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    • A mental health crisis among young people has been on the rise since 2012The use of smartphones and social media is a leading contributor to depression, suicide rates, and feelings of sadness and hopelessness among teens, requiring urgent interventions

      We're experiencing a mental health crisis among young people, and this trend was on the rise long before the COVID-19 pandemic. According to research psychologist Jean Twenge, who has been studying this issue for years, there has been a significant increase in clinical depression, suicide rates, and feelings of sadness and hopelessness among teens. In her latest book, "Generations," she argues that the use of smartphones and social media is a leading contributor to these issues. Data from national surveys shows that around 2012, more and more teens began reporting feelings of loneliness, worthlessness, and lack of enjoyment in life, which are classic symptoms of depression. Additionally, clinical level depression, emergency room admissions for self-harm, and suicide attempts and completions have all risen in CDC data. These trends highlight the urgent need for interventions to address this issue on a larger scale than current policymakers have been willing to tackle. If you or someone you know is struggling with mental health or suicidal thoughts, please reach out for help by calling or texting the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline at 988.

    • Teen Mental Health Crisis: A Sharp Increase in Depression, Self-Harm, Anxiety, and SuicideBetween 2007 and 2019, suicide rates increased by 17,000 lives, with girls disproportionately affected. Social media use around 2010 is a strong suspect but the exact cause remains unclear.

      There has been a significant increase in mental health issues among teens, including depression, self-harm, anxiety, and suicide, which cannot be fully explained by increased reporting or decreased stigma. Objective measures like emergency room admissions for self-harm and suicidal thoughts/attempts show similar patterns. Girls are disproportionately affected, and the changes have been more pronounced for them than for boys. The suicide rate has increased by over 17,000 lives lost between 2007 and 2019, equivalent to 9 planes crashing every year. The exact cause is not clear, but the shift around 2010 when social media use became almost mandatory among teens is a strong suspect.

    • Teen mental health issues rose around 2011-2012 due to change in behavior caused by smartphone usageThe increase in teen mental health issues around 2011-2012 can be linked to less sleep and less in-person social interaction due to smartphone usage, but historical context shows that cultural context and access to certain technologies can impact teen mental health.

      The increase in mental health issues among teens around 2011-2012 coincides with a change in how they spent their time outside of school. They started sleeping less and spending less time with friends in person. This shift in behavior can be linked to the rise of smartphone usage during this period. However, it's important to note that there have been periods of high teen suicide rates in the past, such as the late 1980s and early 1990s. During this time, the availability of inexpensive guns led to a significant increase in firearm suicides. The suicide rate then decreased in the mid-1990s due to increased restrictions on guns and a decrease in violent crime. This history suggests that cultural context and access to certain technologies can significantly impact teen mental health.

    • Impact of Smartphones and Social Media on Teen Mental HealthSmartphones and social media displace face-to-face interactions and sleep, leading to mental health issues in teens through disrupted sleep and negative social effects.

      The widespread use of smartphones and social media among teens is a plausible explanation for the recent rise in mental health issues, despite the challenges of conducting definitive research on causation. The impact of smartphones on teen mental health is multi-faceted, with several mechanisms contributing to the trend. One of the primary mechanisms is time displacement, including the displacement of face-to-face interactions with friends and sleep. The use of smartphones before bedtime can disrupt sleep, leading to less sleep and lower quality sleep, which is crucial for mental health. The psychological and physiological effects of smartphones, such as the stimulation of psychologically engaging content and the disruption of the body's natural sleep hormone production, make it a significant contributor to mental health issues in teens. Additionally, the social effects of social media, including the impact on the way teens form and maintain relationships, can also have negative consequences for mental health. Overall, the use of smartphones and social media by teens is a complex issue with various interconnected mechanisms that can contribute to mental health issues.

    • Social Media Use and Mental HealthExcessive social media use, particularly Instagram, can lead to body image issues, depression, and negative comparisons. Adolescent loneliness, depression, and anxiety have increased in 36 countries since 2012. Gaming is less linked to depression and more interactive, offering real-time activities with friends.

      Excessive use of social media, particularly platforms like Instagram, can lead to body image issues, depression, and a spiral of negative comparisons. Facebook's research and numerous studies show that spending time on these platforms, especially for those with a tendency towards social comparison, can result in feelings of inadequacy and depression. Additionally, social media's focus on popularity, cyberbullying, and the availability of harmful content can exacerbate these issues. Gaming, on the other hand, tends to be more interactive and less linked to depression, as players often engage in real-time activities with friends. The international data supports this trend, showing consistent increases in adolescent loneliness, depression, and anxiety in 36 countries since 2012. The gender difference in these negative outcomes may be explained by girls spending more time on social media and its stronger link to depression for them. The way social media puts users outside themselves, constantly seeking validation and judgment, contrasts with the more self-focused nature of gaming.

    • Social Media's Impact on Adolescent Well-Being: Risks and BenefitsSocial media use can have both positive and negative effects on adolescent well-being, with studies reporting mixed results. Potential risks include copycat effects related to suicide, violence, and mental health issues.

      While social media may offer a perceived level of control, it also presents risks, particularly when it comes to the contagion of negative behaviors and emotions. The discussion touched upon the potential for copycat effects related to suicide, violence, and mental health issues. Studies on the impact of social media on adolescent well-being have produced mixed results, with some reporting minimal or no effect, while others suggest a strong link between social media use and depression, especially among girls. The debate around these findings highlights the importance of carefully examining research methodologies and considering the unique demographic factors at play. Ultimately, it's crucial to acknowledge both the potential benefits and risks of social media use and to continue researching this complex issue.

    • Heavy social media use linked to depression, especially in girlsSocial media use can increase depression, particularly for girls. Research shows that social media's negative impact on mental health may be greater than that of television. However, the relationship between screen time and mental health is complex and requires further study.

      There is a significant correlation between heavy social media use and depression, particularly among girls. This pattern is often overlooked in studies that only consider overall screen time, which may include television and computer use. The negative effects of social media on mental health appear to be more pronounced than those of television. However, it's important to note that the causal relationship between screen time and mental health is complex, and further research is needed to understand if people use social media more because they're depressed or if social media use contributes to depression. The increase in teen depression after 2012 is likely due to technology use, rather than the reverse, but at the individual level, it's possible that some people's mental health issues lead them to spend more time on social media. Experimental studies suggest that cutting back on social media use can lead to improved mood and reduced depression.

    • The Role of Social Media in Rising Mental Health Issues Among Young PeopleStudies link social media usage, particularly around 2012, to the observed increase in mental health issues among young people. Alternative explanations, such as economic conditions, wars, climate change, and gun violence, do not fully account for the trend.

      While it's important to consider various factors contributing to the reported increase in mental health issues among young people, the evidence suggests that the rise of social media usage, particularly around 2012, may be a significant causal factor. This is supported by studies like the one conducted on college campuses where the introduction of Facebook was linked to declining mental health among students. However, it's essential to consider alternative explanations, such as economic conditions, wars, climate change, and gun violence. Upon closer examination, data does not support these explanations as the primary causes of the observed trend. For instance, teen depression was lower during World War II, and rates were lowest during wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Concern for the environment peaked in the 1990s, and climate change is less likely to affect younger age groups. Median incomes were at all-time highs during the period of greatest increase in teen depression. However, the correlation between gun violence and teen depression is more complex, as school shooting incidents began to accelerate around the same time as social media usage. Overall, the evidence points to social media usage as a significant factor in the reported increase in mental health issues among young people.

    • Shift towards social media use linked to mental health issues in younger generationsYounger generations, particularly liberals, spending more time on social media and less time with friends may contribute to increased depression and mental health issues.

      The increase in depression and mental health issues among younger generations, particularly liberal teens, cannot be fully explained by political dynamics or school shootings. Instead, it appears to be linked to a shift towards spending more time on social media and less time face-to-face with friends. This trend started around 2012 and may be driven by the fact that liberal teens and their parents are more accepting of social change and technology. The correlation between political ideology and social media use suggests that parenting styles and attitudes towards technology may play a role. The pattern of increasing loneliness and depression among both genders and political ideologies further supports this theory. Overall, the data suggests that the way we use technology and interact with each other in person may have a significant impact on our mental health.

    • Impact of Technology on Longer Lifespans and 'Slow Life Strategy'Technology's influence on longer lifespans results in young adults lacking real-world experience and independence, creating a disconnect between digital and physical worlds, and potentially hindering their development.

      Technology's impact on longer lifespans has led to a "slow life strategy," where children take longer to grow up and become independent. While this can be beneficial, such as fewer teen pregnancies and substance use, it also means young adults lack experience in making decisions and being independent in the real world. Additionally, there's a disconnect between the heavily regulated real world and the lack of supervision in the digital world, which can lead to issues. For instance, while parents may not let their kids walk to the store alone, they may not monitor their online activities as closely. This can result in a generation that is physically safer but less prepared for real-world independence. The author also mentions the observation made by John Hite and Leonor Skenazy with their organization, Let Grow, that the current parenting culture's focus on protecting children from all dangers, both real and imagined, can hinder their development of independence.

    • Teen mental health issues on the rise despite decrease in physical dangersDespite fewer physical dangers, teens face increasing mental health challenges from online isolation and academic pressure

      While there has been a decrease in physical dangers for teens such as car accidents, fist fights, drug use, and teen pregnancy, there has been an increase in mental health issues like depression, suicide, and self-harm. The reason for this paradox might be due to the unregulated time teens spend online, which can lead to feelings of isolation and lack of face-to-face interaction. Another theory suggests that academic pressure, which has actually decreased in recent years, could be a contributing factor to teen anxiety and depression. It's important to note that physical dangers are still significant issues for teens, but the vast majority of the time when teens interact in person, it's good for their mental health. Overall, the decrease in physical dangers might not have led to the overall improvement in teen well-being that was expected, and it's crucial to consider the potential negative effects of spending too much time online and the importance of face-to-face interaction for teens.

    • Pressure to attend college may contribute to depression in low achieving studentsThe pressure to attend a 4-year college and potential consequences of not doing so may increase feelings of despair and insecurity among low achieving students, potentially contributing to higher rates of depression.

      While there may be a correlation between a lack of a stellar academic record and higher rates of depression, particularly for low achieving girls, it's important to consider the context of economic and societal changes that may be contributing to these trends. The pressure to attend a 4-year college and the potential consequences of not doing so may be increasing, leading to feelings of despair and insecurity among those who are not achieving academically. However, it's also important to keep in mind that there are multiple factors that can contribute to depression, and not all young people who are struggling academically have the same experiences or opportunities. Additionally, there may be shifts in attitudes towards the necessity of a college education, and the reality of college admissions may not be as competitive for all students as it seems. It's worth noting that there are also signs of rising anxiety and depression among older generations, and further research is needed to fully understand the complex factors at play.

    • Rise of depression among younger generations linked to cultural shifts and social mediaMillennials and those born in the late 1980s and early 1990s are experiencing higher rates of clinical depression. Factors contributing to this trend include the rise of social media and negative news spreading more widely, but the issue is complex and requires a multifaceted approach.

      The increase in clinical level depression among younger generations, specifically millennials and those born in the late 1980s and early 1990s, is a complex issue with various contributing factors. While it's not entirely clear why this demographic is experiencing this trend, it seems to coincide with cultural shifts around the time of the mid-2000s, including the rise of social media and negative news spreading more widely. Some argue that parents' heightened awareness and responsiveness to their children's feelings might be contributing to the issue, while others suggest that the overall cultural negativity could be a significant factor. One proposed solution is for individuals to implement restrictions on their smartphone use, such as setting limits on screen time or using grayscale settings. However, it's important to note that this issue requires a multifaceted approach, and individual actions alone may not be enough to address the root causes.

    • Regulating Social Media for Kids' SafetyProposed solutions include raising minimum age, requiring age verification, and limiting hours of use for minors to make social media safer for kids without eliminating it entirely.

      While individuals can take steps to limit their and their children's use of social media for better sleep and developmental reasons, more regulation is needed due to the unregulated nature of social media. Some proposed solutions include raising the minimum age for social media use, requiring age verification, and limiting hours of use for minors. Red states and Republican members of Congress have proposed similar bills, and Utah has already implemented some of these regulations. These common-sense solutions aim to make social media safer for kids and teens without eliminating it entirely, as it does have benefits for adults.

    • Bipartisan support for addressing tech's impact on mental healthRegulations on social media use for minors, acknowledging societal issues, and addressing societal myths are potential solutions to mitigate tech's negative impact on mental health.

      There is bipartisan support for addressing the impact of technology on mental health, particularly in the area of holding tech companies accountable for data collection and privacy. The conversation also touched on the pervasive negativity and high levels of pessimism among young adults towards society and government. Some solutions suggested include implementing stricter regulations on social media use for minors and addressing the societal myths that hinder progress. The discussion also highlighted the importance of acknowledging societal issues, such as inequality and intergenerational and racial dynamics, to promote fairness and positive change.

    • Gen Z's Optimism and Pessimism Towards SocietyGen Z shows political engagement and higher voting rates, but also exhibits concerns of negativity and nihilism, linked to social media use and decline in face-to-face socializing, affecting mental health. Solutions required are multifaceted.

      The current generation of young adults, often referred to as Gen Z, is showing signs of both optimism and pessimism regarding societal issues. On the optimistic side, they are more politically engaged and are voting at higher rates than previous generations. However, there is also a concern that this generation may exhibit a high level of negativity and nihilism, which could lead to poor outcomes in various aspects of life. Additionally, the decline in face-to-face socializing and increase in social media use among young adults have been linked to negative mental health outcomes, such as loneliness and depression. While there are some solutions being proposed to address these issues, it is a complex problem that requires a multifaceted approach. In short, it is crucial to find ways to encourage positive engagement and address the root causes of negativity and disconnection among young adults.

    • Insights into culture and politics from Megan Daum and Tim UrbanUnderstanding generational divides and cultural shifts, as well as American politics, is crucial. Megan Daum's 'The Problem with Everything' and Tim Urban's 'What's Our Problem' offer valuable insights, while '9 Ladies' provides a fun and engaging perspective on historical fiction.

      Understanding the cultural shifts and generational divides, as well as the polarization in American politics, can be gained from reading "The Problem with Everything" by Megan Daum and "What's Our Problem" by Tim Urban. These books offer valuable insights into the changes in culture and politics, particularly the split between Gen Xers and later generations, and the structure of American politics. For a fun and engaging read, consider "9 Ladies," a fiction book that combines elements of Pride and Prejudice and Outlander. The author explores what would happen if a 1987-born Elizabeth Bennett ended up in Mr. Darcy's time. Overall, these books provide unique perspectives on various issues and offer valuable insights for those seeking to better understand the world around them.

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    The steady dings of notifications. The 40 tabs that greet you when you open your computer in the morning. The hundreds of unread emails, most of them spam, with subject lines pleading or screaming for you to click. Our attention is under assault these days, and most of us are familiar with the feeling that gives us — fractured, irritated, overwhelmed.

    D. Graham Burnett calls the attention economy an example of “human fracking”: With our attention in shorter and shorter supply, companies are going to even greater lengths to extract this precious resource from us. And he argues that it’s now reached a point that calls for a kind of revolution. “This is creating conditions that are at odds with human flourishing. We know this,” he tells me. “And we need to mount new forms of resistance.”

    Burnett is a professor of the history of science at Princeton University and is working on a book about the laboratory study of attention. He’s also a co-founder of the Strother School of Radical Attention, which is a kind of grass roots, artistic effort to create a curriculum for studying attention.

    In this conversation, we talk about how the 20th-century study of attention laid the groundwork for today’s attention economy, the connection between changing ideas of attention and changing ideas of the self, how we even define attention (this episode is worth listening to for Burnett’s collection of beautiful metaphors alone), whether the concern over our shrinking attention spans is simply a moral panic, what it means to teach attention and more.

    Mentioned:

    Friends of Attention

    The Battle for Attention” by Nathan Heller

    Powerful Forces Are Fracking Our Attention. We Can Fight Back.” by D. Graham Burnett, Alyssa Loh and Peter Schmidt

    Scenes of Attention edited by D. Graham Burnett and Justin E. H. Smith

    Book Recommendations:

    Addiction by Design by Natasha Dow Schüll

    Objectivity by Lorraine Daston and Peter L. Galison

    The Confidence-Man by Herman Melville

    Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.

    You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.

    This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Rollin Hu and Kristin Lin. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, with Mary Marge Locker and Kate Sinclair. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Isaac Jones and Aman Sahota. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The show’s production team also includes Annie Galvin and Elias Isquith. Original music by Isaac Jones and Aman Sahota. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. Special thanks to Sonia Herrero.

    The Ezra Klein Show
    enMay 31, 2024

    ‘Artificial Intelligence?’ No, Collective Intelligence.

    ‘Artificial Intelligence?’ No, Collective Intelligence.

    A.I.-generated art has flooded the internet, and a lot of it is derivative, even boring or offensive. But what could it look like for artists to collaborate with A.I. systems in making art that is actually generative, challenging, transcendent?

    Holly Herndon offered one answer with her 2019 album “PROTO.” Along with Mathew Dryhurst and the programmer Jules LaPlace, she built an A.I. called “Spawn” trained on human voices that adds an uncanny yet oddly personal layer to the music. Beyond her music and visual art, Herndon is trying to solve a problem that many creative people are encountering as A.I. becomes more prominent: How do you encourage experimentation without stealing others’ work to train A.I. models? Along with Dryhurst, Jordan Meyer and Patrick Hoepner, she co-founded Spawning, a company figuring out how to allow artists — and all of us creating content on the internet — to “consent” to our work being used as training data.

    In this conversation, we discuss how Herndon collaborated with a human chorus and her “A.I. baby,” Spawn, on “PROTO”; how A.I. voice imitators grew out of electronic music and other musical genres; why Herndon prefers the term “collective intelligence” to “artificial intelligence”; why an “opt-in” model could help us retain more control of our work as A.I. trawls the internet for data; and much more.

    Mentioned:

    Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt” by Holly Herndon

    xhairymutantx” by Holly Herndon and Mat Dryhurst, for the Whitney Museum of Art

    Fade” by Holly Herndon

    Swim” by Holly Herndon

    Jolene” by Holly Herndon and Holly+

    Movement” by Holly Herndon

    Chorus” by Holly Herndon

    Godmother” by Holly Herndon

    The Precision of Infinity” by Jlin and Philip Glass

    Holly+

    Book Recommendations:

    Intelligence and Spirit by Reza Negarestani

    Children of Time by Adrian Tchaikovsky

    Plurality by E. Glen Weyl, Audrey Tang and ⿻ Community

    Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.

    You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.

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    The Ezra Klein Show
    enMay 24, 2024

    A Conservative Futurist and a Supply-Side Liberal Walk Into a Podcast …

    A Conservative Futurist and a Supply-Side Liberal Walk Into a Podcast …

    “The Jetsons” premiered in 1962. And based on the internal math of the show, George Jetson, the dad, was born in 2022. He’d be a toddler right now. And we are so far away from the world that show imagined. There were a lot of future-trippers in the 1960s, and most of them would be pretty disappointed by how that future turned out.

    So what happened? Why didn’t we build that future?

    The answer, I think, lies in the 1970s. I’ve been spending a lot of time studying that decade in my work, trying to understand why America is so bad at building today. And James Pethokoukis has also spent a lot of time looking at the 1970s, in his work trying to understand why America is less innovative today than it was in the postwar decades. So Pethokoukis and I are asking similar questions, and circling the same time period, but from very different ideological vantages.

    Pethokoukis is a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, and author of the book “The Conservative Futurist: How to Create the Sci-Fi World We Were Promised.” He also writes a newsletter called Faster, Please! “The two screamingly obvious things that we stopped doing is we stopped spending on science, research and development the way we did in the 1960s,” he tells me, “and we began to regulate our economy as if regulation would have no impact on innovation.”

    In this conversation, we debate why the ’70s were such an inflection point; whether this slowdown phenomenon is just something that happens as countries get wealthier; and what the government’s role should be in supporting and regulating emerging technologies like A.I.

    Mentioned:

    U.S. Infrastructure: 1929-2017” by Ray C. Fair

    Book Recommendations

    Why Information Grows by Cesar Hidalgo

    The Expanse series by James S.A. Corey

    The American Dream Is Not Dead by Michael R. Strain

    Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.

    You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.

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    The Ezra Klein Show
    enMay 21, 2024

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