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    Side Effects of Being a Black Intellectual (with Marc Lamont Hill)

    enMay 27, 2020

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    • The Unique Experiences and Challenges of Being a Black IntellectualAcknowledging the diverse influences and unintended consequences of being a black intellectual is crucial for growth and progress.

      Being a black intellectual comes with unique experiences and challenges beyond just intellectual pursuits. Mark Lamont Hill, a professor, entrepreneur, and cultural commentator, joins the conversation to discuss the importance of acknowledging the unintended consequences and burdens that come with being a black intellectual. He emphasizes the importance of recognizing the diverse influences and mentors that shape intellectual development, and the need to have open and honest conversations about these experiences. Mark's involvement in various intellectual spaces and his commitment to promoting black excellence and social justice issues make him an ideal contributor to this conversation. Ultimately, it's essential to recognize that intellectualism is multifaceted and that acknowledging the complexities of the experience is crucial for growth and progress.

    • Embrace joy and pleasure in intellectual workBlack intellectuals should not limit themselves to one persona, but rather, embrace all aspects of their personality and express their full range of talents and interests.

      Intellectual work should not be limited to serious or stern personas, but rather, it should be combined with joy and pleasure. As a black intellectual, it's essential to embrace all aspects of one's personality and resist being typecast into a narrow definition. The best intellectuals have always been multifaceted, and it's important to recognize and celebrate the various talents and interests that make up a person's identity. As the speaker noted, historical figures like W.E.B. Du Bois, Lorraine Hansberry, and James Baldwin were not one-dimensional, but rather, they explored various artistic and intellectual pursuits throughout their lives. Similarly, contemporary black intellectuals should be free to express their full range of talents and energies without fear of being seen as inauthentic or conflicting with their intellectualism.

    • Exploring diverse media and knowledge sources broadens intellectual workEngaging with various forms of media and knowledge can add depth and new perspectives to intellectual pursuits, while being aware of historical contexts and representations is crucial in predominantly white spaces.

      Being intellectually versatile and open to various forms of media and knowledge can significantly shape and broaden one's intellectual work. As discussed, James Baldwin's ability to write powerful essays and novels showcases this versatility. Furthermore, engaging with different media, such as music, TV shows, or even fantasy novels, can provide new perspectives and ideas for intellectual work. It's essential to remember that these diverse interests do not diminish one's authenticity or expertise in a particular field. Instead, they add depth and richness to one's intellectual pursuits. Moreover, the conversation touched upon the idea that black intellectuals can draw inspiration and insights from sources outside of their immediate community or field. These sources can broaden their understanding and provide new perspectives on their work. This is not a limitation but an opportunity to expand one's horizons and engage with the world in a more nuanced and thoughtful way. Lastly, the conversation highlighted the importance of being aware of historical contexts and representations, especially in predominantly white spaces, and acknowledging the significance of black figures and contributions in various domains. This awareness can help foster a deeper understanding of the world and one's place in it.

    • Essential for black intellectuals to have diverse interestsBlack intellectuals should embrace diverse interests, while being mindful of societal biases and the importance of genuine engagement with the black community.

      Having diverse interests outside of one's racial identity is an essential part of being a black intellectual. This includes engaging with various forms of media and culture beyond blackness. The fear of being labeled as inauthentic or "fake" for expressing these interests can be rooted in societal biases and assumptions that equate academic pursuits with a lack of connection to the community. However, it's important to remember that not all intellectuals are equally committed to serving the black community or representing its interests accurately. The skepticism towards academics and intellectuals stems from a history of betrayal and a lack of genuine engagement with the community. Ultimately, being a black intellectual means having a deep understanding of blackness and its complexities, while also being open to learning from and engaging with the wider world.

    • Fear of betrayal and disposability in black community towards leadersHistorical mistrust fuels quick dismissal and cancellation of black leaders, hindering progress towards an equitable society. Belief in profit from black suffering perpetuates focus on misery over joy.

      There's a deep-rooted fear of betrayal within the black community towards black intellectual leaders, leading to a culture of quick dismissal and cancellation. This fear stems from a history of mistrust and the belief that leaders will sell out the community for personal gain. This fear fuels a disposability culture where people are easily discarded when they are perceived to have gone against the community's agenda. Additionally, there's a belief that there's no money in celebrating black joy and that black misery is more profitable for some, leading to a focus on black suffering rather than progress. Ultimately, this culture of mistrust and disposability hinders meaningful conversations and progress towards a more equitable society.

    • Focusing on joy and everyday resistance in the black communityBlack intellectuals have a unique responsibility to highlight the ways black people find happiness and resist against adversity, which sets them apart from other intellectuals and helps alleviate stress and empower individuals within the community.

      As black intellectuals, we have a unique responsibility to focus on the joy and everyday forms of resistance in the face of adversity. While it's important to acknowledge and study the hardships and challenges faced by the black community, it's equally important to highlight the ways in which people find happiness and resist against the odds. This perspective sets black intellectuals apart from other intellectuals, who may not face the same expectations to save their respective communities or focus solely on the negative aspects of their field of study. By focusing on joy and resistance, we can help alleviate stress, PTSD, and feelings of uncertainty and powerlessness within the black community. This approach not only empowers individuals but also challenges the stereotype that black intellectuals must only talk about misery and saving the race.

    • The added burden of black intellectualsBlack intellectuals face unique pressures to represent and save their race, leading to unfair criticisms and expectations not placed on others, causing anxiety, depression, and a constant need to address falsehoods and assumptions.

      Being a black intellectual comes with an added burden of representing and saving the race, which isn't expected of other groups. This can lead to unfair criticisms and expectations that aren't placed on others. For instance, if a black person wanted to write a book about a favorite TV show, they might face questions about why they aren't focusing on more pressing issues, while a white person writing about a popular sitcom wouldn't face the same scrutiny. This extra burden can lead to anxiety, depression, and a constant need to address falsehoods and assumptions. Even historical figures like Huey P. Newton and Malcolm X, who were both black leaders and intellectuals, faced these challenges. It's essential to recognize and address these unequal expectations to promote fairness and equality.

    • Recognizing the Power of Intellectual Curiosity and EngagementIntellectuals are individuals who deeply engage with knowledge and ideas, regardless of profession or education. They can emerge from any community and have the power to advocate for social change.

      Intellectuals and scholars are not the same. Intellectuals are individuals who engage deeply with knowledge and ideas, regardless of their profession or formal education. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. are examples of organic intellectuals, who emerged from their communities and used their intellects to advocate for social change. While they may not have held academic positions or produced scholarly works in the traditional sense, their impact on history and culture demonstrates the power of intellectual curiosity and engagement. Intellectuals can be found in various walks of life, from the classroom to the community, and in art, music, and literature. The key is to recognize and value the intellectual work being done, regardless of the platform or medium.

    • The role of education for black intellectualsEducation is a continuous process of gaining knowledge and discipline, whether formal or informal, essential for black intellectuals to navigate the world and their own complexities.

      Education plays a crucial role in the development of black intellectuals, but it's essential to distinguish between education and schooling. Education can happen in various settings, and it's about gaining knowledge and discipline. Schooling, on the other hand, refers to formal education and the institutional structure. While schooling can provide valuable credentials, it can also cause harm. Common's music journey exemplifies this, as he evolved from a conscious rapper to a more complex artist, inspired by his experiences and intellectual growth. Education, whether formal or informal, provides essential tools for black intellectuals to navigate the complexities of the world and their own complexities. It's a continuous process of learning and growing, and it's important to recognize and value the various forms it takes.

    • The value of self-directed learningSelf-directed learning can be just as valuable as formal education, but a systematic and guided approach is crucial for understanding complex ideas.

      While formal education is important, self-directed and disciplined learning outside of traditional schooling can be just as valuable. The speaker emphasizes the importance of a systematic and guided approach to education, even if it comes from non-traditional sources. In the era of social media and information overload, it's crucial to distinguish between undisciplined and disciplined thinking, and to seek out trained educators or mentors to help guide us on our intellectual journeys. Education is a communal project, and we need a structured path of inquiry to fully understand complex ideas. While formal schooling and self-directed learning can intersect, they don't always have to, and it's essential to recognize the value of both.

    • The importance of critical thinking and peer groups in educationEffectively teach those willing to learn instead of debating with those lacking foundation. Peer groups are based on shared values, knowledge, and aspirations, not just age.

      The ability to think critically is more valuable than just knowing what to think. Education, whether it's community-based or self-directed, is essential for developing this skill. However, the digital age can make it challenging to discern who our true peers are, as social media can create a false sense of equivalence. It's crucial to recognize that peer groups are not just based on age but also shared aspirations, values, and knowledge. Engaging in debates with those who lack the same foundation can be a waste of time and energy. Instead, focusing on teaching those who are ready to learn is a more effective use of our resources as black intellectuals. We carry a heavy burden to ensure the next generation is not left behind, but they must be willing and prepared to learn. As my therapist reminds me, sometimes it's best to let others believe what they will and continue to teach those who are open to growth.

    • Value of humility and open-mindedness in learning and discussionsRecognize expertise of others, learn from them, know limitations, stay within area of expertise, create dialogue, engage in discussions, defer to expertise when necessary

      Humility and open-mindedness are crucial for effective learning and engaging in intellectual discussions. The speaker emphasizes the importance of recognizing the expertise of others and being willing to learn from them, even if they are from different backgrounds or have different perspectives. He also stresses the importance of knowing one's limitations and not speaking on topics outside of one's area of expertise. The speaker shares personal experiences of being criticized for making errors or expressing opinions on topics where he was not an expert. He concludes by encouraging the value of knowing what one knows and staying within one's area of expertise. Additionally, the speaker highlights the importance of creating dialogue and engaging in intellectual discussions, but also knowing when to defer to the expertise of others.

    • Embrace constructive intellectual discourseValue everyone's knowledge, engage in productive conversations, and focus on progress and liberation.

      Twitter, and intellectual discourse in general, can sometimes feel like a grandiose stage where people perform their expertise without having to concede or admit fault. However, it's essential to remember that everyone has valuable knowledge, and intellectual engagement should be a constructive conversation that moves forward, not a competitive or combative one. Disciplined thinking, which is developed through rigorous training and education, is crucial in all aspects of life, including intellectual discourse and artistic pursuits. It's important for black intellectualism to focus on the bigger picture of liberation and progress, rather than getting bogged down in back-and-forth debates. Additionally, even outside of traditional educational settings, developing the habit of succinctly expressing and contributing to intellectual conversations can be a valuable skill.

    • Practicing disciplined thinking through reading and writingTo deepen understanding of intellectual conversations, read widely, take notes, and engage with arguments in both fiction and nonfiction texts.

      To be an active listener and participant in intellectual conversations, particularly those surrounding blackness and intellectualism, requires disciplined thinking. This can be achieved through reading and careful interpretation of arguments, both nonfiction and fiction. Reading allows us to understand different perspectives and the connections between them. It's important to engage with the arguments being made, not just the criticisms. Writing is another crucial aspect of disciplined thinking. Taking notes and making observations after reading can help deepen our understanding of the texts and the conversations they're a part of. By engaging in these practices, we can develop our critical thinking skills and participate in meaningful conversations.

    • Engaging with diverse perspectives requires intellectual disciplineStrive for good faith debates, challenge societal norms, and aim for a better answer, not personal gain or exploitation.

      Engaging with diverse perspectives and arguments requires intellectual discipline and critical thinking. Being easily swayed by persuasive but misleading arguments can lead to being "duped" or manipulated. It's important to not let individual biases or the desire to be contrarian cloud our judgement. Instead, we should strive for good faith debates that aim to deepen our understanding of the world. As black intellectuals, we hold great value in challenging common sense and offering counterintuitive perspectives. By doing so, we can help shift societal norms and dismantle structures of oppression. It's crucial to approach debates with the intention of arriving at a better answer, rather than for personal gain or to exploit others' misery.

    • Imagining new ways of living and understanding the worldQuestion conventional wisdom, envision alternatives, take action in community and academia, inspire and engage others, and remain committed to positive change.

      Challenging the status quo and imagining new ways of living and understanding the world is essential, especially for those with a particular stake in social justice issues. The speaker emphasizes the importance of questioning conventional wisdom and envisioning alternatives, whether it's in the context of prison abolition, progressive politics, or education. They also highlight the importance of action, both in the community and in academia, and the need to inspire and engage others in this process. The speaker's own work, which includes books, films, and community organizing, reflects these values. They also acknowledge the challenges of creativity and productivity during times of crisis but remain committed to continuing their work. Overall, the message is one of resilience, imagination, and the power of intellectual and community engagement to bring about positive change.

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