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    Jocko Podcast Civil War Excursion With JD Baker Pt.5: The Last Battle of Stonewall Jackson

    enDecember 09, 2022

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    • Peaceful Exchanges Between Union and Confederate PicketsDuring the lull in fighting after the Battle of Fredericksburg, soldiers from both sides engaged in friendly trade and interactions, highlighting the human desire for comforts and connection even in war.

      During the aftermath of the Battle of Fredericksburg in the winter of 1863, the Union and Confederate armies settled on opposite sides of the Rappahannock River, leading to an unofficial truce and even friendly exchanges between the pickets. Despite the joking and banter, the pickets engaged in trade, exchanging goods such as tobacco, coffee, and even newspapers. This "cross-river trade" continued, with some soldiers even paddling across the river to make transactions in person. The truce ended when Burnside attempted to redeem himself by crossing the river using the fords, but the Confederates were able to anticipate this move due to the increased logistical activity they observed. This period of relative peace between the two sides highlights the human element of war and the desire for basic comforts, even in the midst of conflict.

    • Burnside Expedition: A Muddy Disaster in the Civil WarDespite having 70,000 soldiers and supplies, General Burnside's campaign in the muddy roads of Virginia was a failure due to the harsh conditions, resulting in low morale and a winter standstill.

      The Burnside Expedition, also known as the Burnside mud march, was a disastrous military campaign during the American Civil War. The Union Army, led by General Ambrose Burnside, attempted to move across the muddy roads of Virginia with 70,000 soldiers and supplies, but the conditions were so challenging that many became stuck and unable to advance. The soldiers and horses sunk deep into the mud, losing shoes and equipment, making it a grueling and ineffective experience. The campaign was a failure, and both sides ended up encamped on opposite sides of the river for the winter, waiting for better conditions to move. The morale of the soldiers was low, and the campaign was a stark reminder of the harsh realities and challenges of military life during this time. The event is described in detail in various accounts, including the book "Hardtack and Bacon," which provides insight into the daily life of soldiers in the army.

    • Robert E. Lee's Resource Constraints Force Him to Send Corps Away, Hooker Appointed as New Commander of Army of the PotomacLeaders must be mindful of their conduct and the impact it has on their team and organization, even actions meant to benefit oneself can have far-reaching consequences.

      During the Battle of Chancellorsville, Robert E. Lee was forced to send one of his corps away due to resource constraints. He chose to send Longstreet to the Suffolk area in Virginia to spread out the Confederate forces. Meanwhile, Hooker, who had been undermining Burnside, was appointed as the new commander of the Army of the Potomac by President Lincoln. However, Lincoln made it clear to Hooker that he was aware of his past actions and expected him to focus on his military duties without interference from politics. This incident serves as a reminder that actions, even those intended to benefit oneself, can have far-reaching consequences and that leaders must be mindful of their conduct and the impact it has on their subordinates and the organization as a whole.

    • Factors contributing to Confederate army's better morale during Civil WarThe Confederate army had better morale due to soldiers being from home territory, recent victories, and less lenient commanders compared to Union army's lack of regional support and significant victories.

      During the Civil War, the morale of the Confederate army was generally better than that of the Union army due to several factors. The soldiers in the Confederate army were often from their home territory and could potentially take leave more easily than their Union counterparts. Additionally, the Confederates had recently experienced victories, such as at Fredericksburg, while the Union army was still searching for a significant victory. The disparity in morale also stemmed from the fact that many Union soldiers were from different regions and had not yet experienced a victory, leading to a lack of support and motivation. The Confederate commander, Jackson, was also less lenient with his enlisted men, which could have kept morale high by keeping them in the field and focused on the war effort. Overall, the combination of these factors contributed to the better morale among the Confederate army.

    • Symbols of Pride and Connection in Military LeadershipEffective military leaders recognize the importance of boosting morale during low times and use symbols like patches to create a sense of pride and connection among troops. Visits from high-ranking officers and the commander-in-chief also help boost morale. Strategic leadership, such as bypassing strong defensive positions, can also positively impact morale.

      During times of low morale in military leadership, creating a sense of pride and connection through symbols like patches can be an effective strategy. This was observed during the Civil War when General Hooker, who hadn't served in the ranks, recognized the importance of morale-boosting gestures like designing army patches for his troops. However, he also recognized the potential downsides of excessive use of patches, leading to confusion and potential distractions. Another morale booster was the visit of high-ranking officers and the commander-in-chief, which gave troops a sense of recognition and appreciation. When facing a difficult campaign, Hooker's strategy was to bypass the heavily fortified defensive position at Fredericksburg and approach from the flank, using the rivers as fords for maneuver. In essence, creating a sense of pride and connection through symbols and recognizing the importance of leadership presence can significantly impact morale during challenging times.

    • Union General Hooker's decision to cross the Rappahannock River sets off a strategic chess match between him and Confederate General LeeHooker's decision to cross the Rappahannock River at Fredericksburg forced Lee to choose between abandoning Fredericksburg or counterattacking, leading to a turning point in the Battle of Fredericksburg and the Civil War

      The decision by Union General Hooker to cross the Rappahannock River at Fredericksburg during the Civil War set off a strategic chess match between him and Confederate General Robert E. Lee. The well-used road from Fredericksburg, then known as the plank road and now modern-day Route 3, was crucial for this movement. Once Hooker decided to use the fords to cross the river, Lee was forced to make a decision: leave his forces behind in Fredericksburg and risk losing control of the city, or move his own forces to counterattack. This was a race against time, as both sides knew that the spring campaign was approaching and they needed to secure a strategic advantage. The roads leading to the fords were only two-lane, making it a challenge to move large numbers of troops quickly. Hooker managed to get his forces across first, securing a foothold in Spotsylvania County and out of Stafford County. Lee, left with a smaller force, had to make a strategic retreat. This moment marked a significant turning point in the Battle of Fredericksburg and the broader Civil War.

    • Battle of Chancellorsville: 3-pronged approachesThe Battle of Chancellorsville saw both sides employing deceptive tactics and multiple routes to approach each other, allowing Union to move faster and spread out, while Confederate lacked knowledge of Union's movements on certain fronts.

      During the Battle of Chancellorsville, both Union and Confederate armies used deceptive tactics and multiple routes to approach each other. Lee's Confederate army left a division behind in Fredericksburg and moved west along Old Plank Road and New Plank Road, while Hooker's Union army crossed multiple fords and approached from the west using River Road, Old Plank Road, and the Plank Road. This 3-pronged approach allowed Hooker to move his large army more quickly and spread out, while Lee's decision to avoid River Road left him without knowledge of the Union army's movements on that front. The two forces eventually collided on the plank road, marking the beginning of the first day of the Battle of Chancellorsville. Despite the complexity of their movements, both sides were preparing for a head-on collision between their armies.

    • Union General Hooker missed chance to outmaneuver Confederate General LeeHooker's defensive mindset cost him an opportunity to split Lee's forces and potentially surround his army, while his exposed right flank and lack of effective communication from General Howard put his position at risk.

      During the Battle of Gettysburg, Union General Hooker missed an opportunity to outmaneuver Confederate General Lee due to his defensive mindset. Hooker wanted to lure Lee into attacking his position, but he failed to recognize the strategic advantage of splitting Lee's forces by taking control of the modern-day Telegraph Road. This could have potentially surrounded Lee's army. Hooker's decision to focus on defense instead of offense was influenced by his past experiences and underestimation of Lee's capabilities. Additionally, Hooker's extreme right flank, led by General Howard, was exposed and vulnerable, making it an easy target for a potential attack. Despite Howard's good intentions and religious background, his lack of effective communication and command abilities due to the multilingual nature of his troops made him a risky choice for leading the exposed flank.

    • Hooker's Mistake at ChancellorsvilleHooker's placement of his weakest commander on the Union's right flank left it unprotected, leading to the Union's defeat at the Battle of Chancellorsville

      During the Battle of Chancellorsville, Hooker made a critical error by placing his weakest commander, Howard, on the extreme right flank of the Union army, leaving it unprotected. This decision proved costly when Lee's Confederate army threatened that very flank. The two armies, Union with 138,000 troops and Confederate with 60,000, were separated by only three quarters of a mile. Hooker and Lee were both setting up their defenses, each unsure of the other's intentions. Despite the proximity of their forces, they were still trying to decipher each other's strategies. The error in placement of Howard on the right flank left the Union vulnerable to attack and ultimately contributed to the Union's defeat at the Battle of Chancellorsville.

    • Lee and Jackson's Risky Decision During the Civil WarDespite facing harassing fire and lacking local support, Lee and Jackson made a bold decision to change their battle strategy, resulting in a successful surprise attack and a significant turning point in the Civil War.

      During the Civil War, generals Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson made a critical decision while sitting on a makeshift field desk, often referred to as a "cracker box," to change their battle strategy. Facing harassing fire, they discussed their options and Jackson proposed an offensive move with two-thirds of their troops, leaving the rest behind with Lee. Jackson's plan involved marching around the enemy's flank, taking the Brock Road, and surprising them from the extreme right. Despite not knowing the exact route and lacking local support and guides, they decided to proceed with the risky move due to their confidence in their troops and the support they received from the locals in Spotsylvania, Virginia. This decision ultimately proved successful and became a significant turning point in the war.

    • Lee's Risky Decision to Split Forces at GettysburgLee trusted Jackson's abilities and split forces, risking the battle outcome by requiring clandestine movement, quick execution, and decentralized command.

      During the Battle of Gettysburg, General Robert E. Lee made a risky decision to split his forces and send Stonewall Jackson to attack the Union Army's flank with only two divisions. This move, known as the ultimate flanking move, required keeping the operation clandestine and moving thousands of troops quietly through the woods. The success of this gambit relied heavily on Jackson's ability to execute the plan quickly and effectively, as the Union Army could have launched a counterattack at any moment. The operation also required decentralized command to get the word to the troops. Despite the risks, Lee made the decision, trusting Jackson's abilities and accepting the potential consequences if things went wrong. The outcome of this decision would significantly impact the battle and the war as a whole.

    • Union forces under Hooker failed to react to Confederate flank march at Battle of ChancellorsvilleUnion's overconfidence led to lack of response against Confederate flank march, demonstrating the importance of situational awareness and adaptability in battle

      During the Battle of Chancellorsville, Union forces under General Hooker were overconfident and failed to react effectively to Confederate General Jackson's flank march. Jackson's men were able to easily march towards the Union's right flank due to the exposed area at Katherine's Furnace and the Union's lack of proper defensive positions. The terrain was relatively flat and easy to traverse, allowing Jackson to make good time. Union forces, led by General Lee, were left waiting and uncertain, unsure of how to respond. The encounter resulted in a significant Confederate victory and a turning point in the war. The Union's failure to adapt and respond effectively to Jackson's move demonstrates the importance of situational awareness and the ability to quickly adjust to changing circumstances on the battlefield.

    • Surprise Attack by Jackson's ForcesThe Union army's lack of communication and coordination led to panic when Jackson's forces launched a surprise attack, allowing the Confederates to exploit their weakness and gain ground.

      The element of surprise played a crucial role in the Battle of the Wilderness, leading to panic and disarray among the Union forces. Jackson's flank march caught the Union army off guard, causing a mass panic that spread throughout their ranks. Despite being seen by several Union soldiers, their commanders dismissed their reports, allowing Jackson's forces to continue their attack unchecked. This led to a significant advantage for the Confederates, who were able to exploit the Union's weakness and gain ground. The failure of communication and coordination among the Union forces ultimately sealed their fate in the Battle of the Wilderness.

    • Jackson's Reconnaissance Mission during Battle of ChancellorsvilleJackson's personal leadership during a reconnaissance mission led to valuable intelligence, emphasizing the importance of quick decision-making and adaptability in military strategy.

      During the Battle of Chancellorsville, Confederate General Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson led his troops on a 14-mile march and managed to surprise the Union army, but as they got closer to their enemy's headquarters, they paused to reorganize and regroup. Jackson, recognizing the need for more information, personally led a reconnaissance mission, but was ambushed by Union forces. Despite this setback, Jackson gained valuable intelligence and returned to friendly lines, emphasizing the importance of quick decision-making and adaptability in military strategy. Jackson's daring move to lead the reconnaissance himself, instead of delegating the task, highlights his leadership style and determination to gain crucial information for his next move.

    • Battle of Fredericksburg: Jackson's Painful EvacuationClear communication and understanding are crucial during battles to avoid friendly fire and ensure successful medical evacuations. Jackson's evacuation was a challenging process involving long rides and poetic final words.

      During the Battle of Fredericksburg in the American Civil War, General Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson was severely wounded and had to be evacuated from the battlefield. His men, who were from a North Carolina regiment, mistook friendly forces for the enemy and attacked them, causing friendly fire and hitting Jackson. The evacuation process was lengthy and painful, involving a wagon ride for 20 miles to Guinea Station and a train ride to Richmond for further medical treatment. Jackson's final words were poetic and poignant, urging his comrades to prepare for action before succumbing to his injuries. This incident highlights the importance of clear communication and understanding during battle, as well as the challenges and risks involved in military medical evacuations during that time period.

    • Power vacuum in the Union army during Battle of ChancellorsvilleQuick assumption of command by Confederate Jeb Stewart contrasted the Union's reluctance and chaos during the battle.

      During the Battle of Chancellorsville, when Union General Hooker was injured by artillery fire, there was a power vacuum on the Union side. Despite the clear chain of command, no one was eager to step up and take control. Meanwhile, on the Confederate side, Jeb Stewart, a cavalry commander, took off his sash and assumed command of an infantry corps. This quick succession of events highlights the instability and chaos that could arise during a battle, even for the seemingly well-organized Union army. The reluctance of Union officers to take charge also underscores the morale issues and disarray that the Union faced during this critical moment in the Civil War.

    • Union plan to outflank Lee's army thwarted by Early's warningEarly's warning to Lee led to heavy fighting near Salem Church, halting the Union's attempt to outflank Lee's army and forcing Sedgwick's troops to retreat.

      During the Battle of Chancellorsville, the Union's plan to send Sedgwick's troops across the Rappahannock River to get behind Robert E. Lee's army seemed promising, but Lee had troops in the area as well. When Sedgwick's troops began crossing, Early sent a warning note to Lee, forcing him to change tactics. Lee then sent reinforcements to block Sedgwick's advance, resulting in heavy fighting near Salem Church. Sedgwick's troops were unable to save the Union corps from being cut off and were eventually forced to retreat back to the river. Elijah Rhodes, a Union soldier, described the fierce fighting and eventual retreat. Despite the setback, the Union forces remained confident and managed to cross the river to safety.

    • The Battle of Chancellorsville: A Devastating Loss for Both SidesThe Battle of Chancellorsville resulted in heavy losses for both the Union and Confederacy, including the death of Confederate commander Stonewall Jackson, and the harsh treatment of prisoners during the Civil War.

      The Battle of Chancellorsville resulted in significant losses for both sides, with the Union suffering 1,606 killed, 9,172 wounded, 6,919 captured and missing, and the Confederates losing 1,665 soldiers killed, 9,081 wounded, and 2,018 captured or missing. The defeat was particularly devastating for the Confederates as they lost their renowned commander, Stonewall Jackson, who was quoted as feeling like losing his right arm. Despite the harsh conditions, Union prisoners, even enlisted men, showed respect to their adversary, Robert E. Lee, as he passed by them on the plank road. The fate of being a prisoner of war during the Civil War was a grim one, with prisoners facing starvation, segregated camps, and horrific conditions, as exemplified by the notorious Confederate prison camp at Andersonville, Georgia.

    • Contrast between respect on battlefield and inhumane treatment off itThe respect shown towards military figures during war doesn't guarantee humane treatment for prisoners, as seen in the harsh conditions at Andersonville Prison and the comparison to the Holocaust.

      The respect shown towards military figures like General Lee on the battlefield does not extend off the battlefield. The harsh realities of war, such as the horrific conditions at Andersonville Prison, reveal the stark contrast between the ideals of respect and the brutal realities of survival. The story of the young guards and starving prisoners illustrates the inhumane treatment of prisoners during this time, and the comparison to the Holocaust underscores the severity of the situation. The respect for military leaders like General Lee and Jackson, who were once revered on the battlefield, quickly fades as the horrors of war come to light. It's important to remember that the respect shown towards military figures is not a free pass for inhumane treatment, and the atrocities of war must be acknowledged and addressed. If you want to learn more about this period in history, consider visiting the National Prisoner of War Museum or supporting the podcast through jockostore.com, jockofuel.com, originusa.com, echelonfront.com, and vomna.com.

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