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    Shame Can’t Survive The Light

    enSeptember 03, 2015

    Podcast Summary

    • Moving on from past mistakesAcknowledge past mistakes, learn from them, focus on present and future, forgive and forget, and practice self-compassion.

      Forgiveness and moving on from past mistakes is a challenging but necessary process. Rich Roll shared that he has faced similar situations in his past, where his relationships led to unexpected consequences. During the podcast, they discussed a listener's question about how to forgive and forget decisions made in the past that led to negative outcomes. Rich emphasized the importance of acknowledging the past, learning from it, and focusing on the present and future. He shared his personal experience of being let go from his past employer due to a relationship, and how he learned to forgive and move on. He also mentioned the importance of self-compassion and understanding that everyone makes mistakes. Overall, the conversation emphasized the importance of not letting past regrets hold you back and focusing on growth and positive change.

    • Bringing Shame to the SurfaceAcknowledge and process feelings of shame with the help of others, as they thrive in isolation. Embrace responsibility and accept experiences as part of your journey.

      When dealing with feelings of shame, it's important not to bury them but rather bring them to the surface and process them with the help of others. Shame thrives in isolation, so acknowledging and owning your experiences, even the painful ones, can help dissipate feelings of resentment and negative self-esteem. It's natural to make mistakes and experience regret, but trying to hide them only amplifies their impact. Remember, consciousness knows everything, and every action has a reaction, even if not in this lifetime. Take responsibility for your experiences and accept them as part of your journey. Shame may seem like a private beast to keep hidden, but it's an illusion to think that you can truly hide from yourself. Embrace the process of becoming responsible and give yourself the time and support you need to heal.

    • Shame's complex journey: A continuous processBeing open and vulnerable, facing and working through feelings of shame, are crucial for personal growth and deeper connections with others.

      Processing shame and coming to terms with past experiences is a complex and ongoing journey. Even after working through difficult emotions and becoming comfortable enough to share personal stories, new layers of shame can still surface. In the conversation, the speaker shares an experience where his partner, Julie, decided to include a story about him in her book that he had never spoken publicly about before. This revelation brought up old feelings of shame for him, highlighting the fact that this process is not a one-time event but a continuous journey towards transparency and self-acceptance. The importance of being open and vulnerable, as well as being willing to face and work through feelings of shame, was emphasized as essential for personal growth and connection with others.

    • High expectations and pressure can lead to disappointment and self-shameEven with optimal preparation, unexpected health issues or external factors can hinder performance and cause emotional distress. Maintaining resilience and perspective is crucial in overcoming setbacks.

      High expectations and pressure, even with optimal preparation and resources, can lead to disappointment and feelings of self-shame. The speaker shares a personal experience from the 2011 Ultraman race in Hawaii, where despite being in peak physical condition and having strong support, he faced unexpected health issues and finished far from his goal. The experience was particularly devastating due to the significant investment and sacrifices made for the race. This story underscores the importance of resilience and perspective in the face of setbacks.

    • Neglecting personal health and sobriety during intense goal focusIntense focus on a goal can lead to neglecting personal health and important commitments, potentially resulting in negative consequences.

      Intense focus on a single goal, such as training for a race, can lead to neglecting other important areas of life, like personal health and sobriety. The speaker's experience during a race resulted in a devastating outcome, both physically and emotionally, due in part to her decreased involvement in her sobriety. The moment of crisis occurred when she was faced with the decision to continue racing despite feeling unwell, and she had to consider her roles as both a supportive spouse and a concerned crew captain. Ultimately, the experience served as a reminder to prioritize overall well-being and balance in the pursuit of goals.

    • Impulsive decisions despite sobriety progressRelapses can be devastating for both the individual and their loved ones, highlighting the importance of staying committed to recovery and seeking support.

      Alcoholism can lead to impulsive and irrational decisions, no matter how much progress has been made towards sobriety. The speaker shares an experience of relapsing after a long period of abstinence, which was a shock to both herself and her partner. Despite their efforts to support each other through the recovery process, the speaker found herself drinking heavily at a beach bar, unable to remember the reasoning behind her actions. This moment of relapse was devastating for her partner, who questioned their relationship and felt betrayed by the speaker's choice to drink again. The speaker acknowledges the lapse as a humiliating and disappointing experience, but also a reminder of the importance of staying committed to recovery and seeking support from loved ones and the recovery community.

    • The power of complacency in alcoholism relapseLong-term sobriety doesn't guarantee immunity to relapse, and staying vigilant, attending to recovery, reaching out for support, and admitting vulnerability are crucial for maintaining sobriety.

      No matter how long one has been sober, the disease of alcoholism can still be a powerful force, and complacency can lead to relapse. The speaker in this discussion had many years of sobriety but experienced a devastating relapse, which served as a humbling reminder of the importance of staying vigilant and attending to one's recovery. The ego attachment to one's identity as a long-term sober person can be a hindrance, and it's crucial to remember that what matters is the present moment and the actions taken in it. The speaker's experience also highlighted the importance of reaching out for support and being open about one's struggles, even if it means admitting vulnerability and facing the shame that comes with it. Overall, this discussion underscores the importance of maintaining a strong commitment to recovery, no matter how long one has been sober.

    • Authenticity in sharing personal strugglesBeing open about personal struggles, including sobriety slips, empowers both speaker and listeners, shifting the conversation and providing valuable insights for those going through similar experiences.

      Sharing about personal struggles, even those related to sobriety slips, is important for authenticity and helping others. The fear of public perception or losing credibility can be overwhelming, but it's crucial to remember that relapse is a part of the sobriety journey for many individuals. Being open and honest about experiences, even difficult ones, can empower both the speaker and the listeners. The focus should be on prioritizing sobriety and helping others achieve it, while acknowledging the human qualities and vulnerabilities that come with being a recovering addict or the partner of one. Sharing stories authentically can shift the conversation and provide valuable insights for those going through similar experiences.

    • Experiencing disappointment and feelings of unfairness when partner relapsesCommunity and friendship are crucial in overcoming adversity, even during personal struggles and unexpected tragedies.

      The speaker experienced deep disappointment and feelings of unfairness when her partner relapsed after years of sobriety. She had taken a backseat in their lives to support him, but when he struggled, she felt overwhelmed and questioned everything. The situation was further complicated when the speaker's own dreams and goals were put on hold. However, with the help of AA and supportive friends, they were able to overcome this challenge and continue their marriage. Tragically, just three days into recording her long-awaited album, the father of her children died in a sudden accident. Despite the emotional turmoil, the speaker values the support she received during this difficult time and acknowledges the importance of community and friendship in overcoming adversity.

    • Unexpected life challenges and their impactLife's unpredictability can bring sudden changes, including loss and new responsibilities. Acknowledging personal struggles and embracing change can help us grow and be the best version of ourselves.

      Life can be unpredictable and throw unexpected challenges our way. The speaker shared a poignant experience of saying goodbye to a friend, who later passed away, while discussing music. The friend's sudden death forced the speaker to step up and become the full father figure to his friend's sons, overnight. This experience was a significant shift in the speaker's life, and he had to grapple with the disappointment of his friend's relapse, the loss of his friend, and the new responsibility of being a full father. The experience also highlighted the importance of acknowledging and addressing personal struggles, such as the need for validation and acceptance, in order to grow and be the best version of oneself. The speaker's reflection on this experience serves as a reminder that life is fragile and that we should cherish every moment and be open to change.

    • Sharing vulnerabilities inspires and helps othersAuthenticity and transparency in recovery can inspire and help others, despite past struggles and imperfections.

      Sharing our vulnerabilities and imperfections can be a powerful way to inspire and help others, even if we don't see ourselves as perfect or having all the answers. The speaker in this conversation expresses discomfort with being seen as an inspiration due to past struggles and relapses, but recognizes the importance of authenticity and transparency in connecting with others and offering support. It's important to remember that addiction is a progressive disease that requires ongoing vigilance and that sharing experiences can help others understand the challenges and complexities of recovery. Ultimately, we are all human, learning and evolving through our experiences.

    • Moving Towards Recovery or RelapseEvery moment matters in addiction recovery. Focus on forgiveness, forgetfulness, and the present to move past challenges and grow in the present moment.

      Every moment counts in recovery from addiction. You're either moving towards recovery or relapse, and there's no neutral ground. The speaker's relapse experience served as a reminder of this crucial concept. Sharing difficult experiences can be uncomfortable, but it can also lead to growth and deeper connections. Practicing unconditional forgiveness and forgetfulness, and focusing on the present moment, can help individuals move past challenging situations. Remembering that everyone makes mistakes and learning to forgive and release is essential for personal growth and renewal. The past does not define the present, and it's important to let go of regrets and focus on the possibilities of the new moment.

    • Embracing past experiences for freedom and integrationAcknowledging and integrating all experiences, both positive and negative, leads to peace and freedom

      Vulnerability and ownership of past experiences are key to achieving freedom and integration. Both the speaker and Mike were encouraged to confront past events, work through any resulting shame, and view these experiences as valuable lessons informing their future choices. The speaker shared her own journey towards releasing her ego and embracing vulnerability, and emphasized the importance of acknowledging and integrating all experiences, both light and dark, in order to connect with something beyond them. Ultimately, the goal is to find peace and freedom by embracing the full spectrum of our experiences.

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