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    230. Russia, Ukraine, and the West | Frederick Kagan

    enMarch 01, 2022

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    • Conflict in Ukraine: More than just territoryPutin's invasion of Ukraine is an attempt to change Ukraine's political order, weaken NATO, and establish Russia as a dominant power.

      The current conflict in Ukraine is not just about territory, but also about changing the political order in Ukraine to make it less pro-Western and more subordinate to Russia. Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine is an unprovoked, unwarranted, and illegal attack with the objective of replacing the current government and installing a governance structure that brings Ukraine back into the Russian fold. Putin's ultimate goal is to weaken NATO, break ties between the US and Europe, and change the world order to one where Russia is a dominant power. It's important to understand that this is part of a larger effort by Putin to reconstitute the Soviet Union or the Tsarist Empire. The conflict in Ukraine is a significant step towards achieving these goals, and it's crucial for the international community to respond appropriately to prevent further escalation.

    • Historical roots of Russia's distinct identity from the WestRussia's unique perspective, rooted in history and cultural identity, shapes its worldview and fuels its geopolitical ambitions, distinguishing it from the West.

      Russia's perception of itself as distinct from the West is deeply rooted in its history and cultural identity. This perspective can be traced back to the debates between Westernizers and Slavophiles in the 19th century, Peter the Great's attempts to westernize Russia, and even the Russian Orthodox Church's claim to be the true center of Christianity. Putin's desire to regain Russia's privileged position on the global stage and rejection of the Western political and economic model further highlight this unique perspective. Despite some connections to the West through Christianity, Russia's exceptionalism and messianic beliefs have shaped its worldview and fueled its geopolitical ambitions.

    • The Russian Orthodox Church functions as an arm of the Russian governmentThe historical relationship of state control over the Russian Orthodox Church hinders the development of Western traditions of personal liberty and independence in Russia.

      The relationship between the Russian Orthodox Church and the Russian government is not one of independence, but rather one of state control. The Moscow Patriarchate, while ostensibly separate, functions as an arm of the Russian government under Putin's control. This historical context of state capture of the Orthodox Church in Russia is a significant factor in understanding Russia's perception of itself as an autonomous community separate from the West. Unlike the development of democratic thought in the West, which was influenced by the independence of religion from state control, Russia's Orthodox Church has always been under the control of the Tsar or the current political power. This lack of separation between church and state has hindered the development of Western traditions of personal liberty and independence in Russia. The recent granting of autocephaly to the Ukrainian Orthodox Church by the Istanbul Patriarchate is a prime example of Putin's resistance to any perceived encroachment on Russia's religious sphere of influence.

    • Historical distrust between Russia and the WestThe historical distrust between Russia and the West stems from ideological differences and Soviet isolationism, with Putin's leadership further perpetuating this divide due to Western actions and Russian perceptions.

      The historical distrust between Russia and the West can be traced back to the Bolshevik Revolution and the ideological clash between Marxism-Leninism and the capitalist world. The Soviet Union's isolationist policies and totalitarian nature further solidified this divide. Despite the end of the Soviet Union, there remains a lingering sense of inertia and paranoia in Russia regarding the West's intentions. Putin, a former KGB officer, embodies this distrust and has accepted the notion of Russia as a superpower and the world's hostility towards it. The rapid Western consolidation of former Soviet territories, particularly Ukraine, has also contributed to this ongoing tension.

    • NATO's Expansion in the 1990s: Not an Immediate Threat to RussiaNATO expanded gradually, offering partnerships to Russia, not as a threat but to provide a buffer against potential threats and help bring former Warsaw Pact states into NATO's standards.

      The expansion of NATO in the 1990s did not happen immediately after the Soviet Union's collapse, and it was not done with the intention of threatening Russia. Instead, NATO reached out to Russia and established partnerships, offering technical assistance. Germany was reunited and remained in NATO, but there was no further expansion until 1997. The open door policy of NATO, allowing any state to request admission, was not a new addition but was part of the North Atlantic Charter from the Alliance's inception. NATO's expansion was aimed at providing a buffer for Western Europe against potential threats and helping bring former Warsaw Pact states into compliance with NATO standards, not just militarily but also legally, morally, and ethically.

    • The US and Russia's post-Cold War relations: Complex interactionsDespite the US's invitation to join a voluntary organization aimed at preserving freedom, Russia's deep-seated distrust and belief in autonomous destiny led to rejection. Putin's grievances from the 1990s, marked by economic instability and violence, continue to shape Russia's relationship with the West.

      The historical context of post-Cold War relations between the US and Russia should not be viewed as a simple duality between the US and its allies versus Russia and its satellites. Instead, it was a complex web of interactions between the Soviet Union and its bloc, and the US and its allies, with the US serving as a leading member in a voluntary organization aimed at preserving freedom at political and economic levels. However, Russia's rejection of this invitation to join the association is rooted in deep-seated distrust and a belief in an autonomous destiny. The 1990s, a time of great hardship for Russians, played a significant role in shaping Putin's worldview. Putin, who initially identified as a democrat, became disillusioned with the West's role in Russia's humiliation during this period and developed a deep sense of grievance. This grievance, fueled by the economic instability and violence of the 1990s, led Putin to blame both Gorbachev and the West for Russia's plight. This narrative, which emerged in the early Putin years, continues to shape Russia's relationship with the West today.

    • Russia's grievance narrative against the West traces back to the chaotic post-Soviet periodRussians struggling to understand economic and social turmoil blamed the West, creating a powerful tool for leaders to unite population against a common enemy and deflect responsibility

      Russia's current grievance narrative against the West, which portrays the West as an enemy trying to keep Russia down, can be traced back to the chaotic post-Soviet period in the 1990s. During this time, many Russians struggled to understand the causes of their country's economic and social turmoil. Some Russians, including Vladimir Putin, blamed the West for Russia's misfortunes and created a narrative that the West was intentionally keeping Russia from regaining its former greatness. This narrative, which has been perpetuated through hybrid war tactics such as information warfare and gaslighting, has become a powerful tool for Russian leaders to unite the Russian population against a common enemy and deflect responsibility for Russia's internal problems. It's important to note that this narrative is not a conspiracy theory, but rather a reflection of how some Russians have interpreted their country's history and current geopolitical situation.

    • Russia's use of hybrid warfare in the digital spaceRussia manipulates digital info through bot farms to create narratives justifying actions against the West

      There is a significant amount of evidence that Russia engages in hybrid warfare, which includes psychological warfare and manipulation of information in the digital space. This is not a conspiracy theory, but a documented fact, as evidenced by Russian doctrine and the actions of Russian military commanders. Russian bot farms are a major component of this warfare, and they aim to manipulate social media by creating the illusion of independent voices and corroborating Russian narratives. The extent of this activity is significant, but social media companies have made progress in detecting and shutting down bot accounts. The goal of this warfare is to create a narrative that portrays the West as an enemy and justifies Russian actions. It's important to be aware of this and to critically evaluate information we encounter online.

    • Hybrid Warfare: Creating Confusion and ChaosRussia's use of Hybrid Warfare, including disinformation and propaganda campaigns, successfully achieved political and strategic objectives in the annexation of Crimea without full-scale war, but continues to pose a significant threat by blurring the lines between truth and falsehood and eroding trust among nations.

      Hybrid warfare, a tactic used by Russia to achieve political and strategic objectives without resorting to conventional warfare, has been effective in creating confusion and chaos, isolating victims, and paralyzing effective responses. This approach, which includes disinformation and propaganda campaigns, was used successfully in the annexation of Crimea in 2014, leading to the Minsk Accords and a prolonged conflict in Ukraine. The goal was to achieve Russian objectives without engaging in full-scale war, which was not feasible due to the military's weakness. The success of this approach relied on sowing doubt and confusion, making it difficult for the international community to respond effectively. This tactic continues to pose a significant threat, as the lines between truth and falsehood become increasingly blurred, and trust among nations wanes.

    • Recognition of Ukraine's IndependenceUkraine is an internationally recognized independent country, but Russia's actions in the region violate international agreements and treaties, making them illegal.

      The concept of a country and its independence is not always clear-cut and has evolved throughout history. While there may be moral impulses towards even-handedness and self-correction, there are also instances where decisive action requires moral certainty and even-handedness may not be possible. Regarding the ongoing conflict in Ukraine, it's essential to acknowledge that Ukraine has been recognized as an independent country by the international community, including Russia, through various agreements and treaties. The UN and the community of states recognize a new member as an independent state by granting them diplomatic relations and a seat in the UN. In 1991, all the former Soviet states, including Ukraine, were recognized as independent states and established diplomatic relations with the world. Moreover, in 1994, Ukraine handed back its nuclear weapons in exchange for Russia, the UK, and the US recognizing its territorial integrity as it was at the time. Russia's recent actions in Ukraine violate these agreements and treaties, making them illegal under international law.

    • Complex reasons for Putin's invasion of UkrainePutin's invasion of Ukraine was likely driven by a combination of factors, including geopolitical considerations and a potential inflection point in his gradualist approach to regaining control of Ukraine. It's important to learn from past mistakes and continue analyzing the situation to adapt to changing circumstances.

      The reasons for Russia's invasion of Ukraine now are complex and multifaceted, and it's not clear that there's a simple explanation for Putin's decision to escalate his actions against Ukraine at this particular moment. Some analysts suggest that Putin's gradualist approach to regaining control of Ukraine may have reached an inflection point, with the buildup of military presence on the border potentially changing the situation and making an invasion more likely. Others point to geopolitical considerations, such as perceived Western weakness or partisan motivations. However, it's important to note that there are no clear answers to why Putin chose to invade now, and that there are also errors and misunderstandings that contributed to the failure to predict this outcome. It's crucial to acknowledge these mistakes and learn from them as we continue to analyze and respond to Putin's actions. Ultimately, the invasion of Ukraine is a reminder of the importance of understanding complex geopolitical situations and the need for ongoing analysis and adaptation in the face of changing circumstances.

    • Russia-Ukraine Conflict: Historical Roots and Geopolitical ImplicationsPutin's invasion of Ukraine faced pushback from Biden's counter-hybrid warfare campaign, disrupting his plans and potentially contributing to the full-scale invasion. Despite the power imbalance, Ukrainian resistance and international support have kept the situation from being completely in Russia's favor.

      The ongoing conflict between Russia and Ukraine is a complex issue with deep historical roots and geopolitical implications. While Putin's intentions for invading Ukraine remain unclear, it is evident that he faced significant pushback from the Biden administration's counter-hybrid warfare campaign. This campaign, which involved exposing Russian disinformation and propaganda, successfully disrupted Putin's plans and may have contributed to his decision to launch a full-scale invasion. Despite the significant power imbalance between the two militaries, the Ukrainian resistance and international support have kept the situation from being completely in Russia's favor. The long-term consequences of this conflict, including potential escalation and geopolitical repercussions, are still uncertain.

    • Disorganized Russian invasion and determined Ukrainian forcesThe Russian invasion of Ukraine has been hampered by poor organizational structure and the determined resistance of Ukrainian forces, making it a complex and challenging endeavor for both sides.

      The Russian invasion of Ukraine has been hampered by poor organizational structure and the determination of Ukrainian forces. Mechanized warfare is a complex endeavor, requiring effective command and control of multiple units. The Russians, however, assembled their forces in Belarus and Western Russia in a disorganized manner, pulling individual battalion tactical groups from various parent units rather than entire regiments or brigades. This lack of cohesion has led to difficulties coordinating attacks and responding to Ukrainian defenses. Furthermore, Ukrainian forces have shown remarkable determination and resilience, surprising Putin and adding to the challenges the Russians face. On the international front, the cohesive response to the invasion has been heartening, demonstrating the importance of unity in the face of aggression.

    • International Community's Response to Russia's Invasion of Ukraine: Swift and Severe SanctionsSwift international sanctions limit Russia's ability to move money and interact with the global economy, particularly in relation to the dollar, but Putin may still be able to keep his military going as a dictatorship can generally make things happen.

      The international community's response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine has been swift and severe, with many countries imposing sanctions and expelling Russia from financial systems like SWIFT. These actions make it harder for Russia to move money and interact with the global economy, particularly in relation to the dollar. Notable exceptions include Syria, Venezuela, and Iran, who have supported Russia's actions. The Russian central bank's sanctions are even more significant as they limit Russia's ability to engage in the dollar economy. Despite these challenges, it's important to remember that a dictatorship can generally make things happen, and Putin may be able to keep his military going despite the economic consequences.

    • Russians Outraged by Putin's Handling of Ukraine ConflictPutin's lack of preparation and transparency in Ukraine conflict led to Russian outrage, confusion, and economic hardship, while international sanctions and military struggles compounded the challenges for Putin.

      Putin's failure to prepare the Russian people for the invasion of Ukraine, both in terms of propaganda and military readiness, has led to widespread outrage and demonstrations within Russia. The economic sanctions imposed by the international community, combined with Putin's previous messaging about Ukraine being a brother Slavic state, has created a narrative of this being a civil war rather than an attack on Americans or Ukraine itself. Putin's lack of transparency and information about the war has left Russians confused and angry, and the economic costs of the sanctions are likely to further fuel dissent. The international community's united response and Putin's struggles on the ground add to the challenges he faces.

    • Rushing defensive weapons to UkraineSending Javelin anti-tank and Stinger anti-aircraft missiles to Ukraine can help save their country and potentially change world events. Support their humanitarian efforts and stay informed.

      The situation in Ukraine is critical and requires immediate action from the international community. The most important thing we can do is rush defensive weapons, such as anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles, to Ukraine to help them save their country and prevent a potential insurgency. This will not only be beneficial for Ukraine but could also change the course of world events. The weapons being sent primarily include Javelin anti-tank missiles and Stinger anti-aircraft missiles, which have proven effective in similar situations in the past. It's important to support Ukraine's humanitarian efforts as well. While the situation is serious, it's crucial to remember that we are not at risk of a global thermonuclear exchange. The measured response is to insist upon Ukraine's territorial integrity without attacking or invading Russia. The international community should work together to provide defensive weapons and support, but not engage in active combat. It's important to stay informed and get involved in organizations that are helping Ukraine. Websites like understandingwar.org and criticalthreats.org provide daily updates and links to organizations like Spirit of America, which is doing great work in Ukraine.

    • Russia-Ukraine Conflict: Potential for Escalation and NATO InvolvementThe Russia-Ukraine conflict poses a significant threat to NATO, requiring adjustments to defense capabilities, budgets, and national security strategies, as well as addressing ongoing threats from China and the Middle East.

      The ongoing conflict between Russia and Ukraine has the potential to escalate into a larger conflict involving NATO, with Russia using tactics like siege and starvation campaigns and bringing weapons capable of exterminating city blocks to the border. The West is facing a decision on whether to intervene militarily to help Ukraine defend itself, which could lead to a clash with Russia and activation of Article 5 of the NATO Treaty. This would require significant changes to NATO's force posture and defense capabilities, which are not currently built for this type of threat. The US defense budget and national security documents will also need to be adjusted to address this new reality, as well as ongoing threats from China and ongoing conflicts in the Middle East. Overall, the world is facing a more dangerous and complex security environment, and significant investments in defense will be necessary to respond to these challenges.

    • Russia's Attack on Ukraine: Historical and Proximal MotivationsRussia's unprovoked attack on Ukraine led to significant challenges, requiring international support for Ukraine's defense. Motivations are historical and proximal, and escalation is a concern, but heroic Ukrainians defend their country.

      Russia's unprovoked attack on Ukraine, a sovereign state, has led to significant challenges for Russia both on the ground and internationally. The motivations for this attack can be traced historically and proximally. The situation is complex, and while there are pitfalls associated with Ukraine's defense, it is crucial to support their efforts. The world response is expected to be measured and careful, and while there is potential for escalation, the immediate danger may not be radical. It is essential to acknowledge and salute the heroic Ukrainians defending their country and those helping them. This is an ongoing situation, and we will continue to monitor and report on developments. Slava ukraini. Glory to Ukraine.

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    University of Buckingham course - Woke: the Origins, Dynamics and Implications of an Elite Ideology https://www.buckingham.ac.uk/courses/occasional/woke/?_gl=1*5vuahc*_up*MQ..*_ga*MTMzNzMwNDE3Ny4xNzE2ODQ3MjIy*_ga_PWEL0GXNN9*MTcxNjg0NzIyMi4xLjAuMTcxNjg0NzIyMi4wLjAuMA..

     

    Centre for Heterodox Social Science https://www.heterodoxcentre.com/

     

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