potential mentors. Don't expect others to do all the heavy lifting for you, as success comes from applying your skills and learning new ones. Chris's journey from SEO to real estate to software demonstrates this pattern. Be practical and offer something tangible to stand out in a busy world.

    • Leverage existing skills and passions for successAssess current abilities, focus on improvement, and provide value to potential mentors to maximize potential and achieve greater success

      Identifying and building upon existing skills and passions can lead to greater success and fulfillment in both personal and professional pursuits. The speaker shares his experience in real estate, emphasizing the importance of self-assessment to determine current skills and interests. He encourages focusing on these areas and improving them, rather than spreading oneself too thin by starting something new without a solid foundation. Additionally, the speaker suggests being proactive and providing value to potential mentors when seeking guidance. By following this approach, individuals can maximize their potential and achieve greater success.

    • Building a two-way mentor relationshipBeing pleasantly persistent and executing on opportunities can help you find an effective mentor. Mentoring can be fulfilling and rewarding for both parties, but scaling one-on-one relationships can be challenging, so consider creating content or podcasting to reach a larger audience.

      Finding a mentor is about building a two-way relationship. According to Beau, the most effective way to learn from someone is to work directly with them. This creates an opportunity for the mentor to invest time and energy into the mentee's growth. Beau likens this to Instagram ads, which can be effective because they make decisions for us when we're too busy to think about our needs. To find a mentor, Beau suggests being pleasantly persistent and executing on the opportunity when it presents itself. Now that Beau is in a more established position in his career, he is also experiencing the reverse role, where he is being sought out as a mentor. He finds this fulfilling and rewarding, both personally and financally. However, he acknowledges that one-on-one mentoring can be difficult to scale, so he is also exploring ways to mentor a larger audience through content creation and podcasting.

    • Authentic content builds relationshipsUse authentic content to attract resonating audiences, provide valuable tools, and nurture meaningful interactions for potential investment opportunities.

      Content marketing is a scalable and cost-effective way to build brand awareness and provide value, while also allowing for the cultivation of highly valuable one-on-one relationships. Chris emphasizes the importance of authenticity and understanding the audience, using content to attract those who resonate with his approach. He also highlights the power of lead magnets and providing valuable tools to opt-in subscribers, leading to meaningful interactions and potential investment opportunities. Content marketing, like investing, requires a strategic mindset and the ability to identify and nurture valuable relationships, resulting in compounding returns over time.

    • Scaling a business through effective lead generation and valuable contentFocus on providing value to potential investors through lead magnets, evaluate opportunities to scale, and differentiate oneself with a unique business card.

      Continuous growth and improvement are essential for scaling a business. This can be achieved by regularly evaluating opportunities to scale, letting go of ineffective methods, and focusing on providing value to potential customers through lead magnets. Lead magnets are a powerful tool for attracting high-quality leads by offering valuable, free content that establishes trust and credibility. The better the content and marketing, the better the fit between the business and the potential investor. Additionally, having a unique and memorable business card can help differentiate oneself in a crowded market. Creativity can be a strength, but it's important to balance it with efficiency. By focusing on content, lead generation, and attracting the right fit for one's business, one can build a strong and qualified investor base.

    • Effective business cards in the form of self-published booksSelf-publishing books in specific niches can establish instant credibility, keep names in minds, and serve as powerful growth tools in various industries, including real estate. Easy to create and distribute with resources like Google, and appealing for online presence building.

      Self-publishing books can serve as effective and cost-efficient business cards that people don't throw away. By focusing on specific niches and publishing valuable content, authors can establish instant credibility and keep their names in potential clients' minds for extended periods. Unlike traditional business cards, books are not easily discarded and can be a powerful tool for growth in various industries, including real estate. Self-publishing platforms and resources like Google make it easier than ever to create and distribute books. Additionally, the increasing trend of digital research and online presence building makes a book an appealing way for people to learn about you without the pressure of direct confrontation.

    • Maximize expenses coverage and scale up investments with house hacking and smart toolsHouse hacking and smart property management tools help cover expenses, ensure thorough tenant screening, and simplify insurance. Focusing on return on equity can lead to significant returns and changes in business trajectory.

      House hacking and smart property management tools can help real estate investors cover their expenses and even fund trips, while ensuring thorough tenant screening. RentReady's new feature, proof of income verification, simplifies the tenant screening process and provides in-depth financial stability checks. Meanwhile, Steadily.com offers fast and affordable landlord insurance, making it easier for investors to protect their properties. Additionally, focusing on return on equity is a powerful way to scale up investments and portfolios. This concept, which took 9 months for the speaker to fully grasp, can lead to significant returns and changes in business trajectory. By considering the cash flow, appreciation, tax benefits, and tenant contributions as the numerator, and the initial investment as the denominator, investors can understand how their returns change over time. This shift in perspective can lead to more informed investment decisions and long-term success in real estate.

    • Analyzing equity and cash flow in real estate investmentsSuccessful real estate investors analyze their investments' equity and cash flow to determine the best time to sell or reinvest, repurpose skills and content to maximize returns, and maintain a mindset of analyzing returns for continued success.

      Real estate investing, particularly in appreciating markets, can yield significant returns over the long term, but it's crucial for investors to analyze their equity and cash flow to determine the best time to reinvest or sell. The speaker shared his personal experience of buying a condo 11 years ago, which appreciated significantly in value and cash flow, allowing him to sell it and reinvest in a more valuable asset. He emphasized the importance of repurposing skills and content to maximize returns, which led him to write about his experience and develop a software platform to help others analyze their real estate investments. The speaker's mindset of repurposing and analyzing returns has been a key pillar of his success in marketing and real estate investing.

    • Identifying profitable niches in real estateFocusing on specific real estate niches can lead to significant financial gains. Look for markets with high demand and potential for greater returns, and consider offering unique services to meet specific market needs.

      Identifying and focusing on specific niches within the real estate market can lead to significant financial gains. The speaker shared an example of how he identified a need for a return on equity analysis service in the Denver housing market and turned it into a successful business. He also shared a personal anecdote about how he applied the concept of return on equity in his own real estate investments, selling a property in a saturated market and using the profit to buy and renovate properties in another market with higher demand and potential for greater returns. This strategy led him to build a portfolio of over 40 properties and generate substantial cash flow and equity growth. The speaker emphasized that while not every investment will yield such exponential results, the key is to take action and be open to new opportunities.

    • Reviewing investment portfolio for optimal returnsRegularly evaluate real estate investments by considering market values, cap rates, and net operating income for informed decisions on selling, extracting equity, or holding.

      Regularly reviewing your investment portfolio, including real estate properties, is crucial for maximizing returns and reaching financial goals. This review should consider current market values, cap rates, and net operating income, not just cash flow or interest rates. By doing so, investors can make informed decisions about whether to sell, extract equity, or hold onto their investments. Regular portfolio evaluations also benefit agents and lenders by creating more transactions and stronger client relationships. It's essential to remember that real estate investments offer long-term benefits, including appreciation and debt paydown, which contribute significantly to overall returns.

    • Real Estate Investing: Building Wealth Amidst InflationBuy below market value, add value through renovations, seek experienced advisors, read 'What Every Real Estate Investor Needs to Know About Cash Flow' for financial knowledge, and prioritize the right team in business growth.

      Real estate investing can lead to significant wealth building through appreciation and value-adding strategies, even during periods of high inflation. The speaker shares his personal experience of tenants paying off $130,000 for a house now worth over $15 million. He emphasizes the importance of buying below market value, adding value through renovations, and applying the knowledge gained from resources like BiggerPockets. He encourages investors to look for experienced advisors who can help them grow their wealth and build a two-way relationship. The speaker's favorite real estate book is "What Every Real Estate Investor Needs to Know About Cash Flow & 36 Other Key Financial Measures" by Frank Gallinelli, which helped him understand advanced financial metrics. His favorite business book is "Good to Great" by Jim Collins, emphasizing the importance of having the right people on your team as your business grows.

    • Surrounding Yourself with the Right Team and Having PatienceSuccessful investors prioritize getting the right people on board, having patience, and ensuring a financial runway for stability in real estate investing.

      Successful investors prioritize getting the right people on board and having patience with a long-term perspective, while also ensuring a financial runway for stability. The book "Who Not How" emphasizes the importance of surrounding oneself with the right team to achieve goals. Real estate investing requires time and dedication, and having patience and a long-term perspective are crucial. Additionally, having a financial runway can alleviate the pressure of immediate financial needs, allowing for more focus on building a larger income. To learn more about Chris Lopez and his approach to real estate investing, check out his videos on the BiggerPockets YouTube channel, specifically the "House Hackers Ride Along" series. You can find him online by searching "Chris Lopez Denver" or "Chris Lopez real estate" on Google.

    • Exploring House Hacking with Chris, David, and RobLearn from successful house hackers Chris, David, and Rob. Stay informed, find an investor-friendly agent, and focus on time in the market for financial freedom.

      House hacking is a powerful real estate strategy for both beginners and experienced investors. Chris from BiggerPockets discussed his successful experience with house hacking and encouraged listeners to check out his content for more information. David Green shared his resources for learning more about real estate and investing, including his YouTube channels and social media accounts. Rob also provided his online presence for those interested. The speakers emphasized the importance of staying informed and active in the market to achieve financial freedom, and encouraged listeners to find an investor-friendly agent through BiggerPockets Agent Finder for guidance and support in their real estate journey. Remember, the best investors focus on time in the market rather than trying to time the market. BiggerPockets.com/deals offers a free resource to help you find the right agent to help you navigate the real estate market and make informed investment decisions.

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