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    Howard Behar: Former Starbucks President Reveals How Starbucks Grew to 15,000 Stores | E272

    enFebruary 12, 2024

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    • Listening to customers and prioritizing human connectionFocusing on people and relationships can lead to remarkable business success, even when faced with challenges

      Focusing on people and building strong relationships with customers can lead to remarkable business success, as demonstrated by Howard Schultz and Starbucks. Despite initial resistance to offering a product like the Frappuccino, Schultz and his team ultimately recognized the importance of listening to their customers and prioritizing the human connection. This servant leadership approach, which values employees and customers equally, contributed significantly to Starbucks' growth from a small company to a global phenomenon. Even when faced with challenges during expansion, Schultz remained committed to putting people first. This lesson can be applied to businesses of all sizes and industries.

    • The power of helping others without expecting anything in returnLearning to help others without expecting anything in return can lead to personal fulfillment and success. Some people, like the speaker's father, have taught this valuable lesson through acts of kindness and the law of reciprocity.

      Helping others and not expecting anything in return can have a profound impact on both the giver and the receiver. The speaker learned this valuable lesson from his father, who ran a mom-and-pop grocery store and treated his customers as friends. The father would sometimes give them fruit without charging them, teaching the speaker that not everything in life needs to be monetized. This philosophy, known as the law of reciprocity, has stayed with the speaker throughout his life and has been a source of personal fulfillment and success. Additionally, the speaker shares that he did not finish college but instead chose to work and learn through real-world experiences. While he acknowledges the value of education, he believes that he excelled at learning through doing and observing others. He also mentions that some successful people, like Bill Gates, did not complete their college degrees but still achieved great success. Overall, the speaker's experiences highlight the importance of both helping others and learning through practical experiences.

    • Learning from various industries and mentors shaped the speaker's growthGaining experience in diverse industries and learning from mentors are valuable for personal and professional development, teaching essential skills and the importance of serving customers and employees.

      Gaining experience in various industries and having mentors played a crucial role in the speaker's personal and professional growth. Through working in the furniture industry, they learned essential business skills, including managing cash flow, hiring and firing employees, and understanding the importance of serving customers and employees. A pivotal mentor introduced them to the concept of servant leadership, emphasizing the importance of helping people grow as human beings and professionals. These lessons were transferable to new industries, such as coffee retail, where the focus on building relationships and serving customers was even more critical. Ultimately, the speaker's diverse experiences and commitment to serving others enabled them to succeed in leadership roles.

    • The value of honesty and trust during layoffsHonesty and trusting your team during difficult times can lead to a strong and supportive team.

      Failure can lead to valuable lessons that make for better leadership. Schultz shares an experience from his time as president of a land development company, where he learned the importance of honesty and trusting his team during a difficult period of layoffs. Despite the failure and the resulting hardships, the experience left a lasting impact on him and his team, as they all remembered the honesty and commitment shown during that time. Schultz emphasizes that trusting your people and being truthful with them can lead to a strong and supportive team, even in challenging circumstances.

    • Joining Starbucks based on their people-first philosophyStarbucks' success was not just about great coffee, but treating employees and customers with respect and individual attention led to exponential growth

      The success of Starbucks was not just about serving great coffee, but rather about focusing on people – both employees and customers. The company's commitment to treating its human resources with respect and individual attention was a game-changer in the industry. The speaker shared how they met Howard Schultz, the founder of Starbucks, when he was looking for a VP of operations. Despite not meeting all of the qualifications on paper, the speaker was drawn to the company's people-first philosophy and eventually joined the team. This approach helped Starbucks stand out from competitors and contributed to its exponential growth throughout the years.

    • Employees embody Starbucks' values through actions and behaviorsStarbucks' values were effectively communicated and lived out by employees, creating a strong sense of teamwork and commitment to excellence that drew potential franchisees to join the company.

      Starbucks' values were effectively communicated and embodied throughout the organization not just through formal channels, but through the actions and behaviors of its employees. When the speaker, a potential Starbucks franchisee, went undercover to experience different aspects of the business, he was struck by the enthusiasm and care that employees showed towards their work and the company. At the time, Starbucks' values had not been formally documented, but the speaker felt that the strong sense of teamwork and commitment to excellence was palpable in every department he visited. This authentic embodiment of the company's values is what ultimately drew him to join Starbucks, viewing his role not as a job but as a life-long commitment.

    • Effective tools and resources for growing businessesInvest wisely with a unified platform like Yahoo Finance and sell products/services with an easy-to-use e-commerce platform like Shopify. Having a clear vision and the right team/resources can help navigate business growth.

      Successful businesses, whether small or large, require effective tools and resources to grow. The speakers in this discussion emphasized the importance of investing wisely and managing investments through a unified platform like Yahoo Finance. They also highlighted the significance of having an easy-to-use e-commerce platform like Shopify to sell products and services, whether it's a side hustle or a multi-million-dollar business. The speakers shared their personal experiences of the struggles they faced before discovering these tools and platforms. For instance, the speaker mentioned the hassle of managing multiple investment accounts and the ease of use they found with Yahoo Finance. Similarly, the speaker talked about the simplicity and effectiveness of using Shopify to sell their digital products and courses. Moreover, the speakers also emphasized the importance of having a clear vision and a driving force behind starting a business. The speaker from Starbucks shared how they didn't anticipate the explosive growth of the company, but having the right team and resources in place helped them navigate that growth. Overall, the discussion underscores the importance of having the right tools, resources, and mindset to build and grow a successful business.

    • Building relationships with customers for repeat businessStarbucks' success relies on repeat customers and excellent customer service, even with high labor costs.

      Starbucks' success comes from focusing on building relationships with customers and repeat business. The coffee chain's profits come primarily from repeat customers and the higher margins of beverage businesses, despite the high labor costs. The founders, Howard Schultz, Orin Smith, and Jerry Baldwin, had strong personal values against growing the company at the expense of their employees. They instead aimed to grow it with them. Schultz shared an anecdote about how opening a second store on a busy intersection in Vancouver led to tripling the volume, demonstrating the importance of serving customers well and meeting their demand. Additionally, meticulously accounting for costs is important, but the optimization of profits, rather than maximization, should be the goal to maintain a balance between costs and excellent customer service.

    • Starbucks shifted focus from selling coffee to serving peoplePrioritizing customer satisfaction and service over small costs leads to loyal customers, repeat business, enhanced customer experience, and fosters innovation.

      Prioritizing customer satisfaction and service over saving small costs can lead to significant long-term benefits for a business. This was a lesson learned by Starbucks when they received critical feedback from customers, leading them to shift their focus from just selling coffee to serving people. By saying "yes" to customer requests and addressing their needs, Starbucks was able to build a loyal customer base and increase repeat business. This approach not only enhances the customer experience but also fosters innovation as customers provide valuable insights into what they want next. It's essential to remember that the cost of acquiring a new customer is much greater than the small costs that may be saved by being stingy or nickel-and-diming them. By focusing on the people aspect of the business, businesses can grow and scale effectively.

    • Listening to customers brings new ideasSuccessful businesses prioritize customer input and value their ideas for new products and services.

      Successful businesses listen to their customers and value their input. This was a key lesson Howard Schultz learned during his time at Starbucks, where ideas for new products like the Frappuccino came from the employees and customers. Entrepreneurs often overlook the importance of being in the "human service business" and should prioritize listening to their customers' needs and desires. Schultz faced challenges when expanding Starbucks internationally, including getting the board's approval and identifying the right partners. He emphasized the importance of finding partners with shared values and a focus on people, as demonstrated by his successful partnership with Sazavi in Japan.

    • Expanding into Japan with Cultural SensitivitySuccessfully expanding internationally requires hiring local experts, creating a collaborative environment, treating employees with respect, and understanding that people's fundamental desires are universal.

      Successful international expansion requires cultural sensitivity, adaptability, and a willingness to learn from local teams. Howard Schultz, the former CEO of Starbucks, shared his experience of expanding into Japan and the importance of hiring local experts and creating a collaborative environment to develop new products. He emphasized the importance of treating employees with respect and dignity, regardless of cultural differences. Schultz also encouraged entrepreneurs and corporate professionals to take risks and challenge leadership to create a healthy and dynamic work environment. Ultimately, his experience taught him that people's fundamental desires for love, respect, and growth are universal, and this mindset helped Starbucks succeed in various markets.

    • Leading yourself is the first step to leading othersSelf-awareness, intentionality, and a strong sense of purpose are crucial for effective personal leadership, which in turn sets the foundation for leading others.

      Effective leadership starts with leading oneself. According to Howard Shore, the most challenging person to lead is yourself. This concept is fundamental to servant leadership, which emphasizes self-leadership as a prerequisite for leading others. Shore shares a personal story about being criticized for expressing his emotions and opinions too freely in a professional setting, leading him on a journey of self-discovery and the importance of intentional leadership. He emphasizes the importance of having a clear mission statement and core values to guide personal growth and leadership. The concept of conscious competency, unconscious competency, and unconscious incompetency also comes up, highlighting the importance of self-awareness and continuous learning in leadership. Ultimately, Shore's message is that personal leadership, rooted in self-awareness, intentionality, and a strong sense of purpose, sets the foundation for effective leadership in all areas of life.

    • Living authentically with values of honesty, purpose, serving others, persistence, patience, performance, and peopleLiving authentically with values of honesty, purpose, serving others, persistence, patience, performance, and people leads to a meaningful and fulfilling life

      Living a meaningful life requires a strong sense of self and a commitment to values such as honesty, a purpose greater than oneself, serving others, persistence, patience, performance, and people. These values should be consistent and authentic to who we are as individuals. Honesty is essential, and living with a purpose bigger than ourselves fuels passion and motivation. Persistence pays off in overcoming obstacles, while patience is necessary for achieving goals in a timely manner. Performance is important as we are constantly being measured by our actions and relationships. People are the focus of our lives, and serving them leads to fulfillment. Consistency in branding, both online and offline, is crucial for authentic representation and building trust. By practicing these values and living authentically, we can create a meaningful and fulfilling life.

    • Living authentically and consistently is key to personal and professional successAuthenticity and consistency in values lead to strong relationships and effective leadership. Hire for character, attitude, and reliability in addition to skills for successful hires. A powerful hiring platform can streamline the process and save resources. Being true to one's values reduces frustration and increases overall happiness.

      Authenticity and consistency in values are crucial for both personal and professional success. Being true to oneself and living by one's values is essential for building strong relationships and leading effectively. In the business context, hiring for character, attitude, and reliability, in addition to core skills, can lead to more successful hires. Indeed, a powerful hiring platform, can help streamline the hiring process by attracting, interviewing, and hiring all in one place, saving time and resources. Wearing one hat, or being true to one's values, allows individuals to live an honest and fulfilling life, reducing frustration and increasing overall happiness.

    • Focus on character and treating others well in hiringEmpathy and character matter more than technical skills in hiring, and empowering employees leads to success.

      Being true to yourself and doing things for the right reasons are key to success. According to Howard Schultz, the former CEO of Starbucks, it's essential to understand why we're doing things and be honest about our motivations. At Starbucks, Schultz focused on hiring people based on their character and human skills rather than just their technical abilities. He believed that it was harder to teach people to treat others well than it was to teach them a job skill. When hiring, he advised focusing on people's character and how they treat others before focusing on their technical abilities. Schultz also emphasized the importance of empowering employees and giving them the opportunity to make decisions, even if they're in a lower-level position. In essence, he believed that everyone should have a voice and a choice in their role, no matter what it is. So, the next time you're considering a new opportunity or making a decision, ask yourself why you're doing it and focus on being true to yourself and treating others well.

    • Connecting employees to the greater purpose and empowering themEffective leadership increases job satisfaction, productivity, and innovation by connecting employees to the organization's purpose and empowering them to make meaningful choices through open communication, listening to ideas, and calculated risks.

      Effective leadership involves connecting employees to the greater purpose of the organization and empowering them to contribute through meaningful choices. This can lead to increased job satisfaction, productivity, and innovation. Leaders should encourage open communication, listen to employees' ideas, and be willing to take calculated risks. The example of Howard Schultz and Starbucks illustrates this approach, where trusting employees to make decisions led to the creation of the Frappuccino and the company's continued success. In essence, think like a person of thought to make informed decisions, but also act like a person of action to implement those decisions and drive progress.

    • Living a Purposeful Life with Intention and ValuesWriting down values, having a personal mission statement, practicing reciprocity, learning through experience, and living authentically can lead to a successful, fulfilling life.

      Living a purposeful life with intention and values is the key to profiting in all areas of life, according to Howard Behar. He emphasizes the importance of writing down your values and having a personal mission statement to guide your actions. Behar also emphasizes the power of the law of reciprocity, which states that by being generous and serving others, you will be rewarded in some way. Lastly, Behar shares that a college degree may not be the best path for everyone, and that learning through experience, observation, and mentorship can be just as valuable. He encourages honesty and authenticity in all interactions. Overall, Behar's advice emphasizes the importance of living a values-driven, intentional life and serving others to achieve success.

    • Be truthful and fair in relationships for better outcomesHonesty and integrity build respect, trust, and repeat business. Trust and empower your team, communicate openly, and take calculated risks for growth.

      Honesty and integrity are essential in building strong relationships, whether it's with employees, customers, or loved ones. This means having uncomfortable conversations, even during difficult situations like layoffs or performance feedback. By being truthful and fair, people will respect you and vouch for you, leading to better business outcomes and repeat customers. As a leader, trusting and empowering your people is crucial for growth, and taking calculated risks is necessary for success. Remember, all the money is in repeat business, and treating people well is the key to keeping them coming back. So, be willing to bet your job every day, trust your team, and communicate openly for a successful business and personal life.

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