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    Declassifying America’s Best Kept Secrets with with Matthew Connelly

    enJanuary 02, 2023

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    • U.S. Classification System: More Than Just SecretsThe U.S. classification system involves complex levels of secrecy and compartmentalization, with the president holding sovereignty over the process.

      The concept of classification in the United States government involves more than just keeping information secret. It's a complex system with different levels of secrecy and compartmentalization. Those with top-secret clearances may not have access to all top-secret information due to the need-to-know principle. Even high-ranking officials may not be aware of all the secrets within their government. The president holds sovereignty over the system and can decide what is classified and when it should be declassified. This hierarchical system ensures that only those who need to know have access to sensitive information.

    • The Evolution of Classification in US HistoryFrom Ben Franklin to Mint Mobile, the concept of classification has evolved significantly, from protecting secrets for national security to using LinkedIn for hiring and affordable wireless plans.

      The history of classification in the United States government is complex and has evolved significantly over time. Initially, protecting secrets was seen as necessary for national security, with figures like Ben Franklin and George Washington engaging in espionage and information protection. However, after the American Revolution, the US did not have a central intelligence agency or a culture of secrecy, with Congress and the executive branch openly sharing information. This changed during times of war, when the need for intelligence gathering and protection became more pressing. However, the American people have historically resisted the idea of a permanent, secretive intelligence apparatus, as seen in the opposition to the Alien and Sedition Acts. Today, we have a more nuanced approach to classification, with some information being kept secret for national security reasons while other information is openly shared. For businesses, LinkedIn is a valuable tool for hiring professionals, as over 70% of its users don't visit other leading job sites. And for those looking for affordable wireless service, Mint Mobile is offering a significant discount on its unlimited plan, bringing the price down from $30 to $15 a month.

    • Government Surveillance in the US: A Long HistoryFrom the Red Scare to J. Edgar Hoover, government surveillance in the US has a long history, with presidents often using it to gain power and make decisions without accountability, even when it was illegal.

      The history of government surveillance in the United States can be traced back to the early days of the federalist government, when laws were put in place to prevent American citizens from supporting foreign causes and entangling the country in foreign wars. However, these laws were later relaxed during times of perceived national security threats, such as the Red Scare following World War 1 and the period leading up to World War 2. J. Edgar Hoover, the head of the Federal Bureau of Investigation during this time, was known for conducting widespread political surveillance and even intercepting communications, despite it being illegal. Presidents were often aware of and even appreciated this information, as it gave them a significant source of power and allowed them to make decisions without accountability. Despite the illegality of these actions, they continued in secret due to the president's ability to classify information as a matter of national security and the unwillingness of the courts to challenge this classification.

    • Consequences of Overclassification and Excessive SecrecyOverclassification and excessive secrecy have led to denial of important info to public, settlements with less compensation, and a broken system that's impossible to protect vital info, resulting in massive leaks

      The overclassification and excessive secrecy of information, as seen in cases like Reynolds versus the United States and Korematsu, have led to significant consequences, including denial of important information to the public and settlements with less compensation than deserved. These cases set precedents for the government to classify information and prevent judges from accessing it, even when it later turned out that the information contained no national security risks. The consequences of these actions can be far-reaching, affecting the lives of thousands of people. The system, intended to protect sensitive information, has grown out of control, making it impossible to protect truly vital information and leading to leaks on a scale never seen before. With over 4 million people having security clearances, managing the amount of information being protected becomes a daunting task, and the system is broken down at every step.

    • Hacking and leaks pose risks to individuals and democratic accountabilityThe release of classified information through hacking and leaks can put people at risk, compromise government's ability to protect sensitive info, and create accountability issues. Complex classification process raises concerns about transparency and potential misuse.

      The release of classified information through hacking and leaks, such as the diplomatic cables leak by Chelsea Manning and Julian Assange, poses significant risks to individuals and democratic accountability. The information, once leaked, becomes accessible to anyone, putting people at risk and compromising the US government's ability to protect sensitive information. The process of classifying and declassifying information is complex, with the ultimate authority resting with the president. However, the day-to-day work is done by various government agencies, and the lack of transparency in this process raises concerns about accountability and the potential for misuse of information. Additionally, the proliferation of leaked information and the destruction or hiding of other information can create a situation where officials are accountable to no one. Furthermore, the use of technology and the increasing ease of hacking and leaking information have amplified these risks. It is crucial that steps are taken to address these challenges and ensure the protection of sensitive information while maintaining democratic accountability.

    • The Complex and Costly Process of Protecting Top Secret InformationApprox. 3,000 individuals can classify new info as top secret, leading to exponential growth & high costs for gov't protection. Reform needed for balance.

      The process of classifying and protecting top secret information in the U.S. is a complex and costly endeavor. Approximately 3,000 individuals have the authority to classify new information as top secret, and many more have access to this information and create related classified material. The exponential growth of derivative classification has led to an overwhelming amount of classified information, costing the government billions of dollars annually to protect. The process of releasing this information to the public is also complicated and time-consuming, with only a small fraction of the budget being spent on declassification. History reveals that people and governments have kept many secrets, some of which were never truly secret and involved questionable practices. The system is broken, and root and branch reform is needed to strike a better balance between protecting national security and being accountable to the American people.

    • Bureaucratic norms and over-classification create false impression of secrecyMany classified documents contain publicly known information, wasting resources and creating a false impression of secrecy

      The classification of information as secret in government often has more to do with bureaucratic norms and protecting mundane or uninteresting information than with concealing truly sensitive or dangerous material. Many classified documents contain information that was already publicly known, and the delay in declassifying such information is often due to the default practice of over-classification. The most closely guarded secrets, such as those related to nuclear and cyber weapons, are held for decades. This over-classification not only wastes resources but also creates a false impression of secrecy and mystery. The public, including journalists and researchers, often contribute to this impression by hyping the supposedly top-secret nature of information. In reality, much of what is classified is not as significant or newsworthy as it may initially seem.

    • Manipulating public fear for gainHistorically, governments and militaries have used fear to secure funding and power, sometimes by exaggerating or fabricating threats. Presidents have control over secrecy but must follow proper procedures.

      Throughout history, there have been instances where the military or government have attempted to manipulate public fear for their own gain, often by exaggerating or fabricating threats. This was discussed in relation to Hollywood scripts about alien invasions and the military's history of creating panic to secure more funding. However, the speaker also suggested that some of the biggest secrets in Washington might not be secret at all, but rather concealed for convenience. Changing the topic, the speaker discussed the process of declassifying documents during the Trump administration, noting that Trump was the first president since FDR not to issue an executive order on the handling of classified information, meaning he was still operating under Obama-era rules. The speaker emphasized that while presidents have sovereignty over secrecy, they cannot do whatever they want without following proper procedures.

    • Presidential Records Handling by Trump and ClintonBoth Trump and Clinton had distinct methods for handling presidential records, but transparency and accessibility are crucial for historical accuracy.

      Both former Presidents Trump and Clinton had unique handling methods of presidential records, with Trump taking documents to Mar-a-Lago and Clinton allowing her lawyers to decide which emails to keep. However, the importance of preserving these records for historical purposes was emphasized. The ongoing debate around the classified information surrounding JFK's assassination highlights the significance of transparency and accountability in government. Despite promises from recent presidents to declassify these records, they remain sealed, leaving the public wondering what information is being withheld. Ultimately, it is crucial for the American people to advocate for the preservation and accessibility of these records to ensure a complete and accurate historical record.

    • US government's long-standing reluctance to release sensitive infoDespite advancements in technology, the US govt continues to withhold sensitive info related to cyber weapons, nuclear weapons, surveillance, and intelligence sources and methods, fueling conspiracy theories

      The recently declassified JFK documents suggest that the US government has a long-standing reluctance to release information related to national security, particularly concerning cyber weapons, nuclear weapons, surveillance, and intelligence sources and methods. This reluctance has continued even under the administrations of Donald Trump and Joe Biden. The NSA and other intelligence agencies have likely been working to prevent the release of such information for decades. The use of methods and informants that are still sensitive even today continues to fuel conspiracy theories. However, advancements in technology and data analysis, such as using machine learning algorithms with massive amounts of declassified documents, can help reveal what was once hidden. It's important to continue this research and not solely rely on government officials to release information.

    • The value of maintaining connectionsCherish existing relationships and look forward to making new ones, whether in person or virtually, as we explore, learn, and grow.

      Our conversation today emphasized the importance of continuity and looking forward to future interactions. We discussed various topics, from technology and innovation to personal experiences and future plans. However, the underlying theme that emerged was the value of maintaining connections and the anticipation of meeting again. Whether it's in person or through virtual means, the human need for social interaction and the formation of meaningful relationships remains a constant. As we go about our daily lives, let us remember to cherish the connections we have and look forward to the opportunities to make new ones. So, until we meet again, keep exploring, learning, and growing.

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