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    #191: Fight Back and Win (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream)

    en-usSeptember 13, 2023

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    • Nectarivorous bats and their unique feeding mechanismNectarivorous bats feed on nectar using enzymes to break down its strong bonds, and Armra's sustainably sourced colostrum supports mucosal health and athletic performance.

      Nectarivorous bats, despite their name, do not consume neckties, but rather feed on nectar with the help of enzymes that can break down the high-strength bonds found in nectar. The discussion also touched upon the hypothetical existence of bats that eat neckties and the possibility of them having the necessary enzymes to digest silk. The podcast hosts then invited listeners to join their live streams on Rumble and Locals, and announced their upcoming topics, which include climate, mother nature, and libraries in Canada. The sponsor for the episode was Armra, a company that produces colostrum, which is the first food consumed by mammals and helps protect and strengthen their mucosal barriers. Armra's colostrum is sourced sustainably and is known to have numerous health benefits, including increasing lean muscle mass, improving athletic performance, and reducing allergy symptoms.

    • Armour Colostrum's cold chain technology sets it apartArmour Colostrum uses cold chain technology for higher potency, removing casein and fat, resulting in clearer skin, shinier hair, stable blood sugar, accelerated fat burning, improved fitness endurance, and decreased recovery time. Paleo Valley Beef Sticks offer a healthier meat snack alternative using 100% grass-fed, organic, and naturally fermented beef.

      Armour Colostrum sets itself apart from other colostrums through its use of cold chain biopotent technology, which preserves the integrity and bioavailability of nutrients while removing casein and fat. This results in a higher potency and more effective product compared to traditional heat pasteurization methods. The benefits of Armour Colostrum include clearing blemishes, shinier, thicker hair, stabilized blood sugar levels, accelerated fat burning, improved fitness endurance, and decreased recovery time after intense exercise. Armour Colostrum is also glyphosate-free and adheres to strict quality control standards. In contrast to the natural approach of Armour Colostrum, it's important to note that technology and processing can sometimes detract from the effectiveness of natural products. Paleo Valley Beef Sticks, the second sponsor, offer a healthier alternative to traditional meat snacks by using 100% grass-fed and finished, organic, and naturally fermented beef. Paleo Valley sources only the highest quality ingredients and prioritizes human health, environmental restoration, and animal welfare. By choosing natural, high-quality products like Armour Colostrum and Paleo Valley Beef Sticks, we can return to a more natural and effective approach in our health and wellness choices.

    • Exploring nature and community with UnCruise's small boatsUnCruise's small ships offer unique travel experiences, taking passengers to remote locations for deep nature exploration and authentic community experiences, while ongoing research emphasizes the importance of accurately evaluating climate science.

      UnCruise offers a travel experience that exceeds expectations with small boats allowing for deep nature exploration without harming the environment. UnCruise's small ships take passengers to remote locations and provide authentic community experiences. The discussion also touched upon the complexity of climate science and the potential for urban warming biases in climate change models. A recent study published in the journal Climate suggested that global warming could be mostly an urban problem, and the paper "Detection and attribution of Northern Hemisphere Land Surface Warming from 1850 to 2018 in terms of human and natural factors, challenges of inadequate data" identified challenges in accurately determining the main drivers of Northern Hemisphere land surface warming due to inadequate data. These findings underscore the importance of ongoing research and critical evaluation of climate science. UnCruise's commitment to providing unique, sustainable travel experiences and the ongoing exploration of climate science demonstrate the value of curiosity, discovery, and the pursuit of knowledge.

    • Urban heat contributes to 40% of global warming since 1850Urban heat, caused by human activities, contributes significantly to global warming, accounting for nearly half of the warming since 1850.

      Urban heat, a factor long dismissed as trivial by mainstream climate scientists, contributes significantly to global warming. A recent study published in the journal Climate found that 40% of the warming since 1850 can be attributed to urban heat. Cities are hotter than rural areas due to human activities like transportation and building construction, which generate heat and trap it within urban areas. This misrepresentation of temperature data from urban areas as rural data can lead to an inaccurate understanding of global warming patterns. It's essential to recognize the significance of urban heat in climate change research.

    • Rural temperature data is noisier due to smaller dataset sizeRural temperature data is more prone to yearly fluctuations due to having a smaller dataset size. Urbanization bias and urban blending can also contribute to noise in temperature data.

      While rural and urban temperature data sets show similarities, the rural only data set is noticeably noisier due to having a smaller dataset size. This results in larger fluctuations from year to year. The larger the dataset, the lower the impact of noise. The authors of a study comparing urban and rural temperature data from 1850 to 2018 identified this as a key difference. They also found that the long-term linear warming trend in the rural and urban series was 62% higher than that in the rural only series, which they attributed to urbanization bias and urban blending. The rural only series also suggested a more nonlinear behavior, with temperatures alternating between multidecadal periods of cooling and warming since the mid-19th century. It's important to note that noise is not an actual phenomenon but rather the sum total of all influences that are not being studied. In the context of climate data, noise can obscure subtle patterns, making it essential to collect as much data as possible to reduce its impact. For example, in studying the change in symptoms associated with a virus across time, genetic differences between populations can show up as noise if not accounted for. Similarly, in the context of temperature data, urbanization can be a significant source of noise if not considered. Overall, understanding the impact of noise on data analysis is crucial in drawing accurate conclusions from any dataset.

    • Urbanization bias in climate change dataUrban temperature stations show more linear warming trends compared to rural areas due to urbanization bias, which could impact our understanding of global warming

      Urbanization bias in climate change data may lead to an obscured pattern of temperature changes, particularly when comparing rural and urban areas. A study published in the journal Climate in 2023 compared temperature trends using data from rural and urban areas, revealing that urban temperature stations show more linear warming trends compared to the noisier, less linear trends seen in rural areas. This bias could impact our understanding of global warming, as urbanization has been ongoing since the late 19th century, leading to warming trends in urban areas even if global temperatures remain stable. Previous conversations with scientists, such as Creon Levitt, have also suggested that urban temperature data may be subject to manipulation and adjustments that are not always justified by rigorous scientific logic. Ultimately, it's crucial to consider the potential impact of urbanization bias on climate change data and to be cautious when interpreting temperature trends based on urban data alone.

    • Challenging assumptions in climate scienceScientists must balance rigor with open-mindedness to address biases in climate data and models, such as urbanization bias and low solar variability estimates, to ensure accurate conclusions about climate change

      The scientific process involves making difficult decisions about what data to include or exclude, but being overly rigid in this regard can limit the scope of discovery and potentially validate false beliefs. For example, urbanization bias in temperature data can skew results towards showing warming trends, and ignoring this can lead to inaccurate conclusions about climate change. The importance of addressing such biases was highlighted in a recent paper, which also identified another issue: the use of a low solar variability estimate for estimating past solar activity, which may underplay the sun's role in global warming. Scientists must be rigorous in their approach, but also open-minded and willing to challenge assumptions. The findings from this paper underscore the need for careful consideration of potential biases in climate data and models.

    • Considering Solar Variability in Climate Change ResearchAssuming a low solar variability model can lead to an overestimation of human impact on climate change, emphasizing the importance of considering solar variability and urbanization bias in research.

      The debate around climate change and its causes is complex and multifaceted. While human activities and solar influences are often at the forefront of discussions, there are other contributing factors such as volcanism and orbital dynamics. The authors of a specific paper discussed in the conversation focused on the importance of considering solar variability and its impact on attributing climate change to human activities. They argued that assuming a low solar variability model can lead to an overestimation of the role of human activities in climate change. The IPCC, which is a leading authority on climate change, has acknowledged the importance of considering solar variability and urbanization bias in climate change research. Recent studies have also explored the role of solar activity in long-term warming trends, with some agreeing that it has been underestimated by the IPCC. Overall, the conversation highlights the importance of considering multiple factors when examining climate change and the need for ongoing research to better understand the complex interplay of these influences.

    • The sun's role in climate change is complex and not yet fully understoodThe sun's behavior, including sunspot cycles and coronal mass ejections, challenges assumptions of low solar variability and requires ongoing exploration to understand its impact on climate change

      The understanding of climate change and its causes is a complex issue with ongoing debates among scientists. The sun's role in climate change is not yet fully understood, and its variability challenges the assumption of low solar variability. The sun's complex behavior, including sunspot cycles and coronal mass ejections, suggests a dynamic system that we are still trying to comprehend. Complex systems, both on Earth and in space, add to the complexity of the issue. While the impact of human activities on climate change is clear, the role of natural factors and their interactions with human activities is still being studied. The CERES research group emphasizes the importance of maintaining an open and curious approach to scientific inquiry, rather than prioritizing consensus. The ongoing exploration of these complex systems and their interactions is essential for gaining a more accurate and complete understanding of climate change.

    • Scientists and the public's ability to understand complex scientific conceptsScientists should respect the public's intelligence and involve them in the scientific process to foster a better understanding of scientific findings, rather than underestimating their abilities and oversimplifying information.

      Independent research groups are crucial for objective evidence-based analysis free from external influence. Dr. Paul Offit, a scientist and vaccine evangelist, was criticized for his views on the spike protein and mRNA shots. Offit argued that scientists cannot communicate scientifically accurate information to the public, but this is not entirely true. Scientists use an entire language for referring to unpublished evidence and making inferences. However, Offit also revealed a common attitude among some scientists and faculty, underestimating the public's ability to understand complex scientific concepts and dismissing their intelligence. This attitude can be harmful and contributes to the oversimplification of scientific information. It is essential to respect the public's intelligence and involve them in the scientific process to foster a better understanding of scientific findings.

    • Communicating Science: Avoiding Simplification and OrthodoxyScience communication can oversimplify complex systems, creating a misleading orthodoxy that stifles questioning and critical thinking. Encouraging open dialogue about scientific uncertainty promotes critical thinking and accurate understanding.

      The way we communicate science to the public and to students can be overly simplified and misleading, creating an orthodoxy that stifles questioning and critical thinking. Science communicators, including textbooks, may present an artificially clean picture of complex systems, leading to a self-reinforcing belief in outdated or incomplete knowledge. This approach not only disserves the public but also hinders the development of critical thinking skills among students, perpetuating a cycle of hubris and potential disaster. It's crucial to encourage open dialogue about the uncertainty and complexities of scientific research, allowing for a more nuanced understanding of the world around us.

    • The disconnect between scientific research and public communicationScientific findings on complex issues like climate change and environmental degradation are not always clear-cut, and it's important to acknowledge their inherent uncertainty and complexity, encouraging public engagement rather than oversimplified summaries.

      There is a disconnect between scientific research and its communication to the public, particularly when it comes to complex issues like climate change and environmental degradation. The speaker argues that attempts to simplify complex scientific findings for public consumption often result in broad generalizations that lack precision and accuracy. They also criticize the paternalistic attitude of some science communicators who attempt to purify and simplify complex scientific findings for the public's supposed benefit, but in doing so, they may overlook important nuances and complexities. The speaker emphasizes the importance of acknowledging the inherent uncertainty and complexity of scientific research, particularly when it comes to issues like climate change and environmental degradation. They argue that it is crucial to recognize that scientific findings are not always clear-cut and that the public should be encouraged to engage with the scientific process and ask questions, rather than being presented with simplified and potentially inaccurate summaries.

    • Importance of honest and transparent communication about climate scienceHonest and transparent communication about climate science is crucial to engage the public and encourage action, avoiding certainty and fear tactics, scrutinizing corporate PR, and promoting nuanced narratives.

      The skepticism towards climate modeling and the perceived inaccuracies or biases within it can lead to a lack of public engagement and action on climate change. The use of certainty and fear tactics in presenting climate data can also alienate people and make them resistant to the message. The importance of honest and transparent communication about the complexities and nuances of climate science cannot be overstated. Additionally, the role of corporations, such as Apple, in using climate change as a PR tool should be scrutinized, as it may not always align with actual efforts to reduce carbon emissions. The need for more nuanced and complex narratives around climate change, rather than simplistic and didactic ones, cannot be overemphasized. Ultimately, it is crucial to approach climate change with a balanced and evidence-based perspective, avoiding both denial and alarmism.

    • Understanding the Complexity of Sustainability InitiativesCompanies need to consider the ecological and social contexts of their sustainability projects to ensure effectiveness and avoid unintended consequences.

      While companies like Apple may make efforts towards sustainability and carbon offsetting through initiatives like planting trees and restoring ecosystems, it's important to recognize the complexity and nuance behind such actions. Forests and savannas, for example, are not interchangeable terms, and not all places are suitable for tree planting. Additionally, reducing leather consumption might not be as straightforward as it seems, as it could lead to unintended consequences if not thought through carefully. It's crucial for companies to have a deep understanding of the ecological and social contexts of their sustainability projects to ensure their effectiveness and avoid potential misunderstandings or confusion.

    • Marketing promises vs. reality in sustainabilityCynicism towards sustainability efforts can harm companies, but it's important to acknowledge the complexities and nuances, avoiding jumping to conclusions based on marketing alone.

      The disconnect between marketing promises and reality can lead to cynicism and mistrust, particularly when it comes to environmental initiatives. Companies like Apple, with their strong brand and market power, can get away with such disconnects, but in an efficient market, trying to produce sustainably could put a company at a competitive disadvantage. However, it's crucial not to shame companies for trying to reduce pollution or increase efficiency, as these efforts can lead to significant savings for consumers. The current state of the ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) rubric, which is heavily politicized, doesn't help matters. The public's cynicism and skepticism towards sustainable business practices can punish companies for trying to do the right thing. It's essential to be aware of the complexities and nuances of these situations and avoid jumping to conclusions based on marketing campaigns alone. The speaker also mentions Volkswagen's past emissions scandal as an example of how companies can manipulate testing apparatuses to appear more environmentally friendly than they are, further adding to the complexity of the issue.

    • Manufacturers finding ways to game systemsIt's crucial to consider both benefits and costs of practices, focusing on reducing the most significant negative impact, while being aware of potential unintended consequences.

      Manufacturers sometimes find ways to game systems to meet certain standards, leading to potential inefficiencies or environmental impacts. In the case of vehicles, a lag was intentionally added to improve gas mileage, but it can be easily bypassed. This raises questions about the importance of the specific metric being measured, such as CO2 emissions, and the potential trade-offs involved. Another example given was double-pane windows, which increase energy efficiency but require replacement over time, leading to additional costs and environmental impact. It's essential to consider both the benefits and the costs of these practices to make informed decisions. Ultimately, it's about prioritizing the things with the most significant negative impact and focusing our efforts on reducing those. However, it's also important to consider what we're replacing or removing, as there may be unintended consequences. For instance, getting rid of plastics might not be as simple as it seems, as there may not be a clear alternative. Therefore, a comprehensive analysis of the entire industry and its impact is necessary to make informed decisions.

    • Many energy-efficient solutions may not be as sustainable or cost-effective as they seemSome energy-efficient products, like storm windows and carbon fiber bicycles, may require frequent replacement and have a significant environmental impact, making their long-term value questionable.

      Many solutions presented as energy-efficient may not be as sustainable or cost-effective as they seem. The use of storm windows as an example illustrates this point, as while they offer some insulation, they require frequent replacement and have a significant environmental impact due to the industrial process involved in their production. Furthermore, industries often create products that masquerade as solutions to one problem but are actually solutions to economic problems. The bicycle industry's shift towards carbon fiber bicycles is a prime example, as while they offer improved performance, they also require frequent replacement and have a higher environmental impact than well-built steel bicycles. These industries benefit financially from consumers' constant need to replace their products. The lack of transparency around the energy usage and environmental impact of these solutions prevents consumers from making informed decisions and returning value beyond what is currently measured.

    • Considering the potential consequences of geoengineeringGeoengineering solutions, like blocking sunlight or ocean fertilization, could have unintended and devastating consequences. Focusing on natural solutions, like increasing bio-ocean biomass, could be a more effective approach.

      While there is debate over anthropogenic climate change and the extent of its impact, it is crucial to consider the potential consequences of geoengineering as an solution. Geoengineering, such as putting particles in the atmosphere to block sunlight or fertilizing the oceans, could have unintended and devastating consequences. These ideas, while not necessarily first order wrong, lack the necessary understanding of all the interconnected effects. Instead, focusing on natural solutions, like increasing bio-ocean biomass, could be a more effective approach. The Arctic, with its trapped methane, is a high-stakes issue, and tampering with it could lead to a dangerous feedback loop of warming and ice loss. It's essential to approach climate change with caution and a deep understanding of the complex systems involved.

    • Milankovitch cycles impact Earth's climate through albedoMilankovitch cycles affect climate by changing Earth's albedo, causing more or less sunlight reflection and absorption, which impacts ice coverage and temperatures. Geoengineering solutions, like increasing artificial albedo, can help create a climate safety net.

      The Earth's climate is influenced by various cycles, including the precession of its axis, the obliquity of its orbit, and the shape of its orbit. These cycles, which have different lengths and are not connected, can affect the amount of sunlight the Earth receives and how much of it is absorbed or reflected. The key factor is the Earth's albedo, or the reflectivity of its surface. When there is more ice, more energy is reflected, leading to cooler temperatures. Milankovitch cycles alone do not cause significant climate change, but they can impact how much ice persists during summer, which in turn affects temperatures. If large amounts of methane are released from the Arctic, the consequences could be uncontrollable, making it essential to consider geoengineering solutions, such as increasing artificial albedo through measures like white roofs, to create a climate safety net. Sustainability is not enough, and reversibility is crucial to mitigate potential risks.

    • Manipulating Earth's albedo for climate change mitigationExploring methods to increase Earth's reflectivity, like painting surfaces white or using reflective materials, could help mitigate climate change, but it's essential to weigh the costs and consequences.

      We have the potential to modify Earth's albedo, or reflectivity, to help mitigate the effects of climate change. This could involve painting surfaces white or finding alternative, more reflective materials. However, this solution is not without costs or consequences, and it's important to consider the environmental impact and overall worth of such an endeavor. The debate continues on whether we are in a climate emergency and if this is the best or only solution. Regardless, understanding the role of albedo in climate change and our ability to manipulate it is crucial for our future.

    • Peel District School Board removes older books from libraries for relevance and inclusivityThe Peel District School Board in Canada is removing books published before 2008 from school libraries based on their perceived relevance and inclusivity, resulting in empty shelves and a loss of diverse literature for students, with controversy surrounding the removal of popular works like 'Harry Potter' and 'The Very Hungry Caterpillar'.

      The Peel District School Board in Canada is implementing an "equitable curation cycle" to remove books published before 2008 from school libraries based on their perceived relevance and inclusivity. This process involves librarians evaluating books using criteria such as factual accuracy, physical condition, and literary merit. The removal of older books has resulted in empty shelves and a loss of diverse literature for students. The ultimate goal is to promote anti-racism, cultural responsiveness, and inclusivity, but the process has been criticized for being overly simplistic and potentially removing valuable and esoteric works. The concern is that this approach may limit students' access to a wide range of perspectives and hinder their ability to explore less popular or less mainstream ideas. The removal of books like "Harry Potter" and "The Very Hungry Caterpillar" due to their age and perceived irrelevance has sparked controversy and raised questions about the role of libraries in fostering intellectual curiosity and critical thinking.

    • Discussing the Removal and Destruction of Books from LibrariesSpeakers argue against removing and destroying books due to their condition or content, acknowledging the potential harm of empty shelves but prioritizing diverse literature access.

      The discussion revolves around the decision to remove and destroy certain books from libraries due to their condition or content being considered a health hazard or culturally insensitive. The speakers argue that these books should not be donated or kept due to their potential negative impact on learners. However, they also acknowledge that not all books should be destroyed, and there is a trade-off between the harm caused by empty shelves and the potential harm caused by the books themselves. Some argue that empty shelves can be psychologically damaging, while others prioritize the availability of books over the condition of the shelves. Ultimately, the speakers express their intention to fight against this decision and preserve access to a diverse range of literature.

    • Discussing the Opioid Crisis and the Role of NarcanNarcan can save lives in an opioid overdose, but its availability over the counter raises questions about industry involvement and potential risks. The Natural Selection community encourages staying informed and joining discussions on Locals.

      The opioid crisis continues to be a significant issue, and the recent decision by the FDA to make Narcan, an opioid overdose nasal spray, available over the counter, while well-intended, raises questions about the pharmaceutical industry's role in creating and solving the problem. During a recent episode of Natural Selection, this topic was discussed, and it was noted that while Narcan can save lives, it's not a perfect solution, and there are potential risks associated with its use. Additionally, the episode touched on the importance of carrying Narcan in a perfect world, but the recommended reading at the bottom of an Oregon Health Authority blog post also warned against taking Ivermectin without a prescription, highlighting the complexities and potential dangers of these substances. The Natural Selection community encourages everyone to join them on Locals for more discussions, Q&As, and merchandise at darkhorsestore.org. Sponsors for the episode included Armrah, Palia Valley, and UnCruise. Remember, be good to those you love, eat well, and get outside. Stay informed and stay well.

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    Why President Fico was a special problem for the powers that be: https://twitter.com/april_harding/status/1790817554493010143

    Ben Davidson on the Sun and on DarkHorse: https://rumble.com/v4ucpc6-apocalypse-when-ben-davidson-on-darkhorse-live.html

    Ozempic—don’t be fooled: https://twitter.com/HeatherEHeying/status/1738959829321036212

    Chao et al 2023. Semaglutide for the treatment of obesity. Trends in cardiovascular medicine, 33(3): 159-166.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9209591/pdf/nihms-1768574.pdf

    The Times of London: Weight loss jab cuts heart disease deaths by 20%: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/uk-weight-loss-jabs-prescription-drugs-ozempic-7dbsvkblg

    31st European Conference on Obesity: https://eco2024.org

    Abstracts from Conference: https://karger.com/ofa/issue/17/Suppl.%201

    Biden speaks: https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1790713878248038478

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    Apocalypse When? Ben Davidson on DarkHorse

    Apocalypse When? Ben Davidson on DarkHorse

    Live at 12:30 PT, May 10th. Bret and Ben discuss potential impacts of the sun on humanity in the coming days.

    Find Ben Davidson on X: @SunWeatherMan (https://twitter.com/SunWeatherMan)

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    Anecdote in Science: The 224th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    Anecdote in Science: The 224th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    In this 224th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we talk about the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.

    In this episode, we discuss animal behavior: the implications of an orangutan using a medicinal plant to treat a wound, and the one-off videos that we’ve all seen—of cats preventing toddlers from falling, of a beluga whale retrieving a woman’s phone. What does this say about the minds of these other organisms, and about us? Also: dog domestication, from wolves, but not from foxes. And: the New York Times publishes more insipid garbage about vaccine injury, Bret returns to the question of what safety means, and The Nation turns its back on its muckraking roots.

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Laumer et al 2024. Active self-treatment of a facial wound with a biologically active plant by a male Sumatran orangutan. Scientific Reports, 14(1), p.8932. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-58988-7

    County Highway: https://www.countyhighway.com

    Thousands Believe Covid Vaccines Harmed Them. Is Anyone Listening? https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/03/health/covid-vaccines-side-effects.html

    Chris Martenson on the NYT: https://twitter.com/chrismartenson/status/1787602191114526836

    Benn et al 2023. Randomized clinical trials of COVID-19 vaccines: Do adenovirus-vector vaccines have beneficial non-specific effects?. Iscience, 26(5): https://portal.findresearcher.sdu.dk/en/publications/randomized-clinical-trials-of-covid-19-vaccines-do-adenovirus-vec

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    Never Alone: The 223rd Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    Never Alone: The 223rd Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    In this 223rd in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we talk about the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.

    In this episode, we discuss science and religion, materialism and other ways of understanding our world. Can analysis and quantification explain everything? Can narrative, intuition, and creativity? All are or should be part of the scientific process; science is incomplete with only one mode. We also discuss models, how they fail, how difficult they are to assess, and what one recent climate model has to say about the role of air pollution in Earth’s temperature. Enlightenment values require that we use our freedom to inquire about all things that we are curious about. Also: happy Beltane!

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Third Man Syndrome and Shackleton: https://twitter.com/brianroemmele/status/1785827941718614291

    Clearer skies may be accelerating global warming: https://www.science.org/content/article/clearer-skies-may-be-accelerating-global-warming
     
    Hodnebrog et al 2024. Recent reductions in aerosol emissions have increased Earth’s energy imbalance. Communications Earth & Environment, 5(1):166: https://www.nature.com/articles/s43247-024-01324-8

    Nature editorial: What happens when climate change and the mental-health crisis collide? https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-00993-x

    Animation about mental health and climate change: https://www.imperial.ac.uk/grantham/publications/all-publications/the-impact-of-climate-change-on-mental-health-and-emotional-wellbeing-current-evidence-and-implications-for-policy-and-practice.php

    Growing up is hard to do (do not pay others to do your thinking for you): https://naturalselections.substack.com/p/growing-up-is-hard-to-do

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    We're Beating the WHO – With Dr. Kat Lindley

    We're Beating the WHO – With Dr. Kat Lindley

    Dr. Kat Lindley is the President of the Global Health Project. Bret Talks to her about the state of the World Health Organization Pandemic Treaty.

    Find Dr. Lindley on X: @KLVeritas (https://twitter.com/KLVeritas)

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    Why Darwin was Right: The 222nd Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    Why Darwin was Right: The 222nd Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    In this 222nd in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we talk about the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.

    In this episode, we discuss evolution, and how we know that it is true. We discuss the different kinds of beliefs that people have—beliefs that attempt to reconcile with reality, vs beliefs that reconcile with social standing and comfort. If your beliefs put you on the outs with your friends, do you change your beliefs, or your friends? Are you willing to give up the cocktail party for reality? We also discuss research published in 2000 and funded by Fauci’s NIAID, which demonstrated that it was possible to make chimeric coronaviruses, swapping the spike protein from one to a different species entirely. Finally: sex-biased gene expression, in which genes are expressed differently in the two sexes, in anatomical systems as varied as brain, kidneys, and liver.
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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Kennedy 2023. The Wuhan Cover-Up and the Terrifying Bio-Weapons Arms Race: https://www.skyhorsepublishing.com/9781510773981/the-wuhan-cover-up/

    Kuo et al 2000. Retargeting of coronavirus by substitution of the spike glycoprotein ectodomain: crossing the host cell species barrier. Journal of virology, 74(3):1393-1406: https://journals.asm.org/doi/full/10.1128/jvi.74.3.1393-1406.2000

    Rodríguez-Montes et al 2023. Sex-biased gene expression across mammalian organ development and evolution. Science 382(6670), p.eadf1046: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adf1046

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    “We are as gods and might as well get good at it,” Stewart Brand famously wrote in “The Whole Earth Catalogue.” Human beings act upon nature at fantastic scale, altering whole ecosystems, terraforming the world to our purposes, breeding new species into existence and driving countless more into extinction. The power we wield is awesome. But Brand was overly optimistic. We did not get good at it. We are terrible at it, and the consequences surround us.

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    Whole Earth Catalogue

    Field Notes from a Catastrophe by Elizabeth Kolbert

    The Sixth Extinction by Elizabeth Kolbert

    The Ministry of the Future by Kim Stanley Robinson

    Extraterrestrial: The First Sign of Intelligent Life Beyond Earth by Avi Loeb

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