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    Rangan Chatterjee, MD on How to Make Disease Disappear

    enJuly 02, 2018

    Podcast Summary

    • Taking Small Steps to Prevent and Manage Chronic IllnessesIdentifying and addressing health issues early, focusing on diet and lifestyle, and utilizing effective tools can help prevent and manage chronic illnesses

      We're facing a major health crisis in the developed world, with chronic lifestyle illnesses like heart disease, type 2 diabetes, and dementia being the leading causes of death and disability. Doctor Rangan Chatterjee emphasizes the importance of identifying and addressing health issues before diagnosis, and the power of diet and lifestyle in prevention, treatment, and even reversal of these conditions. Despite the confusion and lack of clear information, diet and lifestyle are the most effective tools we have to protect and improve our health. Rich Roll, the host of the podcast, emphasizes the importance of Momentous' plant-based protein, ON's high-performance apparel, and Go Brewing's alcohol-free brews in supporting a healthy lifestyle. In summary, taking small steps towards better diet, lifestyle, and the use of effective tools can make a big difference in preventing and managing chronic illnesses.

    • Discovering the 4 Pillars of Health with Dr. Rangan ChatterjeeDr. Chatterjee's 4 Pillar Plan advocates for a holistic approach to health through diet, relaxation, movement, and sleep. Focusing on these areas can lead to significant improvements in overall well-being.

      Functional medicine doctor Rangan Chatterjee advocates for a holistic approach to health through his 4 Pillar Plan: diet, relaxation, movement, and sleep. I was inspired by his mission and discovered Go Brewing's delicious alcohol-free craft beers, made with natural ingredients and no added sugar or artificial processing. I also learned about Dr. Chatterjee's impressive background as a double board-certified doctor, author, podcast host, and BBC TV show star. When I felt under the weather, I applied the 4 Pillar framework to assess my health and realized I needed improvement in relaxation and sleep. Dr. Chatterjee's approach simplifies health information and encourages doing enough in each area, rather than striving for perfection. By focusing on these four pillars, individuals can make significant improvements in their overall well-being.

    • Small changes in sleep, eat, move, and stress can lead to big health improvementsMaking simple and achievable modifications in these four areas can have a significant impact on overall health, with real-life examples and practical tips provided to make the process accessible and relatable.

      Making simple and achievable changes in four key areas - sleep, eat, move, and stress - can have profound effects on overall health, both in the short term and long term. The gap between having the knowledge and taking action is a common challenge. The author's approach in writing the book was to make the recommendations accessible and relatable to people, with real-life case studies and simple, achievable changes. For instance, in the "move" pillar, instead of suggesting a grueling workout regime, the author came up with a 5-minute kitchen workout for a patient who found it hard to fit gym visits into his schedule. The goal is to empower people to feel good about making small changes that can lead to significant improvements in their health.

    • Making small lifestyle changes for big health improvementsSmall, personalized changes can lead to significant health improvements, regardless of socioeconomic status or dietary preferences. Accessible health information and focusing on commonalities can help bring people together.

      Making small, manageable changes to your lifestyle, such as doing simple exercises at home or modifying your diet, can significantly improve your health. Dr. Chastity Bono shared her experience of helping seniors make simple changes that had a big impact on their lives. She emphasized the importance of making health information accessible to everyone, regardless of socioeconomic status or dietary preferences. She encouraged bringing people together and focusing on commonalities rather than divisive debates. Dr. Bono also acknowledged the complexity of navigating conflicting health advice and emphasized the importance of considering individual context and personal preferences. In her book, she provides 20 free recommendations for improving health, with the exception of one that may require more resources for those in certain areas to adopt an unprocessed diet. Overall, the key takeaway is that small, personalized changes can lead to significant health improvements.

    • Respecting patients' autonomy and finding the right approachEffective communication and understanding individual needs are crucial for successful lifestyle changes. Personalized approaches and respecting patients' autonomy lead to better outcomes.

      When it comes to making lifestyle changes for better mental and physical health, it's essential to meet people where they are and find the right approach for each individual. Dr. Rangan Chatterjee shares his experience of patients who started with physical activity before addressing their diet, emphasizing the importance of respecting their autonomy and treating them as partners. He also stresses the significance of effective communication between healthcare professionals and patients, as this is the foundation for good outcomes. Another valuable resource Dr. Chatterjee recommends for personal growth is the Waking Up app, which offers not only meditation practices but also various courses on mindfulness and self-improvement. Ultimately, the key is to find what resonates with each person and helps catalyze change.

    • Preventing Chronic Diseases: A Call for Lifestyle ChangesChronic diseases, including type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease, stroke, and mental health problems, are a major health and economic concern. They're largely preventable through healthy lifestyle choices. The pharmaceutical model of care is not sufficient for managing these conditions, making lifestyle changes a priority essential.

      Chronic lifestyle diseases, such as type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease, stroke, and mental health problems, are affecting an alarming number of people in North America and the developed world. The costs, both financially and humanely, are unsustainable. These conditions are largely preventable and are often caused by unhealthy lifestyles. The UK spent £20 billion on the direct and indirect costs of type 2 diabetes alone in 2012. In the US, one in ten Americans currently has type 2 diabetes, and rates have increased by 71% since 1990. Chronic disease is not only a health problem but an economic one, as it affects people's ability to be productive and happy in their personal and professional lives. The pharmaceutical model of care is not working for many of these conditions. Forty or fifty years ago, medical doctors were successful in treating acute infections with a single pill. However, the majority of what we see now does not respond to this one-pill-for-every-ill model. It's crucial that we prioritize our health and make lifestyle changes to prevent and manage these chronic diseases.

    • Reclaim your dining table and focus on simple steps for better healthCommunicate complex health info simply, prioritize meals with others, and focus on daily choices for improved health

      Improving your health involves addressing multiple aspects of your lifestyle, not just one. These aspects, which could be referred to as pillars, were discussed as potentially being four or six in number. The speaker emphasized the importance of communicating complex health information in a simplistic way that people can understand and implement. One recommendation given was to "reclaim your dining table" by eating at least one meal a day with someone else, as this can lead to better connections and improved health. The speaker also highlighted the importance of understanding that individuals have control over their health through the choices they make every day, and that this concept was not emphasized during their medical training. By focusing on simple, achievable steps, individuals can start making positive changes towards better health today.

    • Empowering Individuals to Improve Their Health90% of health outcomes are influenced by environment and lifestyle, many chronic diseases can be reversed through lifestyle changes, focus on small, manageable steps to improve health

      Individuals have more control over their health outcomes than they might think. While genetics play a role in some conditions, approximately 90% of health outcomes are influenced by environment and lifestyle. This is an empowering message, especially for those who may feel resigned to their genetic fate. Furthermore, there is a growing consensus that many chronic diseases can be reversed through lifestyle changes. It's essential to focus on this shared goal and help people make small, manageable changes to improve their health. These changes don't have to be drastic; even five minutes of self-care a day can make a difference. As a doctor, my approach is to find what works for each patient and start them on a path to better health, no matter how small the first step may be.

    • Story of a doctor and his patient's transformation through small healthy habitsStarting small with healthy habits can lead to significant positive changes in one's life, as shown in a doctor's experience with his patient and in his own career shift towards lifestyle medicine.

      Developing and maintaining healthy habits, even if they start small, can lead to significant positive changes in one's life. This insight comes from a personal story shared by a doctor who encouraged a patient to start with just two minutes of meditation daily. Over time, the patient's practice grew, leading to substantial benefits. The doctor's own career journey also underscores this idea. He felt disconnected from his work in specialized medicine and sought a more holistic approach. Through creating a new course on prescribing lifestyle medicine and teaching it to other doctors, he aims to help more practitioners understand the potential for reversing and improving various health conditions through lifestyle changes. This anecdote highlights the importance of recognizing the interconnectedness of all aspects of health and the potential for meaningful change, even through small, consistent actions.

    • Doctor's communication style impacts patient engagementEmpathetic, conversational approach empowers patients, while brief, impersonal diagnosis leaves them feeling overwhelmed. Systemic changes, like doctor training and expanded consultation time, can improve patient care through lifestyle interventions.

      The way healthcare professionals communicate diagnosis and treatment options to patients significantly impacts their engagement and compliance. In the first scenario, the doctor delivered a worrying diagnosis of type 2 diabetes to Barry in a brief, impersonal manner, focusing primarily on medication. The patient left feeling overwhelmed and disempowered. In contrast, in the second scenario, the doctor took a more conversational, empathetic approach, explaining the condition and its causes, and offering lifestyle changes as a first line of defense. This approach left Barry feeling empowered and motivated to take action. However, the doctor's ability to adopt this approach is limited by the current healthcare system, which often leaves doctors with insufficient time to provide personalized care. To address this issue, there is a need for systemic changes, including training doctors in lifestyle interventions and expanding the time they have with each patient. Moreover, collaboration with nutrition professionals and health coaches can further enhance the impact of lifestyle interventions. Ultimately, prioritizing lifestyle interventions requires a shift in mindset and a commitment to systemic changes.

    • Study shows diet's impact on depression remissionA 12-week Mediterranean diet intervention led to higher depression remission rates than social therapy, emphasizing diet's role in mental health. Professionals need more training on this connection.

      A small study showed that following a modified Mediterranean diet for 12 weeks led to a statistically significant remission rate in patients with depression who were already on therapy, compared to social therapy. This adds to the growing body of evidence supporting the role of diet in mental health. Many mental health professionals were unaware of this connection and expressed a need for more training. The speakers emphasized the importance of recognizing the link between mental illness and lifestyle factors, as chronic diseases, including mental health issues, have multiple contributing factors. They also discussed the concept of sickness behavior, suggesting that our bodies' responses to stressors may be inappropriate in the modern world, contributing to mental health problems. Overall, the conversation highlighted the need for more education and awareness about the role of lifestyle in mental health.

    • Health goes beyond diet: Sleep and emotional wellbeing matterAddressing sleep habits and emotional issues, in addition to diet, is crucial for overall health and wellbeing

      Improving overall health goes beyond just focusing on diet. While diet is crucial, other factors such as sleep quality also play a significant role in health and wellbeing. The case of a woman with anxiety attacks illustrates this. Despite trying counseling and antidepressants, her symptoms only improved significantly when her diet was changed. However, further progress was made when she started seeing a talking therapist, highlighting the importance of addressing emotional issues. The author emphasizes that sleep deprivation can lead to various health issues, including insulin resistance, and can hinder efforts to improve health through diet alone. Therefore, addressing sleep habits and reducing stress are essential components of a holistic approach to health.

    • Living a Balanced Life: Prioritizing Diet, Physical Activity, Sleep, and Stress ManagementBalanced living goes beyond diet. Prioritize physical activity, sleep, and stress management for optimal health. Sleep deprivation negatively impacts health, and technology can make it harder to disconnect and find stillness. Employers can promote well-being initiatives to encourage balance and prioritize all aspects of health.

      Optimal health goes beyond just diet. While eating well is important, it's equally crucial to prioritize physical activity, sleep, and stress management. The blue zones, areas with high concentrations of centenarians, serve as a reminder that these aspects of a lifestyle are interconnected. Sleep deprivation, for instance, can negatively impact blood sugar management and overall health. In today's fast-paced world, it can be challenging to optimize all pillars, but making progress in one area can help improve resilience and well-being. Additionally, the constant connectivity provided by technology can make it harder to disconnect and find stillness, which is essential for creativity and mental health. Employers, like Apple, have a significant role in shaping how technology is used and can promote well-being initiatives that encourage balance and prioritize all aspects of health.

    • The Importance of Balancing Technology UseAccept technology but promote responsible use, establish healthy habits like tech-free time, and find balance to enjoy benefits without enslavement.

      While technology offers numerous benefits, it can also be addictive and negatively impact our lives, particularly our relationships and sleep patterns. The speaker, a father of two young children, shares his concerns about his children's future use of technology and the potential for them to become social outcasts if they don't have access to devices. He acknowledges the importance of accepting technology as part of modern life but emphasizes the need for responsible use and the establishment of healthy habits, such as tech-free time. The speaker suggests starting with small steps, like taking a tech break for an hour each day, and being present and engaged with family and friends without the distraction of screens. Ultimately, the challenge is to find a balance that allows us to enjoy the benefits of technology without being enslaved by it.

    • Taking control of digital distractions and food choicesTurn off notifications, gray scale phone, set boundaries for communication to improve well-being and focus on personal growth.

      Managing digital distractions and making informed choices about food can be challenging, but small steps like turning off notifications, gray scaling your phone, and setting boundaries for communication can lead to significant improvements in well-being. As a podcast host and nutrition expert, Simon Hill emphasizes empowering individuals with knowledge and practical strategies to make healthier choices and take control of their technology use. By reducing the compulsive response to digital notifications and communication, one can focus on personal growth and prioritize important relationships and tasks.

    • Setting clear etiquette rules for technology communicationBe respectful of others' time and boundaries when using technology for communication. Establish clear expectations and communicate them to others. Be mindful of the impact of technology on mental health and use it in a healthy way.

      As technology continues to evolve and become more integrated into our daily lives, it's important to establish clear etiquette rules around communication and respecting others' time and boundaries. An example given was adding someone to a WhatsApp group without their consent, which can feel intrusive and disrupt personal space. The speaker emphasized that these rules are still being written and that it's essential for individuals to set expectations and communicate them clearly to their communities. The impact of technology on mental health was also discussed, with the speaker suggesting that the constant connectivity and noise from devices can have significant consequences on how people feel. A story was shared about a 16-year-old boy who ended up in the ER due to mental health issues, highlighting the potential severity of the issue. Overall, it's crucial to be mindful of the role technology plays in our lives and take steps to use it in a healthy and respectful way.

    • Improving mental health through lifestyle changesAddressing social media use and diet can significantly enhance mental health, even for those struggling with depression, and empower individuals to avoid long-term reliance on medication.

      Addressing two aspects of a person's lifestyle, specifically reducing social media use and improving diet, can significantly improve mental health, even for a teenager struggling with depression. The doctor's approach, focusing on the "relaxed pillar" and the "nourished pillar" of his four-pillar model, empowered the teenager to understand the connection between his environmental choices and his mental health. This simple yet effective intervention led to noticeable improvements, transforming the teenager's life and allowing him to avoid a potential long-term reliance on medication. This case highlights the importance of addressing these two aspects of overall wellbeing to enhance mental health and improve quality of life.

    • Empowering patients to make connections between lifestyle choices and health outcomesA collaborative, partnership-based approach between doctors and patients leads to long-term, self-determined growth and improvement for patients.

      The most effective approach to health and wellness is not about inventing new principles, but rather empowering patients to make connections between their lifestyle choices and their health outcomes. This shift in perspective requires a collaborative, partnership-based approach between doctors and patients, rather than the traditional paternalistic model. The speaker's personal journey from a traditional medical background to a more holistic approach was sparked by a realization that modern medicine's acute problem-solving abilities were not enough to address the complexities of overall health. This paradigm shift can lead to long-term, self-determined growth and improvement for patients.

    • A doctor's own child's near-death experience due to vitamin D deficiencyDespite being a doctor, a father was unaware of his breastfed baby's severe vitamin D deficiency, emphasizing the need for awareness and proactive measures to ensure children's nutritional needs are met.

      Even highly qualified medical professionals can encounter unexpected health crises in their own families, and in this case, a preventable vitamin deficiency nearly took the life of a six-month-old boy. The father, who is a doctor, had no idea that his son was deficient in vitamin D, despite the fact that the child was breastfeeding. The father had come across information about the importance of vitamin D for children just weeks before the incident, but he followed proper protocol and consulted his wife's doctor, who dismissed his concerns. The son's low calcium levels led to a seizure, and he was rushed to the hospital for emergency treatment. It was only after extensive testing that doctors discovered the cause of his condition: a severe vitamin D deficiency. This incident highlights the importance of awareness and proactive measures to ensure children receive essential nutrients, even for those who are breastfeeding.

    • A mother's transformative journey into vitamin D and nutritionA near-tragic experience led a mother to explore vitamin D and nutrition, ultimately making a positive impact on her family and patients.

      A near-tragic experience with her son led a mother to delve deep into the world of vitamin D and nutrition, transforming her perspective on healthcare and ultimately leading to her helping not just her son, but also her family and patients. Despite initial feelings of guilt, she came to realize that this experience served as a catalyst for her to learn, grow, and make a significant impact on people's lives. The mother's journey underscores the importance of considering the long-term implications of health issues and the potential for personal growth and positive change even in the face of adversity.

    • Recognizing the Impact of Stress on Health and WellbeingChronic stress can negatively impact health, hinder weight loss, and cause health issues for women, emphasizing the importance of self-care and relaxation.

      Stress is the most common stumbling block for people in maintaining their health and wellbeing. Dr. Rangan Chatterjee, a leading GP in the UK, shares that in his practice, he sees the majority of people struggling with stress, which can lead to various health issues and even hinder weight loss. He emphasizes that with the constant bombardment of work and technology, people often feel they can always do more, leading to chronic stress. This can negatively impact one's health and make it difficult to achieve personal goals. Particularly for women, who often prioritize others before themselves, stress can lead to persistently raised cortisol levels, which can cause weight gain and other health issues. Therefore, it is essential to recognize the impact of stress on our health and make time for relaxation and self-care to maintain overall wellbeing.

    • Impact of mental and emotional wellbeing on various aspects of lifeRecognize the importance of small changes, like limiting tech use before bedtime, to improve mental and emotional wellbeing, ultimately leading to better physical health, stronger relationships, and overall happiness.

      Our mental and emotional wellbeing significantly impact various aspects of our lives, including our physical health and relationships. Stress, for instance, can hinder weight loss and worsen menopausal symptoms. Furthermore, technology use, such as spending time on personal devices instead of engaging in shared experiences, can negatively affect intimacy and overall connection with others. To improve our wellbeing, it's essential to recognize the importance of small changes, like limiting technology use before bedtime or setting boundaries for device usage in shared spaces. Ultimately, true change comes from within, and it's crucial to understand that we cannot force others to make the same choices for their wellbeing.

    • Lead by example for healthy habitsFocus on your own actions, set a good example, and trust others to make their own choices while providing support and education.

      You can't force others to change, but you can lead by example. The speaker shares her experience of trying to encourage healthier habits in her family and at her children's school. She found that instead of imposing her beliefs on others, focusing on her own actions and the positive impact they had on those around her was more effective. The speaker emphasizes the importance of setting a good example, especially for children, and trusting them to make their own choices while providing them with the right tools and education. She also acknowledges the challenges of maintaining healthy habits in a modern world and the importance of support from loved ones. Ultimately, the speaker encourages listeners to focus on their own actions and trust that positive change can ripple out from there.

    • Treats in Blue Zones: Occasional IndulgenceIn blue zones, treats are enjoyed sparingly on special occasions, promoting longevity and healthy relationship with food.

      The occasional enjoyment of treats, including sweets, is a common thread in the longevity-promoting cultures known as blue zones. However, it's important to note that these treats are not a daily occurrence but rather saved for special occasions. The speaker, who met a centenarian in Guernsey, shared how the man's favorite treat, a Guernsey loaf, was only enjoyed at Easter and Christmas. This approach to treats is consistent with the speaker's recommendation in his book to denormalize sugar, suggesting that it should not be an everyday norm but rather an occasional indulgence. The speaker acknowledges that completely cutting out sugar can be challenging due to addiction, but the benefits, including improved relationship with the food and potential microbiome adjustment, may outweigh the initial discomfort.

    • Creating an environment for healthy choicesAdapting environment to promote healthy habits and eliminate temptations can make lifestyle changes easier and more sustainable

      Creating an environment that supports healthy choices can make a significant difference in sticking to lifestyle changes. Our taste buds adapt, making it challenging to resist sweets after a period of abstinence. Willpower can only go so far, especially when faced with constant temptations outside the home. By eliminating unhealthy options from the home and setting up routines that promote healthy habits, individuals can make the process of adopting a healthier lifestyle easier and more sustainable. This concept is not only applicable to diet but to any lifestyle change. Dan Buettner's research on Blue Zones shows that creating environments that promote healthy choices, such as bike paths and community support, can lead to long-term health benefits. By focusing on the controllable aspects of our environment, we can set ourselves up for success and make the healthy choice the easy choice.

    • Encouraging physical activity through education and environmentSmall changes in education and environment, supported by communities, can lead to significant increases in physical activity and improved health.

      Both education and environment play crucial roles in encouraging physical activity. The education piece involves resources like books that help people understand the benefits and possibilities of making healthier choices. However, the environment is equally important. Small changes in the environment, such as signage encouraging stair use, can lead to significant shifts in behavior. Community support also plays a vital role in making these changes stick. For instance, a group of employees at Penguin, encouraged by their colleague, managed to increase their stair usage from none to four times a week, leading to numerous personal benefits. These small changes, made easier by supportive environments and communities, can ultimately lead to substantial improvements in overall health.

    • Personalized approaches to health and wellnessIdentify one small, achievable change for better health, such as turning off devices 90 minutes before bed, to catalyze a shift towards better health.

      Personalized approaches to health and wellness can be effective, even in a book format. Dr. Chatsky emphasizes the importance of finding relatable experiences and practical solutions for readers, rather than relying solely on research. His book, which focuses on a 4 pillar framework, has resonated with a wide range of people, from doctors and healthcare professionals to individuals dealing with various chronic diseases. The call to action is for listeners to identify one small, achievable change they can make in their lives to catalyze a shift towards better health. For example, committing to turning off devices 90 minutes before bed. This approach allows individuals to take ownership of their health journey and make progress at their own pace.

    • Small daily habits and cultural/legislative changes for better healthLimiting tech use before bed, banning junk food in schools/hospitals, work-life balance policies, reading Dr. Chatterjee's books, and connecting with him for more health insights.

      Making small changes in our daily habits and prioritizing health culturally and legislatively can have a significant impact on our overall well-being. Dr. Chatterjee emphasized the importance of limiting technology use before bed and suggested legislative changes, such as banning junk food in schools and hospitals, and implementing policies that encourage work-life balance, like locking employees out of their emails during evenings, weekends, and holidays. These changes, although small, could lead to transformative effects on individuals and society as a whole. Dr. Chatterjee also encouraged listeners to read his book, "How to Make Disease Disappear" or "The 4 Pillar Plan," depending on their location, and connect with him on social media or his podcast for further insights on health and wellness.

    • Finding balance and reducing stress for a long, healthy lifeStress can lead to chronic ailments, find balance through lightening up, check out Dr. Chatterjee's books for more insights, and prioritize self-care with the Four Pillar Plan.

      Taking it easy and finding balance in life can help us avoid chronic ailments and live a long, healthy life. Dr. Chatterjee, a multi-talented doctor, shared his insights on this topic during the podcast conversation. He emphasized the importance of not letting the stresses of life drive us crazy, lightening up what we can, and finding our stand. He also encouraged listeners to check out his books, "The Four Pillar Plan" in the UK or "How to Make Disease Disappear" in the US, for more information on this approach. The podcast episode page at richroll.com includes show notes with additional resources and learning opportunities. To support the show, listeners can share episodes with friends, leave comments on Apple Podcasts, or support it on Patreon. The show's production is made possible by the hard work of Jason Camiolo, Blake Curtis, Margo Lubin, and Anna Lemma. Until next time, go easy on yourself, reduce stress, eat right, sleep well, move much, and love more.

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