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    #234: Haggling and Deal Making Advice From a FBI Hostage Negotiator

    enSeptember 14, 2016

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    • Making 'no' your goal in negotiationEffective negotiation involves understanding the other party's perspective, building rapport, and using open-ended questions to uncover their interests and needs, ultimately leading to a better outcome for both parties, rather than making compromises or quickly reaching a 'yes'.

      Effective negotiation is not about quickly reaching a "yes" or making compromises, but rather making "no" your goal and never splitting the difference. This counterintuitive approach was developed and tested by Chris Voss, a former lead international kidnapping negotiator for the FBI, who shares his tactics and strategies in his book "Never Split the Difference: Negotiating As If Your Life Depended On It." While most people might assume that the best way to negotiate is to make compromises, Voss argues that the key to successful negotiation is to understand the other party's perspective, build rapport, and use open-ended questions to uncover their interests and needs. By focusing on making "no" your goal, you can ultimately reach a better outcome for both parties. Whether you're negotiating a job salary or a car price, these strategies can be applied in various situations to help you become a more effective negotiator.

    • Revolutionizing FBI negotiation tacticsEmpathy, active listening, and open-ended questions build rapport and understanding in negotiations

      Effective negotiation involves more than just being patient and out-powering the other side. During his time at the FBI, Chris Voss discovered the importance of reading between the lines and making a difference through communication. Before his tenure, standard protocols for FBI agents mainly involved stalling for time and trying to outlast the opposition. However, Voss revolutionized negotiation by learning how to use empathy, active listening, and open-ended questions to build rapport and understand the other party's perspective. His book, "Never Split the Difference," shares these tactics and teaches civilians how to apply them in their personal and professional lives, leading to successful negotiations without resorting to conflict or leaving toxic waste behind.

    • Toxic negotiation environments and the importance of learning from failureFormer FBI hostage negotiator Chris Voss shares how toxic negotiation environments can hinder future cooperation and the importance of adapting and learning from failure to develop effective psychological nuances for negotiation.

      Open conflict in negotiation can leave toxic waste and hinder future cooperation. Former FBI hostage negotiator Chris Voss shares his experience with this concept, using Donald Trump as an example of someone who left a toxic negotiation environment in his wake. Voss recalls a particularly difficult hostage situation in the Philippines, where the use of traditional negotiation tactics failed. This experience led him to reevaluate his approach and seek new ideas, ultimately leading to the development of more effective psychological nuances for negotiation. One such technique is the use of the "how" question, which can stop the other party in their tracks and lead to new insights. Voss also discusses the importance of adapting existing knowledge to new situations and being open to unconventional sources of inspiration. Overall, Voss emphasizes the importance of continuous learning and improvement in the field of negotiation.

    • Assumptions in Negotiation: Dangerous but CommonChallenge assumptions, focus on understanding, and ask clarifying questions to improve negotiation outcomes. Avoid becoming 'hostages of yes' and be aware of deceptive 'yes' responses.

      Assumptions in negotiation can lead to misunderstandings and unproductive outcomes. Gary Nestor shared an experience where the assumption that hostages never speak on the phone led them to not ask crucial questions during a hostage situation. This assumption, though common, is not always true. Another assumption that can hinder negotiation success is the belief that everyone is out to get the best deal at your expense. This mindset can make negotiations adversarial and defensive, rather than collaborative. Additionally, people often become "hostages of yes," becoming overly fixated on hearing the word "yes" that they overlook the importance of understanding the "how" behind the agreement. This can lead to incomplete or deceptive deals. Counterparts in negotiations may use "yes" as a throwaway or deceptive response, so it's essential to be aware of the context and the underlying intentions behind the agreement. To improve negotiation outcomes, it's crucial to challenge assumptions, focus on understanding the other party's perspective, and ask clarifying questions to ensure a thorough understanding of the deal's terms and implications.

    • Understanding Different Types of YesesBe aware of commitment, confirmation, and counterfeit yeses in negotiations. Aim for 'that's right' for stronger connections and productive discussions.

      There are different types of yeses in negotiations, and being aware of them is crucial. The three types are commitment, confirmation, and counterfeit. Mirror agreement, where a person tries to get you to say yes several times to make a big yes easier, is a common tactic used by some negotiators. However, this can lead to wasting valuable time and resources under the illusion of a potential deal. Instead, aim for "that's right," as it signifies the other party acknowledging the truth of what you're saying, even if it's not their solution. This can lead to a stronger connection and potential for productive discussions. Be cautious of counterfeit yeses and focus on finding genuine agreement.

    • Effective communication and empathetic listening in negotiationsAcknowledging and validating others' feelings and perspectives through tactical empathy and active listening builds strong relationships and successful negotiations. Setting low expectations can also be an effective negotiation tactic.

      Effective communication and empathetic listening are crucial in building strong relationships and achieving successful negotiations. By acknowledging and validating others' feelings and perspectives, even if they seem counter to our interests, we can create a bond and move towards agreement. This approach, known as tactical empathy, involves observing and responding to emotions in a non-judgmental way, which can help diminish negatives and nurture positives. Additionally, setting low expectations can be an effective negotiation tactic, as people often expect the worst and are relieved when things turn out better than anticipated. Overall, active listening and empathetic communication require a strategic and mercenary approach, rather than a feel-good or passive one.

    • Mirroring: Repeating last few words to reveal more infoMirroring involves repeating last few words someone says to keep them talking, deepen connection, and gain a better understanding of their perspective

      Effective communication and negotiation involve truly understanding the other person's perspective, not just empathizing with their emotions. One tactic for achieving this is mirroring, which involves repeating the last few words someone says to keep them talking and reveal more information. This technique, while simple, can be incredibly effective, as demonstrated in various situations such as hostage negotiations and radio interviews. By mirroring, you allow the other person to expand on their thoughts and clarify their meaning, leading to a deeper connection and a better understanding of their perspective. This approach, focused on "that's right" rather than "yes," can lead to more successful negotiations and stronger relationships.

    • Negotiating with 'no'Asking for a 'no' can lead to more collaboration and better outcomes in negotiations. By respecting the other party's ability to say no, negotiations can become more productive and effective.

      In negotiations, getting a "no" response can be more beneficial than striving for a "yes." According to the speaker, when someone feels they have the freedom to say no, they become less defensive and more collaborative. This psychological process can lead to better outcomes for both parties. The speaker shares various examples, including a negotiator who successfully prevented her removal from a team by asking her boss if he wanted her to fail, and a fundraising committee that saw a 23% increase in donations by flipping their questions from yes to no. By allowing people to protect themselves with a "no," negotiations can move forward more effectively and productively.

    • Calibrated questioning: Triggering the right emotional responseAsking calibrated questions can create a feeling of empowerment and deeper understanding, increasing the chances of a successful outcome.

      Using a calibrated questioning approach in negotiations or daily interactions can help persuade people more effectively. This technique is based on the idea that every question triggers an emotional response, and by calibrating the questions, we can predict and control the emotional response we desire. Jack Welch's story illustrates this concept well. Instead of pushing for a yes, he asked a question designed to trigger a no, which put Welch in a defensive mode and opened up communication. Calibrated questions create a feeling of empowerment in the other person while limiting their responses, allowing for a deeper level of empathy and understanding. By asking calibrated questions, we can build stronger connections and increase the chances of a successful outcome.

    • Use of 'how' questions in negotiation'How' questions help understand practical steps, empower others, and adapt to unexpected events in negotiation.

      The use of "how" questions is a powerful negotiation tool. Instead of focusing on open-ended questions like "why," which can make us feel vulnerable, "how" questions help us understand the practical steps needed to move forward. In a negotiation context, "how" questions can be used to extract maximum value from the other party without causing them to become angry or threatening legal action. Additionally, the absence of a clear "how" can indicate that a deal is not truly possible. This technique is not only effective in business negotiations but also in everyday life situations, such as dealing with a demanding boss. The use of "how" questions in a deferential tone can make the other party feel appreciated and empowered, leading to a more productive and positive outcome. In the realm of negotiation, it's crucial to be on the lookout for potential "black swans," which are unpredictable events that can significantly impact the negotiation process. By being aware of these unexpected developments, we can better prepare ourselves and adapt to the changing circumstances.

    • Uncovering hidden information in negotiations: Black SwansThrough thoughtful questioning and emotional intelligence, negotiators can uncover hidden information and potential opportunities in negotiations, improving outcomes.

      During negotiations, there are hidden pieces of information, known as "black swans," that can significantly impact the outcome of the deal. These unknowns exist on the overlap of each side's hidden information. By asking thoughtful questions and being open to new ideas, you can uncover these black swans and potentially improve the deal or discover new opportunities. Emotional intelligence, including skills like labeling and mirroring, can help you practice negotiation regularly and effectively. These skills can be developed and honed over time, unlike IQ, making emotional intelligence a valuable asset in all types of negotiations, big or small. To learn more about these tactics and techniques, check out Chris Voss's book "Never Split the Difference."

    • Learn effective negotiation skills from SWAN, L-T-D and Chris VossInvest in your negotiation skills by utilizing SWAN, L-T-D's resources and Chris Voss' book 'Never Split the Difference' for valuable insights and techniques.

      If you're looking to improve your negotiation skills, check out SWAN, L-T-D (Black Swan Group) and their resources, including their free negotiation newsletter and downloadable PDFs. Chris Voss, the author of "Never Split the Difference" and owner of SWAN, L-T-D, offers valuable insights and techniques to help individuals negotiate effectively. Visit their website for more information and resources to invest in your future success. Remember, the Art of Manliness Podcast is a great resource for manly tips and advice, so make sure to check out their website, ArtofManliness.com, for more information. If you've enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a review on iTunes or Stitcher to support the show. Stay Manly!

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