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    Frank Slootman - Narrow the Focus, Increase the Quality - [Invest Like the Best, EP. 265]

    enFebruary 22, 2022

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    • Focus on the work when evaluating a teamInspecting the work is crucial for making quick decisions about a team. If the work is not functioning well, make changes, and if it is, embrace the people to avoid wasted time and lost opportunities.

      When evaluating a team in a new company, it's essential to focus on the work rather than the people. Frank Slootman, the CEO of Snowflake, emphasizes that inspecting the work is the key to making quick decisions about the team. If the work is not functioning well, it's a sign to make changes, and if it is, it's a reason to embrace the people. Waiting things out or avoiding the inevitable can lead to wasted time and lost opportunities. When taking over a company, especially in a crisis situation, it's necessary to move quickly and make decisions based on imperfect information. The TIGUS platform, a sponsor of this episode, empowers investors and corporate development teams to make smarter decisions by providing high-quality content and data.

    • Making tough decisions in leadershipGather info, interview, speak with colleagues, conduct thorough background checks, be proactive, informed, decisive, foster growth through confrontation

      Effective leadership involves making tough decisions quickly and decisively, even if it means removing people from their roles or bringing in new executives. The speaker emphasizes the importance of gathering as much information as possible before making these decisions, and suggests that interviews alone are not enough. Instead, speaking with colleagues and conducting thorough background checks are crucial for assessing potential hires. The speaker also emphasizes the importance of confrontation in leadership, viewing it as a normal and necessary aspect of the role. However, he stresses that confrontations should be productive and handled in a way that fosters growth and improvement within the organization. Overall, the speaker's advice emphasizes the importance of being proactive, informed, and decisive in leadership roles.

    • Strive for constant improvement and high expectationsTo grow and succeed, be dissatisfied with the status quo, confront issues, raise the bar, recruit top talent, and maintain personal energy levels.

      Constant improvement and high expectations are essential for growth and success in business. The speaker emphasizes the importance of being dissatisfied with the status quo and always striving for better. This mindset leads to confronting issues and raising the bar, rather than tolerating mediocrity. Recruiting top talent is crucial, and transparency about culture is key to attracting the right people. The speaker also shares the importance of understanding and addressing personal energy levels to maintain intensity and leadership effectiveness.

    • Pressure and motivation evolve in different business stagesFrank Slootman's leadership style at Snowflake is shaped by experiences at Data Domain and ServiceNow, prioritizing lateral communication and fostering a culture of debate and innovation to stay focused on goals.

      The nature of pressure and motivation in business evolves throughout different stages of a company's growth. For the founder of Snowflake, Frank Slootman, his experiences at his previous companies, Data Domain and ServiceNow, shaped his approach to leadership and communication in his current role. At Data Domain, the pressure was high due to the start-up nature and lack of resources. At ServiceNow, the pressure came from leading a company that had already crossed the chasm and faced new challenges. At Snowflake, Frank prioritizes lateral communication and fosters an environment where people are encouraged to debate and challenge ideas, ensuring the organization stays focused on its goals and remains "dazzling" in its innovation.

    • Focusing on a few key priorities for greater successAdopting a startup mindset with a clear focus on priorities, learning from mistakes, and choosing the right customers can lead to greater success for organizations of all sizes.

      Adopting a startup mindset and focusing on a few key priorities can lead to greater success and efficiency for organizations, even for larger companies like Snowflake. The speaker emphasizes the importance of identifying the most crucial thing to focus on and narrowing the "plane of attack," as opposed to spreading resources too thin. This mindset allows for clarity and better decision-making when it comes to allocating resources. Additionally, the speaker highlights the importance of learning from mistakes and being open to being wrong, as well as the impact of choosing the right customers early on in the product development process. The example of Capital One illustrates how a dazzling customer can help shape a product and provide valuable insights and guidance.

    • Balancing customer feedback and company visionSuccessful tech companies listen to customers but don't let them dictate solutions. They understand problems and offer innovative answers, earning trust through clear communication and consistent actions.

      Successful companies in the tech industry, particularly in the realm of banking like Snowflake, understand the importance of both listening to customers and maintaining a strong point of view. While it's crucial to gather customer feedback and address their needs, it's equally important not to let them dictate the solution. Instead, companies should aim to understand the problem at hand and offer innovative solutions. Trust between the company and its customers is essential in this process, and it's earned through consistent, high-fidelity communication and actions. Snowflake's approach is a balance between listening to customers and maintaining a strong vision, inspired by pioneering digital banks and traditional institutions alike.

    • Building Trust in Business RelationshipsFollow through on commitments, prioritize the other party's interests, and be transparent to build trust in business relationships. Avoid one-off deals that harm integrity and maintain trust through consistent actions and clear communication.

      Trust is a valuable and delicate currency that exists in every aspect of life. It is earned through consistent actions and clear intentions, and it can be easily lost. Trust is especially important in business relationships, where it can impact negotiations, pricing, and overall success. To build trust, it's essential to follow through on commitments, have the other party's best interests at heart, and be transparent. In business negotiations, it's crucial to be transparent about pricing and avoid one-off deals that could harm the integrity of your business. Building trust takes time and effort, but it is worth it for the long-term success of any relationship. Additionally, trust can be lost in an instant, so it's essential to maintain it through consistent actions and clear communication. Overall, trust is a crucial element of any successful business or personal relationship.

    • Prioritizing sequentially for better performanceFocusing on one task at a time can lead to increased trust, improved performance, and a more effective organization by avoiding becoming 'mile wide and inch deep', utilizing resources efficiently, and fostering open dialogue between business and engineering teams.

      Focusing on sequential effort rather than parallel processing can help build trust and improve the overall performance of a business. By prioritizing singularly and completing tasks one at a time, organizations can avoid becoming "mile wide and inch deep," which can lead to lower standards, shortcuts, and a cluttered workload. This approach allows for better use of resources and a clearer understanding of priorities, leading to increased efficiency and productivity. Additionally, the gap between business and engineering teams has narrowed over time, as business leaders have become increasingly technical. This shift has led to a more balanced environment where both sides can effectively communicate and make decisions based on their unique expertise. By fostering open dialogue and collaboration between these teams, organizations can better leverage technology to drive business growth. Overall, the principles of prioritizing sequentially and bridging the gap between business and engineering can lead to increased trust, improved performance, and a more effective organization.

    • IT and Business Relationship for Modern Enterprise SuccessEffective sales systems and organizations are crucial for scaling a business. Sales is a scalable, repeatable process, while business development is one-off. Intellectual honesty and ability to distinguish reality from desire are essential for business success.

      The relationship between IT and business is essential for a modern enterprise's success. IT provides the technology foundation, while the business grows and becomes more technologically sophisticated. Effective sales systems and organizations are crucial for scaling a business. Founders may struggle to admit when their product isn't viable, and it's important to distinguish between business development and sales. Sales is a scalable, repeatable process, while business development is one-off. Compensation plays a role in maximizing a sales organization's performance. Companies that master their sales capabilities and distribute their products through their own channels can gain a significant competitive advantage. The speaker emphasizes the importance of intellectual honesty and the ability to distinguish reality from desire when building a business.

    • Mastering Your Own Distribution is Key to Business SuccessEffective sales efforts require mastering distribution, understanding sales stages, structuring sales teams with combat units, and allocating resources wisely.

      Mastering and controlling your own distribution is crucial for business success. Companies that do so have the potential for significant growth and ownership of their own destiny. Conversely, relying on others for distribution can be detrimental. Sales is a critical aspect of any business, and understanding the different stages of a company's growth and the corresponding sales strategies is essential. The sales organization's structure should be tailored to the specific product and company, with a focus on the foundational elements of a sales team: combat units (direct reps and first-line managers). Thoughtful consideration and adequate resources are necessary when adding new team members. Ignoring these principles can lead to ineffective sales efforts and failed regions.

    • Learning from past successes and failures to growGrowth is crucial but blindly copying past successes isn't effective. Understand your business's unique circumstances and challenges to achieve growth.

      Blindly following a playbook or formula for success is not effective in business. The founders of Data Domain learned this the hard way when they tried to replicate their previous success at a new company by hiring the same people and doing things the same way. However, growth is crucial for companies to thrive and gain a competitive edge. It's essential for leaders and CEOs to ask questions about growth strategies and consider the limits and possibilities of growth. In high-growth companies, sales productivity should decrease as resources are poured into hiring and expansion. By pushing these boundaries and exploring growth limits, companies can learn how to move those boundaries and continue to grow at impressive rates, like Snowflake. It's important to remember that every company is unique, and a one-size-fits-all approach won't lead to success. Instead, understanding the specific circumstances and challenges of your business is key to achieving growth.

    • Embracing a growth mindset and disciplined approach for business scaleTo achieve significant business scale, focus on consistent performance, productivity, and continuous improvement, especially in talent acquisition and development. Break the competition's will to fight by attracting top talent.

      A growth mindset and disciplined approach are essential for businesses aiming for significant scale. The speaker emphasizes the importance of consistent performance and productivity, regardless of external circumstances. He believes that growth is not a mystery but a mechanical process that can be improved upon. The analogy of business as war highlights the competitive nature of markets, where companies must constantly fight to survive and grow. The speaker advocates for defining victory as breaking the competition's will to fight, which can be achieved by attracting top talent. Despite past successes, the speaker remains focused on continuous improvement, particularly in the area of talent acquisition and development.

    • The importance of taking chances on talentHiring the right talent and taking risks on individuals can lead to exceeding expectations and business success.

      Talent is the lifeblood of an enterprise and cannot be overlooked. Mediocre people cannot run companies and survive in the competitive business world. The speaker, who faced challenges in his career due to being a foreigner with unfamiliar credentials, emphasized the importance of taking chances on people and the impact it can have on their careers. The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him was hiring him, allowing him to exceed expectations and fully utilize his natural abilities. Talent and the willingness to take risks on individuals are crucial for business success.

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    My guest today is Nico Wittenborn. Nico is the founder of Adjacent, a venture firm that looks for what he describes as the “adjacent possible” for their next investment. Nico has zoned in on the consumer subscription market as his ideal candidate, making early investments in Calm App, Photoroom, and Oura Ring. Nico does virtually all steps of the investing process on his own as he believes this allows him to be as close to finding the truth as possible. We discuss sharpening your intuition, evaluating the subscription business model, and exploring the adjacent possible. Please enjoy this conversation with Nico Wittenborn.  Listen to Founders Podcast For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here. ----- This episode is brought to you by Tegus, the only investment research platform built for the investor. With traditional research vendors, the diligence process is slow, fragmented, and expensive. That leaves investors competing on how well they can aggregate data — not on their unique ability to analyze insights and make great investment decisions. Tegus offers an end-to-end platform with all the data you need to get up to speed on a company or market: up-to-the-minute financials, customizable models, management and culture checks, and, of course, our vast and growing library of expert call transcripts. Tegus is changing the world of expert research. Learn more and get your free trial at tegus.com/patrick. ----- Invest Like the Best is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Invest Like the Best, visit joincolossus.com/episodes.  Past guests include Tobi Lutke, Kevin Systrom, Mike Krieger, John Collison, Kat Cole, Marc Andreessen, Matthew Ball, Bill Gurley, Anu Hariharan, Ben Thompson, and many more. Stay up to date on all our podcasts by signing up to Colossus Weekly, our quick dive every Sunday highlighting the top business and investing concepts from our podcasts and the best of what we read that week. Sign up here. Follow us on Twitter: @patrick_oshag | @JoinColossus Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). Show Notes: (00:00:00) Welcome to Invest Like the Best (00:03:30) Intuition in Investment Decisions (00:05:08) The Philosophy of Adjacency in Venture Capital (00:12:51) Exploring Consumer Subscription Models (00:18:16) Common Mistakes In Subscription Pricing (00:22:41) Errors in Product Roll-Out Strategy (00:28:50) The Sucess of BirdBuddy (00:33:45) What It Means To Be a Great Product (00:38:21) Solo Investing vs. Being Part of a Big Firm (00:43:12) Building On Your Own Experience As a Founder (00:44:49) The Rise of Individual Investors and Their Impact (00:50:52) The Strategic Advantage of Staying Small in Venture Capital (00:52:02) Deep Dive into Founder Questions and Consumer Subscription Insights (00:54:09) Leveraging AI and Technological Advances for Growth (00:59:13) Exploring Future Investments and Market Opportunities (01:05:13) Areas to Explore On The Value Curve For Consumer Subscription  (01:12:32) Advice For Those Interest In Nico’s Path  (01:20:10) The Kindest Thing Anyone Has Ever Done for Nico

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    We are excited to share a great conversation with Mitch Rales, the co-founder of Danaher and one of the living legends in the world of business and investing. Consider that Danaher has annualized at over 21% for four decades, resulting in an 1800-times multiple on invested capital! This is Mitch's first long-form interview of any kind, and he covers his entire history and business philosophy. Interviewing Mitch are Paul Buser and Rick Buhrman, who host the Art of Investing podcast on the Colossus network. Please enjoy this comprehensive discussion with Mitch Rales. Listen to more Art of Investing. For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here. ----- This episode is brought to you by Passthrough. If you've ever filled out a subscription document to invest in a fund or worked with LPs to fill out their docs to invest in your fund, you know what a nightmare this exercise can be. Passthrough finally solves this problem. They configure custom workflows for your electronic subscription agreements and KYC & AML requirements to shrink the time for your investors to complete their sub docs. It's the best way to manage a critical part of your relationship with your LPs and is simply a drastically better experience for both investing firms and LPs alike. To learn more, go to passthrough.com. This episode is brought to you by Tegus, the only investment research platform built for fundamental investors. Whether you’re trying to get up to speed on a new market or keep tabs on a portfolio company, Tegus is the end-to-end investment research platform you need. With Tegus, you can quickly understand a company's business model, drivers, benchmarks, and management quality. To monitor an entire market, download our pre-built financial models — or update your own with the latest data using Tegus’ new Excel Add-In. Tegus gives you all of this and more, all bundled into a single software license. Find out why 95% of the top 20 global private equity firms are Tegus customers. Learn more and get your free trial at tegus.com/patrick. ----- Art of Investing is a property of Pine Grove Studios in collaboration with Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Art of Investing, visit joincolossus.com/episodes.  Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). Show Notes (00:00:00) - Welcome to The Art of Investing (00:05:32) - The Philosophy Behind Glenstone's Creation (00:12:57) - Benchmarking and Continuous Improvement: Lessons from Danaher and Glenstone (00:21:22) - The Influence of Mitch’s Father and Upbringing (00:28:43) - Transforming Danaher During The George Sherman (00:30:39) - Embracing Long-Term Vision and Patience (00:36:47) - The Role of Leadership in Navigating Change (00:42:21) - Danaher's Evolutionary Journey: From 1.0 to 4.0 (00:56:37) - Building a Culture of Internal Growth and External Innovation (00:58:42) - The Art of Successful Acquisitions and Integration Strategies (01:03:03) - Seeking Leadership Qualities and Business Traits for Long-Term Success (01:06:14) - The Journey from Personal Experience to Philanthropy (01:13:10) - Investment Philosophy: Concentration vs. Diversification (01:29:46) - Operational Expertise as a Catalyst for Company Growth (01:34:17) - Identifying and Supporting Talent in Business (01:43:02) - The Impact of Secular Trends on Long-Term Investments (01:49:53) - Revitalizing the Washington Commanders (01:57:36) - Engaging with Fans and Building a Winning Culture (02:05:16) - The Importance of Long-Term Vision

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