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    Beyond Mere Politeness — The Art of True Civility

    enOctober 11, 2023

    Podcast Summary

    • The Soul of Civility: Understanding the importance of treating others with respect and dignityCivility goes beyond politeness and manners; it's about treating others with respect and dignity, even when it means being impolite for the greater good of relationships and society.

      Civility goes beyond politeness and manners. It's about sacrificing the self for the betterment of society and relationships. Author Alexandra Hudson, in her book "The Soul of Civility," shares her experience growing up with a mother who embodied civility and taught her that manners are an outward expression of inner character. However, Hudson's experience in government exposed her to two extremes: those who were hostile and those who were polite but manipulative. Both extremes, she realized, instrumentalized others and saw them as means to their own ends. Hudson argues that true civility requires treating others with respect and dignity, even if it means being impolite at times to uphold integrity and good governance. Ultimately, civility is essential for democracy and ensuring that citizens can check each other and govern themselves.

    • Breaking rules of etiquette for civilityCivility is an internal disposition of respecting others as moral equals, and sometimes being impolite is necessary to uphold this principle. Manners and etiquette can facilitate social interactions, but they are not sufficient to heal deep divisions and promote flourishing. Be mindful of using politeness to belittle others and cultivate civility instead.

      While manners and politeness are important, they are not enough to promote civility and respect in our deeply divided society. Civility is an internal disposition of respecting others as moral equals, and sometimes being impolite is necessary to uphold this principle. Queen Victoria's act of breaking the rules of etiquette to make her guests feel comfortable illustrates this concept. Manners and etiquette can facilitate social interactions, but they are not sufficient to heal deep divisions and promote flourishing. Additionally, politeness can be used as a tool to belittle others, and we must be mindful of this. Ultimately, we need to cultivate the disposition of civility to truly respect and connect with others.

    • Rules of propriety and class consciousness maintain power dynamicsBe aware of how rules and class consciousness are used to maintain power and focus on important conversations and respecting others.

      The rules of propriety and class consciousness are used to maintain power dynamics in society. The middle class, who are often the most insecure, use these rules to assert their self-righteousness and feel superior to others. However, these rules can also be used to silence and exclude those who don't conform. Throughout history, the elites have invented new rules and fashions to distinguish themselves from the rest of society. For example, the pineapple, once a symbol of luxury and status, is now a common symbol of hospitality. It's important to be aware of how these rules are used to maintain power and to focus on having important conversations and respecting others, rather than getting bogged down in trivial rules and infractions.

    • The weaponization of norms: From pineapples to Labor DayHistorically, norms have been used to confer status and distinguish insiders from outsiders, but their exclusivity can lead to incivility. It's crucial to distinguish between civility and politeness, focusing on respecting others as moral equals for human flourishing.

      Throughout history, certain symbols and rules have been used to confer status and distinguish insiders from outsiders, leading to the weaponization of norms. The pineapple is an example of this, where its exclusivity made it a status symbol during English history, but once it became more accessible, it lost its allure. Similarly, the rule against wearing white after Labor Day originated from the desire of old moneyed classes to distinguish themselves from the new moneyed classes during the Gilded Age in America. This tension between self-love and the desire to belong can lead to incivility, as seen in the story of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, where an individual's repressed desires eventually overtake them. Ultimately, it's essential to distinguish between civility, which respects others as moral equals, and mere politeness, as we strive to create norms that contribute to human flourishing and the good life.

    • Ancient Egyptian text on civility emphasizes balance between self and groupAncient texts on civility emphasize the importance of kindness, respect, and avoiding gossip for maintaining balance between self and group, highlighting the timeless nature of human relationships.

      The balance between self and group is crucial for civility and human flourishing. Indulging too much in selfish desires can lead to incivility and tension within groups. The ancient Egyptian text, "Teachings of Patahotap," one of the oldest civility manuals, emphasizes the importance of kindness, respect for others, and avoiding gossip. Throughout history, this balance has been a recurring theme in various civility handbooks, highlighting the timeless nature of the human condition and the need for wisdom to navigate the complexities of human relationships.

    • The Importance of Civility and Etiquette Throughout HistoryCivility and etiquette have been essential for peaceful coexistence and social order since ancient times. They require putting others before ourselves and exercising self-control for the greater good.

      The concept of civility and etiquette has been a long-standing issue throughout history, from ancient civilizations like Egypt and Greece to medieval periods, the Renaissance, and modern-day America. The underlying principle is to put others before ourselves and harness our selfish desires to help the social order flourish. Confucianism, for instance, emphasizes the importance of humaneness, benevolence, and doing the right thing for the situation. The need for etiquette manuals emerged during the Renaissance as the implementation of democracy required self-control for it to function effectively. Manners serve as the regular exercise that keeps people's self-control muscle in shape, allowing for peaceful coexistence and the functioning of a well-governed society.

    • The importance of the horizontal social contract in upholding the formal social contractSocial norms and respect among citizens form an essential horizontal social contract that complements the formal social contract and enables society to function effectively.

      The formal social contract, which establishes laws and regulations, relies on an informal horizontal social contract between citizens. This horizontal contract, governed by social norms and respect for one another, is essential for the formal social contract to function effectively. The earliest example of positive law, the Hammurabi Code, was likely enacted in ancient Babylon due to a decline in social norms or as a power play by the sovereign to establish authority and protect citizens. The horizontal social contract, with its unspoken and often unwritten rules, is just as important as the vertical social contract between citizen and sovereign in enabling society to flourish and move beyond a state of nature.

    • The role of societal norms and civility in limiting government powerSocietal norms and civility are crucial in preventing the need for excessive government intervention. Individuals play a key role in maintaining order and enforcing manners, reducing the need for formal laws.

      The norms and civility of a society play a crucial role in limiting the power of the government. The laws enacted by governments, such as those of Hammurabi, could have been driven by the need to prevent rampant theft or to consolidate power. The informal codes of conduct that exist outside the law are essential in keeping individuals in check, but there are instances when governments attempt to enforce manners through laws. However, such attempts are often met with resistance and ineffectual. It is up to individuals to consider the needs and well-being of others and exercise self-control. When others fail to do so, it can lead to a need for greater governance. The example of Larry David from the show "Curb Your Enthusiasm" illustrates the importance of calling out social infractions and enforcing civility, even when it is uncomfortable or inconvenient. Ultimately, the less individuals rely on external enforcement of manners, the less the state needs to intervene.

    • Maintaining social order and personal integrity through civilityCivility is crucial for holding individuals accountable, allowing democracy to flourish, and cultivating inner virtues. It's essential for building and maintaining healthy relationships and a functioning society.

      Civility plays a crucial role in maintaining social order and personal integrity. As illustrated in the story about Larry David, it's important for individuals to hold each other accountable for their actions and behavior, even if it means calling out unacceptable conduct. Civility also allows democracy to flourish without government intervention and helps us cultivate inner virtues by aligning our outer actions with our inner disposition. The story of The Happy Hippocte highlights how even a person with a vicious nature can transform into a virtuous one by assuming a virtuous persona. Overall, civility is essential for building and maintaining healthy relationships and a functioning society.

    • The importance of extending kindness to strangersExtending kindness and generosity to those in need, regardless of social status or ability to repay, benefits both the giver and receiver and reveals true character.

      The ancient art of hospitality, as illustrated in the Odyssey, offers valuable lessons on cultivating civility and kindness towards others, even towards strangers or those in need. The story of Eumaeus and Odysseus in disguise highlights the importance of extending kindness and generosity to those in greater need, regardless of their social status or ability to repay. This act not only benefits the recipient but also reveals the true character of the giver. Reviving this ancient practice can help bridge gaps and foster a more civil and compassionate society.

    • Ancient Values of Hospitality: Comfort, Gratitude, and Ethical StandardsAncient hospitality emphasized comfort, gratitude, and ethical standards for both host and guest, recognizing the mutual vulnerability and potential rewards of extending kindness to strangers.

      Hospitality, as depicted in ancient texts like the Odyssey and Thousand and One Nights, was a highly valued expression of civility and generosity towards strangers. This value was essential in ancient times when travel was difficult and dangerous, and people relied on the kindness of strangers to survive. The concept of hospitality, known as zenia in Greek culture, required both the host and the guest to uphold certain ethical standards. The host was expected to make the guest feel comfortable, while the guest was expected to show gratitude and respect. Despite the risks involved in welcoming strangers, hospitality could lead to beautiful experiences and strong connections. However, it's important to remember that hospitality also carries a dual potential outcome, as the Latin root of hospitality is hospice, which is also the root of hostility. The ancient Greeks recognized this mutual vulnerability and shared fate in the guest-host relationship. Modern-day skepticism towards hospitality stems from this historical context, but the potential rewards of extending kindness and generosity to strangers can be great. The stories of Rousseau and David Hume illustrate the dual potential outcomes of hospitality, as Rousseau, known for his volatile nature, was once saved by the kindness of David Hume, who took him in despite the risks.

    • The vulnerability of hospitalityHospitality carries risk, but magnanimous hosts can create positive ripple effects despite potential harm

      Hospitality, while beautiful and bonding, carries an inherent risk. As seen in the story of Rousseau and David Hume, even the most generous and thoughtful hosts can face unforeseen consequences when their guests become unhinged or suspicious. This vulnerability requires courage and magnanimity from the host, who must extend hospitality despite the potential for harm. The story also highlights the potential for one person's magnanimous actions to create a positive ripple effect, or a "malefluous echo," across time and place. Ultimately, the guest-host relationship is a delicate balance, requiring mutual respect, trust, and understanding to flourish.

    • Every interaction is an opportunity to make a differenceWe have the power to create positive ripples in the world through our interactions, and the cumulative effect can have a profound impact on individuals and society.

      Each of us has the power to create positive ripples in the world through our interactions with others. People like Alexandra's grandmother, who radiated joy and kindness, left a lasting impact on those around them. Every interaction is an opportunity to make a difference, and the cumulative effect of these interactions can have a profound impact on individuals and society as a whole. We can choose to be part of the solution by focusing on the good we can do, or contribute to the problem through thoughtlessness or malice. By striving to be magnanimous souls, we can create a brighter and better world for all. To learn more about this concept and how to apply it to your life, check out Alexandra Hudson's book, "The Soul of Civility," available on Amazon.com and her website, alexandraohudson.com.

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