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    How The West Brought War To Ukraine with Benjamin Abelow

    enMay 10, 2023

    Podcast Summary

    • US and NATO policies provoked Russia's invasion of UkraineAbloh's book argues that Western promises and actions since the 1990s led to the conflict in Ukraine, questioning the use of military force and the importance of seeking peace

      Benjamin Abloh's book, "How the West Brought War to the Ukraine," provides a compelling argument against US and NATO policies leading to harm in Ukraine, Europe, the US, and the global south. The book, which has been endorsed by numerous experts, has been a bestseller and translated into multiple languages. Abloh, who previously worked in Washington D.C. and has a background in modern European history and medicine, argues that the invasion of Ukraine by Vladimir Putin was provoked by provocations from the West dating back to the 1990s, specifically the promise made to the Soviets that NATO would not expand eastward beyond Germany. The book raises important questions about the use of military force and the obligation to seek alternatives to war, especially when it comes to conflicts that will result in the deaths of innocents.

    • U.S. promised not to expand NATO during Cold WarDespite verbal assurances to the contrary, NATO expanded eastward in the late 1990s and early 2000s, causing geopolitical tensions with Russia that persist today.

      During the end of the Cold War, there were verbal assurances given by high-ranking American officials to Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev that NATO would not expand eastward. These assurances were not formally documented but were detailed in declassified documents and scholarly analyses. However, despite these assurances, NATO expanded in the late 1990s and early 2000s, leading to tension and conflict with Russia. This expansion was opposed by many experts and political figures at the time who warned of the negative consequences for US-Russia relations. Despite these warnings, NATO continued to expand, leading to significant geopolitical tensions that persist to this day.

    • Historical context and perceived threats led to Russian aggressionRussia's historical experiences and perceived threats from US and NATO actions towards Ukraine and Georgia contributed to its aggression, highlighting the importance of understanding historical context for peace

      The actions of the US and NATO towards Ukraine and Georgia in recent years, such as bringing them closer to the alliance, were perceived as a threat and a red line by Russia due to its history of invasion and massive loss of life during World War II. The withdrawal of the US from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty in 2001 was also seen as provocative and contributed to an arms race. These actions, from Russia's perspective, were highly provocative and could have been seen as cause for war if they had been directed towards the US. Understanding the Russian perspective and considering the historical context is crucial for making peace and avoiding conflict.

    • Historical events shaping Russia's perception of threatsUnderstanding historical contexts and how they're perceived by opposing sides is crucial for avoiding potential conflicts and promoting peace. Russia perceives NATO's military exercises and expansion as provocations due to past experiences like the Cuban Missile Crisis.

      Historical events, such as the Cuban Missile Crisis and NATO expansion, have significantly shaped Russia's perception of potential threats and their response to them. The Cuban Missile Crisis served as a reminder of the devastating consequences of nuclear war and the importance of diplomacy. However, Russia views actions like NATO's military exercises and expansion as provocations that could lead to conflict. For instance, the US rocket exercises in Estonia and the announcement of Ukraine and Georgia's potential NATO membership were perceived as threats to Russia's security, leading to military responses. Understanding these historical contexts and considering how they are perceived by the opposing side is crucial for avoiding potential conflicts and promoting peace.

    • NATO expansion and Russian tensionsNATO's expansion into former Soviet states, particularly Georgia and Ukraine, fueled Russian concerns and escalated tensions, as Russia perceived it as a threat. Military exercises and security arrangements near Russia's border further eroded trust.

      The expansion of NATO into former Soviet states, particularly in the cases of Georgia and Ukraine, played a significant role in escalating tensions between the West and Russia. The historical context of close Russian ties in regions like Georgia and the conduct of US military exercises there just weeks before Georgian attacks on South Ossetia, contributed to Russia's perception of a threat. Fiona Hill, a well-known expert on Russia, acknowledged that Russia's decision not to invade Ukraine in 2008 was due in part to Ukraine's decision to pull back from joining NATO. Despite earlier promises not to expand NATO beyond its current borders, the organization now includes 13 former Soviet satellite states. The military exercises carried out by these countries near Russia's border further eroded trust and potentially provoked Russia. A more nuanced approach to security arrangements could have taken into account Russian security needs and avoided re-drawing the lines between the West and Russia.

    • Tensions between NATO and RussiaThe expansion of NATO into Eastern Europe and external influences have fueled tensions between NATO and Russia, increasing the risk of conflict.

      The expansion of NATO into Eastern Europe and the historical tensions between some European nations and Russia have led to a more antagonistic posture towards Russia from NATO. This, in turn, has fueled provocative actions and statements from some NATO members, increasing the risk of a direct conflict between NATO and Russia. Additionally, the role of external actors, such as the United States, in influencing political developments in countries like Ukraine, can exacerbate tensions and lead to unintended consequences. For instance, the U.S. funding of democracy promotion efforts in Ukraine, which some view as a CIA front, contributed to the overthrow of a pro-Russian government and fueled tensions with Russia. These complex dynamics highlight the need for careful consideration of the potential consequences of foreign policy actions and the importance of diplomacy in managing international conflicts.

    • Ukrainian far-right's role in Maidan events and 'sniper's massacre'The Ukrainian far-right played a significant role in Maidan events, but the extent of US government support is unclear. The 'sniper's massacre' was a false flag attack led by far-right groups, resulting in numerous deaths. It's crucial to remember the complex history and the majority of Ukrainians sought peace.

      The Ukrainian far-right ultranationalist groups, such as Svoboda, played a significant role in the Maidan events and the final ejection of Yanukovych, despite the popular uprising being financed and supported by the United States. However, it's unclear to what extent these groups were directly supported by the US government. The events culminated in the "sniper's massacre," where most of the killings were carried out by the Ukrainian far-right under the control of the Maidan leadership. This false flag attack led to the deaths of dozens of Ukrainian protesters and police. Despite their past involvement in the killing of many Poles and Jews, some of these radical nationalist groups continue to have cultural resonance within parts of the Ukrainian population. It's essential to acknowledge this complex history and remember that the vast majority of Ukrainians wanted peace, as evident in Zelensky's election with a 70% majority on a peace platform.

    • US involvement in Ukraine's political upheavalThe US significantly influenced Ukraine's political shift towards far-right policies, leading to conflict with Russia over the Donbas region, causing concerns about encirclement and national security.

      The US played a significant role in the political upheaval in Ukraine in 2014, which led to the country adopting far-right policies and ultimately contributed to the war with Russia over the Donbas region. The US was deeply involved in handpicking the new government and implementing policies, effectively making Ukraine a client state. Victoria Nuland's phone call, where she expressed support for a particular prime minister, is an example of this involvement. Russia perceived these actions as a US attempt to establish a sphere of influence and military presence on its border, leading to deep concerns about encirclement and national security. The US Navy's maneuvers in the Black Sea and the potential establishment of NATO bases further fueled these fears, ultimately prompting Russia's invasion of Crimea.

    • Historical tensions between Russia and NATOTensions between Russia and NATO have escalated due to perceived security threats, annexation of Crimea, US withdrawal from nuclear treaty, and NATO's stance on Ukraine's membership.

      The tensions between Russia and NATO have deep historical roots and have escalated due to perceived security threats and actions taken by both sides. The annexation of Crimea was seen as a response to the overthrow of a Russian-backed government in Ukraine and the subsequent moves by the US and NATO to arm and bring Ukraine up to NATO standards. The withdrawal of the US from the Intermediate Range Nuclear Forces Treaty and NATO's reaffirmation of Ukraine and Georgia's eventual membership further escalated tensions. The ethnic Russian population in the Donbas region of Ukraine has been a source of division and conflict, with the situation worsening after the overthrow of Yanukovych. Despite Russia's calls for negotiation, the US refused to engage on the issue of NATO expansion into Ukraine, leading to the invasion of 2014.

    • Ukraine's Complex Conflict: Ethnic, Linguistic, and Political TensionsThe conflict in Ukraine's Donbas region stems from linguistic, ethnic, and political tensions, with concerns over language rights, autonomy, and sovereignty leading to violence and Russian intervention.

      The events leading to the conflict in the Donbas region of Ukraine were complex and multifaceted, involving linguistic, ethnic, and political tensions. Many Ukrainians speak both Ukrainian and Russian, and there are distinct groups of ethnic Russians within Ukraine. The overthrow of Yanukovych led to concerns among Russian speakers and ethnic Russians, particularly in the eastern Donbas region, due to the removal of Russian as an official language. Protests against the new government turned violent, resulting in the deaths of 49 people in Odessa, with little accountability for the perpetrators. The Ukrainian government's response, perceived as an anti-terrorist operation, further fueled fears among the ethnic Russian population. Despite some desires for autonomy or even separation, Russia sent troops to intervene, ultimately seeking a federal structure that would preserve language and culture within Ukrainian sovereignty. The far right in Ukraine opposed this idea, leading to a complex and ongoing conflict. Understanding this background is crucial for Americans to appreciate the complexity of the situation in Ukraine.

    • US Role in Escalating Russia-Ukraine ConflictThe US's interference in Ukraine's conflict with Russia led to a devastating war, resulting in over 100,000 deaths and 300,000 injuries, potentially preventing a peaceful resolution and Ukraine's neutrality.

      The US played a significant role in the escalation of the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, which has resulted in a devastating war with substantial human casualties and displacement. US officials publicly threatened the end of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, and the US and UK reportedly sabotaged peace negotiations after the war began. If a compromise had been reached, Ukraine could have remained neutral and avoided joining NATO, potentially preventing the war. The consequences of this conflict have been catastrophic, with estimates suggesting over 100,000 deaths and 300,000 injuries. The US's actions contributed to this tragic outcome.

    • Ukraine Conflict: A Complex IssueThe Ukraine conflict involves geopolitical interests, human rights, ethnic tensions, and is complicated by opposition to peace agreements and suppression of opposition media and parties.

      The conflict in Ukraine is a complex issue with multiple factors at play, including geopolitical interests, human rights, and ethnic tensions. Russia's involvement is not solely driven by a desire to expand its influence, but also to protect ethnic Russians in the region. The Minsk Accords, which could have provided a framework for peace, were not implemented due to opposition from the Ukrainian far-right, the US, and former Ukrainian President Poroshenko. The situation is further complicated by the outlawing of opposition media and parties, making it difficult to understand the true desires and motivations of the Ukrainian population. Ultimately, the conflict is a tragic and bloody mess, with innocent lives being lost, and the humanitarian situation is a cause for concern. The situation is not as simple as portraying it as an unprovoked Russian invasion or an American-backed fight for Ukrainian independence.

    • Minsk agreements and their potential impact on Ukraine's conflictThe Minsk agreements could have prevented the ongoing war in Ukraine, but their absence allowed for Russian intervention and potential escalation to a larger conflict, including the possibility of nuclear weapons involvement, emphasizing the importance of diplomacy and agreement adherence.

      The Minsk agreements, had they been implemented, could have prevented the ongoing war in Ukraine between Russia and Ukraine. Merkel and Hollande's actions leading up to the conflict are unclear, but the absence of the agreements allowed for Russian intervention in the Donbas region, resulting in a devastating war. Furthermore, the situation could potentially escalate further with recent events such as the drone attack on the Kremlin and Russia's accusations of US involvement. A study by the RAND Corporation also warns of the potential for the conflict to escalate into a larger war, even involving nuclear weapons, and emphasizes that it is not in the US interest to have a long-lasting conflict. Overall, the situation highlights the importance of diplomacy and adherence to agreements in preventing conflicts and their potential escalation.

    • The Ukraine conflict's global implicationsThe Ukraine crisis, fueled by nuclear-armed powers, poses a grave danger to global stability and civilization. Benjamin Abalo's book sheds light on the crisis' origins and the urgency for change.

      The ongoing conflict in Ukraine poses a grave danger not just to Ukrainian lives and territory, but to global stability and potentially even civilization itself. With both Russia and the United States possessing enough nuclear weapons to destroy life on Earth multiple times over, the risk of nuclear war is a terrifying reality. The situation is a result of the actions of those in power, who have led us to this point and continue to deceive the public about the truth. Benjamin Abalo's book, "How the West Bought Ukraine," provides valuable insight into the origins of this crisis and the urgency of the situation. It's a must-read for anyone looking to understand the situation and advocate for change. The stakes are high, and the consequences of inaction could be catastrophic.

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