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    Bruce Friedrich On The Clean Meat Revolution

    enNovember 05, 2018

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    • A future of efficient and sustainable food productionBruce Friedrich envisions a future where everyone is well-fed, educated, and has access to healthcare, achieved through a shift towards plant-based and clean meat, which are more efficient and sustainable than traditional animal agriculture.

      The future of food production is focused on finding efficient and sustainable ways to feed the growing population while addressing climate change. Bruce Friedrich, a leading innovator in food systems and policy, envisions a future where everyone is well-fed, educated, and has access to healthcare. He believes that this future includes a shift towards plant-based and clean meat, which are more efficient and have a smaller carbon footprint compared to traditional animal agriculture. The Good Food Institute, an organization he leads, is dedicated to replacing animal products with plant and cultured-based alternatives. This transition not only addresses ethical concerns but also presents an opportunity for a more sustainable and ethical food system. The adoption of these innovations may seem science fiction-like, but they are indeed happening and will play a significant role in shaping the future of food production.

    • Advancing Plant-Based and Clean Meat IndustriesThe Good Food Institute is driving progress in plant-based and clean meat industries by connecting scientists, market players, and academia, expanding their team, and offering the first college courses on clean meat.

      The Good Food Institute (GFI) is leading a multi-pronged approach to advancing the plant-based and clean meat industries. Their recent conference brought together various sectors and industries, including scientists and current market players, to network, coordinate, and innovate. The conference was a success in connecting these groups, and GFI is now focusing on creating a pipeline of scientists from the therapeutics industry to apply their knowledge to plant-based and clean meat research. Additionally, GFI is expanding its team and offering the first college courses on clean meat at universities like Berkeley, Stanford, and Penn State. The subject matter is multidisciplinary, involving various fields such as science, policy, and networking with big corporations. Overall, GFI's efforts aim to accelerate the growth of plant-based and clean meat industries by fostering cooperation and collaboration among various sectors and industries.

    • Understanding Plant-Based and Clean Meat ProductionPlant-based meat requires optimization of crops and processing to mimic meat's taste and texture, which can be made from various plant sources. Clean meat involves growing animal cells in bioreactors, which has cross-applicability and can be made from various sources, including pea protein.

      To fully grasp the concepts of plant-based and clean meat production, it's essential to understand various aspects of biology, engineering, and food production. While plant-based meat can be made from plants, which contain all the necessary constituents like lipids, proteins, and minerals, creating it requires optimization of crops and figuring out how to process them to mimic meat's taste and texture. Clean meat, on the other hand, involves growing animal cells and putting them into bioreactors, which has cross-applicability from therapeutics and tissue engineering. Pea protein has been a popular choice for plant-based meat, but other sources like lupine, lentils, oats, and even potatoes are being explored. The future of meat production lies in optimizing these sources and creating efficient, less expensive alternatives to traditional meat.

    • Exploring Untapped Potential of Plant-Based ProteinsUniversities and the meat industry invest in plant-based protein sources, worth $3.7B and growing, with potential to replace traditional meat sources by 2050.

      There is vast potential for plant-based protein sources to be explored and developed into plant-based meat alternatives, with 92% of such plants yet to be examined. Universities, particularly those with strong agricultural, tissue engineering, or biochemistry departments, are encouraged to invest in this area. The meat industry, which aims to provide high-quality protein to people inexpensively, is generally receptive to this shift towards plant-based and clean meat production. This sector is experiencing significant growth, with the plant-based food industry valued at $3.7 billion and growing at 17%, and plant-based meats growing at 23%. The goal is to make plant-based and clean meat the primary sources of protein production, with a trajectory that could see these sources accounting for 100% of the market by 2050. Bill Gates and other influential investors have already shown their support for this transition, and major food chains are starting to adopt plant-based meat alternatives. The potential for this shift is immense, and it's only a matter of time before plant-based and clean meat become the norm in the food industry.

    • The demand for plant-based meat alternatives exceeds current supplyPlant-based alternatives to meat are in high demand, but the current supply cannot keep up. Animal agriculture contributes significantly to climate change and requires vast resources, making the shift towards plant-based foods crucial for sustainability.

      The demand for plant-based alternatives to traditional meat products, such as the Impossible Burger and Beyond Burger, far outpaces the current supply. Major food chains are eager to meet this demand, but are unable to do so due to supply chain constraints and the need for greater production capacity. From a sustainability perspective, the shift towards plant-based foods is crucial as animal agriculture contributes significantly to climate change. The process of raising crops to feed animals for human consumption is vastly inefficient, requiring 9 calories of crops to produce just 1 calorie of meat. This results in a large carbon footprint due to the increased land, water, and energy requirements. The meat industry is responsible for approximately 13.5% of all climate change, making it an area of urgent attention for those seeking to reduce their carbon footprint.

    • Animal agriculture contributes to over 50% of global greenhouse gas emissionsAnimal agriculture is a major contributor to greenhouse gas emissions and deforestation, requiring large resources for small food output. Meat alternatives aim to address this by providing affordable and accessible options.

      The meat industry is a major contributor to environmental issues, with animal agriculture being responsible for more than 50% of global greenhouse gas emissions, according to some reports. This is due in part to the inefficiency of livestock production, which requires large amounts of resources to produce a relatively small amount of food. For example, it takes 25 calories of input to produce just one calorie of beef. Additionally, the meat industry is a leading cause of deforestation, water pollution, and other environmental problems. On a per calorie basis, eating meat, particularly beef, produces significantly more climate change than plant-based alternatives. Despite this knowledge, meat consumption continues to rise, making it a significant challenge to reduce its environmental impact. Companies producing plant-based alternatives are attempting to address this by providing consumers with meat and dairy alternatives that are more affordable and accessible, in the hope that this will lead to a shift in consumption patterns.

    • Transforming the market for healthier and sustainable food choicesInvestment and regulatory support for plant-based and clean meat alternatives are driving innovation and competition, making these options more affordable, convenient, and desirable for consumers, ultimately capturing a significant portion of the $200 billion US meat market.

      The key to encouraging healthier and more sustainable food choices lies not in education, but in leveraging market forces and food technology to incentivize companies to innovate and create products that are affordable, convenient, and tasty for consumers. The focus is on transforming the market, rather than trying to change individual habits. This approach is gaining traction, with a surge in venture capital investment and regulatory support for plant-based and clean meat alternatives. Companies, both old and new, are responding to the competition by increasing their innovation efforts. The ultimate goal is to capture a significant portion of the $200 billion US meat market, making these alternatives a viable and desirable choice for consumers. For individuals, the recommendation is simply to try these new options and enjoy the taste and potential benefits for the planet and personal health.

    • Meat Industry Disrupted by Plant-Based and Clean Meat TechnologiesTyson, the second largest meat company, invests in plant-based and clean meat technologies to increase efficiency, reduce external costs, and meet demand for sustainable food sources. Clean meat is created by growing animal cells in nutrients, resulting in a purer food with fewer resources used and no food poisoning concerns.

      The meat industry is facing disruption as companies invest in plant-based and clean meat technologies to become more efficient, reduce external costs, and meet the growing demand for sustainable food sources. Tyson, the second largest meat company in the world, has already made significant investments in these areas. Clean meat is created by taking a biopsy of an animal, growing cells in nutrients, and using a scaffold or simulated skeleton for structure. The process results in a purer food with fewer resources used and no intestinal tract-related food poisoning concerns. This method is more efficient than traditional farming, which involves raising animals and dealing with their waste. Companies like Tyson see the potential to feed the world higher quality protein at a lower cost and make more money by embracing these new technologies.

    • Antibiotic overuse in farm animals leading to superbugsAntibiotic resistance from farm animals could cause 10M deaths, $100T in costs by 2050. Urgent investment in research and development of alternatives needed.

      The overuse of antibiotics in farm animals, particularly in countries like China where they are used excessively, is leading to the development of antibiotic-resistant superbugs. These superbugs pose a significant threat to human health, with estimates suggesting that 10 million people could be dying from superbugs per year by 2050, costing the global economy $100 trillion. This issue is not getting the attention it deserves, and resources need to be allocated towards finding solutions, such as investing in research and development of plant-based and clean meat alternatives. The good news is that this is a solvable problem, and with significant investment and collaboration, we can make a difference in reducing the main cause of antibiotic resistance and improving overall food safety and sustainability.

    • Investing in clean meat research for sustainable and ethical meat solutions$3M investment from The Good Food Institute for research grants and fellowships in clean meat technology to advance sustainable and ethical meat solutions, encourage top scientists and business minds to focus on the field, and lead to breakthroughs in growing meat from cells, creating media for cell growth, and scaling up bioreactors.

      The field of clean meat, or lab-grown meat, is still in its infancy with around 30 companies worldwide, many of which are protecting their intellectual property. However, there is a pressing need for more investment in academic research to advance the technology and make it more accessible. The Good Food Institute (GFI) is working to catalyze this by dedicating $3 million for research grants and fellowships, and encouraging top scientists and business minds to focus on this field. This investment could lead to breakthroughs in growing meat from cells, creating media for cell growth, and scaling up bioreactors. The ultimate goal is to provide sustainable and ethical meat solutions to address global food security and animal welfare issues. The field is rapidly growing, with GFI expanding its team and increasing its strategic focus. For those interested in contributing to this exciting and important field, job opportunities and fellowships are available at GFI's website.

    • Leading organization in alternative protein industry prioritizes hiring good people and creating meaningful work environmentThe Good Food Institute, a leading organization in the alternative protein industry, is prioritizing hiring dedicated individuals and creating a meaningful work environment to bring clean meat to the market within 3-5 years, but faces talent and funding challenges

      The Good Food Institute (GFI) is a leading organization in the alternative protein industry, known for its rigorous hiring process, which attracts dedicated and purpose-driven individuals. Bruce Friedman, the founder, prioritizes hiring good people and creating a meaningful work environment. The team at GFI is making significant strides in bringing clean meat to the market, with estimates suggesting it could be commercially available to consumers at reasonable prices within 3-5 years, and at very low prices within 10 years. However, the main bottlenecks are not technological but rather talent and funding. The cultural acceptance of alternative proteins is also a hurdle, as people find it difficult to accept the concept of eating meat that doesn't come from animals. Despite these challenges, the industry is growing rapidly, with companies like Beyond Meat and Impossible Foods experiencing significant sales growth. If governments invest more in this technology, it could accelerate the timeline.

    • The Shift Towards Clean Meat: 70% Would Consider Switching70% of people consider trying clean meat, 50% would make it permanent due to animal welfare, sustainability, and health concerns. Historical advancements suggest apprehensions may fade as tech spreads.

      The shift towards clean meat, which is grown directly from animal cells without the need for animal slaughter, is gaining significant momentum. According to early polling, approximately 70% of people would consider making the switch, and 50% would do so permanently. This trend is driven by concerns about animal welfare, environmental sustainability, and health concerns related to traditional meat production. However, there are also apprehensions regarding the potential use of genetic engineering and long-term health effects of clean meat. The comparison to historical technological advancements, such as in vitro fertilization and the transition from ice harvesting to ice making, suggests that these concerns may eventually be alleviated as the technology becomes more widespread and accepted. Overall, the potential market for clean meat is vast, with current sales representing only a fraction of 1% of the overall meat market.

    • Founders of plant-based and clean meat companies aim to make a difference in the worldFounders of plant-based and clean meat companies prioritize transparency and consumer understanding, aiming to create positive change through taste-identical or better, price-competitive alternatives to traditional meat and dairy production, despite resistance from dairy producers and ongoing labeling debates.

      The founders of plant-based and clean meat companies, like Memphis Meats, Impossible Foods, and JUST, are driven by a desire to make their lives meaningful and create positive change in the world. They prioritize transparency and consumer understanding, contrasting with historical meat and dairy production methods protected by ag gag laws. These technologies, once price-competitive and taste-identical or better, are expected to significantly impact the industry. The main resistance comes from dairy producers, who fear for their livelihoods, but the companies argue that these alternatives will create better farming livelihoods. The ongoing battle is over labeling, with the industry seeking to prevent clear labeling of plant-based and clean meat products.

    • Government support needed for farmers to adapt to plant-based farmingGovernment programs are essential to help farmers adapt to new farming practices and crops as the agricultural industry shifts towards plant-based proteins. Controversies over labeling plant-based products add to the challenges, but can lead to more companies entering the market.

      The agricultural industry is undergoing a significant shift towards plant-based and alternative protein sources, driven by consumer demand and environmental concerns. However, this transition can be challenging for farmers, particularly those reliant on monocropping. To help facilitate this change, there is a need for government-funded programs to train and support farmers in adapting to new farming practices and crops. Additionally, the labeling of plant-based products as meat or milk has been a contentious issue, with some industries pushing for stricter regulations. Missouri recently passed a law banning plant-based companies from using meat terminology on their packaging, which is being challenged in court on constitutional grounds. The irony lies in the fact that these industries claim to want consumers to know the origin of their food, but have historically lobbied against transparency. The legal battles surrounding labeling are not new, with Hampton Creek (now Just Mayo) facing a similar lawsuit from Unilever over the use of the term "mayonnaise." Ultimately, these legal battles have often resulted in negative publicity for the opposing parties and have led to more plant-based companies entering the market. In conclusion, the agricultural industry's shift towards plant-based proteins presents opportunities and challenges, and it is crucial for governments to support farmers in this transition while ensuring fair labeling practices.

    • Collaborating with food industry giantsWorking with food industry leaders can lead to more effective and efficient production of plant-based and clean meat, reducing animal agriculture's environmental impact and promoting ethical food production.

      Collaboration and cooperation with the food industry giants, rather than disrupting them, can lead to more effective and efficient production of plant-based and clean meat. This approach acknowledges that these companies are not necessarily the enemy but are also striving to provide high-quality food to people in a profitable and sustainable way. The idea is to view them as partners in the transformation of the food industry, rather than adversaries. This strategy aligns with the long-term goal of reducing animal agriculture's environmental impact and promoting ethical food production. As Martin Luther King Jr. adopted nonviolence as a moral imperative, rather than a tactic, the collaboration with food industry leaders can be seen as an absolute moral imperative for success. This approach also allows these companies to make a larger impact on the food industry from within, compared to the influence individual vegans may have.

    • Approaching conversations with empathy and compassionEffectively creating change requires empathy, understanding, and framing the conversation as beneficial for all parties involved, rather than through confrontation.

      Effective change in areas like food production and industry can be achieved by approaching conversations at a human level, with humility and compassion, rather than through confrontation. This approach, as demonstrated by the speaker's experience working with corporations and attending the Nantucket Project conference, can lead to more productive and positive outcomes. It's important to understand and empathize with others' perspectives, even if they are polarizing figures or hold opposing viewpoints. This approach not only benefits interpersonal communication but also helps in creating transformative change in various spheres, including the vegan movement and politics. Additionally, framing the change as beneficial for all parties involved, including financially, can make the conversation more persuasive and easier to engage in. The regulatory landscape for food production and industry may present challenges, but approaching these conversations with empathy and understanding can lead to smoother progress.

    • Regulating Clean Meat: FDA vs USDAThe FDA and USDA are debating regulatory authority over clean meat production, with the FDA currently leading safety testing and the USDA pushing for production and labeling oversight. Congress could intervene, and involving other agencies like the EPA in research funding could be beneficial.

      The regulatory landscape for clean meat, a promising technology for creating sustainable and ethical food alternatives, is complex and evolving, particularly in the United States. While the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) both have a role to play in regulating clean meat, there is ongoing debate over which agency should take the lead. The FDA has asserted its authority, but the USDA and cattle ranchers also want a role. A dual authority from both agencies is a possibility, with FDA handling safety testing before market and USDA regulating production and labeling. Congress could also intervene and dictate the outcome. The National Academies of Sciences has encouraged the government to use the current regulatory regime and fund open source research to support the development of clean meat. Additionally, involving other agencies like the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) in funding research could be beneficial due to the broader implications of clean meat beyond food safety. The US food system can be confusing, and it's essential to understand the roles and motivations of different government organizations in regulating clean meat.

    • Government-funded checkoff programs face challenges from plant-based and clean meat industriesCheckoff programs, funded by sales from beef, dairy, and cheese industries, face controversy for promoting entire industry at expense of smaller producers. Plant-based and clean meat companies, like Beyond Meat and Good Catch, are growing and improving products to compete, leading to industry shift.

      The checkoff programs, which are government-administered initiatives funded by a percentage of sales from industries like beef, dairy, and cheese, are controversial due to their promotion of the entire industry at the expense of smaller producers. These programs, which include entities like the American Egg Board and the American Dairy Council, have been involved in legal disputes over consumer protection laws and transparency. Meanwhile, the plant-based and clean meat industries are experiencing significant growth, with companies like Beyond Meat, Field Roast, and Good Catch leading the way. These companies, some of which have received support from organizations like the Good Food Institute, are improving their products and marketing to compete with traditional meat companies. Good Catch, a plant-based seafood company started with the help of the Good Food Institute, is set to release its products by the end of the year. Overall, the food industry is seeing a shift towards plant-based and clean meat alternatives, with traditional meat companies and government-funded entities facing challenges from these innovative startups.

    • Plant-based food industry's growth with cellular productsCompanies like Wicked Healthy, Perfect Day, Clara Foods, and Jeltor are innovating with cellular products to create meat, dairy, and egg alternatives, but require funding and skilled workforce, which GFI is addressing through fellowship programs.

      The plant-based food industry is experiencing significant growth, particularly in the areas of meat and dairy alternatives. Companies like Wicked Healthy, Perfect Day, Clara Foods, and Jeltor are leading the way in creating cellular products, which involve isolating proteins rather than growing cells, to produce meat, dairy, and egg alternatives. However, the production of these products requires genetic modification and a skilled workforce, making funding and talent acquisition major hurdles. The Good Food Institute (GFI) is addressing this by launching fellowship programs at top universities to develop the next generation of scientists and engineers for this sector. With continued innovation and investment, plant-based meat and dairy are poised to disrupt traditional food markets and offer sustainable, ethical, and delicious alternatives.

    • Join The Good Food Institute's Mission to Create a Sustainable Food SystemThe Good Food Institute is hiring for various roles and encourages donations, awareness-raising, and advocacy to support their goal of creating a sustainable food system with plant-based and clean meat as a foundation by 2050.

      The Good Food Institute (GFI) is calling for talented individuals to join their mission to create a sustainable, plant-based and clean meat food system. GFI is actively hiring in various departments and encourages those with scientific, legal, marketing, and extroverted skills to get in touch. For those unable to join the workforce, other ways to contribute include donating funds, raising awareness, and advocating for government support. The ultimate goal is to create a world where everyone is well-fed, educated, and has access to healthcare, with plant-based and clean meat as a foundation for meeting basic physiological needs. By supporting GFI's mission, we can work towards a future where everyone can reach self-actualization by 2050. To learn more about opportunities and upcoming events, sign up for the GFI newsletter or follow Bruce Friedrich on Twitter and LinkedIn.

    • Advocating for Plant-Based Eating with Bruce Friedrich and Good Food InstituteBruce Friedrich advocates for plant-based eating for personal health and the planet. Connect with him and the Good Food Institute on social media. Simplify meal planning with Rich Roll's Plant Power Meal Planner. Support the podcast and tune in next week.

      Bruce Friedrich, the executive director of the Good Food Institute, advocates for plant-based eating for personal health and the planet. You can connect with him and the organization on social media channels like Twitter (@brucegfriedrich and @goodfoodinst) and Instagram (@goodfoodinstitute). For those looking to simplify plant-based meal planning, check out Rich Roll's Plant Power Meal Planner at meals.richroll.com, offering customized recipes, grocery lists, and customer support for just $1.90 a week with a yearly subscription. To support the podcast, share episodes, subscribe, leave reviews, and consider becoming a patron at patreon.com/richroll. The team behind the show includes Jason Camiello, Blake Curtis, Margo Lubin, and David Khan. Tune in next week for another inspiring conversation.

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