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    Sparkles with Starmer plus Rob Delaney, NHS champion

    enOctober 12, 2023

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    • Labour Party Conference and Green Party ReflectionsRob Delaney shares experiences supporting striking nurses and attending Green Party conference, hosts reflect on surprise and importance of new perspectives in politics

      The Pod Save the UK hosts, Coco Khan and Nish Kumar, along with their special guest Rob Delaney, discussed the recent Labour Party conference and the possibility of a new leader. Rob shared his experiences supporting striking nurses and attending the Green Party conference. Coco and Nish reflected on their past criticisms of party conferences and their surprise at attending the Green Party event. The conversation touched on various topics, including the importance of having more Green politicians in parliament due to the U-turns made by both major parties. Despite their initial skepticism, they found the Green Party conference to be an eye-opening experience. Overall, the podcast highlighted the need for change and the importance of being open to new perspectives.

    • Green Party aims to quadruple MPs, focusing on target seatsThe Green Party intends to quadruple their MPs in the upcoming election, prioritizing seats in Brighton, Bristol, Waveney Valley, and North Hertfordshire. They argue for more green representation to hold the governing party accountable on environmental and social justice issues, criticizing Labour for insufficient action.

      The Green Party is focused on increasing their number of MPs in the upcoming general election, aiming to quadruple their current number. They believe they can achieve this in target seats in Brighton, Bristol, Waveney Valley, and North Hertfordshire. The party sees the need for more green MPs to hold the feet of the governing party to the fire regarding environmental and social justice issues. The Green Party argues that Labour, despite claiming to be progressive, is not doing enough to address these issues and may not follow through on their promises once in power. The Greens believe they offer a party with integrity, democracy, and a commitment to joining the dots between the climate emergency and the inequality crisis. They advocate for a wealth tax to address income inequality and argue that tackling these two crises with the same solutions is crucial. The Green Party also encourages a shift in language, moving from a "cost of living crisis" to an "inequality crisis."

    • Political groups face challenges in bringing about changeDespite the efforts of political groups, their lack of power or representation makes significant change difficult. Labour positions itself as a trustworthy alternative, addressing issues like the NHS and economic growth.

      Despite the ambitious plans of a political group, the lack of significant power or representation makes it challenging to bring about substantial change. Meanwhile, at the Labour Party Conference, Keir Starmer pitched Labour as a serious and trustworthy alternative to the Conservative Party, focusing on serving the public interest and addressing various issues, including the NHS and economic growth. A listener, despite being a Tory, argued against the idea that there are no moderate Tories left and highlighted the presence of socially liberal voices within the party. However, concerns remain about the Conservative Party's direction and the need for it to rebuild trust as a respectable political organization.

    • Labour Party conference with focus on urban development and IsraelStarmer confidently addressed urban development and Israel crisis, securing a standing ovation, while Labour Party presented itself as a unified government-in-waiting.

      Keir Starmer's Labor Party conference speech was marked by his confident demeanor and a focus on new urban development, despite interruptions from a protester. The event was overshadowed by the ongoing crisis in Israel and Gaza, but Starmer managed to secure a standing ovation with his strong stance in support of Israel. The conference also saw a shift towards citizen-led politics and a call for a "people's house." Despite the long weeks on the road and the somber mood caused by international events, the political editor of the Financial Times, George Parker, noted that the Labour Party was able to present itself as a government-in-waiting without the expected splits and conflicts that would have arisen during the Corbyn era.

    • Labour Party conference: Stability, hope, and housingLabour Party focused on stability and hope, pledged to conserve and repair, proposed changing planning system for more homes, capitalized on Tory missteps, boosted by by-election win, and left conference with relief and optimism.

      The Labour Party, led by Keir Starmer, used their conference to present a message of stability and hope, aiming to reassure voters and potentially attract disaffected Tory voters. The speech was light on specific policies but emphasized the party's commitment to conserving and repairing what's been ruined. A notable exception was a proposal to change the planning system to build more homes, an idea often advocated by right-wing conservatives and the house building industry. The conference came after a perceived misstep from the Conservatives, with their conference being criticized for lackluster policies and a U-turn on transport policy. This, combined with a by-election victory in Scotland, has given the Labour Party a boost in morale. The overall mood was relief and optimism, with many leaving Liverpool in good spirits, if a bit hungover.

    • Labour Party conference focuses on housing policies and presenting themselves as a government in waitingThe Labour Party conference highlighted their readiness to tackle the housing crisis and govern effectively, despite challenges in winning over certain sections of the country.

      The Labour Party conference focused on presenting themselves as a government in waiting, particularly in regards to their housing policies. The speeches by Rachel Reeves and Keir Starmer were well-received, and the atmosphere at the conference was more energetic compared to the Conservative Party conference. However, the Labour Party still faces challenges in winning over large sections of the country, as indicated by opinion polls. It's important to note that the conference took place against the backdrop of the ongoing conflict in Israel and Gaza, and it's crucial to be cautious when consuming information from unreliable sources such as social media and some British newspapers. The housing crisis is a significant issue, and whoever can effectively address it is likely to win the next election. The Labour Party's conference aimed to show they are prepared to govern and make a difference on this issue.

    • Expressing support for NHS and workers while acknowledging complexitiesActor Rob Delaney advocates for workers' rights and believes there's enough wealth to fund public services, while recognizing the complexities of conflicting views and emotions towards the NHS and Hamas.

      It's possible to hold conflicting views and emotions, such as condemning the actions of Hamas while supporting Palestinian liberation, and that online actions can have real-life consequences. Regarding the NHS, the ongoing strikes by healthcare workers highlight the issue's significance in the upcoming election campaign. The wealth exists to fund their requests, but the government's unwillingness to tax the rich and prioritize public services is a cause for concern. Rob Delaney, an actor, comedian, and author, is among those expressing support for the NHS and its workers. Income inequality is at gilded age levels in both the UK and US, and Delaney, who has experienced various tax brackets, believes there's enough to go around and advocates for workers' rights. Delaney's book, "A Heart That Works," shares his intimate and humorous experiences with life and loss, particularly regarding his son Henry's illness and death, and the care they received from the NHS.

    • Sharing stories of grief and loss can bring comfort and support to othersWriting about personal experiences of grief and loss can help others, raise awareness about the impact of social care cuts, and provide comfort and support to those going through similar experiences.

      The author's experience of losing a child and writing about it has led her to a deeper understanding of the importance of sharing stories and supporting each other through grief. She has been touched by the responses from bereaved parents and siblings, and feels that her book, though painful for her, can help others. The author also emphasizes the need to raise awareness about the impact of cuts to social care on families and the healthcare system as a whole. Writing and promoting the book was a challenging experience, but she saw it as a necessary step to reach a wider audience and help those who might not have the same resources or support networks.

    • Social care cuts lead to unintended consequences for NHSSocial care budget cuts force people to hospitals, increasing costs and making privatization easier. Families step in, but system lacks support, leading to inefficiencies in healthcare.

      Social care cuts can lead to unintended consequences for the National Health Service (NHS) in the UK. When social care budgets are cut, people who require care at home may end up in hospitals due to emergencies, occupying beds that could have been used for other patients. This not only increases the cost for the government but also makes it easier for them to privatize health services in the future. The speaker shared a personal experience of caring for her deceased husband at home, which required her to become qualified to care for him, as there were no qualified carers available. She also pointed out that families often step in to care for their loved ones out of love, but the system can exploit this by not providing adequate support or resources. Ultimately, the lack of investment in social care can lead to inefficiencies in the healthcare system as a whole.

    • Governments' Decision on Austerity and HealthcareGovernments' austerity measures can lead to underfunding essential services like healthcare, which is problematic for an aging population. Universal healthcare systems like the NHS in the UK ensure accessibility and affordability, while fragmented and expensive systems like the US healthcare leave many uninsured or in debt.

      Austerity is a conscious decision made by governments each day, which can lead to underfunding essential services like healthcare. This is problematic, especially with an aging population, as everyone will eventually require healthcare. The NHS in the UK is a solution to this, providing universal healthcare for all, from the rich to the poor. However, in contrast, the US healthcare system is fragmented and expensive, leaving many uninsured or burdened with medical debt. The speaker's personal experience with both systems highlights the significant difference in accessibility and affordability. Ultimately, it is crucial to recognize the importance of accessible, affordable healthcare for all and the potential consequences of underfunding it.

    • American healthcare system: A lack of safety net leading to financial ruinThe speaker critiques the American healthcare system for requiring individuals to purchase private insurance, leading to potential financial ruin from medical expenses, and criticizes excessive spending on insurance executives and consultants.

      The speaker passionately believes that the American healthcare system, which requires individuals to purchase private insurance and pays for a significant portion of the costs, is flawed and leads to a lack of safety net. They express concern that one misfortune or illness could lead to financial ruin. The speaker also criticizes the large amounts of money spent on insurance executives and consultants instead of directly on healthcare. They are disheartened by the state of American politics and the media's focus on negative aspects, but are hopeful based on recent election results and the strong support for pro-choice policies.

    • Skepticism towards political leaders, but acknowledging potential goodDespite personal skepticism, assess leaders' policies and actions, not just vibes or connections. Prefer Biden's redistributive policies over current British government's.

      The average person, regardless of political affiliations or socio-economic status, is generally good. However, it's the wealthy and powerful individuals who often cause harm and misdirection in politics. In the context of British politics, the speaker expresses skepticism towards Labor Party leader Keir Starmer, but acknowledges that his policies might be preferable to the current government's. The speaker admires U.S. President Joe Biden for his redistributive policies, even though they may not align with their personal preferences or beliefs. Ultimately, the speaker advocates for paying close attention to political figures and their actions, rather than relying on vibes or personal connections.

    • Concerns about Starmer's leadership and inclusivityThe speaker raises concerns about Starmer's leadership, including issues of inclusivity and the apparent exclusion of certain voices. They also criticize his focus on winning over media and business owners instead of engaging with the grassroots.

      The speaker believes that while Starmer has the potential to win the UK Labour Party leadership and do a good job, there are concerns about the party's inclusivity and the apparent exclusion of certain voices. The speaker also criticizes the coordination of the media in the UK and feels that Starmer is focusing too much on winning over newspaper and business owners instead of engaging with the grassroots of the party. The speaker values the UK for its social safety net, lack of guns, and the NHS, but dislikes the coordinated media and the apparent managed democracy. The speaker finds the idea of "leftist media" in the UK amusing and wishes for more authentic engagement from political leaders with the people.

    • SAG Strike Affects Deadpool 3 Production, Ryan Reynolds Shares Unexpected Tom Cruise DiscoveryThe SAG strike disrupts Deadpool 3 production, Ryan Reynolds shares Tom Cruise's odorless trait, and upcoming interviews include Scotland's first minister and Hamzah Yusuf.

      The Screen Actors Guild is currently on strike, affecting the production of Deadpool 3, and Ryan Reynolds expressed his excitement for the return of the project. During the discussion, Reynolds shared an unexpected discovery about Tom Cruise - he is entirely odorless. Reynolds also acknowledged the unique ability of union leaders like Mick Lynch and Eddie Dempsey to rally crowds, making him nervous about sharing a stage with them. The podcast also announced upcoming interviews with Scotland's first minister, Hamzah Yusuf, and encouraged listeners to send questions for him. The podcast, Pod Save the UK, is a production of Crooked Media, and listeners are invited to submit questions or suggestions for future episodes.

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    Will Young: popstar to politician? Plus Westminster ceasefire row

    Nish and guest co-presenter Liz Bates set the scene on what went on to become a chaotic night  in the Commons, that put speaker Lindsay Hoyle’s job at risk. They call out the “pathetic and petty” political game playing that sought to use the suffering of people in Gaza to embarrass the  Labour Party. There are also harsh words for Business Secretary Kemi Badenoch for using the Commons to settle scores in her row with the former Post Office chairman Henry Staunton.

    Former Pop Idol winner Will Young reveals his life-long interest in politics, and tells us what it was like to see his petition on ending medical testing on dogs, debated at Westminster. For his next foray into politics, Will says he’s planning to go to Somerset to troll Jacob Rees-Mogg, and says he’s even thinking about becoming an MP himself.

    In heroes and villains, Liz takes inspiration from Samatha Morton, while Nish defends Indian cuisine. Plus find out why Nish is channelling Carrie Bradshaw!

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    Guest:

    Will Young: singer, actor and writer

     

    Audio credits:

    Sky News
    parliamentlive.tv
    Thames Television / Freemantle Media
    BAFTA

     

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    Sunak in Israel, by-elections and back to Bibby

    Sunak in Israel, by-elections and back to Bibby

    The crisis in Israel and Gaza presents a huge challenge for our politicians, both internationally and at home. With protests on the streets and spikes in religious hate crimes, every word uttered by our leaders is diplomatically loaded. Nish and Coco discuss the difficulties of Labour’s position, and then return to record a fresh section at the start of this podcast in reaction to Rishi Sunak’s surprise overnight visit to Israel.

    Pia Sinha of the Prison Reform Trust helps us understand why our prisons are full to bursting, and whether emergency action from the Justice Secretary will solve the problem. With asylum seekers being returned to the Bibby Stockholm accommodation barge, Anoosh Chakelian of The New Statesman, tells us about meeting some of those men. Plus she also gives us the lowdown on two very intriguing by-elections this week.

    Heroes and Villains returns, which is more bad news for disgraced former Tory MP Peter Bone. Plus find out why Coco and her cat could be heading for a divorce.

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    Guests:

    Pia Sinha, Director of The Prison Reform Trust

    Anoosh Chakelian, Britain Editor of The New Statesman

     

    Audio credits:

    Sky News

    @TheArchbishopofCanterbury

    Rochdale row tests Starmer’s leadership, plus the woman who helped take down Weinstein

    Rochdale row tests Starmer’s leadership, plus the woman who helped take down Weinstein

    A week that was supposed to bring more woe for Rishi Sunak has turned into arguably the biggest test of Keir Starmer’s leadership. Labour has had to suspend two of its parliamentary candidates for making comments about Israel. For Starmer, who’s staked his reputation on ridding Labour of anti-semitism, it’s been hugely embarrassing. Nish and Coco reflect on the farcical situation in Rochdale, where Azhar Ali will appear as a Labour candidate on the by-election ballot in a couple of weeks, despite the party having removed its support for him. 

    With the Horizon Post Office scandal having put the use of non-disclosure agreements back in the spotlight, we hear from a woman who has made it her mission to stop NDAs being used to silence victims. Zelda Perkins, a former assistant to Harvey Weinstein, tells Nish and Coco about the traumatic experience of signing her NDA, which she likens to “legal waterboarding”, and why she chose to break it to help expose the film producer’s crimes. On an optimistic note, she reveals how politicians from across the political divide are helping her to achieve change.

    Wrexham FC owners Ryan Renolds and Rob McElhenney feature in heroes and villains, as do three councillors from Warwickshire County Council. Plus find out why Nish has ditched Coco on Valentine’s Day, and why they want your Jason Statham inspired film art. 

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    Guest:

    Zelda Perkins, co-founder of Can’t Buy My Silence

     

    Audio credits:

    Sky News

    parliamentlive.tv

    ‘She Said’, Annapurna Pictures, Plan B Entertainment and Universal Pictures

    Warwickshire County Council


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    Scotland’s First Minister Humza Yousaf: Sunak, Starmer and samosas

    Scotland’s First Minister Humza Yousaf: Sunak, Starmer and samosas

    Scotland’s First Minister Humza Yousaf joins Nish and Coco to reflect on the highs and lows of his first year as leader. He takes us back to the fateful Valentine’s night phone call with Nicola Sturgeon that changed his life, and tells us how he felt watching his former mentor shed a tear at the Covid Inquiry last week.

    The First Minister talks about the helplessness he felt when his family members were trapped in Gaza, and reveals his fears for his brother-in-law, a surgeon who remains in Khan Younis. He tells how Keir Starmer called to offer his support, in stark contrast to Rishi Sunak and his then Foreign Secretary James Cleverly.

    Their wide-ranging conversation also takes in King Charles’ shock cancer news, independence and Brexit, and the challenge the SNP faces at the next general election. Plus there’s Celtic FC, samosas and learn why his first ever job gave him a huge bicep! This week’s hero and villain can be found on our social media channels.

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    Guest:

    Humza Yousaf, First Minister of Scotland, and leader of the Scottish National Party

     

    Audio credits:

    UK Covid-19 Inquiry

    BBC News

    Democracy for sale, Europe’s first black leader + tea with Obama

    Democracy for sale, Europe’s first black leader + tea with Obama

    This week Nish and Coco ask if our politics is on sale to those with the deepest pockets? The Conservative Party would love us all to move on from the row around the £15 million donation from Frank Hester, but it’s a story that highlights the often murky world of political funding. Nish and Coco talk to investigative journalist Peter Geoghagen about what the rules are, what donors get for their money, and whether there’s a better way to do it.

    Dodgy donations have also cast a bit of a cloud over a momentous week in Welsh politics, which saw the appointment of Vaughan Gething as the first black leader of a European country. Journalist Will Hayward explains why it hasn’t been an easy ride for him so far and why he’s got a rocky road ahead. Plus in other news, MP’s and Lords play ‘ping pong’ with the Government’s Rwanda Bill, and there’s a new name in the Tory leadership frame.

    Competent and popular politician spotted at Downing Street shock: Nish and Coco discuss President Obama’ popping in for a cup of tea with Rishi Sunak. Plus a new sighting of Princess Kate raises more questions about the royal PR machine. In this week’s hero and villain, find out why a Glasgow record shop has amused Nish and why a Lord has annoyed Coco.

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    Guests:

    Will Hayward, Welsh affairs editor at WalesOnline

    Peter Geoghagen, investigative journalist and author of the Democracy for Sale Substack

     

    Audio credits:

    ITV News

    ITV News West Country 

     

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