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    Will Young: popstar to politician? Plus Westminster ceasefire row

    enFebruary 22, 2024

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    • Labour's stance on Gaza and political pressuresLabour calls for a humanitarian ceasefire in Gaza amidst political pressures, reflecting the complexities and unpredictability of the political landscape

      Politics and real life can clash, as seen with Labour's stance on the conflict in Gaza and the pressure they face from opposing parties. This week on Pod Save the UK, Liz Bates filled in as co-host, sharing her experiences as a political correspondent at Sky News and her recent adventures in New York. Will Young also joined the conversation, discussing his journey from pop idol to political campaigner. Amidst the discussion, the group touched on the ongoing situation in Gaza, where Labour has recently called for a humanitarian ceasefire following pressure from the SNP and other parties. The political landscape can be unpredictable, and parties must navigate complex situations while trying to maintain their positions.

    • UK Parliament debates Middle East conflict amid political maneuveringThe UK's Parliament is debating a humanitarian ceasefire in the Middle East, but political maneuvering and party divisions have overshadowed the discussions. The US has called for a temporary ceasefire, potentially signaling a shift in international opinion.

      The ongoing conflict in the Middle East, specifically in Gaza, has led to intense political maneuvering in the UK's Parliament. Keir Starmer and the Labour Party have been advocating for a humanitarian ceasefire, following the lead of their Five Eyes partners and the United Nations. However, the situation has been overshadowed by petty Westminster politics, with parties trying to exploit divisions within the Labour Party for political gain. The SNP and the government have proposed amendments to a motion, which, although not binding, has led to debates and votes on various amendments. The US, a key player in the region, has now called for a temporary ceasefire, potentially indicating a shift in international opinion towards Israel's response to the terrorist attacks. Ultimately, the UK's parliamentary proceedings hold little sway over the situation, but the discussions and votes serve as a reflection of the complex geopolitical landscape and the ongoing struggle for influence and public opinion.

    • Public row between Kemi Badenoch and Henry Staunton over Horizon IT scandal compensation paymentsPolitical figures should be truthful and transparent, especially when dealing with sensitive issues that affect people's lives, to maintain public trust and support.

      The Conservative Party in the UK is embroiled in internal politics, with Business Secretary Kemi Badenoch and Henry Staunton engaging in a public row over compensation payments for victims of the Horizon IT scandal. Badenoch accused Staunton of lying and damaging confidence in the compensation schemes, while Staunton stood by his claim that a senior civil servant advised delaying payments. The incident has put Badenoch on the wrong side of the scandal and raised questions about her conduct. Additionally, she was found to have misrepresented the status of trade talks with Canada. These incidents may harm her reputation and make it difficult for the government to maintain support. It's important for political figures to be truthful and transparent, especially when dealing with sensitive issues that affect people's lives.

    • Will Young's Activism Against Animal TestingWill Young, a former Pop Idol winner, is now an influential political activist advocating for an immediate ban on animal testing due to inhumane conditions and lack of regulations, gaining media attention through his actions.

      Will Young, the second place winner of Pop Idol 2,002, has had an impressive music career, but more recently, he's become an influential political activist. He's gained attention for his advocacy against animal testing, specifically at a breeding facility in Cambridgeshire called MBR Acres. He's called for an immediate ban on testing on dogs due to the inhumane conditions and lack of regulations. Will's activism led him to handcuff himself to the gates of MBR Acres and gain significant media coverage. He believes in the power of shared knowledge and information to create cohesion and change. This passion for activism is a surprising turn for the once shy and nerdy Politics student and Pop Idol winner.

    • Celebrity activism driving change in animal welfare politicsWill Young's activism led to increased funding for non-animal testing methods in politics, highlighting the impact of celebrity activism in driving change for animal welfare causes.

      Celebrity activism can lead to meaningful change in political spheres, particularly in the area of animal welfare. The speaker, Will Young, shared his experience of leaving the Tory party due to their lack of commitment to animal welfare legislation, and subsequently met with Keir Starmer and became involved in labor politics. During a debate in Westminster Hall, Young was disappointed with the Tory ministers' stance on animal testing and walked out in protest. The debate featured MPs from various parties, including the Conservative Party's Tracey Crouch, who acknowledged the importance of animal testing in medical advancements but also expressed complexity in the issue. Young's lobbying efforts led to increased funding for non-animal testing methods, demonstrating the impact of celebrity activism in driving political change. Despite the challenges and skepticism, Young remains committed to using his platform to advocate for animal welfare causes.

    • The House of Commons: Familiar or Intimidating?Former PM David Cameron highlights the need to address access and representation in politics, noting the contrast between privileged and diverse backgrounds and the underrepresentation of women in the House of Commons.

      The experience of working in politics, specifically in the House of Commons, can be vastly different depending on one's background and upbringing. For those who have attended prestigious schools, the grandeur and familiarity of the institution can be comforting. However, for others, particularly those from more diverse or working-class backgrounds, the experience can be intimidating and even disheartening. David Cameron, a former British Prime Minister, shared his perspective on this issue, admitting that the grandeur of Parliament reminded him of his school days. He acknowledged that this familiarity could potentially hinder efforts to increase diversity in politics. Moreover, Cameron noted the stark contrast between the two major parties, drawing a comparison to the houses of Hogwarts from Harry Potter. He observed that the Tories seemed to exude an air of entitlement and complacency, while Labor appeared more diverse and inclusive. The debates in the House of Commons, according to Cameron, were often disappointing, with many members appearing more interested in their phones than in the important matters at hand. He found the male-dominated environment particularly frustrating, believing that women's voices were underrepresented. Overall, Cameron's insights highlight the importance of addressing the issue of access and representation in politics, ensuring that the corridors of power truly reflect the diversity of the population they serve.

    • Navigating new social environmentsObserving others and gradually asserting oneself can help navigate new social environments. Finding inspiration in those with similar values and opposing unjust hierarchies can lead to personal growth and empowerment.

      Navigating unfamiliar social environments, especially those with established norms and hierarchies, can be intimidating and challenging. For the speaker, joining the journalism world meant learning the ropes and finding her place among seasoned professionals. She found inspiration in observing others, like Jess Phillips, and gradually asserted herself. The speaker's political leanings shifted towards Labour due to her opposition to the Tories and their sense of entitlement, especially during the COVID-19 pandemic. The final straw came when she felt disrespected by those in power during a difficult personal time. Ultimately, she found the courage to use her platform to express her views and challenge those in positions of authority.

    • Speaker expresses concern and anger towards divisive political figuresPoliticians' divisive actions harm marginalized groups, particularly LGBTQIA individuals and immigrants, and the speaker calls for stronger support and action from political parties.

      The speaker expresses deep concern and anger towards certain political figures and their policies, which she believes are divisive, harmful, and potentially dangerous for marginalized groups, particularly LGBTQIA individuals and immigrants. She accuses these figures of manipulating issues for political gain and creating a hostile environment. The speaker also expresses disappointment with the lack of data and support for these groups from the relevant authorities. She fears that if these politicians remain in power, the country could head towards a state of division and potential harm to vulnerable populations. The speaker's activism stems from her experiences and observations, and she believes that performers and politicians share some similarities in terms of getting attention and making an impact. She feels unsafe as a gay man in the current climate and calls for stronger support and action from political parties.

    • Reflecting on politics with hopeThe Labour party's commitment to issues like animal welfare inspires the speaker, despite challenges and distractions of being an MP.

      Despite the challenges and disappointments in politics, the speaker remains hopeful and even considers running for office due to the positive experiences and values she's encountered within the Labour party. The speaker admires the party's commitment to issues like animal welfare and feels a strong connection to their goals. However, she also acknowledges the potential difficulties and distractions that come with being an MP, such as the scrutiny and unexpected distractions. Ultimately, she expresses a desire to make a difference and contribute to a more hopeful future for the country.

    • Using personal experiences to make a differenceIndividuals with care experience, like Samantha Morton and Terry Galloway, are using their experiences to improve lives of care-experienced people. Their dedication shows that everyone can make a difference, regardless of background or circumstances.

      There are individuals, like Samantha Morton and Terry Galloway, who have gone through the care system and are now using their experiences to make a difference for others. Despite facing challenges and hardships, they are dedicating their lives to improving the lives of care-experienced people. Meanwhile, in a lighter vein, Will Young's unexpected political aspirations provided some entertainment during the discussion. However, the most significant takeaway is the impact that personal experiences can have on driving positive change. Samantha Morton's heartfelt BAFTA acceptance speech and Terry Galloway's campaign for councils to recognize care experience as a protected characteristic are powerful examples of this. These individuals are using their voices to ensure that care-experienced people are heard and their needs are addressed. Their dedication serves as a reminder that everyone has the power to make a difference, no matter their background or circumstances.

    • A Man's Message of Love vs. Discrimination at York HospitalEmbrace diversity, challenge discrimination, and promote inclusivity in our actions and words.

      There are individuals, like the man who advocates for children in care, who make a significant difference in people's lives through their dedication and hard work. Meanwhile, there are others, such as the anonymous sign writer at York Hospital, whose actions perpetuate discrimination and intolerance. The man's message is one of love, acceptance, and appreciation for diversity, while the sign writer's actions are divisive and exclusionary. The incident at York Hospital serves as a reminder of the importance of promoting inclusivity and challenging discriminatory behaviors. It's essential to open our hearts and minds to new experiences, including different foods and cultures, and to embrace the richness that diversity brings. Let us strive to be more like the man who champions for children in care and less like the anonymous sign writer. Let us celebrate our differences and learn from one another.

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    With the Horizon Post Office scandal having put the use of non-disclosure agreements back in the spotlight, we hear from a woman who has made it her mission to stop NDAs being used to silence victims. Zelda Perkins, a former assistant to Harvey Weinstein, tells Nish and Coco about the traumatic experience of signing her NDA, which she likens to “legal waterboarding”, and why she chose to break it to help expose the film producer’s crimes. On an optimistic note, she reveals how politicians from across the political divide are helping her to achieve change.

    Wrexham FC owners Ryan Renolds and Rob McElhenney feature in heroes and villains, as do three councillors from Warwickshire County Council. Plus find out why Nish has ditched Coco on Valentine’s Day, and why they want your Jason Statham inspired film art. 

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    Guest:

    Zelda Perkins, co-founder of Can’t Buy My Silence

     

    Audio credits:

    Sky News

    parliamentlive.tv

    ‘She Said’, Annapurna Pictures, Plan B Entertainment and Universal Pictures

    Warwickshire County Council


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    Sunak in Israel, by-elections and back to Bibby

    Sunak in Israel, by-elections and back to Bibby

    The crisis in Israel and Gaza presents a huge challenge for our politicians, both internationally and at home. With protests on the streets and spikes in religious hate crimes, every word uttered by our leaders is diplomatically loaded. Nish and Coco discuss the difficulties of Labour’s position, and then return to record a fresh section at the start of this podcast in reaction to Rishi Sunak’s surprise overnight visit to Israel.

    Pia Sinha of the Prison Reform Trust helps us understand why our prisons are full to bursting, and whether emergency action from the Justice Secretary will solve the problem. With asylum seekers being returned to the Bibby Stockholm accommodation barge, Anoosh Chakelian of The New Statesman, tells us about meeting some of those men. Plus she also gives us the lowdown on two very intriguing by-elections this week.

    Heroes and Villains returns, which is more bad news for disgraced former Tory MP Peter Bone. Plus find out why Coco and her cat could be heading for a divorce.

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    Guests:

    Pia Sinha, Director of The Prison Reform Trust

    Anoosh Chakelian, Britain Editor of The New Statesman

     

    Audio credits:

    Sky News

    @TheArchbishopofCanterbury

    Sparkles with Starmer plus Rob Delaney, NHS champion

    Sparkles with Starmer plus Rob Delaney, NHS champion

    Despite being an American, who can’t even vote in this country, Rob Delaney has become an outspoken champion of the NHS. His love for our health service was born from tragedy: losing his young son Henry to cancer. He tells Nish and Coco why we have to fight for the NHS, and compares it to an American system which enriches CEOs and advertising execs. Find out why he thinks Joe Biden is the best president of his lifetime, and what he thinks of Keir Starmer. Plus with a cameo in the new Mission Impossible film, Rob is perfectly placed to answer Nish’s question: what does Tom Cruise smell like?

    Party Conference season continues, with insights into two very different gatherings: Labour in Liverpool and the Greens in Brighton. Coco describes what she got up to when she went down to the seaside at the invitation of Greens co-leader Carla Denyer - did they manage to woo her to their cause? Plus George Parker of the Financial Times, gives us all the gossip from the Labour get-together - was all that glitters gold? Did Keir Starmer convince as a Prime Minister in waiting?

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    Guests:

    Rob Delaney, comedian, actor and author of ‘A Heart That Works’

    George Parker, political editor of The Financial Times

     

    Useful links:

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    https://www.hachette.co.uk/titles/rob-delaney-2/a-heart-that-works/9781399710848/

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    Audio credits:

    Royal College of Nursing 

    Sky News

    @robdelaney

    A year of Sunak, and why housing is eating our economy

    A year of Sunak, and why housing is eating our economy

    As the Israel Gaza crisis continues, pressure grows on both Rishi Sunak and Keir Starmer to back calls for a ceasefire. Sacha Deshmukh, Chief Executive of Amnesty International UK, explains why he supports it and what else needs to happen for it to be meaningful. He also has advice for how you can help, either through safe protest, or through donation. Nish and Coco also ‘celebrate’ Rishi Sunak’s year at Number 10, revealing their highs and lows of 12 months of Sunak.

    Is the Government’s promise to end ‘no-fault’ evictions being kicked into the long grass? Nish and Coco try and work out the political manoeuvring, with the help of Toby Lloyd, who was the Downing Street housing adviser who persuaded Theresa May to promote the policy when she was Prime Minister. He also reveals what it was like to work inside the cramped rooms of Number 10…where there’s every chance that your meeting might be disturbed by the Chancellor’s wife coming home with the food shop!

    Plus find out why Coco has been having a “fat bear week”. This week Nish and Coco’s great nominations for hero and villain of the week can be found on our social media platforms…find out by why bankers are winding up Nish, and why Coco’s fallen in love with a sheepdog.

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    Guests:

    Sacha Deshmukh, Chief Executive of Amnesty International UK

    Toby Lloyd, Housing policy expert

     

    Audio credits:

    The Guardian

    10 Downing Street

    Parliamentlive.tv