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    Best Of: This Is Your Brain on Deep Reading. It’s Pretty Magnificent.

    enNovember 28, 2023

    Podcast Summary

    • Understanding the Impact of Reading Formats on Our BrainsExpert Marion Wolf highlights the brain's ability to adapt to reading, from ancient times to the digital age, and the importance of developing a 'biliterate brain' to accommodate various formats.

      The way we read and the impact it has on our brains is just as important as what we read itself. Marion Wolf, a leading expert on reading and the brain, argues that our brains have the remarkable ability to create new circuits to accommodate the invention of reading. This is a process that began thousands of years ago and has continued with the advent of digital reading in recent decades. Wolf emphasizes that we're in the midst of another seismic shift in reading, and it's essential to understand how different types of reading affect our minds. She suggests developing a "biliterate brain" that can adapt to various reading formats. Wolf also emphasizes that this doesn't mean going back to a pre-digital reading utopia, but rather embracing the present and future of reading while being aware of its implications.

    • From decoding to deeper understandingReading is a complex process that evolves from decoding letters and words to engaging with texts in deeper, more sophisticated ways, influenced by our environment, educational background, and the medium we use.

      Reading is not a single, straightforward process, but rather a complex and evolving experience. When we first learn to read, we begin with decoding, the basic ability to connect letters and words. However, as we grow and gain more knowledge, our reading abilities expand, allowing us to engage with texts in deeper, more sophisticated ways. This process is continuous and influenced by our environment, educational background, and the medium we use for reading. Plasticity, the brain's ability to adapt and change, plays a crucial role in how we read and what we get out of the texts we encounter. The quality of our attention and the insights we gain are influenced by the medium we use, be it print or digital. Ultimately, the way we read shapes what we learn and understand, making it an essential aspect of the reading experience.

    • The impact of reading medium and habits on comprehensionThe digital medium can lead to shallower understanding due to distractions and skimming habits. To build a habit of deep reading, create a distraction-free environment and focus on the text.

      The way we read and the medium we use to read have a significant impact on our ability to fully comprehend and absorb information. The digital medium, with its affordances of speed and multitasking, can lead to a diminished reading experience and a shallower understanding of texts. This is due to the fact that our attention is constantly being divided and we don't have the same amount of time to process the information as we would with the print medium. However, it's not just the medium that matters, but also the habits and mindsets we develop as readers. With the increasing use of screens for reading, we are developing a habit of skimming, which can make it difficult to fully engage with texts and access the deeper meaning and understanding that comes from focused, distraction-free reading. To build a habit of deep reading, it's important to be intentional about our reading goals and to create an environment that allows us to focus on the text without distractions. As Proust noted, the heart of reading is the place where we go beyond the wisdom of the author and discover our own. So let's make a conscious effort to build a habit of deep reading, whether we're reading on print or digital media.

    • The value of contemplative reading for personal growth and societal progressContemplative reading activates the brain, fosters new connections, and leads to valuable insights for personal growth and societal progress

      The state of deep reflection and insight during quiet, focused reading is essential for personal growth and societal progress. Aristotle identified this as the third essential life, alongside productivity and leisure. From a cognitive neuroscience perspective, reading activates various brain regions, leading to new connections and novel thoughts. The speaker's experience of gaining significant insights during a plane ride is an example of this state. The importance of this contemplative reading experience is often overlooked, and it's crucial for sharing wisdom and fostering new ideas. The speaker's personal experiment with re-reading Hermann Hesse's "Magister Ludi" illustrates how one might struggle to access this state when not fully engaged or prepared. Overall, embracing the value of contemplative reading can lead to valuable insights and a deeper understanding of both ourselves and the world around us.

    • Cognitive Patience in the Digital AgeIn the digital age, cultivating cognitive patience in deep, focused reading and reflection enhances understanding and strengthens critical thinking skills, enabling effective navigation of complex digital information.

      The abundance of information in the digital age has led to a degradation of our reading and critical thinking abilities due to cognitive impatience. The constant bombardment of novelty in the digital world trains our brains to crave and expect it, making it difficult to develop insights and reflect upon information. This, in turn, limits our capacity to discern truth and consider alternative perspectives, making us more susceptible to misinformation and demagoguery. To counteract this, it's essential to cultivate cognitive patience and make time for deep, focused reading and reflection. This not only enhances our understanding of the material but also strengthens our critical thinking skills, enabling us to navigate the complexities of the digital world more effectively.

    • Impact of screens on children's cognitive development and attention spanExcessive screen use, driven by novelty bias, can negatively impact children's focus skills and cognitive development. Parents and educators should limit screen time and provide alternative activities.

      The excessive use of screens and novelty, driven by the novelty bias, can negatively impact children's cognitive development and attention span. This is due to the hyperstimulation of their developing brains, which can make it difficult for them to focus on non-screen activities for extended periods. The entertainment industry, driven by profit motives, uses techniques similar to those used in gambling to keep children engaged and addicted to screens. Parents and educators need to be aware of this and take an active role in limiting screen time and providing alternative, engaging activities to help children develop healthy attention and focus skills. The consequences of this issue extend beyond just children, as adults are also affected by the constant bombardment of novelty and distraction in our digital age.

    • The impact of parents' screen use on children's developmentParents' distracted screen use can negatively affect children's learning and development by disrupting their attention and modeling inattention. Interactive activities like reading can enhance children's language and cognitive skills, but constant screen availability and consumption methods can hinder these benefits.

      The way we engage with media, particularly screens, impacts not only children but also parents. When parents are distracted by their own screens, it can disrupt their ability to fully engage with their children during activities like reading. This disrupted attention can have negative effects on children, as they learn by imitating the behaviors of those around them. Research shows that when parents read to their children, the language regions of the brain are activated more strongly than when the story is presented through audio or animation. This interactive nature of reading requires the use of language knowledge and background knowledge, leading to greater concentration and attention. However, the constant availability of screens and the novelty they offer can make it difficult for parents to fully engage in less stimulating activities with their children. This can result in a constant model of inattention and distraction, which can negatively impact children's development. Additionally, the way we consume media on screens, such as scrolling and scanning, can change the reading experience. While we may be reading more words than ever, the way we consume them can impact comprehension and retention. It's important for parents to be aware of these effects and make a conscious effort to model good uses of technology and time for their children.

    • Impact of digital reading on comprehensionDigital reading impacts comprehension negatively due to skimming and lack of physical connection, but offers advantages like search and highlight features.

      The way we read digitally, through skimming, scanning, and scrolling, impacts our ability to comprehend and retain information effectively. When we read digitally, we tend to focus on the surface level of the text, missing out on important details and the ability to monitor our comprehension. This is due in part to the speed at which we read digitally and the lack of a physical connection to the text. However, digital text also offers advantages such as the ability to easily search and highlight text, making it valuable for reference and research. Ultimately, we may be in a transitional period where we are still learning how to effectively navigate and utilize digital text, and it's important to recognize both its advantages and limitations. As McCloughan and his mentor Walter Ong have noted, technology and media shape the way we engage with information, and it's up to us to adapt and make the most of these new tools.

    • Navigating the Transition from Orality to Digital CultureEmbrace the process of reading and cultivate habits of mind for effective engagement with texts, regardless of medium. Value feelings and emotions as forms of knowledge and dedicate daily time for focused reading.

      We are living in a transitional period between orality and digital culture, and it's essential to understand what we are disrupting or diminishing as we expand our use of technology. The problem isn't about orality versus illiteracy, but figuring out how to navigate both worlds. We should focus on building habits of mind, specifically reading habits, that we can use purposefully, regardless of the medium. The metaphor of the "matrix Jack theory of learning," where we instantly acquire knowledge, may not be the most helpful. Instead, we should value the process of reading and the states of mind we cultivate through the time spent engaging with texts. We need both heart and brain, as the feelings and emotions elicited by reading are a form of knowledge. To rediscover deep reading skills, consider implementing "bookends" to your day – starting and ending with dedicated reading time.

    • Daily deep reading practice for peace and restorationSet aside time for undistracted book engagement, fosters peace and prepares mind for day. Encourage biliterate brain for children with print-rich environment and digital media supplement.

      Cultivating deep reading as a daily practice involves setting aside time, ideally at the beginning or end of the day, for undistracted engagement with books or other forms of imaginative media. This practice helps prepare the mind for the day ahead and provides a sense of peace and restoration at the end of the day. The specifics of this practice may vary from person to person, and the goal is not necessarily to adhere strictly to a bookending routine, but rather to find a secret corner in the day to refine the mind and remember one's best self. Additionally, the idea of encouraging a biliterate brain, which refers to the ability to read and understand both digital and print media, is another important consideration for fostering a love of reading and learning in children. This involves surrounding them with a print-rich environment in their early years and using digital media as a supplement, rather than a replacement, for print materials.

    • Exploring the benefits of print and digital media for deep readingChildren should use a mix of print and digital materials for literacy and empathy development. Adults can optimize digital reading by taking notes and understanding its purpose, while books like 'Gilead', 'Mindset', and 'The Element' offer deep explorations of human emotions and continuous learning.

      Both print and digital media have their unique benefits for deep reading, and they should not be seen as competing but complementary. For children, it's essential to encourage deep reading skills, empathy, and literacy through a combination of print and digital materials. For adults, understanding the purpose of digital reading and consciously taking notes can help maximize the benefits and minimize distractions. Regarding books, Marilyn Robinson's "Gilead" is a top recommendation for its beautiful storytelling and deep exploration of human emotions. Another suggestion is "Mindset" by Carol Dweck, which emphasizes the importance of having a growth mindset for continuous learning. Lastly, "The Element: How Finding Your Passion Changes Everything" by Ken Robinson encourages readers to discover their unique talents and pursue them wholeheartedly.

    • The Power of Literature to Influence and InspireMarilyn Robinson's deep understanding of Emily Dickinson left a lasting impression. Gish Jen's humor and wit highlighted universal human goals. Wendell Berry's contemplative essays offered balance between beliefs and interconnectedness. Literature broadens horizons, challenges beliefs, and brings understanding.

      The profound impact and influence of various authors on the speaker's life and perspective. The speaker shared personal experiences with Marilyn Robinson, Gish Jen, and Wendell Berry, highlighting their unique abilities to inspire and provoke thought. Marilyn Robinson, with her profound understanding of Emily Dickinson, left a lasting impression on the speaker. Gish Jen, despite writing about dystopia, infused her work with humor and wit, and helped the speaker appreciate the universality of human goals despite cultural differences. Wendell Berry, with his contemplative essays, offered a balance between standing firm in one's beliefs and the interconnectedness of all things. The speaker also mentioned her love for Middlemarch and Mary Anne Wolf's Reader Come Home. Overall, this conversation underscores the power of literature to broaden our horizons, challenge our beliefs, and bring us closer to understanding the complexities of the world and ourselves.

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    ‘Artificial Intelligence?’ No, Collective Intelligence.

    ‘Artificial Intelligence?’ No, Collective Intelligence.

    A.I.-generated art has flooded the internet, and a lot of it is derivative, even boring or offensive. But what could it look like for artists to collaborate with A.I. systems in making art that is actually generative, challenging, transcendent?

    Holly Herndon offered one answer with her 2019 album “PROTO.” Along with Mathew Dryhurst and the programmer Jules LaPlace, she built an A.I. called “Spawn” trained on human voices that adds an uncanny yet oddly personal layer to the music. Beyond her music and visual art, Herndon is trying to solve a problem that many creative people are encountering as A.I. becomes more prominent: How do you encourage experimentation without stealing others’ work to train A.I. models? Along with Dryhurst, Jordan Meyer and Patrick Hoepner, she co-founded Spawning, a company figuring out how to allow artists — and all of us creating content on the internet — to “consent” to our work being used as training data.

    In this conversation, we discuss how Herndon collaborated with a human chorus and her “A.I. baby,” Spawn, on “PROTO”; how A.I. voice imitators grew out of electronic music and other musical genres; why Herndon prefers the term “collective intelligence” to “artificial intelligence”; why an “opt-in” model could help us retain more control of our work as A.I. trawls the internet for data; and much more.

    Mentioned:

    Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt” by Holly Herndon

    xhairymutantx” by Holly Herndon and Mat Dryhurst, for the Whitney Museum of Art

    Fade” by Holly Herndon

    Swim” by Holly Herndon

    Jolene” by Holly Herndon and Holly+

    Movement” by Holly Herndon

    Chorus” by Holly Herndon

    Godmother” by Holly Herndon

    The Precision of Infinity” by Jlin and Philip Glass

    Holly+

    Book Recommendations:

    Intelligence and Spirit by Reza Negarestani

    Children of Time by Adrian Tchaikovsky

    Plurality by E. Glen Weyl, Audrey Tang and ⿻ Community

    Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.

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    The Ezra Klein Show
    enMay 24, 2024

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