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    Bret and Heather 29th DarkHorse Podcast Livestream: Unity Vs. Division - Only One Way Forward

    en-usJuly 13, 2020

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    • Groundswell of Americans Supporting Unity 2020Americans are eager to get involved in the Unity 2020 movement, but more people are needed to sign up and get engaged through articlesofunity.org or @articlesofunity. The movement faces opposition suggesting waiting until after 2024, but the team urges against it to prevent opponents from organizing.

      The Unity 2020 movement is gaining momentum with a visible groundswell of American citizens eager to get involved. However, there's a need for more people to sign up and get engaged through the website articlesofunity.org or by following the Twitter account @articlesofunity. The movement is facing pushback from some quarters, with some suggesting waiting until after the 2024 election. But the speakers warn that this would give opponents more time to organize and undermine the plan. The speakers also shared that they are being filmed by CBS and may discuss cancel culture and Unity 2020 on the network. Additionally, one of the team members, Zach, is currently away but monitoring the situation remotely. The team is looking for volunteers and encourages people to find and bring in two others to get involved.

    • The duopoly's role in perpetuating political corruptionThe duopoly's concentration of power and denial of access to policy mechanisms creates a political famine, while the fear of electing a greater evil keeps people from addressing the root cause of the problem: the duopoly itself.

      The corruption within the political system and the duopoly's role in perpetuating it is a long-standing issue that requires action beyond the normal channels. The fear of electing a greater evil and the perceived lack of a viable alternative have been used as reasons not to challenge the status quo. However, the speaker argues that the current situation is critical and demands immediate action, as the problem will only worsen over time. The speaker also introduces the idea that many people view Donald Trump as a pressing issue, like a rock in their shoe, but that this issue coexists with a larger problem, a political famine caused by the duopoly's concentration of power and denial of access to policy mechanisms. The urgency to address the rock in the shoe should be balanced with the recognition of the larger, more pervasive issue of the political famine.

    • Addressing immediate issues vs solving root causes during crisesThe duopoly may not prioritize solving root causes of problems due to allegiance to powerful entities, but it's crucial for collective action to evict those in power and deliver well-being to the wider population.

      Addressing immediate issues, such as a metaphorical rock in your shoe, is crucial even during larger crises, like a famine. However, the duopoly, or the two major political parties, may not prioritize solving the root causes of these problems due to their allegiance to powerful entities. The Declaration of Interdependence, written in 2011, highlights this issue and calls for action. The fact that this document remains relevant today shows that some have been aware of this problem for a long time. It's time for collective action to evict those in power and deliver well-being to the wider population. The duopoly's false solutions and symbolism should not distract us from the urgent need for real change.

    • Elites trying to redefine 'pie' of well-being while keeping it for themselvesElites' rent-seeking behavior creates a false sense of abundance, leaving many struggling and disillusioned with the Democratic Party

      The current political and economic climate has left many people feeling marginalized and struggling, leading to frustration and calls for change. However, some elites have observed this and are trying to redefine the "pie" of well-being, creating a false sense of abundance while keeping most of it for themselves. This is a deeply unpatriotic move that pits different groups against each other instead of addressing the root causes of inequality. The Democratic Party, which has historically served the interests of working people, is now facing the challenge of delivering symbolism instead of actual policy, leaving many feeling disillusioned. The analogy of "let them eat cake" is no longer applicable as there is no cake for the majority, and the elites' rent-seeking behavior is limiting the actual abundance of resources for all Americans.

    • Dominated by rent-seeking elites, DNC pits groups against each otherRent-seeking elites exploit opportunities for personal gain, DNC contributes to cycle, individuals can demand change, divisive practices fuel corrupt system

      The current political landscape is dominated by rent-seeking elites who continue to exploit opportunities for personal gain, often through divisive and discriminatory practices. The DNC, as a powerful institution, has contributed to this cycle by pitting different groups against each other, allowing the elites to maintain their power. This situation is harmful and perpetuates a corrupt system. It's essential for individuals to recognize this dynamic and demand change. The Seattle training session example, which equates enlightenment values with racial superiority, is just one instance of the divisive and discriminatory practices that fuel this cycle. As aware and informed citizens, we have the power to demand adults at the helm and push for structural change. Let's not let the elites continue to divide us and profit off our differences. Instead, let's come together and work towards a more equitable and just society.

    • Democratize powerful tools for a more equal learning environmentDemocratizing tools of power like science leads to a more equal and effective learning environment, allowing everyone to develop the ability to wield them for positive change.

      The values and tools that give people power should be democratized instead of being monopolized. This includes things like science. If we declare science, or any other powerful tool, as null and void, those who hold onto it will have an advantage. However, if we democratize these tools and make them accessible to everyone, we can create a more equal and effective learning environment. The capacity to use these tools is built into us, and with the right mental environment and investment, everyone can develop the ability to wield them. This is not a new concept, but it's a crucial one that is often overlooked. The tools of power, whether they are scientific inquiry or other forms of knowledge, have the potential to change the world for the better. Let's not pretend that the world is something it's not and instead work towards democratizing these tools for the benefit of all.

    • Problematic arguments in 'White Fragility'The book oversimplifies complex issues, labels critics as racist, and relies on flawed scholarship.

      The book "White Fragility" by Robin DiAngelo contains problematic arguments that conflate systemic issues with individual ones, reduce complex concepts to oversimplified ideas, and label those who disagree as racist. The author's assertions, such as the claim that viewing race as less defining than other factors makes one racist, are based on flawed scholarship and cherry-picked data. Moreover, the book's rhetoric creates a dilemma: one cannot win against its accusations, no matter whether one remains silent or speaks out. The book's title itself is a clever trap, designed to label those who disagree as "anti-anti-racist" and thus, racist. Ultimately, the book's divisive and oversimplified approach to complex social issues does more harm than good.

    • Misunderstanding Race Relations in 'White Fragility'DiAngelo's book creates a problematic perspective on race, where denying the label of 'racist' becomes proof of it. It's crucial to approach discussions with a critical and nuanced perspective.

      Robin DiAngelo's book "White Fragility" presents a problematic and misleading perspective on race relations, projecting her personal experiences onto society as a whole. The book's central argument, that those who defend themselves against accusations of racism are proving their own white fragility, creates a Kafkaesque trap where denial of the label becomes proof of the label. However, it's important to remember that DiAngelo's understanding of others' minds is limited to her own, and her portrayal of society may not accurately reflect reality. This misunderstanding could potentially grind civilization to a halt. A possible solution to this dilemma was suggested by a friend on Twitter, who recommended reading "1984" in response to being forced to read "White Fragility" by an employer. Ultimately, it's crucial to approach such discussions with a critical and nuanced perspective, recognizing the limitations of individual perspectives and the importance of open dialogue in understanding complex issues.

    • Late 1990s and early 2000s: Shaping Societal DebatesDuring the late 1990s and early 2000s, various societal issues such as financial collapses, civil liberties erosions, and policing methods sparked debates, reminding us of the importance of staying informed and engaged in addressing challenges.

      Throughout history, there have been significant events and societal shifts that have shaped the way we think and act. During the late 1990s and early 2000s, various issues such as financial collapses, civil liberties erosions, and policing methods came to the forefront, influencing the way people viewed the world and sparking debates. These discussions were not new, as they had been ongoing since college for many individuals. The exchange between modern and postmodern perspectives in the context of human evolution serves as a reminder of the long-standing nature of these debates. Despite being accused of being part of the problem, those involved had been observing and critiquing societal issues for decades. The resurgence of these discussions in the 2010s highlights the importance of staying informed and engaged in addressing the challenges of our time.

    • Science and Art as a Response to PostmodernismScience and art, when used together, can help us navigate the complexities of understanding the world and the biases that may influence our perceptions, providing a potent response to the challenges posed by postmodernism.

      The ongoing debate between postmodernism and the importance of objective truth can be addressed through the power of science and art. Postmodernism acknowledges the inherent bias in human perception, but argues that it cannot be completely eliminated. The solution, according to the speaker, is to lean on the power of science to uncover objective truths, while also recognizing the value of art in allowing us to see the world through different perspectives. The speaker argues that science and art, when used together, can serve as a potent response to the challenges posed by postmodernism. This interdisciplinary approach can help us navigate the complexities of understanding the world and the biases that may influence our perceptions. Ultimately, the speaker believes that the ongoing dialogue between these two fields can lead to a deeper understanding of truth and the role of perception in shaping our knowledge.

    • Science and Art Reveal New PerspectivesScience and Art offer unique insights into the world, broadening our horizons and revealing new perspectives through discoveries, counterintuitive findings, and challenging categories and boundaries.

      Science and art, though different, have the power to reveal new perspectives about the world. While scientific papers may not be widely read, the discoveries and counterintuitive findings they uncover can captivate and inspire. Similarly, art, whether it's a sculpture or a painting, can provide insights into different minds and reveal something about the way the world works. The intersection of the continuous and the discrete, as seen in the retina and pixels, is an example of this duality. Art and science fiction can challenge our current categories and boundaries, allowing us to explore alternative ways of understanding the world. Ultimately, both science and art serve to broaden our horizons and help us see what we might have missed.

    • The need for a new scientific foundationWe might need to rebuild our understanding of the world from the ground up, questioning outdated categories and seeking a new scientific foundation

      Our current understanding of the world and its fundamentals might not be complete, and we may need to go back to the basics and rebuild our knowledge from the ground up. This was highlighted in a discussion about the limitations of using outdated categories and the need for a new scientific foundation. The concept was further illustrated through a reference to the book "Flatland" by Edwin Abbott, which explores the idea of living in a universe with things beyond our comprehension. The book, although insightful, is also objectively sexist, but its satirical nature is debated. Regardless, the idea of encountering limitations in understanding and the importance of questioning our knowledge and rebuilding from the basics remains a valuable lesson.

    • Canceling historical works and figures is not the answerWe should not deprive ourselves of valuable knowledge and understanding by canceling historical works and figures, even if they contain controversial elements. Instead, we should approach them with context and understanding.

      We should not cancel historical figures or works of art based on the flawed perspectives of their creators or the controversial elements present in them. These works often contain valuable lessons and insights that can help us understand the past and the present. For instance, books like "Stranger in a Strange Land" by Robert Heinlein, despite having problematic portrayals of women, can still teach us important things. Similarly, works like Mark Twain's novels, which include offensive language, offer valuable insights into history, particularly regarding race in America. Canceling such works would deprive us of valuable knowledge and understanding. Additionally, songs like Bob Dylan's "Hurricane," which contain offensive language but convey powerful messages about social injustice, should not be censored. Instead, we should approach these works with context and understanding, recognizing the historical and cultural context in which they were created.

    • Using powerful language in art and storytellingPowerful language, including the 'n-word', can shed light on historical and social issues but discretion is needed to ensure empathy and satire aren't lost.

      The use of powerful and provocative language, including the "n-word," in art and storytelling can be essential for shedding light on historical and social issues. Dylan's song "Hurricane" served as a catalyst for the release of Rubin Carter, highlighting the complexities of racism and the criminal justice system. The poem's use of the "n-word" was intentional and necessary for its impact. However, discretion is needed when using such language, and it's crucial to distinguish between legitimate and illegitimate uses. The loss of empathy and satire in our society can hinder our ability to engage in meaningful discussions and progress. Ultimately, the power of language and art lies in their ability to challenge, provoke, and inspire.

    • Engaging with Content Beyond Live StreamsCreators offer multiple ways for viewers to engage with their content, including clipped versions, shorter clips, exclusive Q&A sessions, and interactive Discord servers.

      The creators of this content are providing multiple ways for viewers to engage with their content beyond the live streams. They have created an Eclipse channel for clipped versions of episodes, a Dark Horse Clips YouTube channel for shorter clip requests, and a Patreon membership with access to exclusive Q&A sessions in a smaller, more interactive group setting. Additionally, they have created a Discord server for patrons at the $5 level and above. These efforts aim to cater to viewers who prefer shorter content or more interactive experiences. The creators encourage viewers to check out these platforms for a more personalized engagement with their content.

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    Kennedy 2023. The Wuhan Cover-Up and the Terrifying Bio-Weapons Arms Race: https://www.skyhorsepublishing.com/9781510773981/the-wuhan-cover-up/

    Kuo et al 2000. Retargeting of coronavirus by substitution of the spike glycoprotein ectodomain: crossing the host cell species barrier. Journal of virology, 74(3):1393-1406: https://journals.asm.org/doi/full/10.1128/jvi.74.3.1393-1406.2000

    Rodríguez-Montes et al 2023. Sex-biased gene expression across mammalian organ development and evolution. Science 382(6670), p.eadf1046: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adf1046

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