Podcast Summary
The conflict between science and religion: Peterson encourages reconciliation of science and religion, acknowledging advancements in science lead to technological progress and improvements in standard of living, but also causing confusion and misunderstanding. He introduces his first e-course on personality.
The importance of resolving the conflict between science and religion. Peterson discusses how this conflict has torn at the heart of our culture for centuries, but the advancements in science have led to remarkable technological progress and improvements in standard of living. He highlights the rapid economic transformation and the decline in extreme poverty around the world. However, this conflict is not all positive, as it can lead to confusion and misunderstanding. Peterson encourages us to find a way to reconcile these two aspects of human knowledge and understanding. Additionally, he announces the launch of his first e-course on personality, offering a more structured and condensed resource for those interested in learning about personality without spending extensive time watching videos or reading resources.
From Alchemy to Ethics: Understanding the Dramatic Structure of Human Life: Jung and Peterson suggest that understanding the structure of the dramatic persona can help us navigate the world and act ethically in a non-arbitrary way, addressing the uncertainty between scientific description and ethical prescription.
According to Carl Jung, the development of science from alchemy brought about incredible technological power, but the ethical aspect remained undeveloped, leading to uncertainty about ethics and a gap between the scientific description of the world (is) and the ethical prescription of how to behave (ought). Jung believed that the world is not just a place of objects (is world), but also a place to act (ought world), and the drama of human life follows a certain structure. In addressing the postmodern critique of ethics and the science-religion problem, Jordan Peterson hypothesizes that understanding the structure of the dramatic persona can help us navigate the world and act in a non-arbitrary way.
Understanding the difference between right and wrong in belief systems: The fall of the Soviet Union highlights the importance of acknowledging the difference between right and wrong in belief systems, as some are more valid than others and can lead to societal improvement or degeneration.
The belief systems of the West and the Soviet Union were not arbitrary, but one was more valid than the other. The fall of the Soviet Union is evidence that their system was a degenerating game, while the West's system has the potential to improve over time. This suggests that there is a rank order of belief systems, and some things are inherently wrong regardless of cultural context, such as the atrocities committed during the Holocaust. It's a costly admission, but acknowledging the difference between right and wrong may be worth considering. From a biological perspective, this difference can be understood as a way for societies to iterate and improve, much like successful relationships. It's an awkward but possible marriage of scientific and religious perspectives. A story about Jean Piaget, who combined scientific and religious approaches, illustrates this idea.
Reconciling Science and Religion in Piaget's Work: Piaget's work in child development was influenced by his recognition of the human experience that predated science, demonstrating that alternative methods of acquiring knowledge existed.
Jean Piaget, a renowned child developmental psychologist of the 20th century, made significant strides in reconciling science and religion throughout his life, despite it not being a commonly discussed aspect of his work. Piaget's unique perspective emerged from his personal struggles with the contradiction between science and religion during his youth. His genius, like that of other influential figures such as Elon Musk, Jung, and Freud, can be intimidating, leading people to only delve into the parts of their work that they find comfortable. Piaget's groundbreaking discoveries in child development were influenced by his understanding of the human experience that predated the invention of science. He recognized that humans survived and thrived for millions of years without a scientific perspective, suggesting that alternative methods of acquiring knowledge existed. This bottom-up approach to understanding behavior, which was also observed in the works of ethologists like Conrad Lorenz, demonstrated that complex behaviors could be learned without conscious thought. Piaget's work thus offers valuable insights into the human experience and the ways in which we acquire knowledge.
Understanding Animal Behavior: Rules of the Game: Animal behavior follows predictable patterns due to individual motivations and social needs, which humans can observe, abstract, and communicate to gain insights into human nature
Animals, including humans, exhibit predictable patterns of behavior that can be observed and described like the rules of a game. These patterns emerge due to the interaction of individual motivations and the need for social cohesion within groups. While animals are not consciously following rules, humans have the unique ability to observe, abstract, and communicate these patterns, allowing us to understand and even derive moral and ethical principles from animal behavior. This process of observing, abstracting, and communicating patterns is a crucial aspect of human cognitive development and sets us apart from other animals. Ethologists like Jane Goodall and Franz de Waal have made significant contributions to this field by studying the social behavior of animals and drawing insights into human nature.
Human hierarchies are more complex than animal hierarchies: Dominance alone doesn't explain hierarchy positions. Reputation, skill, and respect matter.
Power alone does not explain why individuals occupy hierarchical positions in human societies. Observations of animals like wolves and chimpanzees show that even the most dominant individuals need cooperation and allies to maintain their rule. Human hierarchies are more complex than animal hierarchies, and individuals often climb the ladder through skills, technical expertise, and providing value to others. The idea of a mafia-like hierarchy where the strongest individual rules through fear is not how most businesses or industries function. Instead, reputation, skill, and respect are essential factors in advancing in a hierarchy.
Functioning of large organizations and societies based on collective competence: Large organizations and societies function effectively due to the collective competence of their members, despite potential for corruption and power struggles.
Hierarchical structures, while they may have elements of power, are predominantly based on competence. The speaker argues that despite the potential for corruption and power struggles, large organizations and societies function relatively well due to the collective competence of their members. He points to the convening of the conference as evidence, as well as improvements in health, technology, and longevity. The speaker also criticizes the intellectual and moral laziness of blaming all problems on human power structures, emphasizing that life itself is inherently challenging and dangerous. Ultimately, the speaker suggests that cooperation and competence are essential for survival and progress.
Understanding Complexity and Our Role in the World: Human history is complex and nuanced, with both mistakes and reasons. Criticizing others for past wrongs while ignoring our own can be unproductive. Strive for understanding, self-reflection, and positive change.
It's important to consider the complexity and nuance of human history and our role in the world, rather than adopting a simplistic and critical stance. The speaker argues that human beings have made mistakes and caused harm, but also have reasons for doing so and have faced challenges throughout our existence. They also point out that those who criticize our culture and history for being oppressive or corrupt often elevate themselves above others by doing so. Instead of focusing solely on the negative aspects, we should strive to understand both the problems and the solutions, and work towards making positive changes. The speaker also emphasizes the importance of self-reflection and taking responsibility for our own actions before criticizing others. They draw parallels between the destructive impact humans have had on the planet and the planet's impact on us, and encourage a balanced perspective. Additionally, the speaker reflects on the historical context of human impact on the environment and how our understanding and actions have evolved over time.
Understanding the Impact of Technological Advancements on Society and Human Behavior: Technological advancements bring moral obligations to consider their impact on others and the environment. Biological research reveals the existence of fundamental circuits for rage, emphasizing the importance of socialization and societal support in shaping behavior.
Our technological advancements come with a larger-scale moral obligation to consider the impact on others and the environment. Using the example of improved air quality in cities like Los Angeles and London, we've made progress, but there's still more work to be done. Regarding human behavior, a study by Yock Penksep and Jeffrey Gray revealed the existence of fundamental biological circuits, including one for rage. This circuit is active in infants and contributes to aggression in young children, particularly boys. However, most boys are socialized into civilized behavior by the time they reach school age. This research underscores the importance of understanding the biological basis of behavior and the role of socialization in shaping it. Additionally, it highlights the need for continued efforts to improve societal structures and support systems to help children, especially those who may be more prone to aggression, develop into well-adjusted individuals.
The Role of Play in Socialization and Civilization: Play is essential for socialization and civilization, starting from age three. It teaches fair play, cooperation, and ethical behavior through games, and aggression can be integrated to promote ethical conduct.
Play is a fundamental aspect of socialization and civilization, especially for children. Parents have a crucial role in teaching their children how to engage in reciprocal social interactions through games, which helps them learn fair play, cooperation, and ethical behavior. This process starts as early as the age of three and continues throughout life, shaping our ethics and social norms. The importance of play is evident in our willingness to pay for entertainment that revolves around watching others play. Contrary to common belief, aggression is not antithetical to socialization but can be integrated into harder games, leading to the emergence of ethical behavior. Ultimately, our lives outside of games follow a similar cooperative and competitive ethic.
Universal Desire for Fair Play and Importance of Reputation: Rats exhibit a desire for fair play and reciprocity, suggesting a universal human desire for these traits and the significance of reputation in shaping social interactions.
The concept of a good sport transcends specific games or situations and represents an emergent ethic. This ethic, characterized by fairness, reciprocity, and a desire for mutual play, is not arbitrary but rather tightly constrained. Even rats, as simple organisms, exhibit this behavior, with smaller rats asking larger ones to play and only continuing to do so if the larger rat allows them to win a significant percentage of the time. This behavior suggests the existence of a universal human desire for fair play and the importance of reputation in shaping social interactions.
Fair play and reciprocity in human behavior: Animals like rats exhibit fairness, humans are motivated beings who need to balance goals, and fair play leads to social harmony and the admiration of fair players
Fair play and reciprocity are fundamental aspects of human behavior, even in seemingly simple situations. Jordan Peterson uses the example of rats in a maze to illustrate this concept, emphasizing that even animals as seemingly unethical as rats exhibit fair play in their interactions. He also discusses how humans are motivated creatures with various goals, and we must integrate and balance these motivations within ourselves and with others for social harmony. This integration is achieved through learning how to play fair and reciprocate, as shown in experiments like the one conducted by behavioral economists. The emergence of a game ethic, which values fairness and reciprocity, leads to the admiration of the fair player archetype, which is a crucial aspect of human behavior and is reflected in various forms of art and entertainment.
Understanding Ethical Behavior through Heroes and Archetypes: We learn ethical behavior by observing heroes and striving to emulate them, considering the impact on our future selves, families, and communities, and recognizing the importance of fair play in our interconnected lives.
Our understanding of ethical behavior has been shaped by stories and representations of heroes and adversaries. We learn what it means to play properly by observing these archetypes and striving to emulate the hero. This knowledge system is not just about individual conduct, but also about treating ourselves fairly across time and considering the impact on our future selves, families, and communities. The ethic of fair play involves doing what's good for ourselves and those around us in the present and future. We are all part of interconnected communities, and our actions have consequences for ourselves and those around us. We have an instinct for meaning and can find engagement in various aspects of life, including sports, by recognizing and appreciating the proper play of the game.
Instinct for meaning and living a balanced life: Our instinct for meaning drives us towards living a balanced and harmonious life, contributing to personal growth, psychological well-being, and societal betterment.
Our instincts guide us towards living a balanced and harmonious life, which is deeply engaging and meaningful. This sense of meaning isn't an illusion but a biological drive that helps us succeed in the long term. By attending to our conscience and acting out our role in our personal lives, families, and communities, we not only feel psychologically better but also contribute to the betterment of society. This instinct for meaning is not arbitrary but self-evident, and it's essential to face the challenges of life and make the world a better place. By playing the game of life properly, we give our lives purpose, protect ourselves from anxiety and pain, and make a positive impact on the world.
Balancing Free Speech and Censorship on Tech Platforms: Speakers acknowledged the challenges of creating a platform that balances free speech and censorship, with plans to create an alternative to Patreon but acknowledging complexities and uncertainties.
The speakers acknowledged the challenges of creating a platform that balances free speech and censorship, especially in the context of the ongoing debates around tech companies' roles in regulating content. They also discussed their plans to create an alternative to Patreon, but acknowledged the complexities and uncertainties involved. Another topic touched upon was the issue of defining and distinguishing between virtuous and harmful aspects of traditional masculinity, with concerns raised about the potential negative consequences of conflating the two. Overall, the conversation highlighted the complexities and nuances of these issues, and the need for ongoing dialogue and exploration.
The Science-Religion Problem and its Complexities: Jordan Peterson explores the relationship between science and religion, arguing they're not mutually exclusive, and introduces his e-course on personality for a deeper understanding.
The conflict between religion and science has been a long-standing issue in our culture, but the advancements in science have led to remarkable technological progress and improved standard of living for the bulk of the population. This conflict, however, raises complex questions about meaning and purpose in life. In the lecture "Resolving the Science Religion Problem" from Jordan Peterson's 12 Rules for Life, he explores the relationship between these two domains and argues that they are not mutually exclusive. The lecture also touches on the importance of understanding personality and its role in shaping our perspective on the world. Additionally, Jordan Peterson is launching an e-course on personality, which offers a more structured and condensed way to learn about this topic. The course includes exclusive resources and a discussion group, making it an excellent opportunity for those interested in personality and its role in our lives.
The ethical dimension of alchemy and human existence: Alchemy's ethical aspect has been underdeveloped, leading to a gap between scientific knowledge and ethical understanding. By studying dramatic personas, we can gain insights into ethical questions and bridge the gap.
The world can be viewed as a place of objects (is) or a place to act (ought). While science describes the former, ethics or morality emerge from the latter. The ethical aspect of alchemy, which gave rise to science, has remained underdeveloped, leading to a gap between scientific knowledge and ethical understanding. This gap is manifested in the ongoing conflict between science and religion, and the uncertainty about ethics in a world where technological power outstrips ethical knowledge. The drama of human life, which is the purpose of the stage, is the key to understanding the ethical dimension. By studying the structure of dramatic personas, we can gain insights into the ethical questions that underpin human existence. This perspective can help bridge the gap between science and ethics, and provide a more holistic understanding of the world.
The Soviet Union's belief system was a degenerating game, while the Western world's was not.: During the Cold War, the Soviet Union's belief system was found to be destructive, while the Western world's was sustainable. This suggests that there is a hierarchy of belief systems and that some things are inherently wrong.
There are some ways of looking at the world that are better than others, and certain beliefs or systems that are preferable to others based on their ability to improve and sustain over time. This was discovered by studying the understructure of the belief systems that characterized the Soviet Union and the Western world during the Cold War. The Soviet Union's belief system was found to be a degenerating game, while the Western world's was not. This evidence suggests that there is a rank order of games, and that some things are wrong regardless of cultural context. This idea was exemplified by the Nuremberg trials, which established that certain actions were crimes against humanity, regardless of cultural milieu. The cost of denying this is admitting that there was nothing inherently wrong with the Holocaust, which is a conclusion that most people are unwilling to draw. Therefore, it's worth considering that there may be a real difference between right and wrong.
The struggle to reconcile science and religion in the lives of great thinkers: Piaget and Nietzsche's perspectives challenge us to reconsider the apparent contradiction between science and religion, and the past and present.
Throughout history, great thinkers like Jean Piaget have attempted to reconcile the seemingly disparate worlds of science and religion. Piaget, a pioneering child developmental psychologist, struggled with this contradiction in his youth and dedicated his life to finding a solution. Despite his groundbreaking work, this aspect of his life is often overlooked due to societal discomfort with the depth of genius. Human beings didn't begin to care about the material world in an objective scientific sense until relatively recently, and even before that, life thrived for millions of years without such a perspective. Nietzsche believed that philosophers often unconsciously recapitulated their own knowledge, and that the structure of behavior was discovered through bottom-up, not top-down, processes. These insights from Piaget and Nietzsche remind us that the seemingly contradictory worlds of science and religion, and the past and the present, may not be as far apart as they seem.
Understanding Animal Behavior Through Patterns and Rules: Humans can observe and reflect on animal behavior patterns and create abstract rules, setting us apart from other animals
The behavior of animals, including humans, can be understood through observing patterns and regularities in their interactions. These patterns often emerge as a consequence of motivations and limitations, and can be described as rules. For animals like wolves, these rules help them survive and function in groups. Humans, with our advanced cognitive abilities, can not only observe these patterns, but also reflect on them and create abstract rules and ethical systems. This ability to observe, reflect, and create rules is a unique aspect of human behavior that sets us apart from other animals.
Patterns in Animal Behavior vs. Human Hierarchies: Animals exhibit behavior patterns, but human hierarchies are more complex and abstract, driven by cooperation and long-term relationships rather than solely power.
Animals, such as wolves and chimpanzees, exhibit patterns in their behavior, but they do not follow rules in the same way that humans do. Human beings have the ability to observe these patterns, tell stories, and abstract rules from them. Franz de Waal's research on chimpanzees shows that power is not the sole motivation for hierarchical positions, as power structures in animals are unstable. Human hierarchies are more complex and abstract, and the idea that one can rise in a hierarchy through psychopathic power is not realistic. Instead, cooperation and long-term relationships are essential for stability in hierarchies. Therefore, it is unlikely that human hierarchies function solely based on power, as some postmodernists argue.
Hierarchies function based on competence: Hierarchies thrive due to skills and expertise of leaders, seen in daily life's reliability and improvements in health and longevity
Hierarchical structures, while they may have elements of power, are primarily based on competence. The speaker argues that the success of these structures can be seen in the functioning of everyday life, from the reliability of cars and highways to the peaceful gathering of people in a conference hall. The speaker also points to improvements in health and longevity as evidence of the effectiveness of these structures. While power can and does exist within hierarchies, the speaker believes that by and large, they work because of the skills and competence of those in charge. The speaker acknowledges that hierarchies can become corrupt, but argues that when they do, they collapse and reformulate, leading to new companies and progress.
Embrace the Complexity of Life: Avoid excessive self-criticism and victimization, strive for improvement, and approach life's challenges with balance and sympathy.
While life can be difficult and humans have made mistakes, it's important to avoid excessive self-criticism and victimization. The world is complex, and both humans and nature present challenges. Instead of focusing solely on the negative aspects of human culture, we should strive to improve ourselves and work towards solving problems. The world is not perfect, but neither are we, and it's essential to acknowledge the complexity of the situation and approach it with balance and sympathy for ourselves and others. As Thomas Huxley once said, it's important to consider both sides of the equation before passing judgment.
Impact of human actions on the environment and moral obligations: Recognize historical damage to the environment, strive for amends, and improve behavior while questioning ideologies that downplay the importance of fundamental biological systems.
Our actions, particularly in the past, have had a profound impact on the environment, and we have only recently begun to understand the larger-scale moral obligations that come with our technological power. This is evident in the history of overfishing, which was once seen as an impossible task for humans due to the vast resources of the ocean. However, with the advent of industrial-scale harvesting after World War II, we have caused significant damage to marine life. Similarly, the fundamental motivational systems in biology, such as the rage circuit, have been present since the beginning of life and can be observed in infants. It's important to recognize the impact of our actions, both historically and in the present, and strive to make amends and improve our behavior. Additionally, it's crucial to question ideological screeds that downplay the importance of fundamental biological systems and the role they play in shaping behavior.
The importance of socialization through play in children's development: Children's socialization into civilized behavior through play is crucial for making friends, acceptance, and ethical behavior by age four. Play's wired-in desire for fairness supports this idea, evident in our entertainment choices and Piaget's observation.
Children, particularly two-year-olds, exhibit aggressive behavior, but the majority of them are socialized into civilized behavior by the age of four. This socialization process is crucial as children who fail to make friends and be accepted as playmates by this age risk isolation and potential lifelong difficulties. The evidence for this comes from observing behavior in various species, including rats, and the fact that fatherless families do not produce more peaceful children, but rather more aggressive ones. Play is a fundamental aspect of this socialization process, as it is something that children are motivated to engage in and will work to access. This wired-in desire for fair play is evident in our entertainment choices and is a testament to our civilized and social nature. Piaget's observation that ethics emerge from the bottom up through iterated reciprocal interactions in games supports this idea. In summary, the socialization of children into civilized behavior through games and play is a crucial aspect of their development and sets the foundation for ethical behavior.
The ethic of good sportsmanship: A transcendent value: Good sportsmanship, rooted in goal-direction, cooperation, rule-adherence, and fairness, is a universal value applicable to games and life. Contrasts with psychopathic behavior.
The ethic of good sportsmanship, which emerges from cooperative and competitive experiences, is a transcendent value that applies across various contexts, including games and daily life. This ethic is characterized by goal-direction, cooperation with teammates, adherence to rules, and fairness towards adversaries. It contrasts with the behavior of psychopaths, who lack the ability to play fair and must constantly move to find new victims. The emergence of this ethic can be observed in children's play and is a solution to the postmodern conundrum, which wrongly asserts that there is no better way to view the world than any other. The rat experiment demonstrates that even in animal behavior, power does not always lead to dominance, and that animals engage in repeated playful interactions to establish social hierarchies.
Emergent ethic of fair play in simple interactions: Animals and social structures exhibit an ethic of fair play, crucial for social integration and reciprocity, driven by motivational systems, and essential for engaging in various games and participating in society.
Even in seemingly simple interactions, such as wrestling rats or economic games, there exists an emergent ethic of fair play. This ethic is not limited to humans, but extends to animals and other social structures. This ethic is crucial for social integration and reciprocity, and is the foundation for more complex social structures and archetypes, such as the fair player or the hero. This ethic is driven by our motivational systems and is essential for engaging in various games and participating in society. It is a fundamental aspect of human and animal behavior, and is a crucial component of understanding complex social dynamics.
Understanding Ethics Through Representation: We learn ethical behavior from patterns in stories, movies, and rituals, abstracting them to guide meaningful actions and fair play for ourselves and others across time.
Our understanding of ethical behavior is shaped by the patterns we observe in various forms of representation, such as stories, movies, and rituals. We abstract these patterns and try to imitate them to understand what it means to behave properly. This knowledge system, which underlies our ethics, is elaborated into different forms, including drama, ritual, and religious representations. The hero and adversary archetypes emerge from this process. Jordan Peterson suggests that we should strive for meaningful actions, not just expedient ones, and tell the truth or at least avoid lying. Our sense of self extends beyond the present moment and includes our future selves, our family, and our community. The ethic of fair play requires considering what is good for ourselves and those around us across time. We are instinctively drawn to meaning and can become deeply engaged with it in various aspects of life.
Living in harmony for personal growth and community betterment: Our instincts guide us towards living a balanced life, improving psychological well-being, making us attractive partners, and contributing to long-term biological success. Actions impact not just our lives but those around us, so living harmoniously creates a meaningful existence.
Our instincts guide us towards living a balanced and harmonious life, both for our personal growth and the betterment of our community. This sense of meaning and purpose, guided by our conscience, not only improves our psychological well-being but also makes us more attractive partners and contributes to our long-term biological success. By playing the game of life properly, we not only face our obstacles and solve important problems but also set the world right. This is not an arbitrary or constructed notion, but a self-evident truth that has been recognized throughout history. It's important to remember that our actions not only impact our own lives but also the lives of those around us, and by living in harmony with ourselves, our families, and our communities, we can create a more meaningful and worthwhile existence.
The Future of Online Platforms and Free Speech: Speakers questioned the viability of creating straightforward solutions to regulate content on online platforms while upholding free speech, acknowledging the challenges of defining and enforcing acceptable online behavior.
The destruction of Patreon and the challenges faced by large social networks in regulating content raise questions about the future of online platforms and free speech. The speakers expressed doubts about the viability of creating a straightforward solution to these issues, as the internet continues to evolve and present new complexities. They also discussed the potential consequences of blurring the lines between virtuous and harmful content, as seen in the APA's definition of traditional masculinity. Ultimately, they emphasized the importance of attempting to build platforms that uphold free speech while adhering to the law, and acknowledged the challenges that come with defining and enforcing acceptable online behavior.
Concerns over Corruption in Clinical Psychology Programs: The speaker worries about the impact of social justice ideologies on clinical psychology, which he believes has led to a loss of scientific rigor and effectiveness, and urges tech companies to stay true to their values to prevent similar outcomes.
The speaker expresses concern over the corruption of once rigorous clinical psychology programs due to their adoption of social justice ideologies. He believes this shift has made the field less scientific and less effective in helping people, and laments the loss of the profession's focus on mental health and personal growth. The speaker advocates for leaders in tech companies to remain firm in their values and avoid incorporating these ideologies into their businesses to prevent negative consequences. He also draws an analogy between the variety of water and the different approaches to life and business.
The Dangers of Prioritizing Power Over Competence: The conflation of power and competence in education, media, and other fields can lead to a decline in quality and factual accuracy, and the undervaluing of expertise.
The prioritization of power over competence in various fields, including education and media, can lead to detrimental consequences. The speaker expresses concern over the potential risks to STEM fields due to the conflation of power and competence, which can result in the devaluation of expertise and the deterioration of quality in media and other areas. The technological revolution and the rise of new media have further exacerbated this trend, leading to a decline in the quality and factual accuracy of mainstream media. Ultimately, the speaker emphasizes the importance of recognizing and valuing competence and expertise in all areas, as they are essential for building structures that stand the test of time and for creating accurate and informative media.
The Impact of Technology on Media Consumption: The technological revolution has led to a fragmented media landscape, with advantages like lower costs and direct audience engagement, but also negative consequences like a loss of shared experiences and national unity.
The current state of media, marked by a decline in quality, is not surprising given the rapid technological revolution. Platforms like YouTube and podcasts have advantages over traditional networks, such as lower costs and fewer resources required. However, this fragmentation of media consumption has led to a loss of shared experiences and a sense of national unity. Additionally, the new technology allows creators to engage with audiences directly, fostering a sense of independence and respect for the intelligence of the audience. This shift has led to a market for high-level discourse and independent media platforms, which in turn, allows creators to explore complex topics in depth. Overall, the technological revolution has brought about significant changes to media consumption, some of which have both positive and negative consequences.
People's capacity for focus and understanding complex ideas is underestimated: Despite the old rule, people can engage with long-form content and deep discussions on personal growth, as evidenced by the success of 'Game of Thrones' and Jordan Peterson's books. The market for thoughtful discussions is significant.
People's capacity for focus and understanding complex ideas is underestimated. The success of long-form content like "Game of Thrones" and Jordan Peterson's books defy the old rule that people can only pay attention for 90 minutes. Peterson's discussions on serious topics have resonated with a large audience, inspiring him to continue sharing his insights. The market for deep, meaningful discussions about personal growth is significant, as evidenced by the sales of Peterson's books. It's inspiring to see the large turnout for events like this, and the ability to reach even more people through podcasts and online platforms. So, in essence, people are capable of engaging with complex ideas, and there is a strong demand for thoughtful discussions on personal growth and self-improvement.