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    58: Jason Flom | Why Criminal Justice Reform Matters to the Innocent

    en-usJune 21, 2018

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    • Creating a special experience for Airbnb guestsTransforming a home into an Airbnb brings joy and income, making guests feel cherished and welcomed creates memorable experiences.

      Creating a welcoming and special experience for guests in your home, whether it's through Airbnb or hosting friends and family, can bring joy and additional income. Jason and Jen, the hosts of the podcast, shared their experience of transforming their home into an Airbnb and the delight they've brought to their guests by adding personal touches. They emphasized the importance of making guests feel cherished and welcomed, turning an otherwise idle home into an opportunity for new adventures and connections. Additionally, the episode featured a promotion for Nordstrom Rack's Mother's Day sale and a mention of the Commercial Break podcast, which explores absurd topics and life experiences. Jason Flom, the music industry executive and podcast host, shared insights into the music industry and the importance of relationships and staying relevant, as well as his upcoming book, "Lulu is a Rhinoceros."

    • Supporting the underdogsEmpathize with those being bullied, teach children kindness, and take action to make a difference for people and animals.

      Everyone has the responsibility to support and uplift those who are being bullied or oppressed, regardless of whether it's a person or an animal. The speaker, who has a history of helping underdogs and causes, shares his personal experiences with bullying and the profound impact it has had on him. He emphasizes the importance of teaching children to be kind and stand up for those being bullied, as it can have a lasting effect on both parties. He also shares his concern for endangered animals, such as rhinoceroses, and the importance of understanding that their horns have no medicinal value and are made of the same material as human fingernails. Overall, the discussion highlights the importance of empathy, tolerance, and taking action to make a positive difference in the world.

    • Caring for Our VeteransWe must do better in supporting and caring for homeless veterans and those in prison for nonviolent crimes, as they have served and protected us.

      We have a responsibility to care for and support those who have served our country, particularly our veterans. The sad reality is that there are homeless veterans and veterans in prison for nonviolent crimes, which is unacceptable. The speaker's experience working with VetPAW in Africa, protecting endangered species and training African rangers using military tactics, led him to a deeper understanding of the importance of caring for and valuing those who have served. His conversation with his son, who is disturbed by the existence of homeless veterans, further emphasizes the need for a stronger support system for veterans. The speaker's own efforts, through his podcast and book, aim to move the needle on these issues and instill values of compassion and care early on to prevent bullying and intolerance. Ultimately, the speaker's message is that we must do better in caring for and supporting those who have served and protected us.

    • From Aspiring Rockstar to Music Industry ProSometimes, when our plans don't work out, unexpected opportunities can lead to success. A supportive family and chance encounters can also play a significant role in shaping our futures.

      Despite having lofty aspirations to become a rock star, the speaker's lack of talent and support from his family led him to find success in an unexpected way. He grew up with a nomadic family, and when he announced his decision to not go to college to pursue music, his father gave him a year to prove himself. However, his mother vetoed the deal, forcing him to go to work or attend school. The speaker ended up getting a job as a trainee field merchandiser at Atlantic Records, where he hung up posters for free, effectively getting paid to receive free records. This experience was a turning point for him, as he forgot about performing music and instead focused on being a part of the music industry. This story illustrates how sometimes, when our initial plans don't work out, we can find success in unexpected ways. It also highlights the importance of having a supportive family and the role of chance encounters in shaping our futures.

    • Following your passion leads to successPursue your passions, even if it's not the most conventional path, and trust your instincts to overcome challenges and find success.

      Following your passion and striving to be the best at it, while making a positive impact on the world, is the key to success. This was a lesson shared by the speaker's father and inspired him to pursue a career in the A&R (Artists and Repertoire) department of the music industry, despite not being the best at basketball. A&R is a role where individuals scout for new talent, and the speaker found this to be the most appealing part of the business. However, he cautions that this field is challenging and requires a strong backbone, as there are many rejections and mistakes. Some of the biggest successes come from unexpected places and may not be understood by everyone. Ultimately, trusting your instincts and persisting in the face of adversity can lead to great rewards.

    • From obscurity to global fame in daysThe internet's power to spread information rapidly can lead to unexpected opportunities and success for artists and others.

      The power of the internet and the speed at which information can spread can lead to unexpected discoveries and opportunities. A 15-year-old New Zealand artist, with only 200 plays on SoundCloud, went from obscurity to global fame with her song "Royals." The song became a massive hit, and the team it was named after, the Royals, even went on to win the World Series. This all happened within just a few days of her releasing the song online. Talent, hard work, and a bit of luck played a role in her success, but the real game-changer was the internet and the way information can spread rapidly around the world. It's a reminder of the incredible opportunities that can come our way when we least expect it.

    • Discovering and nurturing young artistic talentSupporting raw talent requires recognizing it, stepping out of comfort zones, ensuring well-being, and managing risks for potential rewards

      The early discovery and nurturing of exceptional artistic talent can lead to remarkable success, but it also comes with unique challenges and responsibilities. The story of this young musician, who became a Grammy winner by the age of 13, highlights the importance of recognizing and supporting raw talent, even if it means stepping out of one's comfort zone. However, it's crucial to remember that managing a young artist's career involves more than just making them famous and making money; it also involves ensuring their well-being and protecting them from potential pitfalls. The road to success is rarely straightforward, and there are always risks involved, but the potential rewards can be significant. The experience of being part of a music discovery and seeing the impact of the music on people's lives is an exciting and rewarding feeling, whether it's on a small scale or a massive one.

    • The power of friendliness and outgoing nature in the music industryFriendliness and outgoing nature can lead to success in the music industry by helping connect with new artists and promoting work passionately.

      Being friendly and outgoing in the music industry can lead to success. The speaker shares his experience of discovering new artists in a small recording studio, who went from almost selling out an empty room to performing in front of huge crowds in a short period. He attributes his role in their success to his friendly and outgoing nature, which he believes is infectious and helps him connect with people. He also mentions that he's had success in other areas of life by default, as he's not good at being an asshole. The speaker emphasizes the importance of promoting one's work and being passionate about it, as he is doing with his book. He also highlights the importance of treating animals with kindness and ensuring their well-being. Overall, the speaker's success can be attributed to his positive attitude, friendliness, and passion for what he does.

    • Discovering potential hits and making a positive impactWhile personal satisfaction comes from signing popular artists and attending concerts, creating a positive impact through organizations and authentic music is more rewarding.

      While signing popular artists and attending concerts may provide personal satisfaction, the true legacy comes from making a positive impact on people's lives. The speaker shares his experiences of discovering artists before they became famous and acknowledges that his role in their careers might not be remembered in the long run. Instead, he values the work he does with organizations like the Innocence Project and helping individuals get out of prison or get back on their feet. He also discusses the challenges of identifying potential hits and the importance of authenticity in the music industry. Ultimately, he emphasizes that creating something genuinely great is more rewarding than trying to manipulate the system.

    • Discovering new music and opportunitiesEmbrace the unpredictability of life, take risks, and seize opportunities to discover great music and potential gems.

      Discovering new, unheard music on the internet through platforms like Forgotify.com can be a fun and intriguing experience. However, with the vast amount of new music being released each week, it can be challenging to determine if you're missing out on potential gems. The speaker suggests that there's a bit of destiny in discovering great opportunities in life and encourages taking risks and seizing opportunities when they present themselves. The concept of a "nonmoving violation" was introduced, which refers to missing an opportunity without trying. The speaker emphasizes the importance of being open, taking initiative, and not being afraid of rejection. Ultimately, it's impossible to catch every great idea or opportunity, but the potential rewards of trying make it worthwhile.

    • Embrace the present and let go of the pastAcknowledge past mistakes, learn from them, and focus on the present to fully appreciate life's moments and find joy and meaning.

      Dwelling on the past can hinder our ability to fully experience the present. It's important to acknowledge past mistakes, learn from them, and then move forward. The present moment is a gift, and focusing too much on the past can prevent us from fully appreciating it. The universe sometimes sends us signs, in the form of coincidences or synchronicities, to remind us that we are on the right path. These signs can serve as encouragement to let go of the past and keep moving forward. By staying open to these signs and focusing on the present, we can find joy and meaning in our experiences. So, instead of getting bogged down by regrets or fears about the future, try to embrace the present and trust that the universe has a plan for you.

    • Embrace the present and learn from past mistakesFocus on the present and find joy in it, learn from past mistakes instead of dwelling on them.

      Everyone makes mistakes and misses opportunities in life, but it's important to remember that these experiences are a part of our destiny. We cannot change the past, and dwelling on missed opportunities can be detrimental. Instead, focusing on being present and doing what we love is the best way to live. It's essential to give ourselves forgiveness and understand that everything happens for a reason. The meaning of life can be found in the present moment, and we should strive to spend as much time as possible in that state. It's natural to get distracted, but it's important to refocus on the present and the things that bring us joy. Ultimately, the past does not matter, and we should not waste time regretting what we cannot change. Instead, we should embrace the present and make the most of every moment.

    • The resilience and forgiveness of wrongfully convicted individualsWrongfully convicted individuals often find hope and spiritual growth despite unjust imprisonment. Assert your rights and seek legal help if falsely accused.

      The resilience and forgiveness of individuals who have been wrongfully convicted is truly remarkable. Despite enduring unjust imprisonment, many of these individuals find a way to let go of bitterness and anger, leading to profound spiritual awakenings. Their stories serve as a reminder of the importance of maintaining hope and sanity, even in the face of adversity. It's crucial for all of us, especially potential jurors, to be aware of the prevalence of false accusations and the potential for corruption within the justice system. If you ever find yourself in such a situation, remember to assert your right to remain silent and request a lawyer as soon as possible.

    • Women in Prison: An American Tragedy33% of the world's female prison population is in America, highlighting the disproportionate incarceration of women and the need for criminal justice reform. Hearing the stories of wrongfully convicted women can inspire action towards change.

      The criminal justice system in America disproportionately incarcerates women, with 33% of the world's female prison population. This is a pressing issue that often goes unnoticed. During a live event at the Kings Theatre in Brooklyn on June 27th, I will be presenting "Wrongful Conviction Presents Women in Prison, an American Tragedy," alongside women who have been wrongfully convicted, including Nora Jackson, Michelle Murphy, and Sabrina Butler. Their stories of unjust convictions and the impact on their lives will be a powerful reminder of the need for criminal justice reform. These women, despite being exonerated, faced unimaginable hardships, including prolonged imprisonment and the destruction of their lives. Their stories serve as a call to action to challenge the systemic injustices faced by women in the criminal justice system. The event aims to open people's eyes to the reality of wrongful convictions and inspire practical steps towards reform. Hearing these stories can put things into perspective and foster a greater sense of gratitude and resilience in the face of life's challenges.

    • Challenges Faced by Ex-Prisoners Upon ReleaseEx-prisoners face immense obstacles upon release, including inhumane prison conditions, loss of support systems, and societal stigma. It's essential to treat them with dignity and provide resources for reintegration.

      Everyone, regardless of wealth, ethnicity, or past mistakes, faces challenges and struggles in life. A particularly challenging situation is that of individuals who have served time in prison and face immense obstacles upon release. Our prisons, intended to be correctional institutions, have instead become punishment institutions, subjecting inmates to inhumane conditions. Upon release, these individuals often face a world that has moved on, and they may have lost touch with their families or support systems. This is especially true for those who have been wrongfully convicted and released innocent. It's crucial that we treat these individuals as humans deserving of dignity and support, and provide them with resources and opportunities to reintegrate into society. This not only benefits the individuals but also society as a whole. By changing the narrative and advocating for reforms, we can help create a more compassionate and just system.

    • Wrongful convictions in the US criminal justice systemBeing aware and serving on juries, advocating for bail reform, and staying vigilant can help prevent wrongful convictions and promote a more equitable criminal justice system.

      The criminal justice system in the United States is flawed and can result in wrongful convictions, leading to wasted human potential and increased crime rates. Lorenzo Johnson, a guest on the podcast, is an example of someone who served 22 years in prison for a crime he didn't commit. This issue is not limited to individuals from disadvantaged backgrounds; cases like Michael Morton's, Doug Delosa's, and others demonstrate that anyone can be wrongfully convicted. To prevent such injustices, it's crucial to be aware and serve on juries. Additionally, addressing the issue of bail reform and creating a more equitable system for all is essential. The system may have good people working within it, but the potential for error and injustice exists, and it's our responsibility to be vigilant and advocate for change.

    • Stories of Innocent Individuals Wrongfully ConvictedStay informed, vote for district attorneys, serve on juries, and raise awareness to help prevent and address wrongful convictions. Media like podcasts and shows can increase awareness.

      Wrongful convictions are a pervasive issue in the justice system that can affect anyone, regardless of their background or community. Jason Flom, a podcast host and advocate for those wrongfully convicted, shared numerous stories of innocent individuals who were sentenced to death or lengthy prison terms. These cases are not isolated incidents but are happening all over the country. It's crucial for everyone to get involved in making a difference by voting for district attorneys, serving on juries, and raising awareness. The media also plays a significant role in increasing awareness through shows like "Making a Murderer" and "Serial." By taking action and staying informed, we can help prevent and address wrongful convictions. Remember, it's an epidemic that requires our attention and collective effort to change. For more information, visit Jason's Instagram @isjasonflom or check out his podcast, Wrongful Conviction. Together, we can make a difference.

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