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    #51: Facebook, Twitter, & Evolving Door Politics (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream)

    en-usOctober 24, 2020

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    • Facebook's Arbitrary Account Disabling and Lack of TransparencyFacebook, as a private corporation, can arbitrarily disable accounts without explanation, raising concerns about democratic values and user rights.

      Social media platforms, like Facebook, have become essential components of modern communication and democracy, yet they operate as private corporations with the power to arbitrarily disable accounts without explanation or appeal. This was the experience of the speaker, who was shocked to find her Facebook account permanently disabled without any clear reason. The lack of transparency and accountability from these platforms raises concerns about their role in shaping public discourse and the potential for political manipulation. The founders of our democracy could not have anticipated the rise of social media and its impact on governance, leaving us to grapple with these issues in the present day. The private nature of these corporations, as some argue, does not absolve them from their responsibilities to uphold democratic values and protect the rights of their users. The consequences of this bottlenecking of democratic discourse could be disastrous.

    • Social media's ambiguous role as publisher and private corporation leaves individuals powerlessSocial media platforms act as publishers when convenient, but deny responsibility when it harms individuals, leaving them without clear appeal processes or protection from biased decisions.

      The current state of social media platforms, which function as both publishers and private corporations, leaves individuals unprotected and subjected to arbitrary decisions made by these companies. The founders' intent behind the First Amendment was to protect the free exchange of ideas, but they couldn't foresee the role of social media in the 21st century. The platforms' monopolistic nature and ambiguous community standards allow them to act as publishers when it benefits them, while denying responsibility when it doesn't. This leaves individuals without a clear appeal process or protection from biased decisions. The case of someone being banned from Facebook without explanation, despite having done nothing wrong, illustrates this issue. The platforms' responses, such as "already reviewed it," further obscure the decision-making process and leave individuals powerless. This situation is Orwellian and raises concerns about the politically motivated core within these companies and their ability to silence voices.

    • Social media platforms flagging accounts as imposters leading to unjust suspensionsSuspensions of social media accounts, even with large followings and diverse geographic locations, can occur due to perceived imposter behavior. However, these suspensions may be unjust and potentially politically motivated, highlighting the need for greater transparency and accountability in content moderation practices.

      The automated flagging of accounts as imposters by social media platforms, even long-standing accounts with coherent followings, can lead to unjust suspensions. In this case, the speaker's account was flagged by Facebook, despite having a large number of friends and a geographically diverse following. The account did not exhibit imposter behavior, leading the account holder to suspect a political motivation behind the suspension. The person who responded to the account holder's inquiry, Liz Shepherd, has a connection to top-level Democrats, raising the possibility that the account was suspended due to controversial political views. The account holder also shared their experience with Twitter and its verification process, which they felt was arbitrary and lacked transparency. Overall, the account holder's experience highlights the need for greater transparency and accountability in social media platforms' content moderation practices.

    • Government officials and tech industry create a new revolving doorGovernment officials move to tech companies to influence and peddle, raising concerns about free speech and manipulation of public discourse.

      The relationship between government officials and employees of tech companies like Twitter and Facebook forms a new kind of revolving door, where partisan government officials move to industry to influence and peddle on behalf of their party, rather than the traditional model of industry influencing government. This dynamic raises concerns about the impact on free speech and the manipulation of public discourse, as seen in Twitter's handling of the Hunter Biden story. The Democratic National Committee, which is supposed to represent the interests of the party and its voters, instead functions as an influence peddling operation, and it must maintain power by controlling the conversation in private platforms where First Amendment protections do not apply. This situation is deeply troubling and undermines the democratic process.

    • Social media regulation: Balancing control and free flow of informationCorporations' power to control info and influence public discourse raises concerns. Striking balance between protecting individuals and preserving free flow of info online is crucial.

      The current state of social media regulation raises concerns about corporations wielding too much power to control information and influence public discourse, acting in the interests of political parties rather than the public. The discussion touched upon the Unity 2020 situation, where censorship and manipulation of online communication have come under scrutiny. The issue is not just about government overreach, but also the complex relationship between private corporations and public access to the internet. The historical precedent of government-funded research leading to private monopolies adds to the complexity. Ultimately, it's essential to strike a balance between protecting individuals from harm and preserving the free flow of information online.

    • The analogy between speech and harmful smellsWhile speech is not inherently harmful, the line between speech and violence is becoming blurred, requiring open discussions to protect constitutional protections and discern truth from falsehoods.

      While Americans have historically protected speech based on the belief that speech itself is not inherently harmful, there is a growing concern that speech is being equated with violence and harm. This analogy with bad smells in our ancestral environment is not perfect, as modernity has introduced new types of harmful smells, and speech itself is not harmful but rather a warning sign of potential danger. The challenge lies in determining if anything about speech has changed and what that means for regulatory environments. If speech remains distinct from violence, then protecting it is crucial, especially in places where there is no alternative. However, the influence of corrupt entities and the derangement of memory due to the internet make it difficult to discern what is true and what is not. Ultimately, it is essential to have open discussions about these issues to ensure that constitutional protections remain effective.

    • The influence of external sources on our thinking and learningSocial media platforms and other external sources can overload us with information, hindering our ability to think deeply and make meaningful connections. We need both the freedom to explore new ideas and the ability to focus and reflect on them to truly learn.

      The constant influx of information from social media platforms and other external sources can hinder our ability to think deeply and make meaningful connections between ideas. This is because we are overloaded with information and lack the mental space to analyze and reflect on it. The use of tools like a neuralizer, as mentioned in the Men in Black example, can be seen as a metaphor for how these platforms edit our memories and control the information we consume. To truly think and learn, we need both the freedom to explore new ideas and the ability to focus and reflect on them. Unfortunately, we are losing both of these as external forces continue to manipulate and control the information we consume. Ultimately, this influence peddling is a threat to our democracy and requires urgent attention and action. We must demand transparency and accountability from social media platforms and work to create a system where we can think freely and critically.

    • Understanding Mass Movements: Frustration and FanaticismFrustration can ignite mass movements through fanaticism and self-sacrifice, as explored in Eric Hoffer's 'The True Believer'.

      That mass movements, whether religious, social, or nationalist, share common characteristics and can be fueled by the frustration of individuals. Eric Hoffer's book "The True Believer" explores these ideas, written in 1951 and becoming a bestseller when President Eisenhower cited it during a televised press conference. Hoffer argues that frustration itself can generate the fanaticism, enthusiasm, and self-sacrifice seen in mass movements. His hypothesis is that having a group of frustrated individuals is sufficient to ignite these movements. The book delves into the nature of the true believer, the man of fanatical faith, and the techniques of conversion. It's a valuable read for understanding the dynamics of mass movements and the role of frustration in shaping them.

    • The search for unifying agents in times of frustration leads to mass movementsUnderstanding the root causes of frustration and working towards a bipartisan government can prevent destructive mass movements.

      Frustration can lead to the formation of mass movements, as seen in the 2016 US election with the rise of Trump and the subsequent anti-Trump resistance. However, it's important to note that what appeared to be a mass movement towards fascism on the right was actually a search for an excuse by the far left to create their own mass movement. The root cause of frustration for many people is a corrupt and dysfunctional government that leaves them feeling powerless and excluded. This frustration makes them susceptible to being unified by unifying agents like hatred and fearmongering. Instead of focusing on these divisive tactics, it's crucial to address the underlying issues and work towards a bipartisan government that serves the needs of all people, rather than just those who can buy access. By understanding this dynamic, we can begin to address the root causes of frustration and prevent the formation of destructive mass movements.

    • Mass movements need a tangible enemy to unite and gain strengthMass movements thrive on having a clear enemy, real or imagined, to unite and gain strength. This behavior is not wasteful but a response to hazards that require more defensive measures.

      Mass movements thrive on having a tangible enemy, or a "devil," to rally against. This enemy can be real or imagined, but its presence is essential for the movement's strength and unity. Hitler's Nazi regime, for instance, rose to power with the Jews as their primary enemy. Similarly, the Soviet Union identified the democratic West, particularly America, as their enemy after World War II. The absence of a clear enemy after the end of the war was a significant shortcoming for Chinese leader Shanghai Shek. The behavior of hive animals like bees and wasps also illustrates this concept. These animals mark and attack any perceived threat to their hive, turning the marked individual into a "devil" that must be dealt with. This behavior is not wasteful but rather a response to hazards that require more defensive measures. In the human context, any immutable demographic or characteristic can become the enemy in a mass movement, leading to division and conflict. This understanding of mass movements can help us navigate the complexities of modern society and the various "devils" that emerge in different contexts.

    • Susceptibility to hate increases vulnerability to mass movementsBeing susceptible to hate can make individuals more vulnerable to being manipulated by mass movements, which often have agendas that aren't in the best interest of the individuals themselves. To prevent this, fostering understanding and empathy towards others may provide an immune response.

      Being susceptible to hate can make individuals more vulnerable to being manipulated by mass movements, which often have agendas that aren't in the best interest of the individuals themselves. Eric Hoffer, in his book "The True Believer," identifies certain groups of people as being most likely to be drawn to mass movements, including the poor, misfits, minorities, adolescent youth, the ambitious, and the bored. These groups can be found on both sides of competing mass movements, leading to conflict and competition between them. Hoffer argues that all mass movements are interchangeable, and one's allegiance to a particular movement is not based on its ideology, but rather on the sense of belonging it offers. Therefore, not being susceptible to hate and instead fostering understanding and empathy towards others may provide an immune response to prevent oneself from being captivated by harmful mass movements.

    • Rejecting the present and meritocracy can destabilize societyTo prevent societal instability, ensure a fair meritocracy by providing necessary skills and resources to all

      Frustration and the longing for a utopian future can lead people to reject the present and the meritocratic system, which can ultimately destabilize society. This rejection often stems from the feeling that the tools for success have been withheld or rendered ineffective for many. To prevent this, it's essential to arm everyone with the necessary skills and resources to compete in a meritocracy, ensuring a fair playing field. The frustration people feel is legitimate, but it's crucial to channel it into positive actions rather than joining ideologies that foster helplessness and rage. The discussion also highlights the importance of recognizing that those who have succeeded in a meritocracy have had an unfair advantage and that the solution lies in making the system more accessible to all.

    • The pursuit of escape from responsibility leads to instabilityDuring crises, people may abandon individual freedoms for relief from decision-making, leading to instability and conflict.

      Frustration and a lack of self-sufficiency can lead people to seek escape from responsibility and follow a supreme leader, creating chaos and instability. This phenomenon, as discussed in the context of recent events in Portland and other cities, is exacerbated by crises like the COVID-19 pandemic, which leaves people feeling vulnerable and uncertain. People in such situations may be willing to abandon their individual freedoms in exchange for relief from the burdens of decision-making and responsibility. However, this submission to a leader or mass movement often results in a false sense of equality and equality, rather than true self-sufficiency or improvement. This dynamic can create a "perfect storm" of instability and conflict. It's important for individuals and societies to recognize the dangers of this dynamic and work towards fostering self-sufficiency, critical thinking, and personal responsibility.

    • The Role of the State and CreativityThe state sets boundaries for community safety, creativity fosters self-confidence and reduces susceptibility to external influences, and the decline of handcrafts may contribute to frustration and susceptibility to mass movements.

      The role of the state, much like that of a parent, is to set clear boundaries and enforce them, ensuring the safety and well-being of the larger community. Creativity, particularly in areas like science, involves both analysis and deep thinking, making creatives less susceptible to mass movements and ideologies. Additionally, poverty, when coupled with creativity, can lead to a sense of self-confidence and fulfillment, reducing frustration and susceptibility to external influences. The decline of handcrafts and manual labor in modern times may contribute to the rise of frustration and susceptibility to mass movements.

    • The Power of Creative WorkCreative work brings fulfillment and resistance to mass movements, while critical thinking inoculates against manipulation.

      Creativity comes in various forms, but the most fulfilling kind is the one that brings something new into existence. This kind of creativity cannot leave you bored because you're actively involved in the process of creation. Erich Fromm, in his book "Art and Mass Culture," discusses the concept of "creative men of words" and their attachment to the present. He argues that those who cannot find fulfillment in creative work are more likely to become fanatics or despots. On the other hand, individuals who have a creative outlet, especially those with a physical component, are less likely to be manipulated by ideologies. However, individual resistance is not enough to counteract the power of mass movements. To inoculate people against the allure of mass movements, it's crucial to encourage them to pause and think critically about their positions and values, rather than blindly following received authority.

    • Mass movements are not a stable solution for a democratic societyLeaders like Lincoln and Gandhi ended mass movements by addressing root causes and providing necessary tools, but addressing motivational problems at scale remains a challenge.

      While mass movements can displace one another, they are not a stable solution for a democratic society. The personality of rare leaders, such as Lincoln and Gandhi, plays a crucial role in determining the nature and duration of a mass movement. These leaders try to curb the evil inherent in a mass movement and put an end to it once its objective is realized. They possess self-confidence and faith in humanity, and do not use the slime of frustrated souls as mortar in building a new world. However, dealing with the vast number of people who have been hobbled by a system that didn't equip them with the necessary tools to be self-sufficient is a complex issue. Updating and introducing new tools can help, but it might not be enough to address the motivational problem for the vast majority of people. The challenge lies in finding a way to do it at scale and improving people's lives in a sustainable and effective manner. This discussion also touches upon the limitations of Universal Basic Income (UBI) as a solution to wealth inequality and the motivational problem it doesn't address for the vast majority of people. The conversation highlights the importance of addressing the root causes of people's frustration and providing them with the tools they need to cultivate their own capacities and well-being.

    • Building antifragile communities for future challengesEmphasize long-term perspective, engage in meaningful activities, and broaden understanding through insightful perspectives to contribute to positive change

      Addressing the current social issues requires a long-term perspective and efforts to heal and connect, rather than just reacting with destruction and anger. The speaker emphasizes the importance of building antifragile communities that can withstand future ideologies and challenges. While there's a sense of urgency to counteract the growing authoritarian left, it may take a generation to make significant progress. The speaker encourages engagement in meaningful activities, such as asking questions during Q&A sessions or joining Discord servers, to contribute to positive change. Listening to insightful perspectives from outsiders, like Douglas Murray's podcast reporting from Portland, can also broaden understanding and inspire productive discussions.

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