Podcast Summary
The Global Rise of Populist Authoritarians: A Cultural Backlash: The shift towards valuing cultural values like self-expression and tolerance has led to a cultural backlash, fueling the rise of populist politicians who tap into people's fears and anxieties about change, a global phenomenon occurring in various contexts and countries.
The appeal of politicians like Donald Trump and those with similar characteristics isn't unique to the United States. The rise of populist authoritarians is a global phenomenon, happening in various contexts and countries, regardless of their economic status or levels of immigration. According to Pippa Norris, a comparative political scientist, this trend can be explained by the "silent revolution in cultural values." In the past, people prioritized materialism and security, but as younger generations emerged, they began to value cultural values such as self-expression and tolerance. However, this shift has led to a cultural backlash, fueling the rise of populist politicians who tap into people's fears and anxieties about this change. This backlash is not limited to any specific country or situation, making it crucial to understand the underlying theories that explain this global trend.
The Silent Revolution: A shift in values and priorities: The 1960s and 70s brought about societal changes that influenced politics, leading to the rise of post-material issues and the emergence of new movements and parties. Key evidence includes progress towards women's equality, the decline of religion, and the emergence of new political issues and parties.
The societal changes during the 1960s and 70s led to a shift in values and priorities among younger generations, which in turn influenced politics. This era, known as the Silent Revolution, saw the rise of post-material issues such as freedom, autonomy, and diversity. Movements like the environmental movement, women's equality, and the LGBTQ movement emerged, leading to new parties and leaders. Three key pieces of evidence of this shift include the progress towards women's equality, the decline of religion, and the emergence of new political issues and parties. For instance, the feminist movement led to the acceptance of women's equal role in society and the workplace, while the decline of religion led to a more secular focus in politics. Additionally, new political issues and parties emerged, such as the Green Party and various social justice movements, reflecting the changing values of the population.
The impact of secularization and generational change on society: Secularization and generational change have significantly influenced societal values and priorities, with younger generations being less religious and having different values than older ones.
Throughout history, there have been significant shifts in societal values and priorities. Two major developments that have altered the political and social landscape are secularization and generational change. Secularization refers to the decline of religious practices and identifications, which started in Europe among Protestants and later affected the Catholic church. This trend has continued into the present day, with younger generations being less religious than older ones. Another major development is generational change, which refers to the fact that people form their core values and attitudes during their formative years. These values then stick with them throughout their lives, making generations distinct from one another. For example, people growing up during times of economic uncertainty prioritize security and stability, while younger generations take these things for granted and prioritize other values such as social tolerance and individual freedom. These generational shifts have had a profound impact on our societies and continue to shape our politics and cultural discourse.
Generational shifts in values and attitudes: Younger generations are becoming more post-materialist and culturally liberal, while older generations feel left behind and seek solace in authoritarian populist movements.
Generational changes have been accelerating at an unprecedented pace, leading to significant shifts in values, attitudes, and lifestyles. This phenomenon, known as the "silent revolution," has seen younger generations become more post-materialist and culturally liberal, while older generations feel increasingly left behind. The older generation, which once held values such as patriotism, religion, and traditional family structures at the core of their identity, now finds itself in the minority as society becomes more liberal. This shift has led many older individuals to feel a sense of loss and to seek solace in authoritarian populist movements, which promise to restore the values and traditions they hold dear. However, it's important to remember that societal changes are not always linear and can be influenced by external events. These events can cause period effects, pushing society back towards more conservative values, but the underlying generational shifts remain.
Europe's Authoritarian Populist Parties: Pushing Back Against Social Liberalism and Restoring Traditional Values: European authoritarian populist parties are gaining influence, driven by opposition to immigration, diversity, and liberal values, and a desire to restore traditional values. They tap into a sense of disorientation and loss of power, promising to make things the way they were and resonating strongly with people on issues of social identity and moral values.
Authoritarian populist parties in Europe have been growing in influence and changing the political landscape, driven by a desire to push back against social liberalism and restore traditional values. This includes opposition to immigration, diversity, and liberal values on issues like reproductive rights and LGBTQ rights. At a deeper level, these parties tap into a sense of disorientation and loss of power among some people, particularly older generations, who feel that the world is changing too quickly and that their voices are being silenced. This nostalgia for the past and a promise to make things the way they were resonates strongly with people on issues of social identity and moral values. The result is a deeply divisive political climate.
Cultural desires for respect and recognition: The rise of leaders who speak for the 'silent majority' and challenge the establishment is driven by cultural desires for respect and recognition, extending beyond their materialist policies and resonating with those feeling culturally marginalized.
Cultural issues are deeply personal and can divide people at the core of their identity. The discussion highlighted the example of Brexit, where people longed for the respect of old social statuses despite the economic implications. This desire for respect and recognition has led to the rise of political parties and leaders who promise to speak for the "silent majority" and challenge the establishment. The appeal of these leaders extends beyond their materialist policies, as they also embody a transgressive aesthetic that resonates with those feeling culturally marginalized. This aesthetic includes leaders who defy conventional norms, challenge experts, and tap into the collective frustrations of the people. Understanding this dynamic is crucial for navigating the complex and often contentious cultural landscape.
Populist leaders appeal to the excluded and economically disadvantaged: Populist leaders resonate with those feeling disconnected, adopting left-leaning economics and socially conservative views, while some undermine democratic norms.
Populist leaders appeal to ordinary people, particularly those who feel culturally excluded and economically disadvantaged, by embracing transgressive rhetoric and policies. These leaders often adopt left-leaning economic policies while promoting socially conservative cultural views. The need for such leaders arises when people feel disconnected from mainstream institutions and experts who seem to disregard their values. The transgressive nature of these leaders resonates with those who feel marginalized and overlooked. However, some populist leaders also undermine democratic norms by pushing back on the rule of law, freedom of the press, and tolerance of violence. Not all populist parties embrace these transgressive tactics, but the appeal of transgressiveness as a reflection of a commitment to defend tribal identities and traditional values is a common thread among many of them.
Rise of Populist Authoritarian Parties: Long-term Shifts and Precipitating Developments: The fragmentation of party politics, economic downturns, and crises have created opportunities for populist and radical right parties to gain support and influence, leading to challenges to liberal democracies and norms.
The success of populist authoritarian parties has been on the rise since around 2010, and this can be attributed to a combination of long-term political shifts and precipitating developments. The fragmentation of party politics in post-industrial societies, caused by the weakening of traditional class identities and loyalties, created opportunities for smaller parties, including populist and radical right parties, to gain support. These parties have become more savvy at presenting a moderate image on many issues and focusing on specific concerns like immigration. The economic recession of 2008, the Eurozone crisis, and the European immigration crisis also contributed to favorable circumstances for these parties. As they gain more representation and visibility, they become more effective in elections and can even form coalitions or gain access to public funds. In contrast, majoritarian systems like the United States and the United Kingdom have seen populist leaders push for executive aggrandizement and challenge liberal democracies and norms, while coalition governments in Europe with proportional representation have seen populist parties moderate their language and policies to form coalitions with center-right parties.
The Rise of Populist Parties: Supply and Demand: Populist parties emerge due to both changing voter desires and identities, and political adaptations. Demographic shifts and cultural changes create a sense of alienation, leading voters to support populist politicians. Technology plays a role in shaping public opinion and awareness, contributing to their success.
The rise of populist parties in Europe and beyond is a result of both the supply side of politics, where parties adapt to changing circumstances, and the demand side, where voters' desires and identities shift. Tipping points, such as demographic changes and cultural shifts, can create a sense of alienation among certain groups, leading them to support populist politicians who cater to their resentments. The role of technology, like social media, in shaping public opinion and awareness cannot be overlooked. This period of profound change has led to the emergence and success of once marginalized parties, as the established parties and institutions lose ground.
Impact of Algorithmic Media on Society and Politics: Algorithmic media shapes society by presenting identity-charged stories, causing fear and anxiety, but also allows access to diverse information if users are skilled and educated.
The rise of algorithmic media and highly engagement-oriented platforms around the world, particularly around 2010 with the advent of smartphones, has significantly impacted society by confronting people with identity-charged stories, often giving an outsized view of societal changes. This media shift can lead to fear and anxiety about one's country, contributing to the rise of populist authoritarian figures. However, the role of social media in these developments is complex. While it can reinforce conspiratorial theories and misinformation, it also allows individuals to access a broader range of information if they have the skills and education to make sense of it. The impact of social media on political systems is undeniable, as seen in the successful campaigns of Barack Obama and Donald Trump, who leveraged social media to bypass traditional gatekeepers to reach their supporters. Education and intention may not be as relevant in escaping echo chambers as we wish, as algorithms increasingly determine what content individuals are served.
Social media amplifies and accelerates political polarization: Despite being a significant factor, social media doesn't cause political polarization alone. Television and historical precedents also contribute, and elites use social media to shape public discourse.
While social media has undeniably changed the way we consume and engage with politics, it may not be the sole cause of the political polarization and extremism we see today. The roots of these phenomena run deeper, and social media serves more as an amplifier and accelerator than a fundamental changer. Television remains a dominant source of information for many people, and the rise of political extremes is not a new phenomenon. The influence of social media lies more in its role as a platform for elites and decision-makers, who use it to shape public discourse and make the debates that dominate the mainstream more salient. Additionally, the current period of political polarization may not be as unusual as it seems, as historical precedents of authoritarian and populist movements exist. The discrediting of these tendencies in the recent past may have simply created an environment where they could reemerge.
The Rise of Populist Authoritarian Leaders: Beyond Economics: Despite economic theories, cultural issues and identity politics are the primary drivers of the rise of populist authoritarian leaders. Age, ethnicity, and feelings of relative deprivation are significant factors.
The rise of populist authoritarian leaders around the world from 2010 to 2022 is a complex phenomenon with various causes. While some argue it's due to economic frustration from stagnating wages and job losses, the evidence suggests it's more about cultural issues and identity politics. Populist leaders have emerged in both poor and affluent countries, and economic indicators like income or savings don't necessarily predict support for these parties. Instead, factors like age, ethnicity, and feelings of relative deprivation seem to play a bigger role. Therefore, a post-materialist left approach that addresses these cultural concerns may be more effective in countering the rise of populist authoritarianism.
Social democratic parties face challenges in addressing cultural issues: Social democratic parties focusing solely on economic policies may struggle to win back voters if cultural issues are key drivers of support for populist parties. Effective politicians can strike a balance between promising change and addressing cultural anxieties, but it requires skill and talent.
Social democratic parties aiming to win back voters by focusing solely on economic policies may be missing the mark if cultural issues are a significant driver of support for populist parties. These internal divisions on issues like reproductive rights, diversity, and immigration make it challenging for left parties to appeal to both their traditional base and the broader electorate. Center-right parties, on the other hand, can more easily adapt by accommodating populist parties on immigration policies while maintaining their economic policies. Effective politicians can strike a balance between promising change and addressing cultural anxieties, but it requires great talent and skill. The focus on literal policy positions alone may not be enough to win elections, as voters' fears and anxieties about the future also play a crucial role.
Politicians face challenges addressing cultural issues during economic instability: Addressing cultural anxieties requires more than economic solutions; politicians must navigate complex emotions and potential backlash from far-right parties.
Politicians face challenges in addressing cultural issues, particularly those related to immigration, during times of economic instability. While economic changes can be promised and delivered, cultural issues are more complex and can evoke strong emotions, making it difficult for politicians to promise drastic changes without facing backlash from both the mainstream and far-right parties. This was exemplified in the UK leadership contest, where promises of continuity and stability were made to avoid chaos and instability, but radical change on immigration was not an option due to the potential backlash from far-right parties. The economic and cultural anxieties are interconnected, and addressing economic fears solely as economic issues may be misguided, as they often stem from a deeper sense of disorientation and a longing for a return to a perceived past greatness.
Impact of economic instability and cultural shifts on democracy: Economic instability and cultural shifts can lead to anxiety and a desire for competence in government. Generational changes towards liberal values may take a long time to impact democracy, but can also lead to political instability and self-censorship.
Economic instability and cultural shifts are interconnected, leading to anxiety and a desire for competence in government. Generational changes, such as the rise of secular values and the decline of religiosity, take a long time to have an impact. However, when a large but still minority population feels their values are no longer dominant, they may become angry and energized, leading to political instability and potential self-censorship. The question is whether the long-term generational shift towards liberal values will overcome these challenges to democracy and public faith in democratic norms. The political system's response to demographic changes, including efforts to minimize them, is a significant concern.
Understanding the Popular Support for Authoritarian Leaders: New literature suggests authoritarian leaders have public support beyond force and patronage, maintained through propaganda and info manipulation.
The rise of authoritarian leaders and the backsliding of democracy in various countries around the world is a complex issue with deep political and economic roots. According to recent literature, authoritarian leaders may not only rely on coercive power or patronage, but also enjoy genuine support from the public due to their promises of security and order. This support can be maintained through effective propaganda and manipulation of information. The new literature challenges the assumption that authoritarian regimes are solely based on force, and suggests that understanding the basis of popular support for these leaders is crucial in explaining the current trend of democratic backsliding. Three recommended books on this topic are "Popular Dictatorships" by Alexander Matosky, "Spin Dictators" by Sergei Guriev and Daniel Treisman, and "The Origins of Totalitarianism" by Hannah Arendt. These books offer valuable insights into the nature of contemporary authoritarian regimes and the factors contributing to their popularity.
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