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    Jocko Podcast Civil War Excursion With JD Baker Pt.2: The Battles Have Begun

    enDecember 09, 2022

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    • Unexpected Longness of the Civil WarThe American Civil War began unexpectedly and was initially underestimated in length, with limited military resources and preparation.

      The beginning of the American Civil War was not anticipated to be a long and protracted conflict. The military was small and unprepared for a major war, with only 16,000 total men and officers and limited resources. The attack on Fort Sumter served as a catalyst for the war, but it took many by surprise, including President Abraham Lincoln, who saw it as an opportunity to rally support for the Union cause. The speech given by General Albert Sidney Johnson to the soldiers approaching the Battle of Shiloh encapsulates the gravity of the situation and the high stakes involved. The war was expected to be a brief one, but it ultimately lasted for four long years.

    • Attack on Fort Sumter Sparks U.S. Entry into Civil WarThe attack on Fort Sumter marked the beginning of the Civil War, prompting Lincoln to seek support from the north, initially calling for a 90-day army and facing logistical challenges, but resulting in a surge of enlistments due to renewed national crisis.

      The attack on Fort Sumter in 1861 served as the catalyst for the United States to officially enter the Civil War. Prior to this event, there were known threats against American soil, but the country did not declare war or invade another country without significant provocation. Lincoln sought buy-in from the northern states before raising an army, as the Confederacy had attacked a federal fort on American soil. The initial call for troops was for a 90-day enlistment, and the logistics of moving and supplying an army were significant challenges. The attack on Fort Sumter also led to a surge in enlistments in the military, as many men who had previously been considering leaving were motivated to rejoin due to the renewed sense of national crisis.

    • National crisis unites Americans and calls for actionDuring national crises, Americans feel compelled to contribute and support their country, leading to a sense of unity and camaraderie, even for those without military experience.

      During times of national crisis, there is a strong sense of unity and a call to action among the American people. Even if individuals may not have prior military experience or training, they feel compelled to contribute and support their country. This was evident during the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, where there was a widespread desire to respond and provide aid. The peer pressure to join and serve was strong, with those who stayed behind often feeling ostracized. This dynamic was also present during the early days of the American Civil War, with the Battle of Bull Run serving as an example of the unexpected challenges and consequences of amateur armies facing professional forces. The sense of duty and camaraderie transcended personal circumstances, making the experience a transformative one for those involved.

    • The American Civil War brings massive army growth and inexperienced leadershipThe American Civil War led to an unprecedented growth in army size, with inexperienced officers rapidly promoted to lead larger units, resulting in a shortage of experienced leadership.

      The outbreak of the American Civil War led to a massive influx of new recruits from various regions, many of whom had little to no prior military experience. These inexperienced officers, who had previously served in the Mexican-American War, were now being rapidly promoted to higher ranks, despite having only led small units before. The size of the growing army was unprecedented, with estimates suggesting it could be up to 60,000 strong, and senior military figures like Winfield Scott believed it would take years to mobilize such a large force. Meanwhile, civilians were also getting involved, following the army to watch the anticipated battle between the Union and Confederacy. The first major battle, the First Battle of Manassas or Bull Run, would result in a Confederate victory. With the Union's capital in Washington D.C. and the Confederacy's capital in Richmond, Virginia, just a short distance apart, the Union realized they would need more manpower to compete.

    • Challenges for the Union during the Civil WarDespite facing resistance from sympathizers and disruptions to their supply lines, the Union persisted and adapted, led by figures like William T. Sherman, ultimately leading to key victories like the Battle of Seven Pines.

      During the American Civil War, resistance from certain areas, such as Baltimore in Maryland, caused significant challenges for the Union as they tried to move troops and resources towards the Confederacy. This resistance came from people whose livelihoods and ways of life were tied to slavery, and who saw the abolition of slavery as a major disruption. The Union faced additional challenges in dealing with sympathizers in their own ranks and in commanding and equipping their armies effectively. One notable figure during this time was William T. Sherman, who despite being qualified for higher rank, chose to earn it through his actions and leadership. These challenges and the resulting skirmishes led up to the Battle of Seven Pines in May 1862, where McClellan, the popular commander of the Army of the Potomac, faced significant resistance and had to adapt his strategies. Overall, the Civil War was marked by constant friction and resistance, requiring the Union to be adaptable and persistent in the face of significant challenges.

    • Union and Confederate Generals' Differences in Motivations and ApproachesUnion generals, like McClellan, focused on logistics, tactics, and personal ambitions, while Confederate generals, such as Davis and Lee, aimed for independence and self-governance.

      During the American Civil War, there were significant differences in motivations and approaches between Union and Confederate generals. McClellan, a Union general and commander of the Army of the Potomac, was considered a status quo guy who believed in maintaining the existing order. He and other Union generals saw potential personal gain in their service, such as political ambitions or personal advancement. In contrast, Confederate generals, like Davis and Lee, wanted to form their own country and run it independently from the federal government. They had no desire for a large federal government dictating their state affairs. McClellan's strategy during the Peninsula Campaign involved a land or water approach to reach Richmond, considering the logistical challenges of moving an army of 120,000 people and their supplies. The Union generals' focus on logistics and tactics, combined with their personal ambitions, played a significant role in the Union's military efforts during the Civil War.

    • McClellan's Peninsula Campaign and Lee's Defense of RichmondDespite McClellan's plan to capture Richmond, Lee's well-prepared defense and Jackson's successful Valley Campaign boosted Confederate morale and caused concerns for Union leadership.

      During the American Civil War, General George B. McClellan chose to launch the Peninsula Campaign with the intent of capturing Richmond, Virginia, by water. However, the Confederates under Robert E. Lee were prepared and managed to defend their capital. This led to significant battles, such as the Battle of the Seven Pines, where Lee took command of the Confederate Army of Northern Virginia. Lee then sent Stonewall Jackson to the Shenandoah Valley to deal with Union threats, leading to the Valley Campaign. Jackson's successes boosted Confederate morale and caused significant concerns for Union leadership, as Jackson's mobility and military prowess proved to be unmatched. Despite his unpopularity as a professor before the war due to his strictness and religious devotion, Jackson's military leadership under Lee was instrumental in the Confederate victories.

    • McClellan's Deception and Cautious LeadershipDuring the Civil War, McClellan misrepresented enemy numbers to gain resources, while his cautious tactics and Lee's successful attacks led to his removal from command.

      During the American Civil War, General George B. McClellan intentionally inflated the reported enemy numbers to gain more resources from President Abraham Lincoln. McClellan, who was known for his cautious approach and keeping his troops alive, was not popular among the front line soldiers who saw his defensive tactics as cowardly. On the other hand, Robert E. Lee was criticized for his digging in and setting up defensive positions, earning him nicknames like "Granny Lee" and "King of Spades." When Lee took command, he pushed back the Army of the Potomac, creating a dilemma for McClellan who had to decide whether to continue the attack on Richmond or retreat. McClellan's habit of exaggerating enemy numbers, combined with his cautious leadership style, caused delays and frustration for the Union command. Ultimately, Lee's military successes put McClellan in a difficult position, leading to his eventual removal from command.

    • Relief of McClellan leads to chaos and Second Battle of Bull RunDuring the Civil War, McClellan's removal from command caused chaos and another Union defeat. Inexperience and favoritism at high ranks complicated the situation, leading to a learning process on the fly.

      During the American Civil War, the relief of General George B. McClellan from command during the Peninsula Campaign led to chaos and turmoil amongst the officers, resulting in the Second Battle of Bull Run or Battle of Manassas. McClellan's slow execution of orders and unwillingness to support other commanders in battle led to another defeat for the Union. Lincoln was faced with a difficult decision in putting McClellan back in command and combining the armies, leading to a power struggle amongst the officers. The lack of experience and training at high command levels resulted in a learning process on the fly, causing drama and favoritism within the ranks. Additionally, events such as the Battle of Pea Ridge in the Ozarks were taking place, adding to the complexity of the situation. Overall, the relief of McClellan and the subsequent events demonstrated the challenges of leadership and command during the Civil War.

    • The Battle of Pea Ridge and the Anaconda PlanThe Battle of Pea Ridge was a Union victory securing control over the Trans-Mississippi region, and the Anaconda Plan aimed to constrict the Confederacy by controlling key waterways and resources, achieved with the battle's success.

      The Battle of Pea Ridge, fought in Arkansas in 1861, was a significant Union victory that secured their control over the Trans-Mississippi region during the Civil War. This battle also saw the involvement of Native American regiments fighting for the Confederacy, but their lack of conformity to military discipline led to their dismissal. Meanwhile, Union General Winfield Scott devised the Anaconda Plan, aiming to constrict the Confederacy by controlling key waterways and resources. The Anaconda Plan's main focus was securing the western region, which had been achieved with the Battle of Pea Ridge, allowing the Union to move forward with their strategic plan. The metaphor of the Anaconda Plan as a constrictor snake illustrates the Union's goal of cutting off resources and controlling waterways to weaken the Confederacy.

    • The Battle of Shiloh: A Crucial Confrontation Near Pittsburgh LandingThe Union's victory at Shiloh demonstrated their ability to outmaneuver and outlast the Confederates, marking a significant turning point in the Civil War. Key commanders like Grant and Sherman emerged, with Grant's background as a struggling street vendor adding to his inspiring story.

      The Battle of Shiloh, taking place in Shiloh, Tennessee, was a pivotal moment in the American Civil War. It marked the first major confrontation between the Union's armies of Tennessee and Ohio, led by Generals Grant and Buell, and the Confederates under Johnston and Beauregard. The battle took place near Pittsburgh Landing on the Tennessee River, as both sides raced to secure control of strategic areas, particularly Corinth, Mississippi. Shiloh itself was not the decisive terrain, but its proximity to Corinth and the presence of the railways made it a crucial battleground. The Union's victory at Shiloh was a significant turning point, demonstrating their ability to outmaneuver and outlast the Confederates. Moreover, the battle featured the emergence of key commanders, such as Grant and Sherman, who would go on to play significant roles in the war. Grant, in particular, had a tumultuous background before the war, selling firewood on the streets of St. Louis to support his family. Despite his struggles, he proved himself on the battlefield, eventually earning the reputation as one of the Union's most effective generals. The Battle of Shiloh was a baptism of fire for many soldiers, marking the beginning of a long and arduous conflict.

    • From selling firewood to leading the Union ArmyGrant's perseverance, effective collaboration, and determination led him from humble beginnings to becoming a successful military leader during the Civil War.

      Perseverance and effective collaboration were key factors in Ulysses S. Grant's rise from selling firewood to becoming a successful military leader during the American Civil War. Despite facing challenges and criticism, Grant worked diligently with peers like Naval Captain Foote to achieve their shared goal of preserving the union. However, communication and coordination with other commanders like Buell proved more difficult. Logistical challenges, such as supplying thousands of troops and choosing strategic landing sites, added complexity to their mission. Despite initial disorganization, Grant's determination and adaptability ultimately led to success, as shown by the Battle of Shiloh and the establishment of a foothold at Pittsburgh Landing.

    • A chaotic and terrifying experience for soldiers at the Battle of ShilohSoldiers at the Battle of Shiloh faced chaos, carnage, and fear as they followed orders and fought for survival amidst the sounds and sights of war

      The Battle of Shiloh, as described by a Confederate soldier named Sam Watkins in his book "Company H," was a chaotic and terrifying experience for the soldiers involved. Despite General Johnson's confidence and readiness to engage, the soldiers were not well-organized and disciplined. Orders were given in a matter-of-fact manner, and soldiers like Watkins were focused on following orders and surviving the battle. The scene was filled with the sights and sounds of war - smoke rising from enemy guns, the whistle of bullets and cannonballs, and the cries of wounded and dying men. Despite the horror of it all, some soldiers, like the man who shot off his own finger, displayed cowardice, while others, like Watkins, found moments of happiness and camaraderie during the charge. The battlefield was a scene of chaos and carnage, with men lying in various positions, some dead, some wounded, and some begging for help.

    • The Battle of Shiloh: A Turning Point in the American Civil WarInitially a Confederate victory, the Union's unexpected halt order turned the tide, resulting in heavy Confederate losses and a Union triumph. Both sides suffered significant casualties, with General Albert Sidney Johnson among the many fatalities.

      The Battle of Shiloh, initially a Confederate victory, was turned into a Union triumph through an unexpected order to halt the Union advance. The Confederates dominated the first day, pushing the Union army back to Pittsburgh Landing with significant casualties on both sides. General Albert Sidney Johnson, a brave commander, was among the many generals and soldiers killed in the battle. Despite their initial success, the Confederates paid a heavy price for their victory and eventually failed to capitalize on their advantage due to the halt order. This experience was a formidable learning curve for the inexperienced soldiers on both sides, marking the first major battle of the American Civil War.

    • Confusion and Looting at the Battle of ShilohLack of clear command and failure to act on crucial intelligence led to confusion, hesitation, and ultimately, a halt in the Confederate advance during the Battle of Shiloh.

      During the Battle of Shiloh, Confederate troops overran Union encampments, resulting in widespread looting. Johnson, a Union commander, tried to stop the looting but was eventually killed, leading to a halt in the Confederate advance. The absence of clear command caused confusion and hesitation among the troops. Meanwhile, the Union brought in gunboats for protection, causing chaos and disruption. Nathan Bedford Forrest, a Confederate cavalry commander, discovered the approaching Union army led by Buell but was not taken seriously due to his lack of formal education. This failure to act on crucial intelligence contributed to the Confederate halt, ultimately allowing the Union to regroup and prepare for the next phase of the battle.

    • Military Leadership in Civil War not based on Wealth or Social StatusDuring the Civil War, military leadership was determined by individual abilities and merit, not wealth or social status.

      Social status and wealth did not guarantee military leadership roles during the American Civil War. In the movie under discussion, Tom Hanks' character, Nathan Bedford Forrest, a wealthy man from the slave trade, lacked formal education and military experience but was determined to join the war effort. Despite his wealth, he was initially denied the opportunity to be a private soldier due to his lack of prominent family background and "new money" status. However, when offered the chance to raise and command a cavalry regiment, Forrest seized the opportunity and proved himself to be an effective leader, leading reconnaissance efforts and charging into battles without hesitation. Meanwhile, Union officer Prentiss, a graduate of West Point, was captured during the battle and warned the Union commanders of Buell's approaching army. Despite Prentiss' warnings, the Union commanders disregarded him, leading to a disastrous outcome. This anecdote highlights that military leadership during the Civil War was not solely based on social status or wealth but on individual abilities and merit.

    • The Battle of Shiloh: A Turning Point in the Civil WarDespite heavy casualties, Grant and Rosecrans led Union forces to victory, while Forrest's cavalry charge made him a Confederate legend, but later he became the first Grand Wizard of the KKK.

      The Battle of Shiloh was a turning point in the American Civil War, marked by heavy rain, military defeats, and notable acts of bravery. Ulysses S. Grant, despite experiencing a rout and loss of supplies, maintained his resolve and went on the offensive with fellow commander William Starke Rosecrans (Buell) the next day, pushing the Confederates back to Corinth. Nathan Bedford Forrest, a Confederate commander, gained a fearsome reputation during the battle by leading a successful cavalry charge against Union forces, despite nearly being killed in the process. However, it's important to remember that Forrest later became the first Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. The battle resulted in significant casualties for both sides, with a combined total of 24,000 killed, wounded, and missing. The experience of battle, known as "seeing the elephant," was immortalized in the book "Seeing the Elephant" by Joseph Allen and George Reeves.

    • Experiencing combat for the first time - 'seeing the elephant'Historical phrase 'seeing the elephant' symbolizes the brutal realities of war and the significant experiences soldiers face in battle.

      The phrase "seeing the elephant" is a historical euphemism for experiencing combat. This expression can be traced back to the 3rd century BC when Alexander the Great's soldiers defeated King Porus' elephant-borne troops in the Indus Valley. This event marked a turning point in the war and was a significant experience for the soldiers involved. Throughout history, the use of elephants in warfare was a common tactic due to their size, strength, and intimidation factor. However, facing these massive creatures in battle was a daunting task for soldiers, and defeating them was a significant accomplishment. This euphemism serves as a reminder of the brutal realities of war and the experiences that soldiers face. It also highlights the importance of understanding historical context and the significance of seemingly simple phrases. If you're interested in learning more about military history, be sure to check out jacostore.com, jacofuel.com, originusa.com, echelonfront.com, and vomna.com for resources and information. And until next time, this is JD and Jocko, signing off.

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