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    46. Arancha González Laya: The World’s Most Powerful Organisations

    enNovember 20, 2023

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    • Emphasizing the Importance of Transatlantic Relations and Spain's Role in the EUArantxa Gonzalez Laia, a Spanish politician, stresses the significance of strong US-Europe relations and Spain's potential to contribute more to the EU, despite past challenges and feelings of underappreciation.

      Arantxa Gonzalez Laia, a former Spanish foreign minister and current head of Sciences Po, emphasizes the importance of strong transatlantic relations between the US and Europe, despite past challenges. She believes Spain, a country with strong European values and a history of modernization, has the potential to contribute more to the European Union but often feels it doesn't receive the recognition it deserves. Growing up in post-Franco Spain, Arantxa witnessed the country's transformation and was inspired by the opportunities it provided. Her personal experiences shaped her political journey, leading her to join a socialist government. Arantxa emphasizes that when Spain actively engages in European affairs, it can make a significant impact. She also shares her thoughts on the country's inferiority complex, rooted in its late entry into the European Union and the absence of involvement in the reconciliation process following World War II.

    • Historical complexities and regional autonomy in SpainSpain's diverse regions seek autonomy while Spain maintains unity as one country, emphasizing the importance of acceptance and management of differences within the EU context.

      Spain's complex history and diverse regions have led to varying feelings of belonging and the desire for autonomy. For the speaker, growing up in the Basque country during a time of resistance against dictatorship, Europe represented the desired freedom, democracy, and unity within diversity. The Basque separatists seek autonomy, respect for their beliefs, and a say in their regional affairs. Spain's constitution allows for this diversity while maintaining unity as one country. The speaker emphasizes the importance of accepting and managing these differences within the European Union context. The Spanish commitment to holding the country together stems from a long history of internal conflict and the desire to build a more modern Spain that acknowledges regional autonomy while maintaining unity.

    • Impact of UK's EU exit on international influenceThe UK's exit from the EU led to a decrease in international influence due to representing a smaller market compared to the EU's market of 700 million people.

      The ability to change constitutions and shape international affairs together is crucial, as seen with the UK's decision to leave the European Union (EU) seven years ago. While the UK had significant influence within the EU, its international significance and presence have diminished since leaving. The UK's departure from the EU has not led to an increase in international influence as some Brexiteers had hoped, but rather a decrease. This is due to the fact that the UK, now on its own, represents a much smaller market compared to the EU's market of 700 million people. The anti-trade sentiment seen in the ongoing conflict in Ukraine is not a global trend, and globalization still has a future. The speakers emphasized the importance of multilateralism and working together to shape the global trade system and address geopolitical risks.

    • Open markets and trade: winners and losersInvesting in social safety nets and a new social contract is crucial to ensure continued support for open markets amidst new disruptors and changing global landscape

      Open markets and international trade have brought significant improvements in competitiveness, innovation, and growth for many countries. However, the process has also created competition forces leading to winners and losers, and in some areas, the losers have not been adequately addressed. This lack of attention to social safety nets has resulted in resentment against trade and globalization, leading to a backlash against open markets and a desire for isolationism. As the world faces new disruptors like technology and artificial intelligence, it is crucial to invest in social safety nets and establish a new social contract to ensure continued support for open markets. The redistribution of power in the world and the failure to adapt institutions and rules to this new reality have further complicated the situation. The changing global landscape requires a serious and inclusive discussion about the role of open markets and social safety nets in ensuring economic prosperity and stability.

    • Challenges for Liberal Democracies: The European Union's ConcernsThe European Union faces challenges from global power shifts and internal forces, but citizens hold the power to shape the future of their democracies, particularly during upcoming elections, where issues like climate change remain a priority.

      The world is experiencing significant transformations, both internationally and domestically, which are leading to challenges for liberal democracies. These challenges include the reorganization of global power and the rise of internal forces pushing back against democratic institutions. In the European Union specifically, there is concern over the growing influence of right-wing parties and their potential to disrupt the Union. However, it's important to remember that citizens ultimately have the power to decide the future of their democracies. The upcoming European elections will be a crucial moment for young people, who have already shown their ability to drive change, particularly on issues like climate change. It's essential that we have a serious conversation about how to ensure a faster pace of change with more equity, rather than abandoning important causes like the fight against climate change. The expectation is not for less action, but for more. Let's wait and see if the electorate in upcoming elections will continue to prioritize these issues.

    • Effective immigration management addresses voter concerns and prevents populismBuild organized migration systems, manage fairly and humanely, cooperate on climate refugee issue, and work together for solutions

      Effective immigration management is crucial for addressing the concerns of voters and preventing the rise of right-wing populism. The discussion highlighted the need for organized migration and managing it through fair and humane means, rather than leaving it to mafias or other uncontrolled flows. Additionally, as the world faces the impact of climate change, the issue of climate refugees will become increasingly important, requiring international cooperation and adherence to international rules on asylum seekers and refugees. The Obama anecdote served as a reminder of the importance of building relationships and working together to find solutions, rather than relying on deception or shortcuts. The launch of "The Rest is Politics" US podcast promises to uncover secrets and insights from inside the Biden and Trump inner circles, shedding light on the critical issues shaping the US and global economy.

    • UN's Challenges in Addressing International ConflictsThe UN needs significant reform and inclusivity to effectively respond to today's complex geopolitical landscape and provide effective solutions to conflicts. Political realities often limit the efforts of UN members, staff, and humanitarian agencies.

      The United Nations (UN) is facing significant challenges in effectively addressing international conflicts and crises, particularly due to the dysfunctional political structures and the limited resources of humanitarian agencies. The UN's relevance and ability to respond to today's complex geopolitical landscape is questionable, and there is a need for reform and inclusivity to make it more efficient. The UN's members, its staff, and its humanitarian agencies are essential in providing aid and managing conflicts, but their efforts are often limited by the political realities. The political UN, represented by the Security Council, requires reform to provide effective solutions to conflicts. While the UN may not be easily replaceable, it needs significant changes to adapt to the current world situation. The speaker emphasizes the importance of being an activist and working towards dialogue and cooperation in this fractured world. In regards to feminism, the speaker did not provide specific insights during the conversation.

    • Advancing gender equality is a societal issue that requires collaboration of men and womenFormer Spanish Foreign Minister, Maria Fernanda Diaz-Balart, emphasized the importance of making gender equality a democratic issue, inspiring the younger generation to believe in their ability to make a difference, and the need for men and women to work together to create more equal societies.

      Advancing gender equality is not just a women's issue, but a societal issue that requires the collaboration of men and women. Former Spanish Foreign Minister, Maria Fernanda Diaz-Balart, shared her personal journey from not identifying as a feminist to becoming an advocate for gender equality due to the systemic discrimination she faced in her career. She emphasized the importance of making gender equality a democratic issue rather than an ideological one, and the need for men and women to work together to create more equal societies. Diaz-Balart also spoke about the importance of inspiring the younger generation to believe in their ability to make a difference and become activists, despite the challenges of growing up in a world dominated by social media and disinformation. She encouraged young people to see themselves as leaders with the power to shape their realities and make a positive impact on the world.

    • People and their dignity matter most in complex situationsIn resolving conflicts and making political changes, prioritize the dignity and rights of individuals

      Focusing on people and their dignity is essential for resolving complex and extreme situations, such as the Israel-Palestine conflict. Spain and Latin America share a rich history and relationship, and there's an opportunity for closer collaboration between the two regions. When it comes to politics, being a politician can be challenging, with personal sacrifices and negative aspects, but it also comes with the potential for positive change and making a difference in people's lives. We should remember that behind every conflict or political situation, there are people whose dignity and rights must be prioritized.

    • Navigating unique challenges of domestic politicsKeep citizens informed and engaged during tough times, they are intelligent and capable of understanding complex issues. Having diverse experiences allows for a more nuanced perspective on global affairs.

      Domestic politics presents unique challenges for politicians due to the close relationship between politicians and their citizens. While this intimacy has positive aspects, it also means intrusion into private life and the need to make difficult decisions that require clear communication and understanding from the electorate. Former Spanish Foreign Minister Rory Montagut y Fansa shared her experiences of navigating these challenges during her tenure, including managing the COVID-19 crisis and dealing with international policy makers. She emphasized the importance of keeping citizens informed and engaged during tough times, as they are intelligent and capable of understanding complex issues. Montagut y Fansa also highlighted the value of having diverse experiences, from being a politician and bureaucrat to an educator, which allows for a more nuanced perspective on global affairs.

    • Spanish Politician's Impressive Background and Language SkillsA Spanish politician's multilingual abilities and background from a modest background highlight Spain's potential and unique perspective in European politics, often overlooked due to an inferiority complex.

      The impressive background and multilingual abilities of the Spanish politician, who comes from a relatively modest background but has excelled in her career. She feels that Spain, despite its potential, has often felt like it's not a top player in European politics due to an inferiority complex. This sentiment was echoed during European summits where Spain was sometimes considered below or in the second or third league, depending on who was in charge. The politician's fluency and knowledge about Latin America was also highlighted as a unique strength among Spanish politicians that sets them apart from their counterparts in other European countries. Overall, her impressive language skills, background, and perspective offer a compelling representation of modern Spain and its place in the world.

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