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    mind body parenting podcast

    Explore "mind body parenting podcast" with insightful episodes like "How burnout and adrenal fatigue affect our parenting (and health) with Shelley Clarke", "Finding purpose alongside mothering with Emily Bagaric...", "How to effectively share the familial mental load with Elyse McNeil from Share to Thrive...", "Helping our children through their fears and anxieties with Shelley Clarke" and "Creating Compassionate Caring Classrooms with Primary Educator Attalia Egerton" from podcasts like ""Mind Body Parenting Podcast with Shelley Clarke", "Mind Body Parenting Podcast with Shelley Clarke", "Mind Body Parenting Podcast with Shelley Clarke", "Mind Body Parenting Podcast with Shelley Clarke" and "Mind Body Parenting Podcast with Shelley Clarke"" and more!

    Episodes (52)

    How burnout and adrenal fatigue affect our parenting (and health) with Shelley Clarke

    How burnout and adrenal fatigue affect our parenting (and health) with Shelley Clarke

    Parenting comes with many seasons, some more comfortable and enjoyable than others... so what do we do when we feel ourselves being stretched to our very limits? In today's episode Shelley chats to us candidly about navigating her family and burnout and ways that we can support ourselves to move through these hard phases in our parenting.
     
    In this episode you'll learn about:
    - the power of listening to your body and it's yes' and no's
    - how you can reframe rest and connection as the most productive thing you can do
    -  why the body remembers certain times of year and how to navigate that
    - the healing phenomenon of laughter with friends
    - what coming back to the basics can do for your health... and so much more!

    If you want to shift back into energy and connection within your family, then this is the podcast episode for you!

    21 days of play course

    Continue the conversation with Shelley here:
    https://www.facebook.com/shelleyclarkemindbodyparenting
    https://www.instagram.com/_shelleyclarke_/

    This podcast is produced by Nikki O'Brien from Quintessential Being

    Finding purpose alongside mothering with Emily Bagaric...

    Finding purpose alongside mothering with Emily Bagaric...

    Re-establishing who one is outside the role of Mother is often layered with conflicting emotions, connecting to purpose and sinking into your why can help this identity shift. In this episode of the Mind, Body, Parenting podcast Shelley chats with Emily Bagaric about coming back to oneself for inspiration, joy and a more fulfilling life!

    Emily  Bagaric is a former teacher, circle holder, parent coach and motherhood support practitioner, passionate about transforming the way that mothers meet themselves and therefore raise their children.

    In this episode you'll learn about:
    - the importance of having support structures in place
    - why it is more than ok to show up imperfectly in all aspects of motherhood, life and business
    -  what the practice of feeling into your body can do for you and your children
    - the strength that comes from connecting back to your inner power in micro moments
    - how to offer play and connection when kids behaviour is hard... and so much more!

    If you want to feel more connected to purpose alongside your mothering journey then this is the podcast episode for you!

    21 days of play course

    Continue the conversation with Shelley here:
    https://www.facebook.com/shelleyclarkemindbodyparenting
    https://www.instagram.com/_shelleyclarke_/

    Connect with Emily Bagaric here:
    IG - @embagaric
    FB - @ebagaric
    www.emilybagaric.com

    This podcast is produced by Nikki O'Brien from Quintessential Being

    How to effectively share the familial mental load with Elyse McNeil from Share to Thrive...

    How to effectively share the familial mental load with Elyse McNeil from Share to Thrive...

    Managing the mental load of the family is heavy and can often be an invisible pinch point in relationships. In this episode of the Mind, Body, Parenting podcast listen as Shelley chats with clinical psychologist and Founder of Share to Thrive, Elyse McNeil about how to share the mental load, communicate well with your partner and tackle the list of familial responsibilities as a team!
     
    In this episode you'll learn about:
    - How Elyse became a clinical psychologist
    - What the expertise gap means if you're the lead parent and how to share that better
    - The importance of having a structured conversation with your partner to alleviate explosive conversations
    - What routine and non-routine tasks are and how they affect the mental load
    - Why separating the mental load from the physical load can help with understanding
    - The myth of the 50/50 split and how to navigate that... and so much more!

    If you want to feel less resentment and more support and validation in all aspects of raising a family, then this is the podcast episode for you!

    21 days of play course

    Continue the conversation with Shelley here:
    https://www.facebook.com/shelleyclarkemindbodyparenting
    https://www.instagram.com/_shelleyclarke_/

    Connect with Elyse McNeil from Share to Thrive here:
    IG - @sharetothrive
    Sharing the Load Course
    https://mentallabour.sharetothrive.com/

    This podcast is produced by Nikki O'Brien from Quintessential Being

    Helping our children through their fears and anxieties with Shelley Clarke

    Helping our children through their fears and anxieties with Shelley Clarke

    It's heartbreaking to watch our children have fears and anxieties in life, but how do we help them? In this episode of the Mind, Body, parenting podcast listen as Shelley shares some brilliant tools and techniques to help our children and empower ourselves as parents to help our children when they're frozen with fear.
     
    In this episode you'll learn about:
    - Why looking at the environmental circumstances and developmental age first is key
    - Asking yourself as a parent what this fear brings up in you
    - Different attachment play games to help open up the conversation with your kids
    - How to know when to set a loving limit and when to acquiesce
    - The power of telling our children stories that involve overcoming fears... and so much more!

    If you want to help your child actually move through their feelings when it comes to fears and anxieties and empower their resilience, then this is the podcast episode for you!

    21 days of play course

    Continue the conversation with Shelley here:
    https://www.facebook.com/shelleyclarkemindbodyparenting
    https://www.instagram.com/_shelleyclarke_/

    This podcast is produced by Nikki O'Brien from Quintessential Being

    Creating Compassionate Caring Classrooms with Primary Educator Attalia Egerton

    Creating Compassionate Caring Classrooms with Primary Educator Attalia Egerton

    In this episode Shelley chats with fellow Marion Method mentor Attalia Egerton.  Passionate about psycho-spiritual inquiry, re-parenting and re-culturing, Attalia is also a primary school teacher, kinesiologist, somatic meditation and embodiment facilitator and mother to two. Her vision is mentoring other parents and teachers in integrating this work into their lives and the education system at large.

    In this episode you'll learn about:
    - what bringing a psycho-spiritual lens to the classroom does for Attalia
    - why all teachers can feel *less* exhausted when using the Marion Method in class
    - the importance of speaking authentically to children and giving them a safe space to be themselves
    - why understanding the 'love' and 'will' needs/hurts according to the Marion Method helps teachers in the classroom
    - how competition is embedded into the school system and what it is doing to our children... and so much more!

     If you are believe it is the birthright of our children to feel safe and connected and to thrive in the classroom, then this is the podcast episode for you!

    Shelley's 21 days of Play course

    Continue the conversation with Shelley here:
    https://www.facebook.com/shelleyclarkemindbodyparenting
    https://www.instagram.com/_shelleyclarke_/

    Find Attalia Egerton here:
    IG: @attaliaegerton
    FB: @attaliaegerton.com.au
    https://attaliaegerton.com.au/

    This podcast is produced by Nikki O'Brien from Quintessential Being

    Somatic Practices for ourselves and our parenting with Abbey Stanbrook

    Somatic Practices for ourselves and our parenting with Abbey Stanbrook

    In this episode Shelley chats with fellow Aware Parenting Instructor and somatic wellness coach Abbey Stanbrook. Abbey supports families to find balance in their bodies and within their family units, is also the founder of The Somatic Seasons podcast and runs circles and workshops for families online and in person.  Listen as she shares with us about the different parts of our nervous system and how they impact our parenting.

    In this episode you'll learn about:
    - what a grounding and orienting practice sounds and feels like
    - the voo sound and how it can bring your body back into balance
    - what hyper and hypo activity in your nervous system may look like
    - the relationship between sympathetic activation and social engagement is
    - how to work through anger and grief as a parent
    - some easy to use tools and practices to help when your nervous system is activated... and so much more!

     If you are wanting to feel like you are equipped with the tools to be a more calm, balanced parent, then this is the podcast episode for you!

    Continue the conversation with Shelley here:
    https://www.facebook.com/shelleyclarkemindbodyparenting
    https://www.instagram.com/_shelleyclarke_/

    Find Abbey Stanbrook here:
    IG: @abbeyheartlove
    FB: Abby Stanbrook
    Website

    This podcast is produced by Nikki O'Brien from Quintessential Being

    Creating a sense of safety in our classrooms...

    Creating a sense of safety in our classrooms...

    Continuing with the back to school theme, this week Shelley speaks to the anxieties parents feel at this time of year as well as sharing a story about her own experience that has come up for her in this last week. And if you are the person that the child is being handed over to... carers, educators and teachers, then this episode speaks to you about how to cultivate a sense of safety in the classroom.
     
    In this episode you'll learn about:
    - How to deal with tough parenting moments
    - A practical process to help your own inner child
    - The difference your tone and expression make to a child feeling safe
    -  How to listen to a child's feelings
    - What creates a safe environment for children to learn in

    If you want to support the children in your care, then this is the podcast episode for you!

    Email Shelley about speaking to your educators here

    Continue the conversation with Shelley here:
    https://www.facebook.com/shelleyclarkemindbodyparenting
    https://www.instagram.com/_shelleyclarke_/

    This podcast is produced by Nikki O'Brien from Quintessential Being

    A moment of pause to take stock on the year that's been with Shelley Clarke

    A moment of pause to take stock on the year that's been with Shelley Clarke

    In the final solo episode for 2022, listen as host Shelley Clarke shares with us a moment of pause as she reflects and celebrates on the year that's been. As humans wired to be looking forward to achieving the next thing, we can quite often forget to take stock and celebrate, join Shelley as she encourages us to pause and do the same.

    In this episode you'll hear about:
    - Shelley's intention for the year as she began 2022
    - how intention coupled with action can create beautiful momentum
    - why it is important to celebrate the things we don't often see as parents
    - how Shelley is 'listening to life' and what that looks like for her in 2023
    - how thankful she is for each and every podcast listener 

    21 days of play course

    Continue the conversation with Shelley here:
    https://www.facebook.com/shelleyclarkemindbodyparenting
    https://www.instagram.com/_shelleyclarke_/

    This podcast is produced by Nikki O'Brien from Quintessential Being

    Sharing a new parenting paradigm with grandparents and caregivers

    Sharing a new parenting paradigm with grandparents and caregivers

    In this incredibly raw episode, listen as Shelley interviews her parents, vulnerably discussing how they came to understand and eventually embrace a shift in parenting paradigm.  Listen as Shelley begins this episode by reading her parents a heartfelt letter, touching on the nuances that come with doing it differently from how she was parented.

    In this episode you'll learn about:
    - what the hardest parts of learning a new way are for grandparents
    - how to deal with misbehaviour when we are frozen in our own nervous system
    - the importance in connection and relationships when bringing up kids
    - the anaolgy Shelley's Dad offers which perfectly sums up how to communicate a new parenting paradigm 
    - the turning point in Shelley's Mum understanding the importance of listening to feelings... and so much more!

    If you are wanting to know how to have the conversation around parenting this way with Grandparents and caregivers, then this is the podcast episode for you!

    FREE downloadable PDF for Grandparents and caregivers
    https://mailchi.mp/shelleyclarke.com/grandparents



    Continue the conversation with Shelley here:
    https://www.facebook.com/shelleyclarkemindbodyparenting
    https://www.instagram.com/_shelleyclarke_/

    This podcast is produced by Nikki O'Brien from Quintessential Being

    Connection, kids and the Festive Season

    Connection, kids and the Festive Season

    We are embarking on one of the busiest times of year... the festive season! In this episode listen as host Shelley Clarke shares with us how we can prioritise connection in our family.  Hear about how to frame the big feelings that inevitably come up for our children during festive season and the tips and tools we can use to really make the most of these school holidays.

    In this episode you'll learn about:
    - what a connection plan is and how you can easily create one for your family
    - how understanding and planning 'decompression' days can benefit your child and your sanity
    - how to make your child feel safe and connected at parties and events this festive season
    -  how to use attachment play to facilitate comfort and safety for your child at family events
    - what the broken cookie and spoiled outing analogies are and how they can help you stay connected to your child

    If you are wanting to hear how to stay connected to your kids during this festive season, then this is the podcast episode for you!

    21 days of play course

    Continue the conversation with Shelley here:
    https://www.facebook.com/shelleyclarkemindbodyparenting
    https://www.instagram.com/_shelleyclarke_/

    This podcast is produced by Nikki O'Brien from Quintessential Being

    Q&A: Play, silliness, rupture and repair with Shelley Clarke

    Q&A: Play, silliness, rupture and repair with Shelley Clarke

    Continuing on from last week Shelley answers some more listener questions in this solo episode, sharing suggestions for how to respond compassionately to your children in the moments it feels hardest.

    In this episode you'll learn about:
    - what to do if silly behaviour in your children is a trigger for you
    -  why giving children lots of information to help them process what’s going on is so important
    - how to talk to a highly sensitive child that shuts down and a great game to play to help them open up
    -  why repair is so important for our children and what that looks like
    - the reasons to make sure you’ve had a chance to process your own feelings as a parent

    If you are wanting to hear how to meet your child where they are and help them shift the tension, then this is the podcast episode for you!

    21 days of play course

    Continue the conversation with Shelley here:
    https://www.facebook.com/shelleyclarkemindbodyparenting
    https://www.instagram.com/_shelleyclarke_/

    This podcast is produced by Nikki O'Brien from Quintessential Being

    Aggressive, sensory and strong-willed behaviour in children with Shelley Clarke

    Aggressive, sensory and strong-willed behaviour in children with Shelley Clarke

    In this solo episode Shelley Clarke answers some questions that listeners have sent in, sharing with us her incredible knowledge around how to navigate aggressive behaviour in children and what might help parents of sensory or strong-willed children.

    In this episode you'll learn about:
    - the role power reversal games have in helping with aggressive behaviour challenges
    - why its important to regulate your own nervous system and body before approaching aggressive behaviour
    - a simple introduction to different sensory profiles and why learning you and your families puts you ahead of the curve
    - what paying attention to your thoughts as a parent can do for your connection and relationship with your child/ren
    - how to approach strong-willed behaviour and having awareness around the intention behind your play

    If you are wanting to hear how to approach aggressive behaviour, sensory or strong-willed children, then this is the podcast episode for you!

    21 days of play course
    Attachment Play Episode

    Continue the conversation with Shelley here:
    https://www.facebook.com/shelleyclarkemindbodyparenting
    https://www.instagram.com/_shelleyclarke_/

    This podcast is produced by Nikki O'Brien from Quintessential Being

    Separation and co-parenting using Aware Parenting with Nic Wilson

    Separation and co-parenting using Aware Parenting with Nic Wilson

    In this episode Shelley chats with Founder of Peaceful Parenting, Nic Wilson. As an Aware Parenting and The Marion Method mentor, Nic shares her work through amazing and informative social media posts, paid programmes and One to One parenting support. Listen as she shares with us how to navigate co-parenting and separation using Aware Parenting. 

    In this episode you'll learn about:
    - how to let go of the grief and guilt after separating from your child's other parent
    -  Nic’s journey with attachment play and how it was a total game-changer 
    - why making friends with all feelings should be a prerequisite course for all new parents
    - what catch up crying is and why it is important to hold your child through it
    - why the key to peaceful parenting is actually creating spaciousness in yourself through self-care... and so much more!

     
    If you are wanting to let go of the should's and supposed-to's and create a great co-parenting relationship after separation, then this is the podcast episode for you!

    21 days of play course

    Continue the conversation with Shelley here:
    https://www.facebook.com/shelleyclarkemindbodyparenting
    https://www.instagram.com/_shelleyclarke_/

    Find Nic Wilson here:
    https://www.instagram.com/peacefulparenting/
    Free e-book - Attachment Play

    This podcast is produced by Nikki O'Brien from Quintessential Being

    Processing pregnancy loss with Shelley Clarke

    Processing pregnancy loss with Shelley Clarke

    *Content heads up, this podcast episode talks about miscarriage and early infant loss*

    In this episode our host Shelley Clarke explains her recent break from podcasting and vulnerably opens up about her recent pregnancy loss. Listen as Shelley bravely shares with us her story in the hope that it may help someone who has been through he same experience to feel less alone.
     
    In this episode you'll learn about:
    - the importance of ritual after a miscarriage and the role it plays in your healing
    - how everyones grieving process looks different and normalising the emotional numbness
    - how craniosacral therapy supported Shelley during this painful time
    - why it is important to honour mother and baby
    - how to support someone who is (or has) going through pregnancy or early infant loss

    If you are wanting to give yourself permission to feel and process all emotions, and get some tools to implement into your family life, then this is the podcast episode for you!

    Miscarriage and early pregnancy loss support:
    https://www.pinkelephants.org.au/
    https://www.sands.org.au/
    https://www.bearsofhope.org.au/
    https://rednosegriefandloss.org.au/

    Continue the conversation with Shelley here:
    https://www.facebook.com/shelleyclarkemindbodyparenting
    https://www.instagram.com/_shelleyclarke_/

    NTM 281: Healing from miscarriage with Shelley Clarke & Katie Parker

    This podcast is produced by Nikki O'Brien from Quintessential Being

    Empowering Children to stay connected to who they are with Zoe Haack

    Empowering Children to stay connected to who they are with Zoe Haack

    In this episode Shelley chats with child activist and Author of 'You Already Knew' Zoe Haack. 
    As a motherhood mentor, Zoe is driven to see children experience freedom and autonomy and uses her voice to explore child rights issues, and is the co founder of Akuna concepts. She believes that by bringing awareness to parents, we have the capacity to create great change for the children of today. 

    In this episode you'll learn about:
    - how Zoe brought the idea of her book into fruition from writing notes in her phone across weeks and months of breastfeeding
    - why people should think twice before giving unsolicited parenting advice out in public
    - what makes Zoe want to shift the way we as a society perceive step parents
    -  the crucial role that language plays in our children's internal dialogue as they grow
    - how to reconnect children back to their own innate ideas and wisdom... and so much more!

     
    If you are wanting to create a generation of future adults who aren't trying to unpack their childhood wounds, then this is the podcast episode for you!

    21 days of play course

    Continue the conversation with Shelley here:
    https://www.facebook.com/shelleyclarkemindbodyparenting
    https://www.instagram.com/_shelleyclarke_/

    Find Zoe Haack here:
    https://akunaconcepts.com/
    https://www.instagram.com/zoe.haack.childactivist/


    This podcast is produced by Nikki O'Brien from Quintessential Being

    Aware Parenting and teenagers with Joss Goulden

    Aware Parenting and teenagers with Joss Goulden

    In this episode Shelley chats with Aware Parenting instructor of 16 years, Joss Goulden. 
    With a background in psychology and counselling, and a love of supporting families with aware parenting and natural learning, this Mother of two teenage children has a wealth of knowledge for the Aware Parenting community. If you've ever wondered what the experience of children and parents who have practiced the Aware Parenting paradigm through the seasons of time feels like, then listen as Joss shares that with us. 
     
    In this episode you'll learn about:
    - how refusing to do sleep training and control crying led Joss to find Aware Parenting
    - the powerful ways to connect with your teenager without having to result to punishment and rewards
    - the role privacy and autonomy plays for our teenagers and why it is so vital
    - the importance of looking for the underlying needs when behaviour is challenging and meeting their needs in a way that allows respect for them, and feels good for all
    - why a conflict free household is never the goal and how to handle conflict in a way that leaves everybody feeling loved
     
    If you are wanting to cultivate an emotionally safe environment for your teenager to grow into an adult whilst staying connected to you,  then this is the podcast episode for you!

    21 days of play course

    Continue the conversation with Shelley here:
    https://www.facebook.com/shelleyclarkemindbodyparenting
    https://www.instagram.com/_shelleyclarke_/

    Find Joss Goulden here:
    https://awareparenting.com.au/

    https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100063759596832
    https://www.instagram.com/awareparentingwithjoss/

    This podcast is produced by Nikki O'Brien from Quintessential Being

    Reflecting on 10 years of being a parent with Shelley Clarke.

    Reflecting on 10 years of being a parent with Shelley Clarke.

    Listen as Shelley reflects on mothering and parenting for 10 years, speaking to the things she's learned and what she knows now that she wish she knew back then. Grab the tissues as you'll also hear her read aloud a heartfelt and stunningly honest letter she wrote to the 10 years ago version of herself. 
     
    In this episode you'll learn about:
    - why it is important to celebrate and reflect on the parenting journey so far
    - why the inner growth work has been just as much a part of Shelley's parenting as the child rearing
    - the powerful way of journaling and documenting to gain clarity on where you're going
    - the beauty in being sensitive and honouring emotions
    - what the process of moving from lots of mother rage to embracing fun 

    If you are wanting a good life, a great relationships with your kids, alongside raising your children as consciously as you can, then this is the podcast episode for you!

    21 days of Play course

    Continue the conversation with Shelley here:
    https://www.facebook.com/shelleyclarkemindbodyparenting
    https://www.instagram.com/_shelleyclarke_/

    This podcast is produced by Nikki O'Brien from Quintessential Being

    Helping our Babies Sleep through with Helena Mooney

    Helping our Babies Sleep through with Helena Mooney

    In this episode Shelley chats with certified Hand in Hand parenting instructor and Aware parenting instructor Helena Mooney. Helena is also a life coach and mother of two children,  with her wealth of knowledge and experience she loves supporting parents to have the best experience possible - when pregnant, giving birth and being a parent.

    In this episode you'll learn about:
    - the incredible, life-changing experience Helena had with her 3 week old baby that set the trajectory of her work now
    -  how searching for someone who had similar parenting values led Helena to discovering Marion Rose
    - why often as Mum's when we are at a loss we feed our babies into submission
     - how ignoring feelings during the day means they accumulate later in the day to create what is commonly known as 'witching hour'
    - a helpful routine you can get into with your newborn to listen to feelings and have a much better nights sleep for all

    If you are wanting to cultivate an emotionally safe environment for your newborn and reap the sleep benefits in the process,  then this is the podcast episode for you!

    21 days of play course

    Continue the conversation with Shelley here:
    https://www.facebook.com/shelleyclarkemindbodyparenting
    https://www.instagram.com/_shelleyclarke_/

    Find Helena Mooney here:
    https://parentingwithplay.com.au/
    https://www.facebook.com/ParentingwithPlaywithHelenaMooney
    https://www.instagram.com/helenamooney_parentingwithplay/

    This podcast is produced by Nikki O'Brien from Quintessential Being

    Conversations with Life with Lena Korn

    Conversations with Life with Lena Korn

    In this episode Shelley chats to Marion Method Mentor, Lena Korn.  Lena helps support women to come home to themselves and do the inner work to transform their lives, she lives and breathes these embodying practices. Listen as Lena speaks to the stark contrast of her dream life by intentional design now, compared to the career focused anxious Mum she was three and a half years ago. 
     
    In this episode you'll learn about:
    - how Lena's conditioning, imprints and self-worth meant she previously defined herself through her career
    - the cascade of kismet career events that led to a complete lifestyle change
    - how Lena went from overriding her feelings and feeling disconnected to embracing life on life's terms
    - the three pillars of Marion's work that have been pivotal in Lena's process
    - how our kids and animals can be key in our conversations with life

    If you are wanting to see things through a new lens that truly allows you to embrace the full magic of yourself, then this is the podcast episode for you!

    21 days of play course

    Continue the conversation with Shelley here:
    https://www.facebook.com/shelleyclarkemindbodyparenting
    https://www.instagram.com/_shelleyclarke_/

    Find Lena Korn here:
    https://www.facebook.com/lena.korn.5
    Anna Lena's Telegram channel

    This podcast is produced by Nikki O'Brien from Quintessential Being

    Setting up your Post Partum Care with Anna Cusack

    Setting up your Post Partum Care with Anna Cusack

    In this episode Shelley chats to motherhood revolutionist, Anna Cusack.  As a postpartum doula and motherhood support mentor, Anna's work in the world guides new and experienced parents through pregnancy, the fourth trimester and beyond. She reaches thousands of women every year through her work both in person and online as an author, podcaster, blogger and speaker,  with evidence-based information, searing social commentary and inspirational, actionable content.
     
    In this episode you'll learn about:
    - why it's a good idea to plan and create a support network around you postpartum especially if you're not good at asking for help
    - Anna's personal journey into Motherhood and why she is so passionate about birth advocacy and birth rights
    - the emotional and spiritual aspects to consider in postpartum care to compliment the practical care
    - why it is imperative to heal and rest early postpartum to ensure not only your physical recovery but emotionally, mentally and spiritually as well
    - understanding the physiology of what's happening hormonally and physically postpartum
    - the topsy-turvy way pregnant women tend to invest their resources and how to switch it

    If you are wanting to prepare yourself with the emotional, physical, mental and spiritual needs you'll be navigating for birth, then this is the podcast episode for you!

    21 days of play course
    Anna's book - Mama, you're not broken

    Continue the conversation with Shelley here:
    https://www.facebook.com/shelleyclarkemindbodyparenting
    https://www.instagram.com/_shelleyclarke_/

    Find Anna Cusack here:
    https://www.annacusack.com.au/
    https://www.instagram.com/annacusackpostpartum/
    https://www.facebook.com/annacusackpostpartum

    This podcast is produced by Nikki O'Brien from Quintessential Being