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    UFYB 176: Tarot Cards, Thought Work & Mysticism with Jessica Dore

    enMarch 11, 2021

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    • Unfuck Your Body Image Course LaunchThe new course, Unfuck Your Body Image, explores deeper meanings of body image, providing tools to redefine relationships with bodies and decide their purpose.

      The host, Unfucked Your Brain podcast creator, is launching a new body image course, "Unfuck Your Body Image," which was previously only available to members of her exclusive group, The Clutch. This course goes beyond just appearance and delves into the deeper meaning of our relationship with our bodies, including fears, anxieties, and resentments. The course aims to help individuals decide what their body is for and what their relationship to it should be. It includes powerful thought work tools and has sold out quickly in the past. Interested individuals can sign up now at unfuckyourbrain.com/bodyfreedom or text "body freedom" to +1347 997-1784 for more information.

    • Tarot reading with a therapeutic twistJessica Dorr's unique approach to tarot combines social work, psychology, and cognitive behavioral therapy for transformative readings

      Jessica Dorr, a tarot reader on the podcast, offers a unique approach to tarot reading that goes beyond traditional fortune-telling. Her background in social work and psychology influences her interpretations, focusing on mutuality and collaboration rather than a top-down, authoritative style. This approach resonated with the host during a recent coaching session, where the importance of client collaboration was emphasized. Despite some initial confusion over pronunciation, the conversation revealed Jessica's depth and expertise in her field. Her work weaves together cognitive and behavioral therapies with tarot, making her sessions insightful and transformative experiences.

    • Collaborative approach to tarot readings and therapyEffective readings and sessions involve asking questions, giving space for realizations, and working together for understanding. Clients should ideally work harder than the reader for sustainable outcomes.

      Effective tarot card readings and therapeutic sessions are more about mutuality and collaboration than about giving answers or providing advice. The purpose is to ask the right questions, give people space for realizations, and work together towards understanding. This approach requires less effort from the reader and leads to more sustainable and impactful outcomes. It's essential to remember that clients should ideally work harder than the reader, as they are the ones living their lives. This approach not only fosters a more effective and engaging session but also helps minimize burnout in the helping professions.

    • A tarot reader's role goes beyond quick fixesTarot readers provide a safe space for exploration and understanding, acting as philosophers and mystics, and aim to make resources widely accessible.

      The role of a tarot reader or a helper goes beyond just providing immediate solutions or fixes. It's important to acknowledge that people may come with complex psychological issues and it's not realistic to expect a quick resolution. Instead, being present and providing a safe space for exploration and understanding can be just as valuable. The concept of negative work, which involves making knowledge and resources widely available for free, aligns with this idea. The tarot reader or helper acts as a philosopher and mystic, sharing valuable information and skills that can positively impact people's lives. The ultimate goal is to make these resources accessible to all, rather than keeping them hidden within institutions or limited to certain individuals.

    • Giving freely can lead to greater returnsSharing knowledge freely can lead to more clients, opportunities, and a virtuous cycle of growth. Focus on what resonates with you for unexpected opportunities and fulfilling work.

      Sharing knowledge and giving it away for free can lead to greater returns in the form of more clients, more opportunities, and a virtuous cycle of growth. The speaker, who learned this from her coach Brooke Castillo, emphasizes that this doesn't mean everyone has to run a business or make money, but rather that giving freely can lead to more opportunities for growth and impact. The speaker also shares her personal journey from studying social work to becoming a coach and writer, highlighting how she discovered that her skills and energy were best used in these areas rather than as a therapist. Overall, the message is that giving freely and focusing on what resonates with us can lead to unexpected opportunities and fulfilling work.

    • Exploring Philosophy Through Everyday LifeA public intellectual is not limited to traditional academia, and everyday questions can contain profound philosophical insights. Engaging in open discussions and recognizing the philosophical nature of decisions can lead to personal growth and a deeper understanding of life.

      The role of a public intellectual is not limited to those with traditional academic backgrounds, and the internet provides a more democratized platform for sharing ideas and perspectives. The speaker, who has a law degree, realizes that she has been engaging in philosophical discussions through her coaching sessions and online content, and that these questions are not fundamentally different from those explored in traditional philosophy. She is currently grappling with the decision of which path to take in her relationships, recognizing that she wants to be happy but is uncomfortable with the uncertainty of not making a choice. The speaker's question revolves around how to make decisions when multiple options could lead to happiness, and she plans to explore this topic further through a Tarot reading. In essence, the speaker's journey illustrates the power of sharing ideas openly and the importance of recognizing the philosophical nature of everyday questions and decisions.

    • Exploring Desires with Tarot CardsTarot cards offer a creative and visually engaging way to explore thought patterns and emotions, providing unique insights beyond traditional analytical methods.

      Often, we tell ourselves we don't know what we want because of fears or societal conditioning. However, once we learn to let go of attachment to specific outcomes, our desires may surface. The speaker suggests a more creative approach to decision-making, which can be complementary to thought work. Tarot cards, such as the 5 of wands, ace of pentacles, and queen of swords, can be used to explore thought patterns and emotions in a visually engaging way. The suits in tarot, including wands (energy), swords (thoughts), cups (emotions), and pentacles (behavior), can provide insight into various aspects of our inner world. The speaker associates the pentacles with behavior due to her background in behavioral therapies, which focus on the interaction between thoughts, feelings, and actions. Tarot cards offer a unique and elusive way to explore thought patterns and emotions, providing benefits beyond traditional analytical methods.

    • Understanding Energy's Role in Our Experiences and ResultsExploring energy as a driving force in experiences and results could lead to deeper understanding and growth, as it can be connected to any aspect of the CTFA coaching model (thought, feeling, action, circumstance) and the image of the 5 of wands emphasizes the importance of aligning actions with desired results.

      Key takeaway from our conversation is that energy, which is anything that is not a thought, feeling, or behavior, plays a significant role in our experiences and the results we create in life. While it can be seen as related to emotions or a separate paradigm, considering the wands as being about results rather than just achievements could provide a new perspective. The CTFA coaching model, which is based on cognitive behavioral therapy, breaks down experiences into thought, feeling, action, and circumstance, with the result being the outcome created through these elements. Energy, as a driving force, could be connected to any of these aspects, and further exploration of this concept could lead to deeper understanding and growth. Additionally, the image of the 5 of wands, with individuals each holding a wand and seemingly working against each other, highlights the importance of aligning our actions and understanding of energy with our desired results.

    • A work in progressFocusing on the process rather than the outcome can lead to personal growth and development. Stay present and grounded to create meaningful experiences.

      Focusing on the process rather than the outcome can lead to personal growth and development. The tarot card discussed, featuring people with wands and coordinated outfits, symbolizes this idea of a work in progress. The ace of pentacles in the middle serves as a reminder to stay present and grounded in the current circumstances, making conscious choices to create and experience the next moments of life. This shift from results-focused to process-focused thinking is a valuable insight from coaching and therapy, especially for those who are goal-oriented like the speaker.

    • Mastering Action: Be Present and GroundedTrust in innate abilities and be fully present in each moment for effective action, rather than focusing on future goals.

      The true mastery of action lies in being present and grounded in the present moment, rather than focusing on grand, long-term ambitions. Our bodies have the natural ability to experience emotions and be fully embodied, but it requires practice to overcome the mental resistance and stay present. The Tarot cards, such as the Queen of Swords, can serve as visual reminders of this concept. The Queen of Swords represents the intellect and the ability to make clear decisions, with clouds at the body level and a sword in a resting position, suggesting the balance between emotional awareness and logical decision-making. Ultimately, the key is to trust in our innate abilities and be fully present in each moment, rather than being distracted by future goals.

    • Understanding and managing emotionsAcknowledge emotions, let them pass like clouds, and maintain control for present decision making

      The Queen of Swords represents the idea of behavioral sovereignty, where one can understand and manage emotions without being controlled by them. This sovereign figure, often depicted with clouds in her cape and a stern expression, is not devoid of emotions but rather in control of them. The suggestion here is that processing emotions and allowing them to come and go is a natural part of growth, but to truly be present in the moment and make decisions organically, one must first do the work to understand and manage emotions. The Queen of Swords serves as a reminder that emotions are not something to be suppressed or brandished, but rather acknowledged and allowed to pass like clouds in the sky. In the context of the original question, the cards suggest that instead of making decisions based on a long-term strategy and an action-oriented mindset, one can also choose to be more present and let things develop organically while maintaining control over emotions.

    • Considering the present moment while maintaining long-term visionRevisit goals for clarity, focus on present feelings, and use Tarot for guidance and self-discovery

      Having a long-term vision is important for managing emotional reactions, but once emotional reactivity is under control, it's possible to approach life at a slower pace and focus on the present moment. This process may involve revisiting big picture goals to gain clarity and then focusing on the present experience. Some people may find value in setting aside goals altogether and focusing solely on how they want to feel in the moment. The Tarot card, Pentacle, represents value and can serve as a reminder to consider what truly matters and to be present to the present moment, even if that means shifting away from long-term goals. The Tarot deck offers a rich source of insight and guidance for personal growth and self-discovery.

    • Journey from Psychology to Tarot: Practical Applications of SpiritualityExplore tarot for personal growth, ground spiritual practices in practical applications, and connect with like-minded individuals for deeper exploration

      Jessica Dore, a life coach and tarot reader, shared her journey from a psychology background to embracing tarot as a practical and useful tool for personal growth. She emphasized the importance of grounding spiritual practices in practical applications and expressed gratitude for being taken seriously in her new field. Dore encourages listeners to explore tarot and its connections to myth, psychology, and mythology through her website (jessicadore.com), social media channels (@jessicadore), and potential classes. For those interested in a deeper exploration, she invites listeners to join The Clutch, the podcast community for Unfuck Your Brain, where they can connect with like-minded individuals and receive individual coaching.

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