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    The Death of Deif – A turning point? With Ronen Bergman

    enJuly 15, 2024
    Who was Mohammed Deif and why was he significant?
    What operation led to Mohammed Deif's assassination?
    How did Israeli intelligence approach the assassination of Rafa Salama?
    What concerns arise from using heavy munitions in targeted assassinations?
    How has Hamas responded to the assassination of Rafa Salama?

    Podcast Summary

    • Deif's assassination impactThe assassination of Hamas military wing commander Mohammed Deif is considered a significant turning point in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, marking the most important military and intelligence achievement since the beginning of the war.

      The assassination of Mohammed Deif, the longtime commander of Hamas' military wing in Gaza, marks a significant turning point in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Deif, who was responsible for the deaths of numerous Israelis and the greatest suffering of the Palestinian people since 1948, had a mythical status among Palestinians due to his ability to evade Israeli assassination attempts for over a decade. His death, which occurred as a result of an extraordinary intelligence and military operation on July 14, 2016, is being hailed as the most important military and intelligence achievement since the beginning of the war. The impact of Deif's death on Hamas and the ongoing hostage and ceasefire negotiations is a topic of much discussion, and Ronan Bergman, an Israeli investigative journalist and author, provides valuable insights on this matter.

    • Targeted assassination controversyIsraeli intelligence believed they had identified Hamas military commander Rafa Salama's location and used heavy munitions to ensure his death, but concerns over civilian casualties remain a controversial issue

      Israeli intelligence believed they had identified the location of Hamas military commander Rafa Salama and dropped a large amount of explosives on the compound at a specific time, based on their best intelligence. The bombing was intended to ensure Salama's death, as they believed there was no way for him to escape. Despite initial uncertainty, there are now signs that Salama may indeed have been killed in the attack, including the recovery of body parts and Hamas' lack of confirmation of his survival. The use of heavy munitions in targeted assassinations is a controversial topic, with concerns over civilian casualties. In the past, Israeli officials have advocated for larger bombs when targeting high-value targets, but have been cautious due to the potential for collateral damage. The decision to use heavy munitions in the Salama case was likely based on the perceived importance of the target and the intelligence available at the time.

    • Focus and determination in the face of adversityThe importance of single-minded focus and the potential consequences of half-measured efforts was emphasized through the failed assassination attempt on Sheikh Ahmad Yassin, and the contrasting public profiles of Hamas leaders Muhammad Deif and Ismail Haniyeh.

      Determination and focus are crucial when it comes to achieving a goal, even in the face of adversity. The discussion highlighted an attempt to assassinate a senior Hamas leader, Sheikh Ahmad Yassin, during a mealtime when they thought everyone was present. Despite the failure to eliminate him due to the inability to move his wheelchair to the third floor, the attackers' resolve to kill their target was evident. This incident underscores the importance of single-minded focus and the potential consequences of half-measured efforts. Another key point from the conversation was the evolution of Hamas leadership, particularly the contrasting public profiles of Muhammad Deif and Ismail Haniyeh. While Haniyeh was a visible political figure, Deif was an elusive military commander, known as a "ghost." The discussion provided insights into Deif's background, his role in Hamas, and the numerous assassination attempts against him. These insights underscore the significance of understanding the different facets of complex organizations and their leaders.

    • Muhammadif's death implications for HamasMuhammadif's death, if true, would leave Hamas' military forces without clear leadership, potentially causing disarray and confusion, marking the end of an era and creating a power vacuum

      Muhammadif, the enigmatic military commander of Hamas, was a ghostly figure who publicly emerged only during times of conflict, planning and executing attacks against Israelis and Americans for decades. He was the chief of staff of Hamas' military wing, wielding significant power over the organization's military operations. His death, assuming it has occurred, would have significant tactical, strategic, military, and symbolic implications for Hamas. Israel may take its time to acknowledge his passing, prolonging the myth. Without Muhammadif's command, Hamas' military forces would be left without clear leadership, potentially leading to disarray and confusion. His death would mark the end of an era for Hamas' military wing, leaving a power vacuum that would need to be filled.

    • Impact of Rafa Salah's assassination on HamasIsraeli assassination of Hamas military leader Rafa Salah may not significantly impact Hamas' decisions or negotiations, as underlying interests for peace remain.

      The assassination of Rafa Salah, a key Hamas military leader, while significant, is unlikely to have a major strategic impact on Hamas' decisions or negotiations with Israel. Salah's death is important for Israeli intelligence as he was centralizing the military effort of Hamas in an important area, but Hamas is facing a challenge in announcing a successor without confirming his death. Hamas' response to the assassination could be seen as a concession to Israel, and they have not yet frozen negotiations as a result. The underlying interest for both sides remains the same: achieving a ceasefire and permanent Israeli withdrawal from Gaza.

    • Israeli-Palestinian conflict prioritiesMilitary pressure on Hamas doesn't guarantee concessions, Hamas seeks permanent ceasefire, Netanyahu focuses on military victory, fundamental differences between Hamas and Israel unlikely to change soon

      The Israeli-Palestinian conflict, specifically the situation between Hamas and Israel, remains complex and contentious, with the priority of each side influencing the negotiations. The belief that military pressure on Hamas leads to concessions has been challenged, as the November deal was reportedly reached before the Israeli invasion and due to Hamas' desire to release the hostages. The current conflict between Hamas' priority of a permanent ceasefire and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's focus on military victory further complicates the situation. Despite the death of a key Hamas figure, the fundamental differences between the two sides seem unlikely to change soon. It's unclear what response Hamas might have to such an event, but their capacity for significant action is currently constrained.

    • Impact of Bahabadev's death on HamasThe death of Hamas military leader Bahabadev, a legendary figure with unique knowledge and capacity, could significantly impact Hamas' ability to project force against Israel. Israeli intelligence's ability to identify and kill him is a major achievement, boosting Israel's strength and power after conflicts.

      The death of a key Hamas military leader, Bahabadev, could significantly impact Hamas' ability to project force against Israel, as he was a legendary figure with unique knowledge and capacity. Israeli intelligence's ability to identify and kill him at a specific location and time is a major achievement, reinstating their strength and power after the damage caused by previous military conflicts. The symbolic significance of taking out Bahabadev, who was one of Hamas' two symbols, is also noteworthy, as it mirrors historical allied efforts to target key leaders in times of war.

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