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    ‘The Strongest Democratic Party That Any of Us Have Ever Seen’

    enJanuary 25, 2024

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    • Democratic Party's Strong Performance in ElectionsDespite criticism and speculation, the Democratic Party's strong election results and effective governance contradict the narrative of crisis.

      Despite the Democratic Party facing criticism and speculation about the re-election of President Joe Biden, the party's strong performance in the 2022 elections has made it difficult for potential challengers to gain traction. Simon Rosenberg, a longtime Democratic strategist and author of the Substack "Hopium Chronicles," argues that the Democratic Party is not in crisis and is actually performing well in terms of elections and governance. Despite some differences and challenges, the party is not making huge mistakes and has a strong foundation to build upon. This perspective contrasts with the common narrative that the Democratic Party is in disarray, but it offers an important reminder that looking at elections and governance can provide a different perspective than relying solely on polls and vibes.

    • Democrats need to focus on strong campaigns and closing the 'loudness gap' for 2024 victoryTo win the 2024 presidency, Democrats must prioritize effective campaigns, counteract the right-wing noise machine, and maintain their momentum.

      Despite current polling indicating a close race between Trump and Biden for the 2024 presidency, the Republican Party has been underperforming and Democrats have been winning elections consistently since Trump's MAGA branding in 2017. The 2022 election results showed two different dynamics: Democrats performed exceptionally well in battleground states with focused campaigns, while they lost ground in states without significant campaign efforts. To secure a victory in 2024, Democrats need to focus on running strong campaigns, closing the "loudness gap" with the right-wing noise machine, and maintaining their energy and focus.

    • Democrats controlled the narrative in 2022 elections, leading to their successDemocrats effectively mobilized against 'MAGA' tendency, while Republican Party's doubling down led to a split. Democratic success may not fully translate to presidential elections, and every vote matters.

      The information environment played a crucial role in the 2022 elections, with Democrats performing well in areas where they controlled the narrative and Republicans doing so in areas where they did. The Democratic Party's success can be attributed to their ability to mobilize against the "MAGA" political tendency, while the Republican Party's doubling down on this ideology has led to a splintering of the party. However, it's important to note that the Democratic Party's success in winning over more educated and higher-information voters may not translate to the same degree in presidential elections, where turnout is typically higher and less predictable. Additionally, while Joe Biden won the popular vote in 2020, the narrow margin between the two candidates highlights the importance of every vote and the potential for shifts in voter sentiment.

    • The electoral college system limits Democratic controlDespite winning popular votes, Dems don't always control presidency or Congress due to electoral college and GOP control of state power

      While the Democratic Party has consistently won the popular vote in recent presidential elections, the electoral college system means that control of the government is not solely determined by the popular vote. The speaker argues that the Democratic Party's success in winning the popular vote does not necessarily translate to control of the presidency or Congress. The Republican Party currently holds significant power through their control of the House, governorships, and state legislatures. The importance of the popular vote should not be discounted, but it is essential to recognize the complexities of the American political system and the role of various institutions in distributing power.

    • Fighting in the Information Space for Democratic VictoryThe Democratic Party has made progress but faces a formidable challenge in the information war led by Donald Trump. Biden's team must prioritize controlling the narrative to counteract daily Trump rhetoric, despite age-related challenges.

      The Democratic Party has made significant progress in becoming a competitive national political force since the late 1980s and early 1990s. Despite losing some presidential elections, the party has won a majority of popular votes in seven out of eight elections since 1992. However, the current information war against the Republican Party, led by Donald Trump, poses a significant challenge. The Biden campaign needs to prioritize controlling the information environment through intense and consistent messaging to counteract the daily dominance of Trump's rhetoric. The age of President Biden, while an asset in many ways, may make it more challenging for him to keep up with the daily information war. The speaker, a longtime political strategist, emphasizes the importance of fighting fiercely in the information space to secure a victory for Joe Biden in the upcoming election.

    • Let Trump control the news to mobilize counter-maga coalitionThe Biden team's strategy to let Trump dominate the news has led to the growth of a massive new Democratic political machine, enabling effective counter-mobilization and winning key elections.

      The Biden team's strategy for dealing with Trump's constant presence in the news is to let him dominate the information space and mobilize their counter-maga coalition in response. This strategy has led to the growth of a massive new Democratic political machine, which has provided them with more resources, volunteers, and engagement than ever before. This counter mobilization has proven effective in winning key elections, such as in Orlando, Florida and New Virginia, despite initial doubts from political operatives on the ground. By allowing Trump to control the news, the Democrats are able to mobilize their base and mobilize against him, ultimately counteracting the MAGA coalition and strengthening their own party.

    • Democrats focus on protecting democracyDemocrats' successful strategy contrasting democracy protection vs. GOP threats continues, but addressing voter economic dissatisfaction is crucial.

      The Democratic Party's focus on protecting democracy and contrasting it with the perceived threats from the Republican Party, led by Donald Trump and the MAGA movement, has been an effective strategy for them. This message resonates with voters and has been successful in elections. However, the Biden administration also needs to address voter dissatisfaction with the economy and make a compelling case for their economic policies. While there may be challenges in doing so, the Democrats believe they can make progress and sell their economic message effectively once the campaign fully engages. The contrasting narrative of democracy versus threats to it has been a powerful and true argument for the Democrats, and they plan to continue emphasizing this theme while also presenting their economic agenda.

    • Bridging the gap between economic data and public perceptionThe Biden administration's economic achievements aren't fully reflected in public perception due to ongoing affordability crises, particularly in housing. Democrats must effectively communicate their successes to bridge this gap and counteract the influence of MAGA politics.

      While economic data shows strong performance under the Biden administration, there's a significant disconnect between the data and public perception. This affordability crisis, particularly in housing, has been ongoing but is not reflected in the economic data. The challenge for the Democrats is to bridge this gap and effectively communicate their achievements to the public, who are influenced by different information environments. Despite economic dissatisfaction, fear and opposition to MAGA politics remain a powerful force in American politics. A campaign's role is to inform and shape narratives, especially in an era where people are increasingly disconnected from traditional news sources. The objective reality is that the country has made significant progress since Biden took office, and he aims to build on this progress in his second term.

    • Democrats see economic bright side despite negative numbersDespite economic numbers suggesting voter dissatisfaction, Democrats see improvements in life satisfaction, job satisfaction, and income satisfaction. Historical data suggests focusing on economic concerns early can help win reelection.

      Despite the overall economic numbers indicating potential voter dissatisfaction, there is a significant disconnect between public perception and reported data. Democrats are giving President Biden high marks on the economy, and while 40% of the population is not reachable in polls, available data shows that life satisfaction, job satisfaction, and income satisfaction are up. Furthermore, a recent Axios poll shows that individual respondents' self-reported well-being is also up. These findings suggest that the Democratic Party has strong raw material to make an effective argument about the economy, as truth tends to be more persuasive in campaigns. Additionally, historical data from previous Democratic presidencies shows that even after midterm elections with significant losses, these presidents were able to win reelection by focusing their campaigns earlier and setting the terms of the debate. The Biden campaign would benefit from following this example and addressing economic concerns proactively.

    • Biden campaign needs to ramp up energy against Trump's attacksThe Biden campaign must accelerate its efforts to counter Trump's attacks with a more robust and energetic presence to maintain voter confidence and align with the party's promise of normalcy and stability.

      The Biden campaign needs to accelerate its development and engagement in the general election against Trump, who is expected to ramp up his attacks soon. The lack of energy in the Biden campaign, which is reflective of Biden's age and demeanor, is a concern as the Democratic Party has positioned itself as the party of normalcy and stability. However, Biden's age and perceived lack of energy contrast with this promise, potentially undermining the party's message. The urgency is to build a more robust and energetic campaign to effectively counter Trump's attacks and maintain voter confidence.

    • Heavier communications burden for Biden campaign due to age and health concernsThe Biden campaign must adapt its communications strategy, expand its reach, and acknowledge demographic shifts within the Democratic Party to effectively address concerns and ensure continued success.

      The 2024 presidential campaign will place a heavier communications burden on the Joe Biden campaign due to his age and the need to effectively address concerns about his ability to lead. The campaign must adapt and expand its communications strategy, transitioning from a traditional war room to a network of millions of amplifiers. Additionally, the Democratic Party is undergoing significant demographic shifts, with a decrease in working-class white voters and an increase in higher-income voters. These trends, which began before Biden's presidency, must be acknowledged and addressed to ensure the party's continued success.

    • Democrats losing ground with working class voters, particularly among white votersDespite some losses among working class voters, Democrats still won their support in 2020 and population growth in certain regions can lead to more overall votes. However, addressing the concerns of working class voters is crucial to maintain their support and prevent the election gap from closing.

      While Democrats have made gains with higher income and more educated voters, they have lost ground with working class voters, particularly among white voters. However, the situation is not as dire as some may think, especially in heavily Hispanic regions where Democrats have seen significant growth in recent years. The erosion of Democratic support among working class voters is a concern, but it's important to note that Democrats still won the working class vote in 2020, albeit with smaller margins than before. The growth of the population in these regions means that even a smaller percentage of the vote can still result in more overall votes. Nevertheless, if the proportion gap between Democrats and Republicans continues to close, the election gap could eventually follow. The ongoing debate about educational polarization is complex, but it's clear that cultural representation and feelings of respect play a role in voting decisions. Republicans have not been able to close the gap with Democrats in recent elections, but it's important for Democrats to address the concerns of working class voters to maintain their support.

    • Democratic Party's Voter Base ShiftsThe Democratic Party faces challenges in maintaining its identity as the champion of the working class and building a larger majority due to shifting voter demographics. They must understand these changes and work to win back young people and people of color.

      The Democratic Party's voter base is shifting, with surprising defections among voters of color and increasing reliance on suburban whites. This trend raises questions about the party's identity as the champion of the working class and its ability to build a larger majority. While there are concerns about erosion in certain communities, it's important to note that the Democratic Party has seen record-breaking voter support in recent presidential elections. To adapt, the party must understand these changing dynamics and work to win back young people and people of color who have wandered from the Democratic Party. The 2020 election's distinctive dynamics around COVID-19 could serve as an analogy for potential challenges with young voters in the upcoming elections. While there's optimism, there's also a recognition that the Democratic Party has a lot of work to do to regain the support of key constituencies.

    • Impact of Israel-Hamas conflict on young voters in US electionsThe Israel-Hamas conflict could sway young voters, especially those concerned with foreign policy. The Biden campaign plans a robust youth outreach, while young women's issues may shift female voting patterns. Parties must cater to changing demographics.

      The ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas could potentially impact young voters' decisions in the upcoming US elections. While it's unlikely that this issue will be a top priority for most young voters, there is a vocal and organized group of young people who view foreign policy as a significant concern. The Biden campaign recognizes the importance of engaging with this demographic and plans to launch a sophisticated and well-funded youth campaign. Additionally, young women's voting patterns are shifting due to issues like abortion rights, and the Democratic Party's focus on these concerns may alienate some young men. Parties must adapt to their changing constituencies, and the Republican Party's embrace of the MAGA coalition requires them to cater to specific beliefs, such as denying the legitimacy of the 2020 election. The Democratic Party, on the other hand, has become more aligned with higher-income and more educated voters, reflecting their priorities and cultural tastes.

    • Building Authentic Connections and Embracing DiversityThe Democratic Party must prioritize building authentic connections with voters and embracing diverse viewpoints to maintain its role as a representative of the people and succeed electorally.

      The perception of disconnect between voters and the Democratic Party leadership could lead to a sense of exclusion and polarization, potentially harming the party's reputation and electoral success. The importance of building authentic connections and embracing diverse viewpoints is crucial for the party to maintain its intended role as a representative of the people. Additionally, the ongoing trend of a significant repudiation of MAGA ideologies across the country presents an opportunity for the Democratic Party to attract disillusioned Republicans and form a more inclusive coalition. It's essential to acknowledge the recent electoral gains and recognize the shifting political landscape to effectively engage with voters and navigate the complexities of the current political climate.

    • Democratic Party's resilience in winning electionsStay true to Democratic values, engage in political process, read 'A New Deal for the World' and 'On Tyranny' to maintain focus.

      Despite the ongoing political polarization and challenges within the Democratic Party, its strength and ability to win elections is a testament to its resilience. According to Simon Rosenberg, the Democratic Party has a proud history of achieving great things for people and is currently focused on preserving the global order and ensuring opportunities for future generations. He emphasized the importance of staying true to Democratic values and not yielding to authoritarian narratives. Two books he recommended for maintaining this focus are "A New Deal for the World" by Elizabeth Borgwardt and "On Tyranny" by Timothy Snyder. Additionally, he encouraged staying engaged with the political process and continuing to argue for Democratic values in the public sphere.

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    D. Graham Burnett calls the attention economy an example of “human fracking”: With our attention in shorter and shorter supply, companies are going to even greater lengths to extract this precious resource from us. And he argues that it’s now reached a point that calls for a kind of revolution. “This is creating conditions that are at odds with human flourishing. We know this,” he tells me. “And we need to mount new forms of resistance.”

    Burnett is a professor of the history of science at Princeton University and is working on a book about the laboratory study of attention. He’s also a co-founder of the Strother School of Radical Attention, which is a kind of grass roots, artistic effort to create a curriculum for studying attention.

    In this conversation, we talk about how the 20th-century study of attention laid the groundwork for today’s attention economy, the connection between changing ideas of attention and changing ideas of the self, how we even define attention (this episode is worth listening to for Burnett’s collection of beautiful metaphors alone), whether the concern over our shrinking attention spans is simply a moral panic, what it means to teach attention and more.

    Mentioned:

    Friends of Attention

    The Battle for Attention” by Nathan Heller

    Powerful Forces Are Fracking Our Attention. We Can Fight Back.” by D. Graham Burnett, Alyssa Loh and Peter Schmidt

    Scenes of Attention edited by D. Graham Burnett and Justin E. H. Smith

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    The Confidence-Man by Herman Melville

    Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.

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    enMay 31, 2024

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    ‘Artificial Intelligence?’ No, Collective Intelligence.

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    Holly Herndon offered one answer with her 2019 album “PROTO.” Along with Mathew Dryhurst and the programmer Jules LaPlace, she built an A.I. called “Spawn” trained on human voices that adds an uncanny yet oddly personal layer to the music. Beyond her music and visual art, Herndon is trying to solve a problem that many creative people are encountering as A.I. becomes more prominent: How do you encourage experimentation without stealing others’ work to train A.I. models? Along with Dryhurst, Jordan Meyer and Patrick Hoepner, she co-founded Spawning, a company figuring out how to allow artists — and all of us creating content on the internet — to “consent” to our work being used as training data.

    In this conversation, we discuss how Herndon collaborated with a human chorus and her “A.I. baby,” Spawn, on “PROTO”; how A.I. voice imitators grew out of electronic music and other musical genres; why Herndon prefers the term “collective intelligence” to “artificial intelligence”; why an “opt-in” model could help us retain more control of our work as A.I. trawls the internet for data; and much more.

    Mentioned:

    Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt” by Holly Herndon

    xhairymutantx” by Holly Herndon and Mat Dryhurst, for the Whitney Museum of Art

    Fade” by Holly Herndon

    Swim” by Holly Herndon

    Jolene” by Holly Herndon and Holly+

    Movement” by Holly Herndon

    Chorus” by Holly Herndon

    Godmother” by Holly Herndon

    The Precision of Infinity” by Jlin and Philip Glass

    Holly+

    Book Recommendations:

    Intelligence and Spirit by Reza Negarestani

    Children of Time by Adrian Tchaikovsky

    Plurality by E. Glen Weyl, Audrey Tang and ⿻ Community

    Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.

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    enMay 24, 2024

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