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    Sah D'Simone - How Community Transforms Your Spiritual Journey

    en-usMarch 09, 2024

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    • Exploring the Pandemic of LonelinessSaadis Sedissimo shares his journey from disconnection and loneliness to building authentic relationships through self-reflection and spiritual practices, offering insights and guidance for others.

      Saadis Sedissimo, a spiritual teacher, author, and speaker, joined the Slow Mo podcast to discuss his new book, "Spiritually We," which explores the pandemic of loneliness in today's world. Saadis shared how he experienced deep loneliness after leaving the fashion industry and being forced to reevaluate his relationships and priorities. He discovered that his focus on self-interest had left him disconnected from others and lacking authentic connections. Through introspection and spiritual practices, Saadis transformed his life and built a community of meaningful relationships. His book offers insights and guidance for overcoming loneliness and cultivating deeper connections with others.

    • The importance of community and relationships in spiritual growthRecognize the significance of building and maintaining relationships for spiritual growth and overall well-being, as loneliness and social isolation can negatively impact mental and physical health.

      The internal practice of spirituality can create a magnetic field around us, attracting people and fostering meaningful connections. However, in today's world, loneliness is a pervasive issue, affecting young adults and the elderly alike. In the United States, 61% of young adults report chronic loneliness, and 2 out of every 5 people report meaningless relationships. Suicide rates have increased by 30%, and 40-60% of the elderly population experiences social isolation. This issue is not limited to any age group. The call to action is to recognize the importance of community and relationships in spiritual growth and overall well-being. Despite all the efforts to improve physical health, mental health, and personal growth, the absence of friends and meaningful connections can leave one feeling incomplete. The spiritual path towards liberation is relational and communal, and it's crucial to prioritize building and maintaining relationships.

    • The Importance of Human ConnectionNeglecting human connection can lead to loneliness, isolation, depression, anxiety, and even suicide. Prioritize relationships and foster a sense of belonging to promote well-being and longevity.

      The human need for connection is as essential as our need for food, water, and shelter. However, in modern society, particularly in the West, we are neglecting this need, leading to widespread loneliness and isolation, especially among the younger generations. The Internet and social media are contributing to this issue by making populations more isolated, while we prioritize material possessions and appearances over genuine relationships. The consequences of this neglect can be dire, including increased rates of depression, anxiety, and even suicide. It's important to recognize that loneliness is a biological need, and we must prioritize connection and friendship in our lives to promote well-being and longevity. The ancient African practice of sentencing criminals to social isolation provides a stark reminder of the importance of human connection for our survival and happiness. We must overcome our fear of rejection and reach out to others to build meaningful relationships and foster a sense of belonging.

    • Social pain and loneliness lead to addictive behaviorsTo combat addiction, build deep connections with around 5 people in your inner circle for sustainable happiness and longevity

      Social pain is processed in the brain and body as physical pain, making chronic loneliness a source of constant discomfort. This can lead people to seek out distractions and addictive behaviors as a means of numbing the pain. The antidote to addiction, according to experts, is community. The quality of relationships matters, with the Dunbar Research suggesting that we can only maintain meaningful connections with around 150 people in our lives. It's essential to surround ourselves with those who would be there for us in our darkest moments, making up our inner circle of 5. These are the people who will show up for us when we need them most. Cultivating and maintaining these deep connections is crucial for sustainable happiness and longevity.

    • The power of true friendship in deepening emotions and spiritual growthTrue friendship goes beyond good or bad, deepens emotions, and contributes to 50% of spiritual growth through acceptance and support from others in our core 5 and 15.

      True friendship goes beyond right or wrong, good or bad, happy or sad. It's about finding people who can accept and support us in all aspects of life. Rumi, a Sufi poet, and Buddhism describe this as the field of non-duality. Friends who share in our happiness and sadness deepen our emotions and make them last longer. The spiritual growth equation suggests that 50% of our liberation comes from self-forgiveness and kindness, while the other 50% comes from our relationships with the world and our community. The people in our core 5 and 15 are crucial in embodying this liberation. However, finding these true friends can be challenging due to the atrophied muscle of relating caused by technology and fear of rejection. We must make an effort to reconnect and build meaningful relationships.

    • Learning to Connect AgainTo rebuild our capacity for connection, we need to invite people into our experiences, express our feelings, and engage with others in a genuine and authentic way, while being mindful of past experiences and developing tendencies that serve us well.

      We have forgotten how to truly connect with each other. We don't know how to navigate complex emotions and behaviors, and instead, we often react with labels and consolation. We've lost sight of the fact that feelings come from within and that we all arrive on this earth with a unique backlog of experiences. It's our responsibility to develop the skills to connect, but we're living in a culture that can make this difficult. Hyper-sensitivity and fragility can hinder our ability to connect, and distraction is a major obstacle. To rebuild our capacity for connection, we need to learn to invite people into our experiences, express our feelings, and engage with others in a genuine and authentic way. We must also be mindful of the influence of our past experiences and work to develop the tendencies that serve us well. By focusing on these skills, we can foster deeper, more meaningful connections with others.

    • Improve ability to connectTrain to be present and aware, engage meaningfully with others, address underlying feelings of loneliness and emotional discomfort

      We often struggle to truly listen and engage with others without being distracted by our own thoughts and experiences. This constant comparison and desire for superiority or inferiority can hinder meaningful connections. Our use of technology as a distraction from loneliness and emotional discomfort only exacerbates this issue. To improve our ability to connect, we must train ourselves to be present and aware of the tabs in our minds, and make a conscious effort to engage with others in meaningful ways. This not only benefits our relationships but also helps us address the underlying feelings of loneliness and emotional discomfort.

    • The paradox of technology leaving us feeling more lonelyTechnology can distract us from deeper emotional needs and real human connections, but engaging in meaningful experiences and environments can help build deeper connections and lead to a more fulfilling life.

      Our reliance on technology for connection and entertainment can paradoxically leave us feeling more lonely, underwhelmed, and disconnected from real human experiences. The entertainment industry, including technology, often distracts us from addressing our deeper emotional needs and connecting with others. Engaging in meaningful interactions and experiences, such as volunteering or attending spiritual retreats, can help us build deeper connections and live more fulfilling lives. Breaking the ice and being in environments where we wish to be found are essential steps to meeting like-minded individuals. While it may seem daunting, the effort to engage in real human connections is worthwhile and necessary for personal growth and happiness.

    • Making Connections Leads to Improved Well-BeingInitiating small connections can lead to deeper relationships, enriching our lives and making us better communicators.

      Making connections with others, even in small ways, can help dissolve barriers and improve our overall well-being. It may feel intimidating to initiate conversations or offer compliments, but starting small, such as getting to know our neighbors or engaging in low-stakes conversations, can lead to deeper connections. The fear of rejection should not hold us back, as the focus should be on our own growth and practice. Simple gestures, like a peace offering of chocolate cake, can help break the ice and create opportunities for meaningful interactions. These connections not only enrich our lives but also help us become more open and better communicators.

    • Mindfulness in awkward social situationsFocusing on internal awareness and allowing feelings to pass through can lead to positive social interactions and deeper connections

      Our fear of rejection or discomfort in social situations can prevent us from connecting with others and living fully in the present moment. An incident in an elevator, as simple as it may seem, can serve as a reminder of the importance of self-awareness and mindfulness. Instead of focusing on external validation or getting caught up in tension, we can practice bringing our awareness inside and allowing feelings to pass through us. By doing so, we have the power to create a positive impact on those around us and potentially foster deeper connections. The next time you find yourself in an awkward elevator situation, remember that you have the ability to shift the energy in the room and make it a positive experience for everyone involved.

    • Recognizing the value of different perspectivesConflict can deepen intimacy by helping us validate unique viewpoints and respond with greater awareness and emotional regulation.

      Our perspectives are not the ultimate truth, and conflict can deepen intimacy by helping us recognize and validate each other's unique viewpoints. The third truth encourages us to open ourselves up to understanding that there is more to life than what meets the eye and that our reactions are often influenced by past experiences. By recognizing this, we can respond to the present moment with greater awareness and emotional regulation, leading to improved well-being. Conflict, rather than being a source of division, can serve as an opportunity for growth and deeper connection when approached with curiosity and openness.

    • The importance of understanding the past and community in creating peaceUnderstanding past actions and building strong relationships are key to creating peace in the present. Regret past actions instead of dwelling in guilt or shame, and recognize the transformative power of community and friendship in personal growth and spiritual liberation.

      Understanding the complexity of the past and making peace with it is crucial for creating peace in the present. Regretting past actions, rather than dwelling in guilt or shame, can help individuals move forward and grow. Moreover, the importance of community and friendship on the spiritual path cannot be overstated. The Buddha's teachings emphasize that friendship is the whole spiritual path, highlighting the need for connection and support in our personal growth and liberation. The stories of Ananda and the Buddha, as well as Rumi and Shams, illustrate the transformative power of community and the role it plays in shaping our identities and spiritual journeys. In a divided world, recognizing the value of understanding historical contexts and building strong relationships can lead to greater peace and understanding.

    • Our interconnectedness in the spiritual realmRecognizing interconnectedness leads to deeper connection and happiness, while individuality can obscure it.

      Our individuality is an illusion, and everything in the world, including ourselves, is interconnected and interdependent. Rumi's life was shaped by the presence of another soul that complemented his path, and the same concept applies to our lives. The title "Spiritually We" reflects this idea, emphasizing our interconnectedness in the spiritual realm. The Western concept of individuality, with its focus on personal freedom and gain, can obscure our awareness of this interdependence. However, everything around us, from our bodies to the objects we use, is a result of various causes and conditions. By recognizing this interconnectedness, we can feel a deeper sense of connection to people and life. Through regular spiritual practice, we can cultivate this awareness and experience moments of connection despite our apparent separation. Ultimately, the book encourages us to decolonize our minds and release the indoctrinated perspective of separation, reminding us that we all share the common desire to be happy and avoid suffering.

    • Seeing commonalities can help dissolve a sense of separationActively reaching out and engaging with others can help break the cycle of isolation and improve overall well-being

      Connection is a choice, but it requires effort from both parties. While it's natural for people to feel lonely and disconnected at times, it's important to remember that everyone wants to be happy and connect with others. Seeing commonalities rather than differences can help dissolve the sense of separation. However, it's also important for individuals to reach out and offer support when they see someone in need. By making connection a priority, we can turn it from a choice into a lifestyle. It's not always easy, but the potential rewards are great. As the speaker mentioned, when we neglect our need for connection, we can become desensitized to loneliness. But by actively reaching out and engaging with others, we can help ourselves and others break free from the cycle of isolation. So next time you see someone parked next to you at a red light, remember, they're just like you, and a simple "hello" could make all the difference.

    • The Importance of Human ConnectionReflect on the value of deep friendships and prioritize human connection, despite the fear of rejection or discomfort.

      While loneliness may not be a choice, human connection is. In this insightful conversation, Sayu and Mo discussed the importance of friendship and the parallels between forming deep connections in friendship and romance. They emphasized the value of long-lasting friendships and the need to prioritize human connection, just as we prioritize food and drink. Sayu shared her expertise in the science of friendship and her Middle Eastern approach, while Mo shared her experiences and the challenges she faces in her own project focused on finding meaningful relationships. They both agreed that the fear of rejection and psychological discomforts can lead us to make poor decisions, but that it's important to push through and seek out connection. So, take a moment to reflect on the importance of human connection in your own life, and make a conscious effort to prioritize it, no matter how busy you may be. As Mo would say, "it's a choice when you really think about it."

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    In episode 197, Emily wrote in, feeling overwhelmed at how to develop relationships. She said she has no friends and is lonely. I‘ll read what she wrote in a minute. I then asked all of you this question near the end of the episode,

    How do you react internally to her words? How did you feel inside about what she shared?  Then, what would you do or say to Emily in response to her comments?  How would you respond to her if the two of you were in a coffee shop having a private conversation with each other?

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    I’m your host, John Certalic, award-winning author and relationship coach, here to help you find more joy in the relationships God designed for you.

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    As with every episode, our purpose today is to help you find more joy in the relationships God designed for you. Our listener friend, Emily, certainly isn’t experiencing any joy in her relationships. But let’s see what we can do together to help a friend like her.

    Season seven is coming to a close

    But first, I want to remind you of something I’ve been mentioning in the last couple of episodes.  Next week’s show, number 200 will bring an end to season 7 of You Were Made for This.

    I’ll then be taking a break from the podcast for a time to work on a few projects to better serve you. I’ll still be writing about relationships from time to time and I’d like to keep you in the know.

    If you’re on my email list, I’ll send you an article or email I come across that I think you would find interesting and helpful in nurturing your relationships.

    But if you’re not getting my Wednesday email, then you’re not on my email list. To get on it, just go to johncertalic.com/follow to give me your email address.

    What can we do to help a friend like this?

    Okay, On to today’s program. You may recall in episode 197 I mentioned that someone I’ll call Emily (not her real name) stumbled upon Episode 063: “Six Reasons Why We’re Not More Curious About People.” I’ll have a link to it in the show notes, or if you’re driving, just remember johncertalic.com/063.

    Emily came across this episode 2½ years after it first aired. Listen as I read her comments about it.

    “I found this page because I was trying to do some research into what is ‘wrong with me.’

    “I grew up in a very strict and often abusive household, where it was constantly drilled into my head that if people wanted you to know things, they would tell you. And I was made to feel stupid for asking anything that should be “obvious.” We were basically shamed out of our curiosity as kids and taught to accept everything at face value without asking any questions. 

    “Now almost 40 years old, I’m so frustrated by the fact that I don’t have any real, close friendships. 

    “I don’t know how to be curious about people, and even when I want to be… I have no idea what to ask. It feels like I don’t even know how personal relationships work. I don’t know how often you’re supposed to reach out to people, exactly what parts of their lives you should be 

    involved in, or how often to reach out… it sounds so silly but it’s my reality! I don’t know how to make and keep friends. 

    “I’m sure I come off as selfish and self-centered… But really I just don’t know how all this works and I get overwhelmed by it.”

    The question I asked our listening audience

    So again, the question I asked again of our listening audience is how do you react internally to her words? How would you respond to her if the two of you were in a coffee shop having a private conversation with each other.?

    Here’s a way to help a friend like this

    Our first listener response in answer to this question comes from Marilyn from Minnesota. She writes:

    “John, I felt like crying for this person sharing her relationship problem. I hope she has been getting some sound counseling over the years.

    “When I enter an unfamiliar culture I seek out a mentor or cultural guide to walk me through the confusing web. I can ask the questions that come up and that person can give valuable advice. I believe this would be a help to this person. But how can she even find someone to do it? This is the dilemma.

    “ I would love for this person to be my friend and experience life with her as a cultural guide and friend. But I suppose that’s a crazy idea as a blog is not normally used for such things.

    “I had parents exactly opposite from this individual. When I was very young, we had a missionary in our home for dinner. As we talked around the table, I felt free to ask him a question. In response, he complimented me for asking the question and encouraged me to continue that practice. Interesting how that one complement thrust me forward to get to know people by asking questions. This was also a lesson for me in later years to encourage and strengthen children in little and big ways. You never know the effect it will have.

    “I think you’ve done programs on asking good questions. Always an excellent topic. Some people are so good at it and some are on the opposite spectrum.”

    The elements of the ORA principle in Marilyn’s response

    I like how Marilyn O- observed what was going on inside of her after reading Emily’s comments. “I felt like crying.” While she couldn’t physically observe Emily, she pictured what it must have been like for her. This enabled Marilyn to R-reflect on her own experience of being in an environment that’s unfamiliar - just like the world of healthy relationships is unfamiliar to Emily. This really helped Marilyn identify with what Emily is going through

    Another listener response to help a friend like Emily

    A second listener response comes from Randy in Pennsylvania. Randy writes:

    “This evening, I listened again to this week's Podcast and the words compassion and empathy come to mind when you shared some of "Emily's" story.  It reminds me of the broken world we live in. None of us are born into perfect families and no doubt the baggage, hurts, and scars can be passed on from one generation to another. 

    “I think of "Emily" as a little girl who was conditioned to think so poorly of herself. It defined her and her ability to relate to others because at home she was made to feel stupid which likely shut her down emotionally. Here she is around 40 years old living emotionally imprisoned to being the "bad, stupid, etc." girl that her abusive parents brought her up to think about herself.

    “In many ways, I can relate as I regularly struggle with relational interactions and often feel like I don't go very deep with people. I can look at possible why's....a father who did not speak much.....showed his love through his work and providing not through his talking....he loved us dearly but his actions were his voice, not his mouth. My mom grew up with a very critical mother....hate to say it, but I picked up a bit of that type of thinking...

    Act to help a friend

    “So, thinking back to ‘Emily’, whatever she can do to work on changing her self-talk ‘that she is stupid and can't make friends’ would be a big step forward.  Think about working on changing her ‘mental Muscle Memory’ by replacing the negative thoughts with new, positive words, such as ‘I am deeply and completely loved by God…' something short and easy to repeat.

    “John, this is a very good exercise as what you have done by sharing this story and seeking input helps us do our own processing with taking steps forward in our own growth and healing. Thanks!”

    The ORA principle we see in Randy’s response

    Randy O-observed the compassion and empathy that rose within him as he heard Emily’s story. He observed what her childhood was like as Emily shared parts of it. It caused Randy to R-reflect on his own growing-up years, which allowed him to more easily identify with Emily. He also offered some A-Action Emily could take. 

    He puts it this way, whatever she can do to work on changing her self-talk "that she is stupid and can't make friends" would be a big step forward.  Think about working on changing her "mental Muscle Memory" by replacing the negative thoughts with new, positive words.

    So what does all this mean for YOU? 

    There are people like Emily all around us. Maybe you’re even one of them. Adults, who as children, were never modeled what good relationships look like. People just stuck in their relationships because they don’t know what they don’t know.

    This ORA model of relating is a simple way of remembering what you can do to help a friend. We just touched upon the surface of the 3 components of this principle. There’s so much more to observing, reflecting, and acting that we don’t have time to cover here.  After season 7 of the podcast ends next week, I plan to spend more time developing this concept so I can pass it on to you.

    If you forget everything else from today’s episode, here’s the one thing I hope you remember

    Today’s episode about how to help a friend struggling with relationships shows that the ORA principle of deepening relationships is a useful relational tool. Observe by watching and listening. Reflect upon what you observe and what it could mean. Act based on what you’ve observed and reflected upon.

    Closing

    Finally, I want to stay in touch with you from time to time after season 7 ends next week

    If you’re on my email list, I’ll occasionally send you information I come across that I think you would find interesting and helpful in nurturing your relationships.

    But if you’re not getting my Wednesday email already, you’re not on my email list. To get on it, just go to johncertalic.com/follow to get on the list.

    In closing, I’d also love to hear any thoughts you have about today’s episode. I hope your thinking was stimulated by today’s show, to think about how you can apply this simple relationship model, ORA, with the people in your life. It comes in handy for all kinds of relational interactions, especially when you want to help a friend.

    Well, that’s it for today. If there’s someone in your life you think might like to hear what you just heard, please forward this episode on to them. Scroll down to the bottom of the show notes and click on one of the options in the yellow “Share This” bar.

     I have one more listener response to Emily’s dilemma that I’ll share with you next week in episode 200 to close out season seven. And then I’ll share my own thoughts and response to Emily’s challenges.

    I know you’re going to like next week’s program, and I’m confident you will find it helpful. But until then, don’t forget to spread a little relational sunshine around the people you meet this week. Spark some joy for them.  And I’ll see you again next time, for the last time, in season 7. Goodbye for now.

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