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    James Gimian, Mindful Magazine Publisher

    enJune 14, 2017

    Podcast Summary

    • Jim Gimian's personal journey to meditationDuring college, Jim Gimian dropped out of Stanford and began a quest for an authentic life through meditation, responding to societal pressures and personal disillusionment.

      Jim Gimian, the publisher of Mindful magazine, got into meditation as a response to disillusionment in college, the lack of insight among anti-war movement leaders, and his own experimentation with drugs. He dropped out of Stanford University in 1970 and began a quest to live an authentic life and address the deep roots of aggression in society. Through meditation, he found a way to sustain a relationship with habitual thoughts and live authentically. Jim's personal experiences reflect the intense and personal nature of the time, with the draft hanging over many young people and the threat of jail or military service for those unwilling to serve. Despite these challenges, Jim's older brother made it through the Vietnam War. Jim's journey shows the transformative power of meditation in addressing deep personal and societal issues.

    • Discovering Mindfulness Through Different Meditation PracticesExposure to various meditation practices led the speaker to find mindfulness meditation which transformed his life and led him to co-found Mindful, a non-profit organization promoting secular mindfulness practice.

      The speaker's life-changing experience on a remote farm in Northern California led him to explore various forms of meditation. During this time, he tried various meditation practices from a wide range of teachers and traditions. One book, "Meditation in Action," particularly resonated with him and introduced him to mindfulness meditation. After returning from the farm, he became involved in the mindfulness movement and co-founded the non-profit organization, Mindful, which aims to bring secular mindfulness practice to everyone. Mindful has since grown into a reputable media organization and a field-building operation, supporting champions in the mindfulness field and helping to build credibility and activation for the practice.

    • Mindful Magazine's Growth and SustainabilityMindful Magazine, now serving over 880,000 unique visitors and subscribers, has proven the sustainability of its business model through print sales and digital content creation, offering practical tips, thoughtful pieces, and inspiring stories on mindfulness practices.

      Mindful Magazine has experienced significant growth in both print circulation and digital reach, now serving over 880,000 unique visitors and subscribers. Having passed the startup phase, the publication has proven the sustainability of its business model, which includes print sales and digital content creation. The magazine offers a mix of practical tips and thoughtful pieces, with a focus on sharing inspiring stories of individuals and organizations making a positive impact through mindfulness practices. For those interested in mindfulness, Mindful Magazine provides a trusted source of information, resources, and community, making it an essential resource for anyone looking to explore or deepen their practice.

    • Navigating the Mindfulness Surge: Separating Science from HypeUnderstand that the mindfulness community is growing rapidly, but it's essential to distinguish between scientifically supported practices and unproven claims. Be cautious of those who capitalize on the trend while genuine leaders innovate and experiment.

      The mindfulness community is experiencing a surge in popularity, leading to a vast amount of information and various practices being presented. However, it's crucial to distinguish the science behind the practices being taught. Many teachers claim the science supports their specific meditation method, but it may not have been studied on that particular technique. The field is new and rapidly evolving, and it can be challenging for newcomers to navigate. However, most practitioners have good intentions and adequate training. The early stages of this cultural shift involve both genuine leaders and those looking to capitalize on the trend. While regulations and certifications may be necessary, it's essential not to stifle innovation and experimentation in the application of mindfulness.

    • Mindfulness in language acquisition and workplacesResearch explores mindfulness techniques to overcome language acquisition fears, but regulation and standardization are needed for quality and trustworthiness in the mindfulness world, acknowledging natural politics and competition.

      Mindfulness is making a significant impact in various aspects of life, such as language acquisition and workplaces. Research is being conducted to apply mindfulness techniques to overcome obstacles, like the fear of acquiring a new language. However, with the growing interest and application of mindfulness, there is a need for regulation and standardization to ensure quality and trustworthiness. This includes the establishment of a "good housekeeping seal of approval" for mindfulness teachers and trainers. The politics and competition in the mindfulness world are natural and should be acknowledged, rather than ignored, to create an environment where these issues can be addressed and processed mindfully. It's important to remember that mindfulness does not eliminate human foibles, but rather helps us become more aware of them and respond to them in a mindful way.

    • The Mindfulness Movement is Gaining MomentumOrganizations and events are connecting the dots in the mindfulness movement, leading to potential systemic changes, including funding proposals for mindfulness in schools and workplaces.

      The mindfulness movement, which started as disconnected nodes of activity, is now making connections and gaining momentum towards becoming a societal norm. The work of organizations like Mindful and events like Dell TechFest have played a role in supporting and connecting these nodes, leading to potential systemic changes. For instance, the UK parliament's all-parliamentary committee has even established funding proposals to bring mindfulness into schools and workplaces. The acceptance and integration of mindfulness practices into everyday life may still be hard to predict, but its impact is undeniably growing. Additionally, companies like Dell and brands like Whole Foods are embracing this shift by offering resources and products that support mindfulness practices. Overall, the mindfulness movement is moving towards becoming a mainstream and accepted part of society, with the potential to bring about positive changes.

    • Mindfulness Practices Expand Beyond Traditional SettingsMindfulness practices, like MBCT, are spreading globally, benefiting students, teachers, and even prisoners by reducing recidivism and improving focus. Despite growing acceptance, concerns about its religious nature persist, emphasizing the need to promote its secular benefits.

      Mindfulness practices, such as Mindfulness-Based Cognitive Therapy (MBCT), are expanding beyond traditional healthcare settings and into unexpected places like prisons and schools. This growth is happening globally and is being driven by the proven benefits of mindfulness in reducing recidivism and improving focus and attention. In Flint, Michigan, for instance, the Krim Fitness Foundation, which started as a fitness and nutrition organization, is now integrating mindfulness into its programs due to its positive impact on students and teachers. These developments demonstrate the increasing acceptance and integration of mindfulness practices into various aspects of society. However, as mindfulness gains popularity, concerns about its perceived religious nature persist. It's essential to address these concerns by emphasizing the secular nature of mindfulness practices and their potential benefits for all individuals, regardless of their religious or spiritual beliefs.

    • Understanding Mindfulness's Roots in BuddhismMindfulness, a human capacity for focus and awareness, has Buddhist origins but is accessible to all. Acknowledging this history promotes inclusivity and allows for diverse mindfulness practices.

      Mindfulness, a basic human capacity for awareness and focus, has deep roots in Buddhist meditation practices but is not owned by any one religion. John Cabot Zinn's secularization of mindfulness-based stress reduction (MBSR) has made it accessible to a wider population, but it's essential to acknowledge its Buddhist origins to avoid controversy and ensure inclusivity. By viewing mindfulness as the large circle that encompasses all humans, and Buddhism as the smaller circle that has contributed significantly to its research and development, we can create a narrative that is human-centered and welcoming to people of all backgrounds. This perspective also opens the door for the integration of mindfulness practices from various traditions, making the application of mindfulness more diverse and effective.

    • Mindfulness in Schools and Workplaces: Separating the Practice from ReligionMindfulness is a secular practice with benefits for all, despite Buddhist origins. Addressing concerns through stories and open communication can help implement it in schools and workplaces.

      The connection between mindfulness and its Buddhist origins can be a sensitive issue, particularly when it comes to implementing mindfulness practices in public schools. However, it's important to clarify that mindfulness is not a religion, but rather a secular practice that can benefit individuals regardless of their religious beliefs. Sharing stories of individuals, such as the Christian chaplain who found value in mindfulness, can help alleviate concerns. Another challenge facing mindfulness is its adoption in the workplace, where ensuring that it's implemented in a secular and accessible way is crucial. Overall, the success of the mindfulness movement lies in demonstrating its widespread benefits separate from any religious beliefs. While legal challenges are a possibility, open communication and addressing concerns in a compassionate and factual manner can help mitigate any potential issues.

    • Scaling Mindfulness in Large CorporationsDespite growing interest, scaling mindfulness programs in large corporations faces challenges such as finding enough qualified teachers, workplace integration, and time commitment. The Marines and Starbucks are exploring solutions, but more robust studies are needed on the science supporting mindfulness practices.

      While there is growing interest in mindfulness practices in businesses, scaling it up to companies with thousands or even tens of thousands of employees is a significant challenge. The issues include finding enough qualified teachers, integrating it into the workplace, and the time commitment required. The Marines faced a similar issue with their mindfulness program, which required a substantial time investment. Starbucks, with its 330,000 employees, is just beginning to explore this, and it's unclear how they will address these challenges. Another issue is the quality of the science supporting mindfulness practices. While there are promising indications, more robust studies are needed before definitive claims can be made. On a personal note, the speaker shared that his daily mindfulness practice involves a form of shamata or mindfulness practice, focusing on the breath and bringing the mind back to the breath when it wanders. He emphasized that the practice is about training the attention and connecting the mind to a bigger space, which can help dissolve the sense of being centered around thoughts.

    • Expanding Perspective through Mindfulness PracticeMindfulness practice, like focusing on breath, enlarges perspective, acknowledges infinite space, notices breath gaps, and integrates openness into daily life, even in challenging situations.

      Mindfulness practice, such as focusing on your breath, helps enlarge your perspective by bringing your attention back to the present moment and acknowledging the infinite space beyond yourself. This practice also involves noticing the momentary gaps between breaths, which can serve as breaks from constant self-talk. By being open to every experience and situation without centralizing yourself, you can integrate mindfulness into your daily life, even in the midst of challenging situations or work. The Tibetan Buddhist text "The Way of Ma Ati" encourages this openness and can serve as a helpful guide. Practicing mindfulness in this way can lead to a more inspiring and fulfilling experience of life.

    • The Importance of Connection and CommunityCultivating genuine relationships and fostering connections can significantly impact personal and professional growth.

      The power of connection and community cannot be overstated. Dan Harris expressed his gratitude towards his friends and advisors, specifically mentioning Barry and the team at Mindful, for their behind-the-scenes support and connections that have significantly impacted his personal and professional growth. This emphasis on the importance of genuine relationships and the value of fostering connections is a powerful reminder for us all. Additionally, Dan's dedication to sharing his story and starting important conversations on a wide scale serves as an inspiration for us to be bold and pursue our passions, while also recognizing the importance of the support systems that help us get there.

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